Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[LargeOrangeFont]

Highway driving is scary. Even more so next to a 80k lb truck. 85 in the dirt is hauling ass in a 2k lb vehicle. Shit 70-75 in my turbo s is terrifying as one ditch or rock or whatever could be bad.

LOL Oh yeah I forgot about the wind from a passing truck.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

LOL Oh yeah I forgot about the wind from a passing truck.

Big.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Big.

Makes you sit up in the seat and pull those shoulder belts tighter, that is for sure.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Sway bars are so soft and soft tire pressures ect make it scary above 50-60

 

[baja-chris]

Scariest thing I ever drove on the pavement was my Baja Shops 4-seater. All over the road at any highway speed. Handled great in the dirt.
My older Can Am 4-seater was stable at 70 on the highway, no real issues. I'd expect the Speed UTV to be ok and better than most UTV's on the highway due to its suspension design. I can't wait to rip some Baja trails and race tracks in it. Hopefully this winter? BTW, that's where you might bump into the 85mph limiter.

 

[outboard_256]

When my dirt bike was setup for 103 mph I would hit top speed on dry lake beds, fire roads, sand washes, and open desert where you could see far enough and flat. If you have the skill you should be able to hit top speed in a sxs in those same area's. So it will be possible to hit the speed limiter with the right driver and area. On a dry lake bed almost anyone could do it.

 

[HCP3]

Everyone is getting along this morning. Weird.

 

[240Hallett]

Everyone is getting along this morning. Weird.

It’s early…

 

[EPL]

Everyone is getting along this morning. Weird.

LOF hasn't had his 3rd cup of coffee yet !!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

LOL hasn't had his 3rd cup of coffee yet !!

If you were referring to me I don’t drink coffee.

Why would I when I can fill my cup from the river of tears from the Speed trolls that can never get it right .

 

[jesco]

Hauling ass in a SXS is a white knucker for sure... This is roughly 90mph (+/-) across the dry lake bed at the Mint 400. At that speed the car packs air (at least my car does) and starts to go wherever the f@ck it wants!!! You let off the gas fast and you aren't prepared it unpacks and hooks to whichever way you are fighting.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Hauling ass in a SXS is a white knucker for sure... This is roughly 90mph (+/-) across the dry lake bed at the Mint 400. At that speed the car packs air (at least my car does) and starts to go wherever the f@ck it wants!!! You let off the gas fast and you aren't prepared it unpacks and hooks to whichever way you are fighting. View attachment 1148934

They are just fast kites

 

[rivermobster]

I see someone is following along.

Anyone who thinks they are going to make 5 of these a week in perpetuity is high on something other than life.

Going up for sale in a couple hours…

View attachment 1148316

Right outa the 2FF playbook.

Well done!














All kidding aside...

I wish I could buy this off you.

 

[PaPaG]

OK another question, what is the difference in performance, speed, hp etc between the two keys?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

OK another question, what is the difference in performance, speed, hp etc between the two keys?

230 HP stock, the highest currently offered in the SXS industry. Up to 300HP with e85 on the Speed key, depending on ethanol content.

There are exactly 0 other SXS on the market with flex fuel capability. It will cost you about $10K to get 300HP out of a Can Am or a Turbo RZR. It will cost you even more to get there with a Pro R.

 

[PaPaG]

230 HP stock, the highest currently offered in the SXS industry. Up to 300HP with e85 on the Speed key, depending on ethanol content.

There are exactly 0 other SXS on the market with flex fuel capability. It will cost you about $10K to get 300HP out of a Can Am or a Turbo RZR. It will cost you even more to get there with a Pro R.

So really comparable without the speed key then when used it greatly surpasses all the others. With that kind of gains (70HP) Will be very interesting to see the reliability of the Speed key version don't you think?

 

[JLG614]

So really comparable without the speed key then when used it greatly surpasses all the others. With that kind of gains (70HP) Will be very interesting to see the reliability of the Speed key version don't you think?

completely agree and I'm assuming thats why the speed key voids the warranty. Kinda funny to think about. Here's a brand new car with full warranty but if you want to go balls to the walls with our special key you get no warranty, good luck. lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So really comparable without the speed key then when used it greatly surpasses all the others. With that kind of gains (70HP) Will be very interesting to see the reliability of the Speed key version don't you think?

Yes, the car has drivetrain torque limiters and the belt is a fuse for the drivetrain as well. They claim the engine can make around 400 HP in a race trim, with less reliability.

But the reliability will be the wildcard for sure. The engine has been out for 3 years now.

Honestly I don’t plan on using my Speed Key during the warranty period. There is no E85 in Havasu or near me anyway so the only benefit is the speed governor removal. The additional warranty covers Speed key use though.

 

[702sandman]

Yes, the car has drivetrain torque limiters and the belt is a fuse for the drivetrain as well. They claim the engine can make around 400 HP in a race trim, with less reliability.

But the reliability will be the wildcard for sure. The engine has been out for 3 years now.

Honestly I don’t plan on using my Speed Key during the warranty period. There is no E85 in Havasu or near me anyway so the only benefit is the speed governor removal. The additional warranty covers Speed key use though.

What cars have these motors been run in for 3 years ? I thought they were new to speed ?

 

[dirtslinger2]

What cars have these motors been run in for 3 years ? I thought they were new to speed ?

He didn't say it's been in a car, the motor has been developed and been dynoed and run for 3 years.

That being said, they have been in the test mules for at least a couple years now.

 

[Bigbore500r]

They do OK on the road. At 50 they are nice, you just want to leave yourself some space. They track straight and run nice and smooth. If you had to do an evasive maneuver, you may lose control if you drive it like you would a car. There is no ABS, and the brakes are small. If you drifted off the shoulder like on the 95, it may dig right into the dirt. It is not a car, you can't drive it as if it is one. Especially if you don't have a wind shield, you'll get pelted with road debris on the highway at a normal following distance.

I'm not touting Speed here, I'm touting race car design and geometry, but the Speed UTV has a far lower roll center and lower center of gravity than a Polaris or Can Am because of the suspension design. Both of these things make it less likely to flip over.

I can tell you that a rzr on a hard packed semi-paved road at 60 flips very nicely........

 

[EmpirE231]

 

[EmpirE231]

Has anyone gone through the process of insuring one of these? wondering if the insurance companies have any info on these yet in order to rate them? Just checked with foremost and don't see anything near speed or speed UTV etc listed as a manufacturer.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Has anyone gone through the process of insuring one of these? wondering if the insurance companies have any info on these yet in order to rate them? Just checked with foremost and don't see anything near speed or speed UTV etc listed as a manufacturer.

I would imagine the finance partner Speed is working with has an insurance option.

 

[702sandman]

He didn't say it's been in a car, the motor has been developed and been dynoed and run for 3 years.

That being said, they have been in the test mules for at least a couple years now.

I thought Robbie said they were re tooling something recently due to a heat issue ? I thought these were fully production motors already but still tweaking them doesn’t sound to reliable yet or tested by the public The consumer seems to be the best testers lol foot to the floor and no lift

 

[dirtslinger2]

I thought Robbie said they were re tooling something recently due to a heat issue ? I thought these were fully production motors already but still tweaking them doesn’t sound to reliable yet or tested by the public The consumer seems to be the best testers lol foot to the floor and no lift

It's a ball check valve in the oil/air separator, the were testing in the whoops in the 117 degrees, and somehow the ball valve got stuck, so they retooled the piece so that the chamfer in the outlet didn't match the radius of the ball. All of the cars will have the new part,.

Same sort of ball check like a discriminator valve, or roll over ball valve in a fuel cell vent.

 

[pixrthis]

I personally like helmets, I felt weird in a friends fancy sand car at Glamis without one. That said I don’t want the state to tell people who are comfortable without one they have to have one but I think those days may have passed.

 

[PaPaG]

Day 3 of calls, anyone get one yet?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I thought Robbie said they were re tooling something recently due to a heat issue ? I thought these were fully production motors already but still tweaking them doesn’t sound to reliable yet or tested by the public The consumer seems to be the best testers lol foot to the floor and no lift

Like Polaris has any room to talk. They are the kings of bringing a faulty part to market and just issuing a stop sale/stop ride after the consumer shows them that their product is flawed and untested.

 

[dirtslinger2]

Like Polaris has any room to talk. They are the kings of bringing a faulty part to market and just issuing a stop sale/stop ride after the consumer shows them that there product is flawed.

Right,
Just a couple fairly recent examples

Polaris Recalls RZR Recreational Off-Road Vehicles Due to Fire Hazard (Recall Alert)

Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled vehicles and contact a Polaris dealer to schedule a free inspection and repair. The dealer will re-route the battery cable, and if needed, replace it free of charge. Polaris has notified consumers to stop riding the vehicles and is contacting...

www.cpsc.gov

Polaris Recalls RZR Recreational Off-Road Vehicles Due to Fire Hazard (Recall Alert)

Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled vehicles and contact a Polaris dealer to schedule a free inspection and repair. Polaris is notifying dealers and contacting registered owners directly.

www.cpsc.gov

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Right,
Just a couple fairly recent examples

Polaris Recalls RZR Recreational Off-Road Vehicles Due to Fire Hazard (Recall Alert)

Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled vehicles and contact a Polaris dealer to schedule a free inspection and repair. The dealer will re-route the battery cable, and if needed, replace it free of charge. Polaris has notified consumers to stop riding the vehicles and is contacting...

www.cpsc.gov

Polaris Recalls RZR Recreational Off-Road Vehicles Due to Fire Hazard (Recall Alert)

Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled vehicles and contact a Polaris dealer to schedule a free inspection and repair. Polaris is notifying dealers and contacting registered owners directly.

www.cpsc.gov

Remember when Carl made those comments about the Pro R..

 

[702sandman]

Like Polaris has any room to talk. They are the kings of bringing a faulty part to market and just issuing a stop sale/stop ride after the consumer shows them that their product is flawed and untested.

Exactly my point. When you say they have been out for 3 years now, that truly doesn’t mean anything until it’s in the consumers hand and you start finding some areas of concern or failures no matter how hard you test in pre production. Every one screams On the boards when we have a failure so all I’m saying is hold on to your panties because what goes around comes around

 

[dirtslinger2]

Exactly my point. When you say they have been out for 3 years now, that truly doesn’t mean anything until it’s in the consumers hand and you start finding some areas of concern or failures no matter how hard you test in pre production. Every one screams On the boards when we have a failure so all I’m saying is hold on to your panties because what goes around comes around

Not screaming at all, and I wouldn't be suprised if there are any recalls or issues with a new car.

Now, I will scream about you guys riding your bikes on the upper walk path in Redondo Beach though, LOL

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Exactly my point. When you say they have been out for 3 years now, that truly doesn’t mean anything until it’s in the consumers hand and you start finding some areas of concern or failures no matter how hard you test in pre production. Every one screams On the boards when we have a failure so all I’m saying is hold on to your panties because what goes around comes around

I wasn’t the one that said the car wouldn’t be with without faults. I said I got the car at a steep discount to deal with them .

Polaris just ships shit they know is going to fail, or they are just that inept at design and testing. When there is a stop sale for a car a month or 2 after it come out because it catches fire, or the clutch explodes, those are the only 2 options, or the third is that their QC is crap.

If the car has the same quality or better of any Polaris debut, it will be a success .

I can’t wait for the hypocrisy of the screaming when a Speed UTV breaks because you said it was in bad taste and a dick move when Carl did it.

 

[ZSTIV]

Day 3 of calls, anyone get one yet?

There has been some people that have posted about it already on FB.

 

[PaPaG]

What did the calls say? delivery dates or just updates and info?

 

[EarpRider]

Not in a tippy SXS..

What did the calls say? delivery dates or just updates and info?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Omg the lawsuits!! It might be longer than 30 days .. they will just fund the loan and/or ask for payment closer to pickup date.

 

[riverroyal]

Soooooo. The calls mean nothing. Let us know when it funds. Obviously not in 30 days For the first round of 50. That means October at best for the first round
soooo, if your number is over 1000 you will get it about the end of desert season.
that’s the rumor I saw

 

[Singleton]

Omg the lawsuits!! It might be longer than 30 days .. they will just fund the loan and/or ask for payment closer to pickup date.

If delivery is outside 30 days, the loan will need to be reapproved and updated. Easy process, but flags the loan within the risk department. If the loan funds without the car being delivered and the purchaser sings the documents saying he took delivery that is fraud. Most financial institutions audit loan documents quarterly and for any new manufacture it is even more frequent. The bank will also do DMV registration verifications, if multiple loans have to be reprocessed due to delivery outside that 30 day window.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

If delivery is outside 30 days, the loan will need to be reapproved and updated. Easy process, but flags the loan within the risk department. If the loan funds without the car being delivered and the purchaser sings the documents saying he took delivery that is fraud. Most financial institutions audit loan documents quarterly and for any new manufacture it is even more frequent. The bank will also do DMV registration verifications, if multiple loans have to be reprocessed due to delivery outside that 30 day window.

That has happened all the time for the last year or so for vehicles.

 

[Racer56]

Yes, the car has drivetrain torque limiters and the belt is a fuse for the drivetrain as well. They claim the engine can make around 400 HP in a race trim, with less reliability.

But the reliability will be the wildcard for sure. The engine has been out for 3 years now.

Honestly I don’t plan on using my Speed Key during the warranty period. There is no E85 in Havasu or near me anyway so the only benefit is the speed governor removal. The additional warranty covers Speed key use though.

Lake Havasu, AZ E85 Gas Station Locations
Terrible Herbst, 1040 Acoma Blvd. S, Lake Havasu, AZ 86406

 

[Racer56]

Hauling ass in a SXS is a white knucker for sure... This is roughly 90mph (+/-) across the dry lake bed at the Mint 400. At that speed the car packs air (at least my car does) and starts to go wherever the f@ck it wants!!! You let off the gas fast and you aren't prepared it unpacks and hooks to whichever way you are fighting. View attachment 1148934

You should try 115 across a lake bed in Mexico with random spectators in a 10 car. Sketchy as FUK!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Lake Havasu, AZ E85 Gas Station Locations
Terrible Herbst, 1040 Acoma Blvd. S, Lake Havasu, AZ 86406

Well this just got interesting.

 

[attitude]

Well this just got interesting.

I thought I read they no longer sell it?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I thought I read they no longer sell it?

I’ll go look next time I’m in town. I had also heard is was not available.

 

[Racer56]

I’ll go look next time I’m in town. I had also heard is was not available.

I would bet at some point once there are enough speed car's delivered in Havasu, Speed will make sure that E85 is available in town.

 

[riverroyal]

Well this just got interesting.

Let’s do it! I will drink all that beer you owe me except. ‘Hood me beer I’m grabbing my helmet’
Then I will take the ride at 300 hp

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I would bet at some point once there are enough speed car's delivered in Havasu, Speed will make sure that E85 is available in town.

If not the dealer will sell 5 gallon jugs of VP C85..

 

[JFMFG]

So I got my phone call today. We have car #26 I will pick up in havasu September 17th.