The Outboard Church

[War Canoe]

Mendocino coast today ….perfect.

 

[War Canoe]

 

[War Canoe]

 

[HST4ME]

 

[HydroSkreamin]

@lake p.a.l. called me a few weeks ago and asked if we could take the StressEliminator out SuperBowl weekend.

He knows the lakes around my new home and I do not, so we went out last Saturday to Canyon Lake, AZ.

The scenery is superb. We didn’t set any speed records but I had a blast.

Looking forward to running in the other nearby lakes this year.

 

[ChrisV]

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@lake p.a.l. called me a few weeks ago and asked if we could take the StressEliminator out SuperBowl weekend.

He knows the lakes around my new home and I do not, so we went out last Saturday to Canyon Lake, AZ.

The scenery is superb. We didn’t set any speed records but I had a blast.

Looking forward to running in the other nearby lakes this year.

You should definitely come to the lower river outboard run in Blythe.

 

[HST4ME]

 

[War Canoe]

Trick 23’ Wide body…$133k with 300R single….
About 555 pounds heavier than the Argo.

 

[War Canoe]

Other comparison notes in the Argo vs Trick….
Argo is a true tunnel …Trick has a center pod. Never owned a true tunnel, only center pod boats. Assuming center pod boat would handle better at lower speeds? Less porpoise?
Seems like the Argo is going to be quite a bit faster with the full tunnel and big weight savings.
Trick may be better ride due to heavier hull?
Argo can be ordered in Carbon fiber …650 pounds unrigged. $9k add on for the lighter hull.
Trick will be finished first. Argo molds are hopefully producing boats by September.
22’ Liberator from Randy is a play as well. It will need the 450R to compete with the Argo. I could call Randy tomorrow….Bully just ordered his 22’ Liberator with a 300R …also a nice set up around 90k price. So many decisions!!!

 

[HST4ME]

I'll take what the lineage of the Argo has to offer.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Other comparison notes in the Argo vs Trick….
Argo is a true tunnel …Trick has a center pod. Never owned a true tunnel, only center pod boats. Assuming center pod boat would handle better at lower speeds? Less porpoise?
Seems like the Argo is going to be quite a bit faster with the full tunnel and big weight savings.
Trick may be better ride due to heavier hull?
Argo can be ordered in Carbon fiber …650 pounds unrigged. $9k add on for the lighter hull.
Trick will be finished first. Argo molds are hopefully producing boats by September.
22’ Liberator from Randy is a play as well. It will need the 450R to compete with the Argo. I could call Randy tomorrow….Bully just ordered his 22’ Liberator with a 300R …also a nice set up around 90k price. So many decisions!!!


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Todd @ Wicked Powerboats is making a BADASS 24' that can be setup with any power you want, including twins. I'd never want twins on a boat that size.

 

[stoker2001]

22’ Liberator from Randy is a play as well. It will need the 450R to compete with the Argo. I could call Randy tomorrow….Bully just ordered his 22’ Liberator with a 300R …also a nice set up around 90k price. So many decisions!!!

Those propshafts on bottom of river tho...

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[HST4ME]

Those propshafts on bottom of river tho...

Shhh we're not supposed to talk about that.

 

[HST4ME]

 

[stoker2001]

pretty stout for shakedown!any specs on motor/prop or did i miss that?similiar bottom to allison?

 

[stoker2001]

Argo is a true tunnel …Trick has a center pod. Never owned a true tunnel, only center pod boats. Assuming center pod boat would handle better at lower speeds? Less porpoise?
Seems like the Argo is going to be quite a bit faster with the full tunnel and big weight savings.

Full true tunnel with suspect propshafts on the V8s....J/S

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[lake p.a.l.]

Full true tunnel with suspect propshafts on the V8s....J/S

Quite a few peeps WAY smarter than me say to run a jack plate, bury everything for launch, then work it up slowly. The big heavy motors & lowers live better that way supposedly

 

[HST4ME]

pretty stout for shakedown!any specs on motor/prop or did i miss that?similiar bottom to allison?

It's quite a bit different than an Allison.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Cruiser today, mid 70s & beautiful. KingofBeers & a few others getting their boats out too. Meet at Lakehouse13 for lunch on the water

 

[jperog]

That Trick is flat ass sexy. The Argo will run circles around a 22' Liberator in real world water conditions. We have both in our Florida group that run together consistently. The Argo with a 300R works VERY well. I say wait and see the Tricks performance results (the true tunnel version with a pair of 300Rs would have to be a river weapon).

Joe

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Great day

 

[stoker2001]

That Trick is flat ass sexy. The Argo will run circles around a 22' Liberator in real world water conditions. We have both in our Florida group that run together consistently. The Argo with a 300R works VERY well. I say wait and see the Tricks performance results (the true tunnel version with a pair of 300Rs would have to be a river weapon).

Joe

I know you Love the 4strokes and i get why..SO, you are thinking twin 300Rs on the Trick isnt a CG mistake with wieght?We do appreciate your Expertise Joe

 

[stoker2001]

Another GREAT rip yesterday on our heavenly thousand mile delta with STV Bill,Rapidcraft Howard, rookie Nick Hom in STV making some 111mph passes.Jacob Avery in his Mirage river racer and Eric/James in the vintage Elim Vbottom holding up the rear.72* day without any breeze!Winter runs are BEST,not sure i want spring to come with along with the masses

 

[HST4ME]

 

[21 Trick]

Nice Weather In Parker Az last Weekend!! Tested the 34 Hydromotive Round ear Cleaver to much Transom lift!! Ran 115 mph at 6100 rpm then lifts to much but still pulling more speed.
30 Promax runs 106 with 4 people great all around Hole shot, Turning and acceleration. Typically run 32 Promax 116 mph 2 people full tanks.

 

[21 Trick]

Todd @ Wicked Powerboats is making a BADASS 24' that can be setup with any power you want, including twins. I'd never want twins on a boat that size.

 

[HST4ME]

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[stoker2001]

would love to join in one of these years!just curious if they would ever consider top end/radar shootout?probably not with liability these days is there some club or association that organizes this?permits?

 

[HST4ME]

It's all informal. There used to be an organized event but the blow overs kind of ruined all that. I'll be there with 108.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Sat 75°
Sun 80°
Gonna get the Shadow out of hibernation

 

[21 Trick]

NWSRA.NET Ski Race Parker Season Opener March 9th. Back at the Bluewater Casino if anyone is Interested.

Turn In front of my place 3 miles up River stop by.

 

[clarence]

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What a pair!

How do they compare?

 

[ScottyP363]

NWSRA.NET Ski Race Parker Season Opener March 9th. Back at the Bluewater Casino if anyone is Interested.

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Need an observer or driver? haha

 

[ScottyP363]

What a pair!

How do they compare?

Night and day I'm sure lol

 

[Ragged Edge]

Need an observer or driver? haha

Observers are typically in high demand at the ski races. If you have a current CPR/First Aid certification and show up you might get in a boat.

 

[ScottyP363]

Observers are typically in high demand at the ski races. If you have a current CPR/First Aid certification and show up you might get in a boat.

Good to know. It sounds like a great time, thank you!

 

[War Canoe]

Original Argo inline seating…. All business. This is more my style. Just needs to be a wide body!
Photo compliments of Joe.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Original Argo inline seating…. All business. This is more my style. Just needs to be a wide body!
Photo compliments of Joe.

Photo??
Knowing how you like to charge, I'd guess you would absolutely LOVE a true tunnel. These "bigger" boats with a single won't accelerate as quickly as Kev, Bill, etc as you well know. I'm very interested to see what you end up getting.

 

[21 Trick]

What a pair!

How do they compare?

Thanks yes completely different to Drive pad bottom verse True cat. I feel they are both best in Class and with seat time do everything well!!

 

[21 Trick]

Good to know. It sounds like a great time, thank you!

Call or text anytime 714-747-202seven. Craig G.

 

[jperog]

I know you Love the 4strokes and i get why..SO, you are thinking twin 300Rs on the Trick isnt a CG mistake with wieght?We do appreciate your Expertise Joe

I'm not sure what the rigged weight will be with a complete interior set up for 4 or 5 people, nice stereo etc. It usually takes something fairly light to run well with a single-Argos are light and no frills for sure. If you are running rivers, the C.G. can be easily manipulated to work and a boat of that size should have some really hard acceleration with twins. 22' Talons, DCBs, Eliminators and 24 Skaters with twins are often a good example of what I am referring to. The trick has a wide enough tunnel that it should offer good stability Vs some of the aforementioned hulls.

Joe

 

[ScottyP363]

Call or text anytime 714-747-202seven. Craig G.

I texted this number and the person on the other end said it wasn't you lol

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Prepped & ready, just waiting on hot wife. Pickup @BlowMe & roll south to St John's river for a week

 

[HST4ME]

I'll be that way tomorrow 6 ish

 

[HST4ME]

And fuck ohio

 

[HST4ME]

108 is ready to start covering some miles down here.

 

[HST4ME]

Not a terrible day, wind was obnoxious but I found a nice little river to get away from it. Forgot how big the St John's is.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

 

[lake p.a.l.]

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Staying with great friends @seanroberts & his incredible family. Cleaned up the Shadow & took them to supper at Whiteys Fish Camp