Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[JayBreww]

Which time. If you go back to the beginning it was may, then June, then September for ssss the Halloween then thanksgiving

You also had RD say December 2021 he would have his by February 2022, someone took the bet, RD never accepted the bet, and here we are.
I say neither Dave or LOF will get there car by February 2023.

 

[DLC]

Amazing this thread is still going. Should have been locked a long time ago

Noooo

I’ll just start another thread!!!

 

[Bails]

You also had RD say December 2021 he would have his by February 2022, someone took the bet, RD never accepted the bet, and here we are.
I say neither Dave or LOF will get there car by February 2023.

I told LOF he can give me a ride in his new Speed car in January, three weeks ago. Today, I'm thinking March.

 

[RogerThat99]

I haven't read this whole thread. Was t there supposed to be the first however many delivered before the Havasu Sand Sports show?

 

[Bpracing1127]

I haven't read this whole thread. Was t there supposed to be the first however many delivered before the Havasu Sand Sports show?

Well it was ssss, then Halloween, now thanksgiving.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Do you not read what you post. You just typed it.


Simple accounting will tell you the loss on the first 1000 car will be JE’d into a marketing expense. That is how the accounting works. If a cars loss is being booked as a marketing expense that equals a negative margin.

Once again.. we don’t know the margin on the cars, or the accessories for those cars, do we?

You don’t know if they are net negative margin or not, neither do I. We also don’t know what they allocated for their “marketing budget” to begin with.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I haven't read this whole thread. Was t there supposed to be the first however many delivered before the Havasu Sand Sports show?

No they did not get their EPA cert until a month ago and are still waiting for CARB. Cars could not have even been delivered in the US without EPA cert, and nothing not a Polaris, Can Am Speed or anything else could be delivered at SSSS anyway.

They claimed they may try to do that, and then backed off that claim about a month before.

 

[riverroyal]

So where are the cars? Im mean REALLY, where are the current cars ready to ship the minute this CARB shit runs it course. Legit question, mex, china, containers off shore, texas Sand berdo, hastings?
Really, where are they
Not the 10 running around, the actual zero miles, brand new units. Completed, not in pieces.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So where are the cars? Im mean REALLY, where are the current cars ready to ship the minute this CARB shit runs it course. Legit question, mex, china, containers off shore, texas Sand berdo, hastings?
Really, where are they
Not the 10 running around, the actual zero miles, brand new units. Completed, not in pieces.

Ask them?

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Because they can be concerned with whatever they want to be concerned with. Maybe they are future/potential buyers?

Why are you more concerned about other people being concerned than they are actually concerned?

Keep up with the times man.... The "official un-official spokesman" of speed cars has established that absolutely no one with a deposit gives a flying fuck how late the delivery may be, what year it may be, what the final product may be, or hell if they ever see the car or their money again...because it was "nothing." No one with money on the line is complaining, everything is just perfect. Everyone who voices any concerns is nothing more than a "hater" and just jealous they didn't jump in on the multi year "zero interest loan deposit" program and is missing out with FOMO. You cannot ever question his holiness the creator of the all powerful amazing chinese made sxs, no concerns are legitimate. If you raise any concerns at all you will be silenced by a an onslaught of verbal (text) diarrhea attacks and possibly personal insults... You shall sit like an obedient democrat on the sidelines and STFU while this awesome piece of Chinese made machinery which has impeccable graphics, design, welds, etc is created...none of which is doubted by anyone who has seen videos, or pictures showing otherwise...those are lies. Don't worry that economic conditions have shifted etc etc etc. Everything is fine...all fine. Trust the process, doubt is not allowed.

 

[riverroyal]

Ask them?

I think I stumped you

 

[Canuck 1]

So where are the cars? Im mean REALLY, where are the current cars ready to ship the minute this CARB shit runs it course. Legit question, mex, china, containers off shore, texas Sand berdo, hastings?
Really, where are they
Not the 10 running around, the actual zero miles, brand new units. Completed, not in pieces.

fantasy Island....

 

[riverroyal]

We are all enjoying this topic. It’s been entertaining.
But seriously, where are they? Did I miss something from the china machining engine parts video to now?
There has to be 100 plus units ready to ship ‘weeks or months’ that are completed.
Right? Why the secrecy? One would speculate they simply don’t exist. If they do why would this not be shared with the utv community?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I think I stumped you

I’ve given you the same answer 20 times. I don’t care. Call me when I can pick up the car. That is literally the only thing that matters.

I don’t care about the journey it takes to get there. I’m not a consultant to figure out their logistics or assembly lines. I’m not here to dictate how or when it gets built. What continent it is built on and if it is built by a person or a machine… who cares.

 

[HNL2LHC]

…isn’t it ironic…..don’t you think? That as slow as the speed car is through production a soon to be owner can get a speeding ticket….

Nevada Speeding Tickets - school me

Ok I got a speeding ticket in Nevada. How does traffic school work? How does one contest a Nevada ticket? How do “points” work in Nevada?

www.riverdavesplace.com

That is all….carry on.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Keep up with the times man.... The "official un-official spokesman" of speed cars has established that absolutely no one with a deposit gives a flying fuck how late the delivery may be, what year it may be, what the final product may be, or hell if they ever see the car or their money again...because it was "nothing." No one with money on the line is complaining, everything is just perfect. Everyone who voices any concerns is nothing more than a "hater" and just jealous they didn't jump in on the multi year "zero interest loan deposit" program and is missing out with FOMO. You cannot ever question his holiness the creator of the all powerful amazing chinese made sxs, no concerns are legitimate. If you raise any concerns at all you will be silenced by a an onslaught of verbal (text) diarrhea attacks and possibly personal insults... You shall sit like an obedient democrat on the sidelines and STFU while this awesome piece of Chinese made machinery which has impeccable graphics, design, welds, etc is created...none of which is doubted by anyone who has seen videos, or pictures showing otherwise...those are lies. Don't worry that economic conditions have shifted etc etc etc. Everything is fine...all fine. Trust the process, doubt is not allowed.

We got another one ready to pop

 

[Singleton]

Once again.. we don’t know the margin on the cars, or the accessories for those cars, do we?

You don’t know if they are net negative margin or not, neither do I. We also don’t know what they allocated for their “marketing budget” to begin with.

Spin it how you want.
Your definition of loss leaders must be very unique and different then what I learned getting my BS in Accounting and having my CPA (inactive).

AICPA loss leader definition is a pricing practice of selling a small number of products either at or below cost. This is done on the assumption that buyers will purchase other products at the same time that are considerably more profitable. The resulting combined sale transaction is assumed (or hoped) to be profitable.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Spin it how you want.
Your definition of loss leaders must be very unique and different then what I learned getting my BS in Accounting and having my CPA (inactive).

AICPA loss leader definition is a pricing practice of selling a small number of products either at or below cost. This is done on the assumption that buyers will purchase other products at the same time that are considerably more profitable. The resulting combined sale transaction is assumed (or hoped) to be profitable.

Read that last sentence.

You are right, people didn’t spend thousands to tens of thousands in upgrades on most of these cars early cars. Upgrades that are highly profitable for Speed.

Keep that spin going.

 

[Mr. C]

Then here is the question on one ever answers.

Why is everyone else more concerned about it than the several people here with actual cars?

I’m not concerned at all. Just a smart ass.
But I am curious…. Who here “actually” has a car?

 

[Singleton]

Read that last sentence.

You are right, people didn’t spend thousands to tens of thousands in upgrades on most of these cars early cars. Upgrades that are highly profitable for Speed.

Keep that spin going.

I started talking profit margin on the car itself. Decided to copy / paste the actual definition to be accurate. Factor in accessories and maybe the overall company profit margin moves positive, yet I stand by my statement. A company can not last if its main sku has a negative profit margin.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I started talking profit margin on the car itself. Decided to copy / paste the actual definition to be accurate. Factor in accessories and maybe the overall company profit margin moves positive, yet I stand by my statement. A company can not last if its main sku has a negative profit margin.

I started talking profit margin on the car itself. Decided to copy / paste the actual definition to be accurate. Factor in accessories and maybe the overall company profit margin moves positive, yet I stand by my statement. A company can not last if its main sku has a negative profit margin.

Agreed.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Speed Utv | RideNow Tri-Cities | Kennewick Washington

RideNow Tri-Cities is a Powersport dealer in Kennewick, WA, featuring new and used ATVs, Side x Sides, Watercraft and Motorcycles. We offer sales, parts, service, and financing near Richland, Benton City, Finley, and Sagemoor.

www.ridenowtricities.com

IDK If they are listed on the other locations sites...but Ride now has them listed online.

 

[EarpRider]

Ask them?

Come on.... you know Robby won't answer that question, he won't even come close to entertaining that question.

 

[Singleton]

Speed Utv | RideNow Tri-Cities | Kennewick Washington

RideNow Tri-Cities is a Powersport dealer in Kennewick, WA, featuring new and used ATVs, Side x Sides, Watercraft and Motorcycles. We offer sales, parts, service, and financing near Richland, Benton City, Finley, and Sagemoor.

www.ridenowtricities.com

IDK If they are listed on the other locations sites...but Ride now has them listed online.

Cheaper then speed utv deposit collection site by almost 10k MSRP. Selling below MSRP

 

[riverroyal]

I’ve given you the same answer 20 times. I don’t care. Call me when I can pick up the car. That is literally the only thing that matters.

I don’t care about the journey it takes to get there. I’m not a consultant to figure out their logistics or assembly lines. I’m not here to dictate how or when it gets built. What continent it is built on and if it is built by a person or a machine… who cares.

i wasnt asking you. It was just a question for anyone. You could have not replied.
So you dont know, thats fine. maybe someone else does.

 

[Singleton]

i wasnt asking you. It was just a question for anyone. You could have not replied.
So you dont know, thats fine. maybe someone else does.

I have wondered the same thing. A pic of all the units parked in a warehouse with a statement pending oil line fix and CARB certifications and these will be ready for delivery would limit some of the negative posts IMO. The piece meal pics IMO actually causes more ‘what if type of questions.’ At least it did when I was a practicing CFE.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Cheaper then speed utv deposit collection site by almost 10k MSRP. Selling below MSRP

Have fun getting that outdated price out of them

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

i wasnt asking you. It was just a question for anyone. You could have not replied.
So you dont know, thats fine. maybe someone else does.

No one here knows.

 

[Singleton]

Have fun trying to get that price out of them.

Look at the prices on RideNow vs speed.
RideNow screen shot vs speed. Huge difference.
Have to read the fine print but the MSRP on ride sites are lower then speeds site.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Come on.... you know Robby won't answer that question, he won't even come close to entertaining that question.

I know. What does he stand to gain by answering it?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Look at the prices on RideNow vs speed.
RideNow screen shot vs speed. Huge difference.
Have to read the fine print but the MSRP on ride sites are lower then speeds site.

I see it. Those are a year + old prices. Call and see if they will honor it.. my guess is you’ll get hit with a $8k price increase, plus whatever fees they normally dish out.

 

[JB in so cal]

Speed cars don't speed to customers.Coulda called them EVENTUALLY CARS.

 

[Ziggy]

This thread is like watching

 

[riverroyal]

No one here knows.

Noted.
And wtf.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

I see it. Those are a year + old prices. Call and see if they will honor it.. my guess is you’ll get hit with a $8k price increase, plus whatever fees they normally dish out.

I'm doing a deal with them right now on something else... I have no problem with asking the rep I've been dealing with tomorrow about it.. I'll play nice and dumb since I don't have skin in the game... There has been no added markup or any other bullshit on my deal.. I was pretty up front with them about what I would and wouldn't do. Otherwise I'll just buy somewhere else. $200 doc fee but I'm pushing for accessory credit for that.

 

[DLC]

I told LOF he can give me a ride in his new Speed car in January, three weeks ago. Today, I'm thinking March.

He doesn’t need a Speed car he has a turbo rzr…..

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

i wasnt asking you. It was just a question for anyone. You could have not replied.
So you dont know, thats fine. maybe someone else does.

Lack of knowledge has seldom slowed down or stopped an LOF response.

 

[BIGRED9158]

Robbie better hurry up and get these cars out they are inducing the wife on Monday morning for the baby

 

[DwatsPdx]

Someone posted this picture of the Havasu building on FB over the weekend. It looks like they still have a lot of work to do.

 

[WhatExit?]

I’ve given you the same answer 20 times. I don’t care. Call me when I can pick up the car. That is literally the only thing that matters.

I don’t care about the journey it takes to get there. I’m not a consultant to figure out their logistics or assembly lines. I’m not here to dictate how or when it gets built. What continent it is built on and if it is built by a person or a machine… who cares.

 

[Blackmagic94]

You can’t be?

Show me a 225 HP Pro R I can buy for less than $32k.

Show me a 180 HP Turbo R I can buy for less than $32k.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

View attachment 1172752

We already discussed that one yesterday.

And there will be an ADM, assembly fees, doc fees, etc. plus it’s still down 50 HP.

 

[MPHSystems]

And I thought this took a long time to get in my garage

https://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index.php?/forums/topic/176-my-air-cooled-turbo-project-no-more-e85-just-race-fuel/

 

[outboard_256]

And I thought this took a long time to get in my garage

https://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index.php?/forums/topic/176-my-air-cooled-turbo-project-no-more-e85-just-race-fuel/

Looking good.

 

[BIGRED9158]

 

[Backlash]

^^^^

$92K!!!! WAFJ!!!!

 

[Ace in the Hole]

^^^^

$92K!!!! WAFJ!!!!

They must think they have the first speed car off the line or something

People are fucking nuts.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

They will probably get $85K for it. People here have $60K+ into their 5 year old Can Ams and a Pro R costs about $20K more than a Can Am from 5 years ago.


Remember.. the Speed UTV is dropping in value every day .

 

[MK1MOD0]

Was out at the river this past weekend. There were 4 brand new Pro R’s on the block. 35ish OTD seems to be the going price.

 

[counterpart7]

Just to thread jack, because this thread is already stupid..

$75k for a new UTV or $75-100k for a V8/Sequential sand car?

Is the answer different for the guys that go to the dunes 96.9% of the time?