Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[LargeOrangeFont]

Sell your spot. Before it goes below what you paid. Just sayin

You think the cars will never be delivered, I think they will.

I’ve burned more on weekend vacations in Vegas than I have into this deal.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Again let’s be realistic, it’s not going to be 5 years.
In 5 years SXS prices will be eclipsing $50k for top line cars.

At the rate we are going, there may not be fuel for them, or they will need to be retrofitted as fast assault vehicles.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I usually move around my schedule our ask my guys to work OT to please the customer and make it happen. Once a customer calls it’s not long before their product goes out. I also done over promise. I’m upfront and don’t beat around the bush.

That is great. I wish they would have been more upfront about their challenges and timelines, but no one ever is in these situations, again look at Tesla.

At the end of the day, the updates are better than no updates at all.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

At the rate we are going, there may not be fuel for them, or they will need to be retrofitted as fast assault vehicles.

If that is true the value just went up… why buy a UTV when you can buy a civilian FAV?

 

[Dirtbag]

How did we go from full cars with doors and cages to just some bare chassis with suspension
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reverse engineering!

 

[LuauLounge]

Again let’s be realistic, it’s not going to be 5 years. It’s not even going to be one year. It is weeks to months before we see cars.

If he came out and said 5 more years, everyone waiting with no car should go buy a car and use it for 5 years.

As for me I don’t care as long as I’m price locked. In 5 years SXS prices will be eclipsing $50k for top line cars. This risk is worth it to me for the price. If it is not worth it to someone else, simply don’t buy into one.

What does being locked into a price really mean? What stops Speed from adjusting the price at delivery time? If you say I have a contract, there are thousands of attorneys available that say you do or you don't. That only depends on who is writing the check.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What does being locked into a price really mean? What stops Speed from adjusting the price at delivery time? If you say I have a contract, there are thousands of attorneys available that say you do or you don't. That only depends on who is writing the check.

I’ve already been invoiced and signed the agreement on options and price. Payment is not due until delivery is imminent.

So there is that. There will be a shit show of epic proportions if they try to adjust the pricing on everyone that has already signed their invoices.

They have said repeatedly pricing will not be changed on the early adopters.

 

[WhatExit?]

Maybe those "locked into a (low) price" will have to wait (and wait and wait) while other, more profitable customers don't have to wait. Oh, that would never happen, especially not with a startup that has no product for sale

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Maybe those "locked into a (low) price" will have to wait (and wait and wait) while other, more profitable customers don't have to wait. Oh, that would never happen, especially not with a startup that has no product for sale

Lol last night no one was getting cars ever and the whole thing was gonna fail .

Aside from the people getting early CA deliveries, they are being delivered in order.

 

[EmpirE231]

Thanksgiving is next week... anyone getting a car delivered by then?

 

[WhatExit?]

Lol last night no one was getting cars ever and the whole thing was gonna fail .

Aside from the people getting early CA deliveries, they are being delivered in order.

"Delivered in order" noted

The truth is the next car that is "delivered in order" will be the FIRST

 

[Bpracing1127]

there is an entry of speed utv in this years baja 1000 that starts friday. no clue if they are racing or not. its not robby/todd/or max driving.


another lie by speed that they were racing in baja1000


hmmm

 

[MonkeyButt70]

It’s pretty simple.. if he rushed these to delivery to appease those that have 0 skin in the game, he’d be in a world of hurt, and sleeping even less.

I think what really happened was he had a simple idea of sticking it to the current UTV builders to saying we can build a few hundred of Speed UTV racers for the true enthusiasts. Once word got out that he was building these, it spread like wildfire not realizing that there were thousands of people wanting them. Thus begun the runaway train, causing RG and team to scramble to fulfill the need and why we have witnessed so many changes from being built here and there to its final place Hisun which ultimately saved RGs ass. His lack of experience in this situation has shown greatly, but you have to give him credit for sticking with it. There will be many teething pains for early adopters, but in the end once these cars mature they will be a great addition to the choice of consumers.

 

[riverroyal]

You think the cars will never be delivered, I think they will.

I’ve burned more on weekend vacations in Vegas than I have into this deal.

I think they will be delivered. But I think the valve will drop. I think it already has. I think its time to get out.
Wheres the evidence these will be delivered in weeks or months?

 

[Bpracing1127]

I think they will be delivered. But I think the valve will drop. I think it already has. I think its time to get out.
Wheres the evidence these will be delivered in weeks or months?

Speeds word duh!!!! They have been right with dates to this point right……

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I think they will be delivered. But I think the valve will drop. I think it already has. I think its time to get out.
Wheres the evidence these will be delivered in weeks or months?

How is the value of a 300HP SXS with a warranty going to drop $13k?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I think what really happened was he had a simple idea of sticking it to the current UTV builders to saying we can build a few hundred of Speed UTV racers for the true enthusiasts. Once word got out that he was building these, it spread like wildfire not realizing that there were thousands of people wanting them. Thus begun the runaway train, causing RG and team to scramble to fulfill the need and why we have witnessed so many changes from being built here and there to its final place Hisun which ultimately saved RGs ass. His lack of experience in this situation has shown greatly, but you have to give him credit for sticking with it. There will be many teething pains for early adopters, but in the end once these cars mature they will be a great addition to the choice of consumers.

This is exactly what happened. Demand grew exponentially and so did the product. This was originally going to be a stretched WildcatXX with a turbo Yamaha engine.

I dont know why it is so hard for people to grasp that the project and product drastically changed from what was promised in 2019 to now. And we had a pandemic in the middle of it. The car they have today is light years better than the original proof of concept from 2019.

There are going to be teething problems. For the price I and others believe dealing with them is worth it.

 

[riverroyal]

How is the value of a 300HP SXS with a warranty going to drop $13k?

you cant be serious?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

"Delivered in order" noted

The truth is the next car that is "delivered in order" will be the FIRST

See I don’t even need to point out you are incorrect, anymore Dan, you do it for me.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

you cant be serious?

You can’t be?

Show me a 225 HP Pro R I can buy for less than $32k.

Show me a 180 HP Turbo R I can buy for less than $32k.

 

[BIGRED9158]

You can’t be?

Show me a 225 HP Pro R I can buy for less than $32k.

Show me a 180 HP Turbo R I can buy for less than $32k.

I am going to have to agree with you on this statement but also these speed cars could come out and be the worst car on the market causing the value to drop it’s really hard to say how these are going to do on the market until they are in the public hands

 

[BingerFang]

You can’t be?

Show me a 225 HP Pro R I can buy for less than $32k.

Show me a 180 HP Turbo R I can buy for less than $32k.

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[Bpracing1127]

If we are going off MSRP the turbo R is 28k

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I am going to have to agree with you on this statement but also these speed cars could come out and be the worst car on the market causing the value to drop it’s really hard to say how these are going to do on the market until they are in the public hands

I agree and the saying is don’t gamble with money you aren’t willing to lose.

However the bar is so low, if the drivetrain doesn’t have major issues, the car is going to be at least on par with everything else on the market.

Even if it needed $2k of work like a Can Am does to make it live long term the 300HP alone will always be a huge selling point.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

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LOL plus ADMs, doc fees, assembly fees, and it’s down 50 HP. You won’t get out the door for under $40k.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

If we are going off MSRP the turbo R is 28k

That is for a 2 seater…

 

[BIGRED9158]

I agree and the saying is don’t gamble with money you aren’t willing to lose.

However the bar is so low, if the drivetrain doesn’t have major issues, the car is going to be at least on par with everything else on the market.

Even if it needed $2k of work like a Can Am does to make it live long term the 300HP alone will always be a huge selling point.

Now wait a minute why would it even need 2k of work like a can am I thought this was supposed to be a turn key car out of the box isn’t that what you have been saying this whole time??,

 

[Badchoices03]

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Ride Now has ridiculous ADM fees....I just contacted them about a YZ65 and they had a $1600 ADM on it...lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Now wait a minute why would it even need 2k of work like a can am I thought this was supposed to be a turn key car out of the box isn’t that what you have been saying this whole time??,

Exactly, why would it? I said “Even if it did”.

 

[BingerFang]

Ride Now has ridiculous ADM fees....I just contacted them about a YZ65 and they had a $1600 ADM on it...lol

Lol, I know. LOF said find him one for less than 32k and I did. He didn’t clarify it had to be the OTD price, hand delivered to his home in Utah, with a warm Carl’s Jr cheeseburger and a large Dr Pepper. Which is how Robby is delivering the speedy car I guess.

 

[Todd Mohr]

Lol, I know. LOF said find him one for less than 32k and I did. He didn’t clarify it had to be the OTD price, hand delivered to his home in Utah, with a warm Carl’s Jr cheeseburger and a large Dr Pepper. Which is how Robby is delivering the speedy car I guess.

Robby said mine is coming with a 12 pack of silver bullets

 

[RiverDave]

Maybe those "locked into a (low) price" will have to wait (and wait and wait) while other, more profitable customers don't have to wait. Oh, that would never happen, especially not with a startup that has no product for sale

You know I can get the idea that LOF can be annoying with the non stop arguing... but seriously take a look at the flip side of the coin here.. This is just arguing for the sake of arguing.

RD

 

[BingerFang]

Robby said mine is coming with a 12 pack of silver bullets

Those were illegal in Utah when LOF ordered his car so he was never given that option.

 

[outboard_256]

there is an entry of speed utv in this years baja 1000 that starts friday. no clue if they are racing or not. its not robby/todd/or max driving.


another lie by speed that they were racing in baja1000


hmmm

I believe they said they will have 4 speed UTV's racing this year in baja. Did that change?

 

[Bpracing1127]

I believe they said they will have 4 speed UTV's racing this year in baja. Did that change?

sure did, lol only one "speed utv" entry Pro UTV open #1874. we will see if that holds true

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

sure did, lol only one "speed utv" entry Pro UTV open #1874. we will see if that holds true

That is the only class they can race it in at this point, correct?

 

[Bpracing1127]

That is the only class they can race it in at this point, correct?

That or class 1 or trophy truck (unlimited)

But one guys who is not affiliated with speed is racing so that is interesting

First debut so to speak and Robby/Todd/ max not driving it?

 

[JayBreww]

That or class 1 or trophy truck (unlimited)

But one guys who is not affiliated with speed is racing so that is interesting

First debut so to speak and Robby/Todd/ max not driving it?

Must be the cartel guy from Facebook lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

That or class 1 or trophy truck (unlimited)

But one guys who is not affiliated with speed is racing so that is interesting

First debut so to speak and Robby/Todd/ max not driving it?

They need to get a car out.. does not surprise me if they aren’t racing it this year.

The geniuses here will be whining they are racing not delivering cars if they do race.

 

[buck35]

They need to get a car out.. does not surprise me if they aren’t racing it this year.

The geniuses here will be whining they are racing not delivering cars if they do race.

1 breaks, it's a fluke, a few wouldn't look so good now would it.

 

[pixrthis]

Here’s more fuel on the fire. Does anyone think a stock Speed car looks as cool as some of the bitchen aftermarket builds on other cars?
I know the custom builds are expensive but in my opinion they look insane.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

1 breaks, it's a fluke, a few wouldn't look so good now would it.

Tell that to Po po and Can Am

 

[MK1MOD0]

I personally think it looks pretty bad ass. But, ya know about opinions ...... really, it’s just very subjective.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Here’s more fuel on the fire. Does anyone think a stock Speed car looks as cool as some of the bitchen aftermarket builds on other cars?
I know the custom builds are expensive but in my opinion they look insane.

No it does not look near as good as a custom painted aftermarket builds like this.

They also are not asking $108k for them.

 

[Singleton]

Has any update on CARB been released.
That seems to be holding things up.

Was camping with a desert racing buddy Veterans weekend and he stated a low number CA deposit holder hold RG he has spot XX and it will get ugly if he is skipped (he wants to register in CA).

Not sure I believe it, but if you have a low number deposit and get skipped due to CARB, that could open some liability

 

[Ziggy]

Get your shit right , I never said I wouldn't ever purchase one but I don't purchase things that don't exist ! At this time the only Unicorn am going to invest in is the ones that grand daughter plays with !!

Although I tend to agree with not purchasing a unicorn, I can tell you I had people breaking down my office door to leave me deposits for non-existent cars if any news of a new model BMW was "spy photo'd" in MotorTrend or similar. Human nature to be the first to be seen in one.

 

[evantwheeler]

I think what really happened was he had a simple idea of sticking it to the current UTV builders to saying we can build a few hundred of Speed UTV racers for the true enthusiasts. Once word got out that he was building these, it spread like wildfire not realizing that there were thousands of people wanting them. Thus begun the runaway train, causing RG and team to scramble to fulfill the need and why we have witnessed so many changes from being built here and there to its final place Hisun which ultimately saved RGs ass. His lack of experience in this situation has shown greatly, but you have to give him credit for sticking with it. There will be many teething pains for early adopters, but in the end once these cars mature they will be a great addition to the choice of consumers.

I just cant imagine why he didnt follow through with what your first sentence says. Use off the shelf drivetrain parts and shocks and wheels and seats and on and on. Bolt it up to your custom patented suspension and chassis. He could have 500+ units out in the wild by now. Do it like the sand car builders do to get around CARB & the EPA emissions bullshit. Customer “provides” the engine and Speed just does final assembly. Register as SPCN for the cali folks, im sure its much easier to register in AZ and NV for a custom off road vehicle. They got way too greedy.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I just cant imagine why he didnt follow through with what your first sentence says. Use off the shelf drivetrain parts and shocks and wheels and seats and on and on. Bolt it up to your custom patented suspension and chassis. He could have 500+ units out in the wild by now. Do it like the sand car builders do to get around CARB & the EPA emissions bullshit. Customer “provides” the engine and Speed just does final assembly. Register as SPCN for the cali folks, im sure its much easier to register in AZ and NV for a custom off road vehicle. They got way too greedy.

Because that does not scale, and it does not get to competitive price points. He advertised just that in early 2019 and wanted $77k for a hand build stretched WildcatXX. I don’t think he sold even 1, and those were the basis for the 2019 prototype cars.

That gets him to 500 cars, not 5000.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Although I tend to agree with not purchasing a unicorn, I can tell you I had people breaking down my office door to leave me deposits for non-existent cars if any news of a new model BMW was "spy photo'd" in MotorTrend or similar. Human nature to be the first to be seen in one.

Bingo.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Has any update on CARB been released.
That seems to be holding things up.

Was camping with a desert racing buddy Veterans weekend and he stated a low number CA deposit holder hold RG he has spot XX and it will get ugly if he is skipped (he wants to register in CA).

Not sure I believe it, but if you have a low number deposit and get skipped due to CARB, that could open some liability

I don’t believe that either. That is a CA problem not a Speed problem.