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Lauderdale show.

59’ cigarette Tirana down.

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That guy has more money that common sense or else that likely wouldn't have happened on its own. I would want to shoot someone.
 

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That guy has more money that common sense or else that likely wouldn't have happened on its own. I would want to shoot someone.

Owner wasn’t even around I’m sure.

What do you do in a case like this....looks like there's at least 1000 dry horsepower there... Fire those 2 up, pull the plugs and hammer down till all the water is out?

Bag it while pumping it out. Float it to trailer or hoist. Pull it out. Pickle motors. De rig and re rig with all new electronics if you’re smart. Salt water soaking the electronics. Even sealed wiring. Yikes.
 

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Between this and that one coming into Haulover with half of the side coming off I'm not sure I'd be too serious about buying a new Cig.
 

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Between this and that one coming into Haulover with half of the side coming off I'm not sure I'd be too serious about buying a new Cig.

The one that delamed hit a submerged item while running offshore.

But yeah, Ruiz isn’t exactly running cigarette well. Sad. Skip had that place at next level shit.
Ruiz seems to be using it as a toy box and status symbol.
 

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The one that delamed hit a submerged item while running offshore.

But yeah, Ruiz isn’t exactly running cigarette well. Sad. Skip had that place at next level shit.
Ruiz seems to be using it as a toy box and status symbol.
I read that it was supposedly a submerged item, but TBH seeing this makes me question that. 😂
 

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But yeah, Ruiz isn’t exactly running cigarette well. Sad. Skip had that place at next level shit.
Ruiz seems to be using it as a toy box and status symbol.
If that's truly the case, then that's just a shame.
 

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If that's truly the case, then that's just a shame.
Yes, it is. It would seem it is that way at least. Things seem to be chaotic over there. lack of vision and direction mixed with unrealistic expectations mixed with seemingly poor management. Not a great combination.
 

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The boat will soon be available on this website.




Last month, Coopers had a 56’ Palm Beach for minimum bid 250k. Water damage. It was super nice. What a shame, it sunk at dock also.

I am guessing the ad for the Cig will say……. 2024 50’ Cigarette. Water Damage. Minimum bid $250,000

The boat is totaled, as far as insurance is concerned. I know I wouldn’t want it. Unless it gets stripped, it will have a lifetime of electrical problems.
 

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Yes, it is. It would seem it is that way at least. Things seem to be chaotic over there. lack of vision and direction mixed with unrealistic expectations mixed with seemingly poor management. Not a great combination.
But the shirts are nice. 🤣
 

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But the shirts are nice. 🤣

They are!!! One of the nicest shirts I’ve ever worn.
The boat will soon be available on this website.




Last month, Coopers had a 56’ Palm Beach for minimum bid 250k. Water damage. It was super nice. What a shame, it sunk at dock also.

I am guessing the ad for the Cig will say……. 2024 50’ Cigarette. Water Damage. Minimum bid $250,000

The boat is totaled, as far as insurance is concerned. I know I wouldn’t want it. Unless it gets stripped, it will have a lifetime of electrical problems.

No way. Factory will be handling it. They’ll pull the motors pickle them and have em running by the weekend. Dry it out, re rig what needs be and it’ll be back in the water in a few weeks. Guaranteed.

Happens all the time.

Not the first time by any means a performance boat went bobbing. Not even the first time a boat has sunk at the dock at lauderdale. Outerlimts lost a canopied 43 at the dock a few years back. Thing was back on the water in a couple weeks.
 
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They need money , ins claim , another tub bites the dust
 

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What do you do in a case like this....looks like there's at least 1000 dry horsepower there... Fire those 2 up, pull the plugs and hammer down till all the water is out?
Here's phootos of when they raised the 51 OL that sank a few years back at the Lauderdale show. Bag it, pump out water, get it on trailer, back to the factory, pickle motors, clean, re-wire, back on water!

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On an ocean boat, wouldn't every single through hull fitting have a ball valve immediately at the hull, and then the hose?
 

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Holes in hull below water line. My guess is a clamp or hose failure.
That’s wild a simple cheap part can create that much carnage.

I mean I get it but how many through hulls can it have? I’ve spent a lot of time on sailboats and there are valves etc for this shit.
 

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how do these happen sitting on a dock...
The rumor on the OL was sabotage. Ture? Who knows. The guesses on the Cig were no plugs. How you get from the ramp to the dock, hang out and then leave it for the night without noticing its dumping water out the bildge is beyond me. We'll probably never know. It's probably like stated above, loose hose clamp or fitting fell off or something? Although on an OB boat you'd think there would be even LESS chance of that happening.
 

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Perhaps a managed leak, power lost at the pedestal causing batteries to die, tripped breaker, no alarm, a hater getting revenge?

EDIT... @Tank sabotage makes the most sense unfortunately.
 

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The rumor on the OL was sabotage. Ture? Who knows. The guesses on the Cig were no plugs. How you get from the ramp to the dock, hang out and then leave it for the night without noticing its dumping water out the bildge is beyond me. We'll probably never know. It's probably like stated above, loose hose clamp or fitting fell off or something? Although on an OB boat you'd think there would be even LESS chance of that happening.
Who the fuck is sabotaging boats at a boat show?!

If that’s true this performance boating world is so wild,,,
 

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There is a lot of speculation on my private boat forums. The general consensus is insurance fraud. Don’t blast me…… I am just passing it on.

They are also beating up on the boat shows’ night security. This should have been reported to somebody? It certainly draws into question what exactly they do on their rounds.

A boat like this should have apps set up that let the owner know that it is taking on water. High water alarms should have gone off.

In today’s environment, many yacht owners are able to monitor multiple functions on their boats, while they are away. Again, this does not ad up.

Whoever refloated the boat, should be able to determine how the water was coming in. The boat will be thoroughly inspected, so I am sure they will be able to determine what exactly happened. If I were guessing,………. if the boat ended up with no power, such as dead batteries, that would explain a lot of why nobody saw a running bilge pump or no notifications were made. I’d hate to think that the bilge pumps were not automatic or were off, when batteries were off.

just for reference, even when my batteries are off in my boat, the auto bilge pumps still activate. This is because they are direct wired to batteries, circumventing the Perko switch.
 

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There is a lot of speculation on my private boat forums. The general consensus is insurance fraud. Don’t blast me…… I am just passing it on.

They are also beating up on the boat shows’ night security. This should have been reported to somebody? It certainly draws into question what exactly they do on their rounds.

A boat like this should have apps set up that let the owner know that it is taking on water. High water alarms should have gone off.

In today’s environment, many yacht owners are able to monitor multiple functions on their boats, while they are away. Again, this does not ad up.

Whoever refloated the boat, should be able to determine how the water was coming in. The boat will be thoroughly inspected, so I am sure they will be able to determine what exactly happened. If I were guessing,………. if the boat ended up with no power, such as dead batteries, that would explain a lot of why nobody saw a running bilge pump or no notifications were made. I’d hate to think that the bilge pumps were not automatic or were off, when batteries were off.

just for reference, even when my batteries are off in my boat, the auto bilge pumps still activate. This is because they are direct wired to batteries, circumventing the Perko switch.
This
When the SIL yacht was taking on water he got called by Harbor patrol MDR.
You’d think someone failed.
 

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I don't understand the "insurance" thing, when the boat is valued in the $3.8M +- range. Even a complete de-rig, and re-rig wouldn't put the cost of repair into a position of total loss I wouldn't think.
 

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There is a lot of speculation on my private boat forums. The general consensus is insurance fraud. Don’t blast me…… I am just passing it on.

They are also beating up on the boat shows’ night security. This should have been reported to somebody? It certainly draws into question what exactly they do on their rounds.

A boat like this should have apps set up that let the owner know that it is taking on water. High water alarms should have gone off.

In today’s environment, many yacht owners are able to monitor multiple functions on their boats, while they are away. Again, this does not ad up.

Whoever refloated the boat, should be able to determine how the water was coming in. The boat will be thoroughly inspected, so I am sure they will be able to determine what exactly happened. If I were guessing,………. if the boat ended up with no power, such as dead batteries, that would explain a lot of why nobody saw a running bilge pump or no notifications were made. I’d hate to think that the bilge pumps were not automatic or were off, when batteries were off.

just for reference, even when my batteries are off in my boat, the auto bilge pumps still activate. This is because they are direct wired to batteries, circumventing the Perko switch.
Yeah, I don't understand how this happens in this day and age either, unless like you said, there was a complete drain of power somehow. You got handlers moving and placing these boats into position and possibly low level handlers that don't know all the ins and outs of a particular boat.

I'm skeptical about the insurance fraud claim. Dude owns 5 cigarettes. Why do this to one? And seriously, it'll be back on the water in a matter of weeks. It's already back at cig being dealt with.
 
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