The 21' and under 70+ mph Boat pic thread

[Sharp Shooter]

What's with the mufflers?
Flowmasters?

Dan'l

A time when Long Beach required boats to have mufflers when racing at the Stadium.

 

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Thanks,
Dan'l

 

[Sharp Shooter]

 

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[Clank123]

How can i truly find out ?? Would love to find out i have a gem …thanks

From the pictures sure looks like a drop chine gull wing to me.
This bottom design was right before Sanger added the center pad like the Hondo.
Our old friend Grich told me the gull wing Sanger Hobbit that he drove was about the most ill handling circle boat he’d ever been in . Crashed it and broke his back if I remember right.
I have a picture somewhere, I know Jerry has it.
Be fun to work with your boat and get it handling well.

 

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More pictures of this Rayson

 

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This one?

 

[SPECTRABRENT]

Yep!

 

[BigRedBryan]

One of the best drivers of all time... and a great friend...

 

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[Sharp Shooter]

 

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[Backlash]

Rushin Roulette is a badass piece!!

 

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[Sharp Shooter]

 

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[Willie B]

 

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Is that the Darth Vader or Star Wars boat. Steve Earl?

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Is that the Darth Vader or Star Wars boat. Steve Earl?

Boat is called Outcast and yeah it was owned by Steve Earl.

 

[coolchange]

Boat is called OutKast and yeah it was owned by Steve Earl.

Oh yeah. I thought that seat looked familiar! Lol Is that the deck with the space(?) mural?
Do you know who owns it now and where his other boats went

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Oh yeah. I thought that seat looked familiar! Lol Is that the deck with the space(?) mural?
Do you know who owns it now and where his other boats went

I posted the deck above with the star wars air brushing.

I don’t know who are the current owners or locations, but I’m sure Billy B knows.

 

[coolchange]

I posted the deck above with the star wars air brushing.

I don’t know who are the current owners or locations, but I’m sure Billy B knows.

DOH! I blew right by it. Always liked that boat. Thanks. RIP Steve, you were a cool dude.

 

[Clank123]

From the pictures sure looks like a drop chine gull wing to me.
This bottom design was right before Sanger added the center pad like the Hondo.
Our old friend Grich told me the gull wing Sanger Hobbit that he drove was about the most ill handling circle boat he’d ever been in . Crashed it and broke his back if I remember right.
I have a picture somewhere, I know Jerry has it.
Be fun to work with your boat and get it handling well.

Here’s Grich in the Drop Chine Hobbit…Bob Long went on to do pretty well with the next Hobbit.
Not sure what the bottom was but probably real close to Liberty that Gordy Jennings Sr. drove.
To see him and Julian run were a thing of beauty.

 

[warpt71]

From the pictures sure looks like a drop chine gull wing to me.
This bottom design was right before Sanger added the center pad like the Hondo.
Our old friend Grich told me the gull wing Sanger Hobbit that he drove was about the most ill handling circle boat he’d ever been in . Crashed it and broke his back if I remember right.
I have a picture somewhere, I know Jerry has it.
Be fun to work with your boat and get it handling well.

If you really want to play with one my dad has one here in Havasu that I've tried to get him to take out more. It's a straight deck though, not a bubble, but definitely a gullwing bottom. It's been a good family boat for us for almost 40 years!

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Here’s Grich in the Drop Chine Hobbit…Bob Long went on to do pretty well with the next Hobbit.
Not sure what the bottom was but probably real close to Liberty that Gordy Jennings Sr. drove.
To see him and Julian run were a thing of beauty.
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I don't know for sure, but I've always assumed Liberty was a gull bottom. In this ad they called it a 19" which I don't believe. It doesn't look like a 19 to me. Gordy said he doesn't know, but he said the boat was in Orange County and he knew where it was 20+ years ago. Maybe it will resurface someday.

It doesn't look 19 here and I don't think there was more than one.

It's too bad this pic doesn't show a little lower on the hull.

In this photo the bottom looks like it has a slight V like the family ski.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

DOH! I blew right by it. Always liked that boat. Thanks. RIP Steve, you were a cool dude.

Steve Earl '72ish.

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

I don't know for sure, but I've always assumed Liberty was a gull bottom. In this ad they called it a 19" which I don't believe. It doesn't look like a 19 to me. Gordy said he doesn't know, but he said the boat was in Orange County and he knew where it was 20+ years ago. Maybe it will resurface someday.

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It doesn't look 19 here and I don't think there was more than one.

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It's too bad this pic doesn't show a little lower on the hull.

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In this photo the bottom looks like it has a slight V like the family ski.

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I don't know for sure, but I've always assumed Liberty was a gull bottom. In this ad they called it a 19" which I don't believe. It doesn't look like a 19 to me. Gordy said he doesn't know, but he said the boat was in Orange County and he knew where it was 20+ years ago. Maybe it will resurface someday.

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It doesn't look 19 here and I don't think there was more than one.

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It's too bad this pic doesn't show a little lower on the hull.

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In this photo the bottom looks like it has a slight V like the family ski.

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I know where liberty is at, just saw it last Thursday. Motor was pulled but boat looks good otherwise

 

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[Clank123]

I know where liberty is at, just saw it last Thursday. Motor was pulled but boat looks good otherwise

Wow!
That’s fantastic!
That boat for sure is one of the “Holy Grail” boats of boat racing history.
If you weren’t around when Liberty and Cold Fire battled every race, it’s just hard to describe the battles they had.
Gordy Sr. was one talented driver for sure.
Two questions SOCALCRICKETT…
Does the current owner have any desire to restore/display the boat?
I am part of the Team putting together the Long Beach Marine Stadium wing of the Lions Dragstrip Mueseum and Liberty would be an awesome addition to the BFF Panic Mouse and BFH Shockwave(I hope to have it back from Billy soon so I can rig it) that will be displayed there along with some other “guest” boats.
I’d do the labor to restore it for free just to get it out for people to see.

If there is no interest in doing that, I’d buy ya lunch if you could arrange to meet there and let me get the measurements off of it.
I keep a form on every boat I build and many that I haven’t(including a few done in the dark of night), so I can replicate set ups as needed from boat to boat. It would take about a half hour to complete.
There has never been a better working Sanger circle boat and the knowledge gained from documenting that legendary boat could help Sanger owners a bunch to get their boats working better.
Let me know.
Appreciate it.

 

[warpt71]

I know where liberty is at, just saw it last Thursday. Motor was pulled but boat looks good otherwise

The GT deck Hondo or the Sanger in question here?

 

[Sharp Shooter]

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That's my trailer.

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[Sharp Shooter]

Since we're talking about Liberty, it's only fitting to add some Freedom and Stars and Stripes to the thread. SOCALCRICKET, throw some Liberty pics up. We all want to see it!

 

[Terminal Velocity]

I posted the deck above with the star wars air brushing.

I don’t know who are the current owners or locations, but I’m sure Billy B knows.

I believe Outcast became Steve's Center Steer capsule boat. Which John Grijalva now owns and campains in PS/GPS100 if they get enough capsules. Oops, I was wrong about Outcast. Will update if i hear more.

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

So I will stop by the shop liberty is at later. I'll check to see if the owner is ok with the information being put out there, ill send a pm to clank here in a minute

 

[JusTrouble]

That's my trailer.

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That reminded me of this....

 

[Sharp Shooter]

I believe Outkast became Steve's Center Steer capsule boat. Which John Grijalva now owns and campains in PS/GPS100 if they get enough capsules.

You sure about that?

 

[Terminal Velocity]

You sure about that?

No, but I think that's what my Old mind remembers. I have a text in to verify....AAANNND my Old mind is wrong.

That boat(Earls capsule) was a SS that Dennis Rankin drove. Will see if i receive any more info.

 

[Terminal Velocity]

@Sharp Shooter Update, Source in Idaho says the family (Steve's brother) still has Outcast. Not sure if it's for sale.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

@Sharp Shooter Update, Source in Idaho says the family (Steve's brother) still has Outcast. Not sure if it's for sale.

Thanks for the updates Jim!

 

[DC-88]

I know where liberty is at, just saw it last Thursday. Motor was pulled but boat looks good otherwise

Speaking of Liberty , I ran into Ron Woodruff’s son the other day and he told me his dad had passed away - rip

 

[timstoy]

That's my trailer.

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That's my trailer.

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Fun story about your trailer. Jerry Hanger installed three axles on the dolly trailer to match the three axles on the enclosed trailer and because no one else had done it before. Larry Dahlhoff and I went to Jerry’s shop and the first thing Larry said to Jerry was do you think the trailer will float with six tires. The look on Jerry’s face was priceless as he didn’t think of that! Turns out the trailer did not float but one person could lift back of the trailer to the surface in the water so it was close! I miss those days, good times!

 

[timstoy]

A time when Long Beach required boats to have mufflers when racing at the Stadium.

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Someone got a good picture of my rear putting Jerry Hanger’s K17 on the trailer! Thank you Jerry and others who posted these photos on this site. Brings back great memories and fun time’s in my fifty plus years of boat racing. I have been fortunate to make friends with many drivers and race crews over the years. It also makes me sad to see many great drivers and crew members that have passed over the years. Godspeed.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Someone got a good picture of my rear putting Jerry Hanger’s K17 on the trailer! Thank you Jerry and others who posted these photos on this site. Brings back great memories and fun time’s in my fifty plus years of boat racing. I have been fortunate to make friends with many drivers and race crews over the years. It also makes me sad to see many great drivers and crew members that have passed over the years. Godspeed.

I shot that photo but I do have photo archives from Grich, Gordy, The Arizona Navy and few from Gottaminute. The Ewald pics I had a hand in restoring so I have a fair amount of those too.

The old pics are fun to look at for those of us who love nostalgia.

I’m not sure I know who you are. Have we met?

 

[timstoy]

I shot that photo but I do have photo archives from Grich, Gordy, The Arizona Navy and few from Gottaminute. The Ewald pics I had a hand in restoring so I have a fair amount of those too.

The old pics are fun to look at for those of us who love nostalgia.

I’m not sure I know who you are. Have we met?

Yes we have met. I’m Tim Garland, Larry Dahlhoffs brother in law and we were partners in Motor Magic Racing Engines. I worked on all of Larry’s boats PC98, K18, K17 and GN369. Larry moved to Big River and semi retired but still did machine work and build motors. After Larry passed our nephew Heath Hebert bought the Motor Magic assets and opened Advanced Racing Engines and began racing GN369. My son Gary raced GN 27 for several years and then Heaths daughter Kaylee started racing GN18. We built hundreds of boat motors and machine work for many racers and customers over the years.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Yes we have met. I’m Tim Garland, Larry Dahlhoffs brother in law and we were partners in Motor Magic Racing Engines. I worked on all of Larry’s boats PC98, K18, K17 and GN369. Larry moved to Big River and semi retired but still did machine work and build motors. After Larry passed our nephew Heath Hebert bought the Motor Magic assets and opened Advanced Racing Engines and began racing GN369. My son Gary raced GN 27 for several years and then Heaths daughter Kaylee started racing GN18. We built hundreds of boat motors and machine work for many racers and customers over the years.

Oh good grief! How did I not piece that together? Sorry Tim! All I can say is I'm an idiot!

 

[Sharp Shooter]

 

[Sharp Shooter]