Speed UTV take 3

[rivermobster]

Race of attrition. Finishing is key.

 

[dread Pirate]

Damn, not good….

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I don't know if it's the audio, but the car sounds like shit.

 

[rivrrts429]

I don't know if it's the audio, but the car sounds like shit.

They definitely have a unique sound to them but I can’t tell if it’s the compressed audio or it’s running poorly either. RG towed Max for a ways from where he broke and lugging the car with a broken LF wheel isn’t easy. It might just be the audio but I hear what you’re hearing too.

 

[River Dirt 2]

I posted this in another form as well..

Hey folks, tragedy has struck the Speed family today at the NORRA Rally. Any chance we can all send our thoughts and prayers to all involved and keep all comments positive and supportive

 

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The pilot's death is confirmed
Johnny Kaiser 51 years old who came today running the Norra Mexican 1000 event aboard the Buggie Class 5 of the Paquette Racing team #507 where he was impacted by another competitor at the height of the Cancun Cross 32 km from Cd. Constitution BCS!!

Here we leave one of his last running photos captured by yours truly taken 20 minutes before his sad destination...
We regret this terrible event and wish him quick resignation and condolences to the whole family!

Rest in peace Johnny...

R.I.P.

PAUL Gordon Photography

 

[Fishd00d]

That race was no joke this year!! That was a gnarly course in some areas and not just all fire roads thats for sure. Here is the same post I put on another website summing up the race:

Here is the real deal. The Pro R is simply the BEST UTV out on the market right now. Thats not an opinion thats a straight up FACT. The Pro R racing this race were mostly STOCK machines, go look at the entries and the machines for them. Lambert was the only one in a "race" car and his is one of the most stock ones there is! He has stock front and rear suspension including stock balljoints! Wayne won in his PRERUNNER Pro R which once again is mostly stock! The speeds these cars are going is amazing. We had 1 driver error and 2 clogged air filters, one belt that ripped in half with a rock when we had the clutch intake disconnected, thats IT. The SPEED SXS were falling apart daily, including Max's full built race car. I dont think it finished one stage without at least breaking a belt. We did NOTHING to our car at night besides change the airfilter. Same axles we started with (minus the crash front right lol), changed tires around but never got a flat, added 1 QT of oil one time, washed it off. Once again not talking shit at all just talking facts.

20 out of 23 Pro R Entered in the race finished.
12 out of 17 Speed Finished

The highest speed UTV that finished would have been 8th in the Pro R class.

Hope you guys enjoyed watching the live feed all day everyday!!!

 

[dirtslinger2]

That race was no joke this year!! That was a gnarly course in some areas and not just all fire roads thats for sure. Here is the same post I put on another website summing up the race:

Here is the real deal. The Pro R is simply the BEST UTV out on the market right now. Thats not an opinion thats a straight up FACT. The Pro R racing this race were mostly STOCK machines, go look at the entries and the machines for them. Lambert was the only one in a "race" car and his is one of the most stock ones there is! He has stock front and rear suspension including stock balljoints! Wayne won in his PRERUNNER Pro R which once again is mostly stock! The speeds these cars are going is amazing. We had 1 driver error and 2 clogged air filters, one belt that ripped in half with a rock when we had the clutch intake disconnected, thats IT. The SPEED SXS were falling apart daily, including Max's full built race car. I dont think it finished one stage without at least breaking a belt. We did NOTHING to our car at night besides change the airfilter. Same axles we started with (minus the crash front right lol), changed tires around but never got a flat, added 1 QT of oil one time, washed it off. Once again not talking shit at all just talking facts.

20 out of 23 Pro R Entered in the race finished.
12 out of 17 Speed Finished

The highest speed UTV that finished would have been 8th in the Pro R class.

Hope you guys enjoyed watching the live feed all day everyday!!!

Shouldn't you be hungover and still sleeping?

 

[Fishd00d]

Shouldn't you be hungover and still sleeping?

Its funny I was too tired to even drink much. I had 4 drinks and went to sleep hahaha. Tonight its on though!!!!

 

[rivermobster]

Its funny I was too tired to even drink much. I had 4 drinks and went to sleep hahaha. Tonight its on though!!!!

Nice write up.

 

[beerrun]

It’s a joke

I love that shirt

 

[rivrrts429]

Its funny I was too tired to even drink much. I had 4 drinks and went to sleep hahaha. Tonight its on though!!!!

Congrats on finishing Fish. Are they doing the party on the beach again this year? The fireworks show is legit.

Again, congrats and drink it up tonight!

 

[Fishd00d]

Congrats on finishing Fish. Are they doing the party on the beach again this year? The fireworks show is legit.

Again, congrats and drink it up tonight!

They are doing it at Costa Azul this year and im told it will be even better then before but I dont know the difference since this is our first one lol!! Thanks it was so much fun. See you guys at the 500?

 

[Bpracing1127]

That race was no joke this year!! That was a gnarly course in some areas and not just all fire roads thats for sure. Here is the same post I put on another website summing up the race:

Here is the real deal. The Pro R is simply the BEST UTV out on the market right now. Thats not an opinion thats a straight up FACT. The Pro R racing this race were mostly STOCK machines, go look at the entries and the machines for them. Lambert was the only one in a "race" car and his is one of the most stock ones there is! He has stock front and rear suspension including stock balljoints! Wayne won in his PRERUNNER Pro R which once again is mostly stock! The speeds these cars are going is amazing. We had 1 driver error and 2 clogged air filters, one belt that ripped in half with a rock when we had the clutch intake disconnected, thats IT. The SPEED SXS were falling apart daily, including Max's full built race car. I dont think it finished one stage without at least breaking a belt. We did NOTHING to our car at night besides change the airfilter. Same axles we started with (minus the crash front right lol), changed tires around but never got a flat, added 1 QT of oil one time, washed it off. Once again not talking shit at all just talking facts.

20 out of 23 Pro R Entered in the race finished.
12 out of 17 Speed Finished

The highest speed UTV that finished would have been 8th in the Pro R class.

Hope you guys enjoyed watching the live feed all day everyday!!!

Do you have some of the times ?

Highest speed time
Highest Pro R time
Your time?

 

[Fishd00d]

Do you have some of the times ?

Highest speed time
Highest Pro R time
Your time?

Here is ALL of the times, you can sort by Specials on each day, overall, class, whatever you want:

NORRA

NORRA: National Off-Road Racing Association, Home of the Mexican 1000 Rally

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[rivrrts429]

They are doing it at Costa Azul this year and im told it will be even better then before but I dont know the difference since this is our first one lol!! Thanks it was so much fun. See you guys at the 500?

Took the team golfing yesterday for a “team meeting” to discuss our options lol

We will definitely be at the NORRA 500. Car is going thru some big updates right now. All new suspension and chassis updates to exceed SCORE requirements. After testing we probably won’t be ready until late summer.

Have fun tonight. It’s always a big ass party and the people are rad.

 

[rivrrts429]

That race was no joke this year!! That was a gnarly course in some areas and not just all fire roads thats for sure.

I never understood the fire road reference. Much of the race is the Baja 1000 course. I think NORRA being a rally versus traditional type race creates that optic because the course is definitely not fire road, especially the NORRA 500.

 

[EPL]

Does anyone know of a normal everyday Speed owner that has received their Speed Key ? Has RG started delivering them ?

 

[paradise]

Does anyone know of a normal everyday Speed owner that has received their Speed Key ? Has RG started delivering them ?

No

 

[Bpracing1127]

Does anyone know of a normal everyday Speed owner that has received their Speed Key ? Has RG started delivering them ?

No speed keys, he hasn’t passed carb or epa yet.

In fact all speed being sold are still model year 2023

 

[rivermobster]

Took the team golfing yesterday for a “team meeting” to discuss our options lol

We will definitely be at the NORRA 500. Car is going thru some big updates right now. All new suspension and chassis updates to exceed SCORE requirements. After testing we probably won’t be ready until late summer.

Have fun tonight. It’s always a big ass party and the people are rad.

Which car?

 

[rivrrts429]

Which car?

The four seat two seater Polaris lol

 

[DLC]

The four seat two seater Polaris lol

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I like that look and feel while driving

longer wheelbase makes ya more stable but doesn’t turn worth a chit…..

at least my can am maxxxxx doesn’t

lol

car looks awesome!

Congratulations on the Norra Finish…..

 

[RiverDave]

Saw some guy win the pci radio 300 in a pretty stock Speed Utv on 35’s

 

[outboard_256]

Saw some guy win the pci radio 300 in a pretty stock Speed Utv on 35’s

That's pretty impressive. I know car #2965 raced it and had non stop issues. First heat had over heating issues, broken belt, several cv boots lost, and an broken axle causing him to time out on lap 5. 2nd heat only made it one lap before the exhaust broke and they had to pull out. Sucks because they put a lot of work into the car. They were running this cool dual fan setup on the clutch cover. Glad to hear a different speed was able to finish and win.

 

[Bpracing1127]

That's pretty impressive. I know car #2965 raced it and had non stop issues. First heat had over heating issues, broken belt, several cv boots lost, and an broken axle causing him to time out on lap 5. 2nd heat only made it one lap before the exhaust broke and they had to pull out. Sucks because they put a lot of work into the car. They were running this cool dual fan setup on the clutch cover. Glad to hear a different speed was able to finish and win.

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Wasn’t a different speed. That was him. He won by default. Winning is winning. The saying if you ain’t first your last holds here as it was 2 entries. The other entry DNF the first stage. So all the this guy had to do was finish one lap on stage 2 to win.

His car damn near fell apart at the end.

 

[Bigbore500r]

That race was no joke this year!! That was a gnarly course in some areas and not just all fire roads thats for sure. Here is the same post I put on another website summing up the race:

Here is the real deal. The Pro R is simply the BEST UTV out on the market right now. Thats not an opinion thats a straight up FACT. The Pro R racing this race were mostly STOCK machines, go look at the entries and the machines for them. Lambert was the only one in a "race" car and his is one of the most stock ones there is! He has stock front and rear suspension including stock balljoints! Wayne won in his PRERUNNER Pro R which once again is mostly stock! The speeds these cars are going is amazing. We had 1 driver error and 2 clogged air filters, one belt that ripped in half with a rock when we had the clutch intake disconnected, thats IT. The SPEED SXS were falling apart daily, including Max's full built race car. I dont think it finished one stage without at least breaking a belt. We did NOTHING to our car at night besides change the airfilter. Same axles we started with (minus the crash front right lol), changed tires around but never got a flat, added 1 QT of oil one time, washed it off. Once again not talking shit at all just talking facts.

20 out of 23 Pro R Entered in the race finished.
12 out of 17 Speed Finished

The highest speed UTV that finished would have been 8th in the Pro R class.

Hope you guys enjoyed watching the live feed all day everyday!!!

Congrats on the race!

From a "performance / potential" standpoint - do you feel the Speed car shows advantages in certain scenarios? Leaving durability / reliability out of the equasion here (separate conversation)-
On paper it has alot going for it, but im curious if it translates out in the field under race conditions, from what you are seeing.
Obviously Robbie has made a thousand videos comparing how it is designed, constructed, geometry, etc and explained how it should be better.

What do you feel the Speed car's strengths are, and what are it's weaknesses ?

 

[rivrrts429]

Congrats on the race!

From a "performance / potential" standpoint - do you feel the Speed car shows advantages in certain scenarios? Leaving durability / reliability out of the equasion here (separate conversation)-
On paper it has alot going for it, but im curious if it translates out in the field under race conditions, from what you are seeing.
Obviously Robbie has made a thousand videos comparing how it is designed, constructed, geometry, etc and explained how it should be better.

What do you feel the Speed car's strengths are, and what are it's weaknesses ?

Suspension and looks it’s a definite gamer. The drivetrain is what appears to be trash. They need to get it together and get that resolved quick.

 

[rivermobster]

Wasn’t a different speed. That was him. He won by default. Winning is winning. The saying if you ain’t first your last holds here as it was 2 entries. The other entry DNF the first stage. So all the this guy had to do was finish one lap on stage 2 to win.

His car damn near fell apart at the end.

I don't care Who you are...


Now that's Fucking hilarious if it is true!

 

[Fishd00d]

Congrats on the race!

From a "performance / potential" standpoint - do you feel the Speed car shows advantages in certain scenarios? Leaving durability / reliability out of the equasion here (separate conversation)-
On paper it has alot going for it, but im curious if it translates out in the field under race conditions, from what you are seeing.
Obviously Robbie has made a thousand videos comparing how it is designed, constructed, geometry, etc and explained how it should be better.

What do you feel the Speed car's strengths are, and what are its weaknesses ?

Suspension it’s there I’m sure. Also I like how the CG is really low it seems to handle well and be able to throw it in turns. Other than that I don’t see any advantage in real world racing use over the last week.

 

[rivrrts429]

I like that look and feel while driving

longer wheelbase makes ya more stable but doesn’t turn worth a chit…..

at least my can am maxxxxx doesn’t

lol

car looks awesome!

Congratulations on the Norra Finish…..

Thanks bud. It’s weird driving as the dash has been extended into what was once the front driver/passenger area so the front end is looong. With all the weight mounted low and driver/co-pilot sitting in the middle of the car it airs out really flat and predictable. The ELKO suspension works crazy good too.

We didn’t race the NORRA 1000 this year but will race their 500 series. Looking at doing some Legacy series and maybe King Of Hammers this year.

 

[rivermobster]

Thanks bud. It’s weird driving as the dash has been extended into what was once the front driver/passenger area so the front end is looong. With all the weight mounted low and driver/co-pilot sitting in the middle of the car it airs out really flat and predictable. The ELKO suspension works crazy good too.

We didn’t race the NORRA 1000 this year but will race their 500 series. Looking at doing some Legacy series and maybe King Of Hammers this year.

ELCO suspension??

 

[rivrrts429]

ELCO suspension??

Quick reply and no self editing led to the mistake

 

[rivermobster]

Quick reply and no self editing led to the mistake

Did you ever find someone to find tune those shocks? Or did you just do it yourself?

 

[NIKAL]

That's pretty impressive. I know car #2965 raced it and had non stop issues. First heat had over heating issues, broken belt, several cv boots lost, and an broken axle causing him to time out on lap 5. 2nd heat only made it one lap before the exhaust broke and they had to pull out. Sucks because they put a lot of work into the car. They were running this cool dual fan setup on the clutch cover. Glad to hear a different speed was able to finish and win.

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There’s more than just getting air out of the CVT housing. It’s been confirmed there is a clutch alignment issue, and possibly a few other things within the clutches.

 

[rivrrts429]

Did you ever find someone to find tune those shocks? Or did you just do it yourself?

Found a tech that works at Fox Shocks that knows them well. He’s in San Diego. Sending back east was a pain in the ass so happy I found someone locally. I opened them up and they’re not all that difficult but he can build a spicier tune for them way better than I can.

 

[rivermobster]

Found a tech that works at Fox Shocks that knows them well. He’s in San Diego. Sending back east was a pain in the ass so happy I found someone locally. I opened them up and they’re not all that difficult but he can build a spicier tune for them way better than I can.

They definitely have big potential in the right hands. Good luck!

 

[rivrrts429]

They definitely have big potential in the right hands. Good luck!

We tested both sets we own. We have a set of Fox as well. We like them! A well set up suspension feels like you added a hundred horsepower.

 

[rivermobster]

We tested both sets we own. We have a set of Fox as well. We like them! A well set up suspension feels like you added a hundred horsepower.

Hell yeah it does. Good suspension and dependability. Winning.

 

[RiverDave]

Wasn’t a different speed. That was him. He won by default. Winning is winning. The saying if you ain’t first your last holds here as it was 2 entries. The other entry DNF the first stage. So all the this guy had to do was finish one lap on stage 2 to win.

His car damn near fell apart at the end.

I just saw his victory post.. I’m curious where did you get all that information, especially the part about falling apart at the end?

 

[rivermobster]

I just saw his victory post.. I’m curious where did you get all that information, especially the part about falling apart at the end?

Got link?

 

[rivrrts429]

I’m not familiar with M.O.R.E classes and their race numbers but here ya go…

5) Combined Race Times - Google Drive

docs.google.com

 

[RiverDave]

Got link?

It was on fb.. it just had some pics and that they had won. I’m wondering where the it almost fell apart info came from..

 

[rivermobster]

It was on fb.. it just had some pics and that they had won. I’m wondering where the it almost fell apart info came from..

Maybe he was there?

I’m not familiar with M.O.R.E classes and their race numbers but here ya go…

5) Combined Race Times - Google Drive

docs.google.com

 

[RiverDave]

Maybe he was there?



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Well that is why I asked the question of where the information came from..

 

[rivermobster]

Well that is why I asked the question of where the information came from..

I'm wondering what class the Speed Cars were in.

 

[rivrrts429]

I'm wondering what class the Speed Cars were in.

Potentially class 2900

 

[jesco]

I don't care Who you are...


Now that's Fucking hilarious if it is true!

Very likely to be true... theres so much state side racing going on right now with different promoters that the classes get very small. Everybody keeps spreading out and cherri picking races that fit their schedules best, which I totally get. I race in the UNLTD series, Parker 400, Mint 400 and Cal 300... you have to race ALL 3 to be in their points race. I took 2nd at Parker out of 4 entries, 7th at Mint out of 13 (We DNFd, my kid rolled the car with a 15min lead on last lap... that one HURTS)... now for the Cal 300 in October all I have to do is show up and start the race and we win the points series since Im the only guy to "race" all 3 races.... Not really a big feather in my cap. Id rather get top 10 in a field of 30 racers and have more competition, but I get it, people race the races that fit their schedules/budget/time.

 

[rivermobster]

Very likely to be true... theres so much state side racing going on right now with different promoters that the classes get very small. Everybody keeps spreading out and cherri picking races that fit their schedules best, which I totally get. I race in the UNLTD series, Parker 400, Mint 400 and Cal 300... you have to race ALL 3 to be in their points race. I took 2nd at Parker out of 4 entries, 7th at Mint out of 13 (We DNFd, my kid rolled the car with a 15min lead on last lap... that one HURTS)... now for the Cal 300 in October all I have to do is show up and start the race and we win the points series since Im the only guy to "race" all 3 races.... Not really a big feather in my cap. Id rather get top 10 in a field of 30 racers and have more competition, but I get it, people race the races that fit their schedules/budget/time.

No, I was talking more about the car falling apart situation...

My Daughter won a martial arts competition in Vegas, because the Only other competitor, in her class, didn't show up.

That particular trophy did Not end up on her shelf.

 

[rivermobster]

Potentially class 2900

I wonder what JSpeed means?

 

[rivrrts429]

I wonder what JSpeed means?

Probably just a team name. Often times people want to go race because they were fast amongst there buddies and they don’t have an official race team organization so they’ll utilize their first name and car.