Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[JayBreww]

So December?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

lol

All the way to the bank

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So December?

Sure why not.

I’m surprised no one has freaked out that they built several cars in China to do all the final parts testing and sign off.

 

[PaPaG]

All the way to the bank

Lets see some pictures of your speed car? I want a ride when you get one.

 

[outboard_256]

Some updates -

Prices going up again in 5 days.

Dealer in Havasu will be ready for car deliveries, but all final prep work at the building in Havasu will be done after the first cars come out.

16k cars have been sold or allocated to dealers. About 4k of those are the cars “customer” cars ordered through their website or dealers. Speed’s goal is to deliver all 4000 of those cars by end of year.

Deliveries they say will happen in Anaheim, Havasu, Possibly Sand Show, and to various regional Speed dealers. They say they are targeting September to begin deliveries.

New electronics accessory bundle is available on the website to “unlock” the dash. It Includes belt temp, tire pressures, front and rear cameras and an accessory roof harness. All of the electronics in this bundle are viewable on the factory display.

If you buy any of these accessories later down the line you will have to have a Speed dealer unlock your dash to use them.

Friend was bragging about how everything is plug and play and easy to add on speed accessories later. Well I guess you have to pay the dealer to "unlock" the item in the dash and install it. So something like tire pressure sensors will be over $1200 in dealer fee's and labor (not inlcluding the parts) and you can't do it at home yourself unless you go aftermarket non-speed parts. They will be forcing everyone to install anything at dealers only and what if you don't live by one of the dealers or want to pay these crazy prices?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Friend was bragging about how everything is plug and play and easy to add on speed accessories later. Well I guess you have to pay the dealer to "unlock" the item in the dash and install it. So something like tire pressure sensors will be over $1200 in dealer fee's and labor (not inlcluding the parts) and you can't do it at home yourself unless you go aftermarket non-speed parts. They will be forcing everyone to install anything at dealers only and what if you don't live by one of the dealers or want to pay these crazy prices?

All their accessories are plug and play - light bars, comms, chase lights, stereo. Seems the electronics that use CANBUS are not at this time. All the chassis harnesses are pre terminated for all the accessories, including these.

This is just me saying if this, but in future years the whole thing will likely be unlocked from the factory so dealers CAN just plug in the accessories. That makes way more sense.

Honestly I see this for what it is, just a ploy to get more margin out of the early cars.

For $1200 it seems like a fair deal for what you get.

They did say that the belt temp would be included way way back in development, and they said that was one thing they did pull out of the original feature list.

Oh they are also going to have 35” tires a available in limited quantities shortly.

 

[hallett21]

Friend was bragging about how everything is plug and play and easy to add on speed accessories later. Well I guess you have to pay the dealer to "unlock" the item in the dash and install it. So something like tire pressure sensors will be over $1200 in dealer fee's and labor (not inlcluding the parts) and you can't do it at home yourself unless you go aftermarket non-speed parts. They will be forcing everyone to install anything at dealers only and what if you don't live by one of the dealers or want to pay these crazy prices?

I guess you wouldn’t buy one?

I’d bet most SXS customization is done by shops with owners cutting a check or swiping a card.

Customization in the owners garage is probably the minority.

 

[outboard_256]

I guess you wouldn’t buy one?

I’d bet most SXS customization is done by shops with owners cutting a check or swiping a card.

Customization in the owners garage is probably the minority.

You can't just go to any shop to get the work done. You have to go to a speed dealer. So the majority will also be screwed if they don't live near a speed dealer.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I guess you wouldn’t buy one?

I’d bet most SXS customization is done by shops with owners cutting a check or swiping a card.

Customization in the owners garage is probably the minority.

That is one of the neat things about the Wildcat XX when it came out and the Speed cars. Now you can actually order a comms kit or stereo kit and install it in your garage. If you can turn a screwdriver, it all plugs right in.

 

[JayBreww]

Sure why not.

I’m surprised no one has freaked out that they built several cars in China to do all the final parts testing and sign off.

Yea sure they’ve upfront about everything, but I would think this has been in the back of the folder this whole time. For the car you’re getting for the price, it be kinda hard to make a decent profit building it here.

They mentioned they’d like to build them in either Arizona or California for the simple fact of logistics price, and them doing all of the shipping in house.
Wouldn’t that take some time to set up a factory?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You can't just go to any shop to get the work done. You have to go to a speed dealer. So the majority will also be screwed if they don't live near a speed dealer.

That is just for the CANBUS sensors for tire pressure, belt temp and cameras.

You pretty much have to do that with any other car on the market. Our you have to buy screens and components to install to make it all work.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yea sure they’ve upfront about everything, but I would think this has been in the back of the folder this whole time. For the car you’re getting for the price, it be kinda hard to make a decent profit building it here.

They mentioned they’d like to build them in either Arizona or California for the simple fact of logistics price, and them doing all of the shipping in house.
Wouldn’t that take some time to set up a factory?

They are building them here. The factory is in Texas. It is set up now. They would like to build them in AZ for logistics, but if that happens, that would be later down the line.

These cars were built in China for logistics and test fitting parts and pieces. The Speed team as been overseas for a month now and will be there until every last part is signed off on.

 

[EarpRider]

I guess you wouldn’t buy one?

I’d bet most SXS customization is done by shops with owners cutting a check or swiping a card.

Customization in the owners garage is probably the minority.

Seriously? Maybe The Snowflake generation.
Out of the 30 or so guys I ride with, in different states, we all do are own customization. Adding new stuff to your own car is half the fun.

 

[PaPaG]

Seriously? Maybe The Snowflake generation.
Out of the 30 or so guys I ride with, in different states, we all do are own customization. Adding new stuff to your own car is half the fun.

I wonder when American parts makers will start making aftermarket parts for the Chinese parts once they start falling apart.

 

[hallett21]

Seriously? Maybe The Snowflake generation.
Out of the 30 or so guys I ride with, in different states, we all do are own customization. Adding new stuff to your own car is half the fun.

I guess? I make more money doing work for customers than I save by doing my own work .

 

[brecht]

Kinda lame they added a roof wiring harness as part of the bundle and now the light package is just rock lights. Before it was front/rear car, bed light and dome light now its just 4 corners of rock lights

 

[702sandman]

From the pics I’ve seen looks like the parts and fixtures for those part were made there in china? All the workers had on Hisun shirts. The assembly’s looked nice, I would think those first cars were 100% made in china by the pics I saw

 

[Havasu blue label]

They have a booth at the oc fair taking deposit

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

From the pics I’ve seen looks like the parts and fixtures for those part were made there in china? All the workers had on Hisun shirts. The assembly’s looked nice, I would think those first cars were 100% made in china by the pics I saw

That is what it seems like. They said the cars they are using overseas to finalize everything were indeed built in China.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Seriously? Maybe The Snowflake generation.
Out of the 30 or so guys I ride with, in different states, we all do are own customization. Adding new stuff to your own car is half the fun.

Seems like a lot of middle aged dudes spending $50-$70K on turnkey SXS builds.

 

[rivermobster]

All their accessories are plug and play - light bars, comms, chase lights, stereo. Seems the electronics that use CANBUS are not at this time. All the chassis harnesses are pre terminated for all the accessories, including these.

This is just me saying if this, but in future years the whole thing will likely be unlocked from the factory so dealers CAN just plug in the accessories. That makes way more sense.

Honestly I see this for what it is, just a ploy to get more margin out of the early cars.

For $1200 it seems like a fair deal for what you get.

They did say that the belt temp would be included way way back in development, and they said that was one thing they did pull out of the original feature list.

Oh they are also going to have 35” tires a available in limited quantities shortly.

Time the fuck out...

This is a rubber band car?? I was under the impression it had a transmission and clutches and shit!

What does this have for a drivetrain behind the engine?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Time the fuck out...

This is a rubber band car?? I was under the impression it had a transmission and clutches and shit!

What does this have for a drivetrain behind the engine?

Rubber band car with shift on the fly gearbox with overdrive.

A transmission in any of these things would be heavy and expensive. These cars are already getting portly. The new 4 seat RZR with a 4 cylinder is 2600 lbs with no accessories.

 

[Bpracing1127]

What happened to April deliveries?

At this point I don’t trust there delivery dates whatsoever

 

[angiebaby]

I don't have the time to read through these threads, but I'm curious, when did you hopefully soon-to-be speed car owners order them? What kind of deposit was required?

 

[Bpracing1127]

I don't have the time to read through these threads, but I'm curious, when did you hopefully soon-to-be speed cars order them? What kind of deposit was required?

I want to say 2019 and 2500$ at the time but I could be wrong

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I don't have the time to read through these threads, but I'm curious, when did you hopefully soon-to-be speed car owners order them? What kind of deposit was required?

$1500 deposit. They started taking those Sept 2019. MSRP was $32K. MSRP is now $39K for the same car and going up again next week.

In late 2020 you paid for whatever options you elected to buy for the car. So you paid for your options and a $1500 deposit. You can finance or pay cash for the remainder.

What happened to April deliveries?

At this point I don’t trust there delivery dates whatsoever

I know I don't trust Polaris either They screw with the delivery dates and raise your price before you get the car. Let alone the multiple stop sales and recalls. Then there is Can Am that sells you a bricked car with no cluster

Seems that no one has any magical powers to overcome global supply chain challenges.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

$1500 deposit. They started taking those Sept 2019. MSRP was $32K. MSRP is now $39K for the same car and going up again next week.

In late 2020 you paid for whatever options you elected to buy for the car. So you paid for your options and a $1500 deposit. You can finance or pay cash for the remainder.



I know I don't trust Polaris either They screw with the delivery dates and raise your price before you get the car. Let alone the multiple stop sales and recalls. Then there is Can Am that sells you a bricked car with no cluster

Seems that no one has any magical powers to overcome global supply chain challenges.

Whats Carl think?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Whats Carl think?

His prices probably went up

 

[Angler]

So, who has a spot for sale?

 

[rivermobster]

So, who has a spot for sale?

I've been telling my friend to sell his spot for over a year. PM me if you're serious.

 

[yz450mm]

Rubber band car with shift on the fly gearbox with overdrive.

A transmission in any of these things would be heavy and expensive. These cars are already getting portly. The new 4 seat RZR with a 4 cylinder is 2600 lbs with no accessories.

YXZ drivetrain is pretty bulletproof, and I don't think the 5 speed sequential is overly expensive.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

YXZ drivetrain is pretty bulletproof, and I don't think the 5 speed sequential is overly expensive.

No one wants to shift all day long is the problem. The modern crop of 4 seat cars are 1000 lbs heavier than a YXZ.. with about twice the HP.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I've been telling my friend to sell his spot for over a year. PM me if you're serious.

Why sell now you are this close to delivery? Take delivery, drive it for a weekend and flip it for more profit at this point.

 

[Racer56]

Some updates -

Prices going up again in 5 days.

Dealer in Havasu will be ready for car deliveries, but all final prep work at the building in Havasu will be done after the first cars come out.

16k cars have been sold or allocated to dealers. About 4k of those are the cars “customer” cars ordered through their website or dealers. Speed’s goal is to deliver all 4000 of those cars by end of year.

Deliveries they say will happen in Anaheim, Havasu, Possibly Sand Show, and to various regional Speed dealers. They say they are targeting September to begin deliveries.

New electronics accessory bundle is available on the website to “unlock” the dash. It Includes belt temp, tire pressures, front and rear cameras and an accessory roof harness. All of the electronics in this bundle are viewable on the factory display.

If you buy any of these accessories later down the line you will have to have a Speed dealer unlock your dash to use them.

Did you buy the bundle, I did. I'm starting to get really excited about taking delivery of my El Jefe in time for riding season. You, RD and I need to go for a ride when we get our cars.

 

[caribbean20]

No one wants to shift all day long is the problem. The modern crop of 4 seat cars are 1000 lbs heavier than a YXZ.. with about twice the HP.

I’m by no means a SXS expert, but we rent every July in Vail. Last year drove a new one with a dual clutch tranny. Talon maybe, don’t remember?? I enjoyed driving it and it also had an automatic mode.

Would have thought dual clutch would now be state of the art.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I’m by no means a SXS expert, but we rent every July in Vail. Last year drove a new one with a dual clutch tranny. Talon maybe, don’t remember?? I enjoyed driving it and it also had an automatic mode.

Would have thought dual clutch would now be state of the art.

Yes the Talon does shift automatically. I don’t know if they are gonna stick with the belts on these things long term, but it allows them to use lighter driveshafts, half shafts, transmissions, etc because the belt will take shock and slip before causing damage to more expensive components.

Belts are a wear item, they do break but all the manufacturers have them pretty well figured out now.

Someone will pop in and say they go through a belt a day, and someone else will retort and say they have 5000 miles on their belt.

 

[Wizard29]

YXZ drivetrain is pretty bulletproof, and I don't think the 5 speed sequential is overly expensive.

Yeah, come on man. Guys want to be Billy Bad Ass of the desert, but don't want to shift because that's too much work.

What's the matter with you?

 

[caribbean20]

Yes the Talon does shift automatically. I don’t know if they are gonna stick with the belts on these things long term, but it allows them to use lighter driveshafts, half shafts, transmissions, etc because the belt will take shock and slip before causing damage to more expensive components.

Belts are a wear item, they do break but all the manufacturers have them pretty well figured out now.

Someone will pop in and say they go through a belt a day, and someone else will retort and say they have 5000 miles on their belt.

I think you’re a car guy too, and you know what the car rags say about CVTs. If we ever buy a SXS (the one off road experience my wife actually likes), I’m hoping for dual clutch, same as in a sports car.

Any case, good luck on your new toy. Sounds like fun and state of the art in every other aspect.

 

[rivermobster]

Why sell now you are this close to delivery? Take delivery, drive it for a weekend and flip it for more profit at this point.

Close to delivery. That's some funny shit right there!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Close to delivery. That's some funny shit right there!

What’s funny is paying another 20k and still waiting for a Polaris

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I think you’re a car guy too, and you know what the car rags say about CVTs. If we ever buy a SXS (the one off road experience my wife actually likes), I’m hoping for dual clutch, same as in a sports car.

Any case, good luck on your new toy. Sounds like fun and state of the art in every other aspect.

The CVT works great in the dirt honestly. I would “like” to be able to bang gears about 5% of the time.

And this is coming from a car guy that DDs a manual trans vehicle.

 

[Blackmagic94]

Why sell now you are this close to delivery? Take delivery, drive it for a weekend and flip it for more profit at this point.

Remember when you wanted to bet money that you would have a car by January. Pepperidge farms remembers

 

[Groper]

So, if you post a question in either of the FB SPEED UTV pages and ask:

"How's the production going, any photos of the cars going through the production process"
"Any updates on delivery's"


Nothing negative but just asking a simple question, or the TROLLS will just lambast you for asking !!

The mods will quickly remove your post

 

[rivermobster]

What’s funny is paying another 20k and still waiting for a Polaris

I thought we were talking about Speed cars.

Im just hoping he doesn't get burned.

 

[RiverDave]

So, who has a spot for sale?

I have 113 and 312 on four seaters with a ton of options.

 

[TPC]

Would have thought dual clutch would now be state of the art.

Early Talon owners report problems with that system. Dunno if Honda ever had a solution.

 

[riverroyal]

Lol

 

[Bpracing1127]

I have 113 and 312 on four seaters with a ton of options.

For msrp (today?) lmao

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I don't have the time to read through these threads, but I'm curious, when did you hopefully soon-to-be speed car owners order them? What kind of deposit was required?

Are you buying Daddy a gift?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Remember when you wanted to bet money that you would have a car by January. Pepperidge farms remembers

Remember when you could have won and were too chicken to put your money where your keyboard was

I was fixing a broken Polaris in January instead .