Speed UTV take 3

[NIKAL]

I suspect we will see a few more secondary’s cracked or exploded. I’m betting a bad batch or corners were cut by their clutch supply manufacturer. Not sure of the QC process they have? This happened to Polaris with the XP Pro. They had primary’s exploding. At first Polaris & Team Ind. denied there was an issue, covered lots of cars under warranty, until one exploded and shrapnel almost injured a rear passenger. At that point Polaris knew they were F’ed! They put a recall out before the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission could force them to do a recall.

I suspect Speed UTV will be forced to issue a formal recall if a few more cracked or exploded CVT’s start showing up.

 

[Bpracing1127]

But this is the best car ever and through extensive testing won’t need a recall like Polaris did!!!!

Company is laughable

 

[stonehenge]

Why doesn't speed use the speed key on its race vehicles to smoke all the competition and secure a spot on the podium? A win or at least a spot somewhere on the podium wouldn't hurt the sales.

 

[Deckin Around]

But this is the best car ever and through extensive testing won’t need a recall like Polaris did!!!!

Be nice they are still learning
They didn’t do well at Vegas to Reno. Every race report is the same:
“Not the finish we wanted, but we learned a lot to improve the car for the customers and we’ll be ready next time.”
Then days later, Robby will explain that the speed car was the fastest for 1.3 miles in one specific section so they won, but didn’t win, but could have, but will next time, and the tow ropes and engine smoke seen were imaginary.

Ummmm, imo that’s called testing. In a race car that’s fine, in a production car you should have learned everything before it went public.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Be nice they are still learning
They didn’t do well at Vegas to Reno. Every race report is the same:
“Not the finish we wanted, but we learned a lot to improve the car for the customers and we’ll be ready next time.”
Then days later, Robby will explain that the speed car was the fastest for 1.3 miles in one specific section so they won, but didn’t win, but could have, but will next time, and the tow ropes and engine smoke seen were imaginary.

Ummmm, imo that’s called testing. In a race car that’s fine, in a production car you should have learned everything before it went public.

On another forum a couple speed huggers already found the section the speed was fastest! Its like a cult just admit the car is far from production already and let the aftermarket help you out.

And for Nikal yes Polaris and can am have/had issues too we know you told us all the way back to the beginning of both companies how similar they are.

I don’t want speed to give up I want them to succeed so eventually I can possibly buy one if they get the car sorted and it ends up being as good as they promised. But still wouldn’t until a good dealer support network is set up.

 

[jesco]

Any word if SPEED is going to be at the Sand Show this year? Always get a good laugh at the guys standing around eye fucking the cars there who are so stoked to get that free "Robby Gordon beer", but still do not have a car to go have fun with... "Its gonna be SOOOO worth the wait BRO....!" hahaha. It sucks this turned into such a shit show, that car has some really cool shit and when/IF they can get it all figured out will be a great DESERT car. I think the guys that bought it for the dunes made a mistake, those guys seem to be having all the major issues quicker than desert guys.

 

[RiverDave]

I find it amusing that all the guys yappin in here have never even been in one.. lol

RD

 

[Singleton]

I find it amusing that all the guys yappin in here have never even been in one.. lol

RD

Cant get a ride. Everyone I go to the desert with, that purchased one, is still pending delivery

 

[DMF]

I find it amusing that all the guys yappin in here have never even been in one.. lol

RD

Everyone I know that has one is selling them. I have one on order, but doubtful that I will keep it or even take delivery of it.

 

[rivermobster]

Cant get a ride. Everyone I go to the desert with, that purchased one, is still pending delivery

X2

Not to mention...

There just aren't that many out there!

 

[Fishd00d]

I know three people personally who have one, two of them used the car once and twice and are for sale, the other person is Brandon Hollander whos making all the upgrade parts to "fix" some of the issues on them so hes making $$$ off making parts for them as well.

 

[stonehenge]

On another forum a couple speed huggers already found the section the speed was fastest! Its like a cult just admit the car is far from production already and let the aftermarket help you out.

And for Nikal yes Polaris and can am have/had issues too we know you told us all the way back to the beginning of both companies how similar they are.

I don’t want speed to give up I want them to succeed so eventually I can possibly buy one if they get the car sorted and it ends up being as good as they promised. But still wouldn’t until a good dealer support network is set up.

"speed huggers" may I use that, please?

 

[Boatymcboatface]

"speed huggers" may I use that, please?

Hater or Hugger just pick a side!

 

[NIKAL]

I know three people personally who have one, two of them used the car once and twice and are for sale, the other person is Brandon Hollander whos making all the upgrade parts to "fix" some of the issues on them so hes making $$$ off making parts for them as well.

Fish did you ever ride or drive one of your friends cars? And what were their thoughts in general?

 

[Fishd00d]

Fish did you ever ride or drive one of your friends cars? And what were their thoughts in general?

Not yet but PCI just got one and ill be taking it out in the dirt for some product shoots soon so I will report back after that!

 

[RiverDave]

Everyone I know that has one is selling them. I have one on order, but doubtful that I will keep it or even take delivery of it.

Come drive mine.. you will change your mind quick..

 

[RiverDave]

I know three people personally who have one, two of them used the car once and twice and are for sale, the other person is Brandon Hollander whos making all the upgrade parts to "fix" some of the issues on them so hes making $$$ off making parts for them as well.

I plan on buying all his products! lol

That said for all the shit I had to put into my can am I am still way ahead on the speed and it’s twice or more the car an x3 is..

 

[daytona man]

I plan on buying all his products! lol

That said for all the shit I had to put into my can am I am still way ahead on the speed and it’s twice or more the car an x3 is..

Dave your are kind funny . All you do is talk about how great the Speed car is and keep comparing it to your Can Am. You have 600 miles on the Speed car and have already had to have a new motor , turbo and other parts I can't think of them . Can't drive over 60 miles and hour with the windshield on !

So how can you say that it is so much better then the Can Am that you never replaced anything except aftermarket parts you wanted on it . Did you ever have a problem going over 60 with the windshield on it ?

Some day if Speed lasts long enough to resolve all there problem's they may be the car you think they are !

 

[NIKAL]

Dave your are kind funny . All you do is talk about how great the Speed car is and keep comparing it to your Can Am. You have 600 miles on the Speed car and have already had to have a new motor , turbo and other parts I can't think of them . Can't drive over 60 miles and hour with the windshield on !

So how can you say that it is so much better then the Can Am that you never replaced anything except aftermarket parts you wanted on it . Did you ever have a problem going over 60 with the windshield on it ?

Some day if Speed lasts long enough to resolve all there problem's they may be the car you think they are !

Playing devils advocate. Put a windshield on the Mav R and try going 60 miles in it. Your not! And you will void the warranty.

Because allot of the Mav R cooler ducting is between the seats. You must buy and put on a roof ducting kit to relocate the intake for the oil cooler, trans coolers & turbo inner coolers. Speaking to a Can Am dealer guy, he said even if running a half windshield they have seen the temps increase and the car pulls power back or could go into a limp mode. So if you want to run any type of windscreen on a Mav R look at getting a roof ducting kit.


Per BRP;

• Feeds fresh air to the engine compartment.
• Sleek design for a sleek racing look.
• Increases cold air to the intake to prevent power lost.
• Required when using a full windshield.
• Requires a Sport Roof or Can-Am JL Audio Roof - Level 4.
• Not compatible with the Audio Roof Flip Kit

Was $579, now $499

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Playing devils advocate. Put a windshield on the Mav R and try going 60 miles in it. Your not! And you will void the warranty.

Because allot of the Mav R cooler ducting is between the seats. You must buy and put on a roof ducting kit to relocate the intake for the oil cooler, trans coolers & turbo inner coolers. Speaking to a Can Am dealer guy, he said even if running a half windshield they have seen the temps increase and the car pulls power back or could go into a limp mode. So if you want to run any type of windscreen on a Mav R look at getting a roof ducting kit.


Per BRP;

• Feeds fresh air to the engine compartment.
• Sleek design for a sleek racing look.
• Increases cold air to the intake to prevent power lost.
• Required when using a full windshield.
• Requires a Sport Roof or Can-Am JL Audio Roof - Level 4.
• Not compatible with the Audio Roof Flip Kit

Was $579, now $499

How much is the speed kit? Does it include proper ducting to keep temps down?

 

[sandshark1]

Playing devils advocate. Put a windshield on the Mav R and try going 60 miles in it. Your not! And you will void the warranty.

Because allot of the Mav R cooler ducting is between the seats. You must buy and put on a roof ducting kit to relocate the intake for the oil cooler, trans coolers & turbo inner coolers. Speaking to a Can Am dealer guy, he said even if running a half windshield they have seen the temps increase and the car pulls power back or could go into a limp mode. So if you want to run any type of windscreen on a Mav R look at getting a roof ducting kit.


Per BRP;

• Feeds fresh air to the engine compartment.
• Sleek design for a sleek racing look.
• Increases cold air to the intake to prevent power lost.
• Required when using a full windshield.
• Requires a Sport Roof or Can-Am JL Audio Roof - Level 4.
• Not compatible with the Audio Roof Flip Kit

Was $579, now $499

Can Am dealer is not going to sell you the windshield without the roof that is needed. At least Can Am figured that out and have a solution that allows you to run the windshield.

Be thankful Hollander is making parts for the Speed car. Without him there would be no options for better quality parts.

Have any of the Speed guys with windshields looked into doing ducting like in the 2025 Pro R that feed air into the cab through the vents in the dash?

 

[NIKAL]

How much is the speed kit? Does it include proper ducting to keep temps down?

Unfortunately Speed does not offer a better ducting kit, and probably won’t. IMO they should have never offered a windshield. Or not offered it until they had a plan & design like Can Am does. BTW you cant run a windshield in the Yamaha YXZ either as its radiator is in the back too.

 

[NIKAL]

Can Am dealer is not going to sell you the windshield without the roof that is needed. At least Can Am figured that out and have a solution that allows you to run the windshield.

Be thankful Hollander is making parts for the Speed car. Without him there would be no options for better quality parts.

Have any of the Speed guys with windshields looked into doing ducting like in the 2025 Pro R that feed air into the cab through the vents in the dash?

Dealer probably won’t, but any accessories company or the aftermarket will. Hopefully they tell you that you need a ducting kit.

As far as ducting in the floor area like the new Pro R. That’s not going to be enough for the Speed. All the Polaris ducting is doing is helping reducing nevitive pressure and to help keep the radiator heat from swirling in the cab heating up the passengers. Years ago when Robby fist started sharing the design I talked to him and asked if there was a way to capture air from behind the grill, duct it down the center tunnel back to the radiator. He liked the idea and said they would see if there was away to do it with bulkhead there, but did not think it would need it. But this was before Windshield Gate, and that’s when a closed cab was also discussed and the radiator was getting moved forward anyways.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

But this is the best car ever and through extensive testing won’t need a recall like Polaris did!!!!

Company is laughable

I haven't read this thread in a while but that made me laugh.... I wonder if the former inmate expert in all things speed and also the expert in RG's bowel movements its still surgically attached to his nut sack?

It may be a great "SXS" but its never going to be a player if its still being ran like this at this point...

 

[riverroyal]

Playing devils advocate. Put a windshield on the Mav R and try going 60 miles in it. Your not! And you will void the warranty.

Because allot of the Mav R cooler ducting is between the seats. You must buy and put on a roof ducting kit to relocate the intake for the oil cooler, trans coolers & turbo inner coolers. Speaking to a Can Am dealer guy, he said even if running a half windshield they have seen the temps increase and the car pulls power back or could go into a limp mode. So if you want to run any type of windscreen on a Mav R look at getting a roof ducting kit.


Per BRP;

• Feeds fresh air to the engine compartment.
• Sleek design for a sleek racing look.
• Increases cold air to the intake to prevent power lost.
• Required when using a full windshield.
• Requires a Sport Roof or Can-Am JL Audio Roof - Level 4.
• Not compatible with the Audio Roof Flip Kit

Was $579, now $499

What? Lol

 

[Raffit78]

I plan on buying all his products! lol

That said for all the shit I had to put into my can am I am still way ahead on the speed and it’s twice or more the car an x3 is..

The early adopters received a fair share of a discount, if you had to pay retail for the car, currently $49,000 on their website. Do you think you would feel the same against the current cars on the market at full price?

 

[rivermobster]

The early adopters received a fair share of a discount, if you had to pay retail for the car, currently $49,000 on their website. Do you think you would feel the same against the current cars on the market at full price?

 

[sandshark1]

Dealer probably won’t, but any accessories company or the aftermarket will. Hopefully they tell you that you need a ducting kit.

As far as ducting in the floor area like the new Pro R. That’s not going to be enough for the Speed. All the Polaris ducting is doing is helping reducing nevitive pressure and to help keep the radiator heat from swirling in the cab heating up the passengers. Years ago when Robby fist started sharing the design I talked to him and asked if there was a way to capture air from behind the grill, duct it down the center tunnel back to the radiator. He liked the idea and said they would see if there was away to do it with bulkhead there, but did not think it would need it. But this was before Windshield Gate, and that’s when a closed cab was also discussed and the radiator was getting moved forward anyways.

Aftermarket will either tell you to get the Can Am roof that is needed or make their own to sell with the windshield.

The ducting on the Pro R is not in the floor area. It comes through vents in the dash area.

 

[NIKAL]

Aftermarket will either tell you to get the Can Am roof that is needed or make their own to sell with the windshield.

The ducting on the Pro R is not in the floor area. It comes through vents in the dash area.

Not per Polaris explanation and photo. The air intakes are on the hood, and duct into the cab below the dash on the side kick panel floorboards, which is where you want it as your trying to remove the low pressure zone under the dash and circulate the air out.

 

[EPL]

Not per Polaris explanation and photo. The air intakes are on the hood, and duct into the cab below the dash on the side kick panel floorboards, which is where you want it as your trying to remove the low pressure zone under the dash and circulate the air out.

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Aren't those vents in the dash like sandshark1 said ?

 

[EdoublE]

The early adopters received a fair share of a discount, if you had to pay retail for the car, currently $49,000 on their website. Do you think you would feel the same against the current cars on the market at full price?

Not per Polaris explanation and photo. The air intakes are on the hood, and duct into the cab below the dash on the side kick panel floorboards, which is where you want it as your trying to remove the low pressure zone under the dash and circulate the air out.

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I believe you guy are talking apples and oranges @sandshark1 and @NIKAL. The hood intake and ducting on 24 and down is for the clutch. It runs from the hood intake which is dutched over the inner tunnel to the clutch cover. The 2025 has both and hood intake for the clutch and other hood intake pointsfor the cabin. The cabin dutching helps lower the cabin temps for the occupints similar to Polairs cooled seats.

 

[sandshark1]

Not per Polaris explanation and photo. The air intakes are on the hood, and duct into the cab below the dash on the side kick panel floorboards, which is where you want it as your trying to remove the low pressure zone under the dash and circulate the air out.

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I thought I saw a picture of a vent, but can't locate it.

 

[NIKAL]

Aren't those vents in the dash like sandshark1 said ?

No, the intake vents are on the hood, and the in cab vent outlets on the floorboard kick panels, under the dash by your legs.

 

[Bigbore500r]

No, the intake vents are on the hood, and the in cab vent outlets on the floorboard kick panels, under the dash by your legs.

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Those are actually BBQ lid vents. They catch on fire so often, seemed like the next logical addition

 

[NIKAL]

Those are actually BBQ lid vents. They catch on fire so often, seemed like the next logical addition

Lol! Actually I think Polaris has a handle on it now. I’ve not see or heard of to many burning down, due to Polaris issues. Maybe negligence or arson? With the Pro series chassis, there seems to be more room between the firewall and engine, which I’m told was a huge contributor to the heat and in early models the plastics would get hot, so more heat shields were added. We have not seen any recalls for fuel lines or fuel rails in a while. Last was the Pro XP. They seem to have figured out the turbo heat and controlled it. I think because of the more room & air flow around the engine on the Pro series. The other models aren’t Turbo’ed so maybe that’s why they don’t have any more engine heat issues, plus better QC control.

I read an article where Polaris admitted they needed better QC and were not happy with the quality they were producing a few years ago. They are still the king of recalls vs the other brands and Polaris issues more recalls vs all the other combined. So they are not perfect by no means. But I think they have improved a bit. And they learned with the lawsuits on the Pro XP model and all the checks they cut back to customers for the fuel line, clutch and one other thing I can’t remember? But it was a continuous Stop Ride Recall for many months during riding season.

 

[Fishd00d]

You know what you can do in a stock Pro R? Run a windshield

 

[riverroyal]

You know what you can do in a stock Pro R? Run a windshield

No way. How did they pull off that crazy engineering accomplishment!!

 

[HALLETT BOY]

The early adopters received a fair share of a discount, if you had to pay retail for the car, currently $49,000 on their website. Do you think you would feel the same against the current cars on the market at full price?

The early buyers received a discount because they maybe unknowingly became beta testers . All the problems that are cropping up seem to be remedied by Robbie in a timely manner . I do think it’s cool getting in on the ground floor of this exciting off - road endeavor . I like watching the progress .

 

[riverroyal]

The early buyers received a discount because they maybe unknowingly became beta testers . All the problems that are cropping up seem to be remedied by Robbie in a timely manner . I do think it’s cool getting in on the ground floor of this exciting off - road endeavor . I like watching the progress .

Unknowingly testing and not being able to use a 40k machine has lemon law written all over it.

How many are in garages now?

 

[rivermobster]

The early buyers received a discount because they maybe unknowingly became beta testers . All the problems that are cropping up seem to be remedied by Robbie in a timely manner . I do think it’s cool getting in on the ground floor of this exciting off - road endeavor . I like watching the progress .

How could you not know???

How Anyone could think a brand new product, no matter what it is, is not a beta test product?

You'd have to be living under a rock your whole life, to not understand how this works.

 

[Wizard29]

You Side by Scientists are funny.

 

[rivrrts429]

The fan bois are fanning lol

 

[NIKAL]

You know what you can do in a stock Pro R? Run a windshield

You can also sweat your balls off too!

I really like the new 2025 radiator shield and under dash vents they put in. It should help allot. I wonder if the aftermarket will add some sort of inline billage pump blower in those ducts so you can control the airflow and possibly increase the air flow, especially in slower speeds and blow air across your legs. That would be cool!


Polaris has stepped up their game in allot of places.

 

[Fishd00d]

You can also sweat your balls off too!

I really like the new 2025 radiator shield and under dash vents they put in. It should help allot. I wonder if the aftermarket will add some sort of inline billage pump blower in those ducts so you can control the airflow and possibly increase the air flow, especially in slower speeds and blow air across your legs. That would be cool!


Polaris has stepped up their game in allot of places.

Honestly I was never hot in mine that made me be like oh man this is hot. I did not have a windshield so maybe it would have been more noticeable with one.

 

[Bigbore500r]

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The fan bois are fanning lol

Radio Flyer is looking solid, but i'm waiting for Bobcat to debut their game changing Sxs.....

 

[rivermobster]

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The fan bois are fanning lol

Do we have that stat as a percentage of units sold?

I wonder where Speed would fit in??

 

[rivrrts429]

Do we have that stat as a percentage of units sold?

I wonder where Speed would fit in??

I thought about that but you have BRP, Yamaha and Polaris all in there. The numbers should be somewhat close in percentages with those three, at least I would think they would be, but Polaris far exceeds their direct competitors.

Here’s the link…

Increasing Number of OHVs Pulled from Market Due to Safety Concerns

A Consumer Federation of America analysis of off-highway vehicle recalls found that over the past nine years, there have been 89 OHV recalls.

consumerfed.org

 

[sandshark1]

Do we have that stat as a percentage of units sold?

I wonder where Speed would fit in??

Speed I do not believe had any official recalls. If you went by the other issues that occurred versus how many units were delivered they would have a pretty high percentage.

Polaris having the most recalls is no shock. At least over the last few years for them is has not been fire related.

None of them are having the Toyota Tundra problem of recalling motors.

 

[arch stanton]

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The fan bois are fanning lol

Has Funco ever had a recall ?
I know it’s not for off road use it’s just a sand car
It will never win the Baja 500 but you won’t either even if you had a car capable of such a feat Well maybe one or 2 of you could the rest of us just not capable.
All this DRAMA over such an inferior class of toy it reminds me of people arguing over Bud light vs Coors Light or Diet Coke vs Diet Pepsi.
And Dam don’t some people get there tities all in a twisted about what is the better toy.
I am not saying this info won’t be useful to me as at some point, I will be buying one as a backup to a real performance Sand car but what giant time suck for those that discuss the minutia of Robbie’s Business and perceived personal shortcomings I will now go refill my whiskey glass and wait with great anticipation of the forthcoming ridicule of my opinion and my choice of off road transportation

 

[Romans9]

Has Funco ever had a recall ?
I know it’s not for off road use it’s just a sand car
It will never win the Baja 500 but you won’t either even if you had a car capable of such a feat Well maybe one or 2 of you could the rest of us just not capable.
All this DRAMA over such an inferior class of toy it reminds me of people arguing over Bud light vs Coors Light or Diet Coke vs Diet Pepsi.
And Dam don’t some people get there tities all in a twisted about what is the better toy.
I am not saying this info won’t be useful to me as at some point, I will be buying one as a backup to a real performance Sand car but what giant time suck for those that discuss the minutia of Robbie’s Business and perceived personal shortcomings I will now go refill my whiskey glass and wait with great anticipation of the forthcoming ridicule of my opinion and my choice of off road transportation
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The Hustler.
I still have the build sheet from the one I should have had built…..