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NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg

"Without that, of course, there is no membership issue to be discussed. We need to ensure that Ukraine prevails, that is the absolute minimum for Ukraine to become a member of the alliance."

"The purpose of NATO, of course, is not to wage war, the purpose of NATO is to prevent war."



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Turn the guns around Ukraine……..
 

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Zelenskyy on stage at the G7 Summit begging for more money to save life's and save the country.

Looks like Japan giving them some money.

Interesting, first time I've seen the media word it that way the "Full scale conflict" started in 22. They are at least partially admitting it started before.

In a twisted way it's funny though, Japan tossing money right after the admission we're helping the "good Nazis", AZOV.
 

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There are rumors that "AZOV" is re-branding currently as the "3rd Separate Assault Brigade". Apparently Azov has gotten to be bad press after Biden approved outfitting them publicly. So, watch the new group...
 

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There are rumors that "AZOV" is re-branding currently as the "3rd Separate Assault Brigade". Apparently Azov has gotten to be bad press after Biden approved outfitting them publicly. So, watch the new group...
That's the M.O. of certain subcontractor's running Job Corps Centers for the DOL.
Get caught, pay a fine, change their name, reacquire the contract, start cooking the books.
Repeat.
 

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So, four Russian ships are vacationing in Cuba now. I wonder how long they're going to stay around.
Fox comments the navy would use them ships as practice target. Pretty stupid if you ask me.:rolleyes: Even if all four ships are taken out in a conflict, how many people in the coastal areas will be gone if only one missile carries out a nuclear warhead before sunk? ;):eek:

Putin's tiny task force to Cuba is an ego trip, but Russian ships still carry new Zircon missiles​


The 3M22 Zircon, also spelled as Tsirkon (Russian: Циркон, NATO reporting name: SS-N-33) is a Russian scramjet-powered, nuclear-capable hypersonic cruise missile. The Zircon missiles they carry can move almost 7,000 miles per hour at sea level.
 

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So, four Russian ships are vacationing in Cuba now. I wonder how long they're going to stay around.
Fox comments the navy would use them ships as practice target. Pretty stupid if you ask me.:rolleyes: Even if all four ships are taken out in a conflict, how many people in the coastal areas will be gone if only one missile carries out a nuclear warhead before sunk? ;):eek:

Putin's tiny task force to Cuba is an ego trip, but Russian ships still carry new Zircon missiles​


The 3M22 Zircon, also spelled as Tsirkon (Russian: Циркон, NATO reporting name: SS-N-33) is a Russian scramjet-powered, nuclear-capable hypersonic cruise missile. The Zircon missiles they carry can move almost 7,000 miles per hour at sea level.
Hey Joe....FAFO
 

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So, four Russian ships are vacationing in Cuba now. I wonder how long they're going to stay around.
Fox comments the navy would use them ships as practice target. Pretty stupid if you ask me.:rolleyes: Even if all four ships are taken out in a conflict, how many people in the coastal areas will be gone if only one missile carries out a nuclear warhead before sunk? ;):eek:

Putin's tiny task force to Cuba is an ego trip, but Russian ships still carry new Zircon missiles​


The 3M22 Zircon, also spelled as Tsirkon (Russian: Циркон, NATO reporting name: SS-N-33) is a Russian scramjet-powered, nuclear-capable hypersonic cruise missile. The Zircon missiles they carry can move almost 7,000 miles per hour at sea level.
We "officially" sailed in a nuke sub to Guantanamo last week as well. If one is there in sight, I'd assume more are around. Unfortunately, that goes to both sides.

I'm pretty sure the last time Russian nukes were in Cuba was for the same reason...we wanted to put nukes on Russia's porch. Sure seems like history repeating itself.

As we did our missile test off the west coast, Russia launched several from a sub last week. Saber rattling is getting pretty loud.
 

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I doubt Russia would do anything, unless attacked first.
They are having enough trouble beating Ukraine.
Why take on the USA and NATO? Its a guarenteed loss.

Its more of a message to Joe.
Hey, if you give missiles to Ukraine to use to attack Russia,
Then we can give missiles to Cuba to point at you.
 

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I doubt Russia would do anything, unless attacked first.
They are having enough trouble beating Ukraine.
Why take on the USA and NATO? Its a guarenteed loss.

Its more of a message to Joe.
Hey, if you give missiles to Ukraine to use to attack Russia,
Then we can give missiles to Cuba to point at you.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past this administration to attack first, and then claim a retaliation is a primary attack.

Remember, Joe knew the week Russia was going to "invade" eastern Ukraine. He knew because they had given the ok to conduct artillery campaigns by Ukraine the week before.

These bastards don't care about human life, only money. I think some people are ok with it being Russian and Ukrainian lives, but don't see that they only see dollars. When Ukraine folds, they will send in more people to die. To what end? To protect the free democracy that Ukraine represents? To protect NATO? It makes no sense at all, unless you follow the money.
 

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Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past this administration to attack first, and then claim a retaliation is a primary attack.

Remember, Joe knew the week Russia was going to "invade" eastern Ukraine. He knew because they had given the ok to conduct artillery campaigns by Ukraine the week before.

These bastards don't care about human life, only money. I think some people are ok with it being Russian and Ukrainian lives, but don't see that they only see dollars. When Ukraine folds, they will send in more people to die. To what end? To protect the free democracy that Ukraine represents? To protect NATO? It makes no sense at all, unless you follow the money.


PHUCKING POS
 

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The "fires" are spreading. Yesterday in the Czech Republic, an explosion and fire broke out in a warehouse. It just so happens to be that the purpose of that particular building was to store supplies for the temporary NATO training facility, where NATO troops are training Ukrainian conscripted soldiers. Supposedly no fatalities.

Another weird deal happened a couple days ago in Rostov-On-Don. It's in an area of Russia east of Ukraine. It looks like 10-12 ISIS guys tried to take the prison. This prison would be where the AZOV prisoners from Mariupol were taken after '22. It didn't work out quite as planned. They were holding a few guards hostage for a few hours. It ended up with some videos of handcuffed dead guys...they looked dark haired but clean shaven...not the ISIS types I'm used to seeing.

The "peace" offer from Russia currently is asking Ukraine to withdraw from the Donetske and Luhanske regions, and agree not to join NATO. NATO won't agree, so neither will Ukraine.

The maps look like Russia is advancing maybe half to one kilometer a day in some places, and no change in others. Vlad is meeting with Rocket Man currently. US media is saying without NK the Russians can only last 3 days. I find that hard to believe NK can produce that much anything.

Oh, and Pooh Bear made a statement to the effect of "it seems the US is wanting us to invade Taiwan"...
 

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Yesterday, videos showed "Kaliber" cruise missiles flying over Ukraine. Some showed what looked like an air base maybe? Response came this morning, ATACMS missile was fired at a Crimean beach. As in sunbathing, vacation beach, not the naval base. Western media is saying it exploded before impact. Probably true. The easterners are claiming it was a cluster warhead...which would also explode before impact. Some videos on social media showed some wounded. Russia claims 5 fatalities.
 

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Yesterday, videos showed "Kaliber" cruise missiles flying over Ukraine. Some showed what looked like an air base maybe? Response came this morning, ATACMS missile was fired at a Crimean beach. As in sunbathing, vacation beach, not the naval base. Western media is saying it exploded before impact. Probably true. The easterners are claiming it was a cluster warhead...which would also explode before impact. Some videos on social media showed some wounded. Russia claims 5 fatalities.

@monkeyswrench is this a retaliation deal by US/Ukraine? or more shit the media put out? I don't even fucking know who the players are any more..
 

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@monkeyswrench is this a retaliation deal by US/Ukraine? or more shit the media put out? I don't even fucking know who the players are any more..
This is nothing new, so I don't understand why some people are upset about it. I don't believe Ukraine has the capability for targeting and recon, so the US has been painting the targets for over 2 years now. Honestly, the only thing that upsets me is the targeting of civilian areas. For some reason, this made the news over here, but Saturday's Russian strike, I think, seemed to be in retaliation for an artillery strike on apartments in the east. Info on that was posted by a retires US marine in Ukraine. He was also put on the kill list by the CIA backed Ukraine site.

Honestly, it's a miracle we aren't in a full blown war. US, Russian and Wagner mercs were all on the same base in Africa last month, but it seems the soldiers from all three have some respect for each other the leaders don't. It can get real ugly real fast. It really seems the only ones that want a larger war are those in the White House.
 

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This is nothing new, so I don't understand why some people are upset about it. I don't believe Ukraine has the capability for targeting and recon, so the US has been painting the targets for over 2 years now. Honestly, the only thing that upsets me is the targeting of civilian areas. For some reason, this made the news over here, but Saturday's Russian strike, I think, seemed to be in retaliation for an artillery strike on apartments in the east. Info on that was posted by a retires US marine in Ukraine. He was also put on the kill list by the CIA backed Ukraine site.

Honestly, it's a miracle we aren't in a full blown war. US, Russian and Wagner mercs were all on the same base in Africa last month, but it seems the soldiers from all three have some respect for each other the leaders don't. It can get real ugly real fast. It really seems the only ones that want a larger war are those in the White House.

Thank you. 👍
 

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Here's some more for you @sprintcvx . This is also "Trinity Sunday", kind of a big deal, family day, for Orthodox Christians, I'm sure this was not a random day or target. Here's a translation of the Russian Ministry of Defense statement concerning the attack:


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"Today at 12:15, a deliberate terrorist missile strike was carried out on the city of Sevastopol with five American ATACMS operational-tactical missiles equipped with cluster warheads;

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During the missile attack, four American ATACMS missiles were intercepted by air defense forces on duty;

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The detonation of the fifth American missile's fragmentation warhead in the air resulted in numerous casualties among the civilian population of Sevastopol;
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All flight missions for American ATACMS operational-tactical missiles are programmed by American specialists based on their own satellite reconnaissance data;

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Therefore, the responsibility for the deliberate missile strike on the civilians of Sevastopol primarily lies with Washington, which supplied this weapon to Ukraine, as well as with the Kiev regime, from whose territory this strike was launched;

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Such actions will not remain unanswered."
 

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Also...late afternoon "Terrorist Attacks" in Dagestan. Orthodox Church and a Synagogue Attacked by "ISIS" types, dressed in black, bearded, etc... A few civilians, and a couple cops killed...and so were several terrorists. The videos on social media are interesting though. These terrorists were using American rifles. They could be from the Ukraine stockpiles, Afghanistan...or? Seems like some things are happening.
 

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Also...late afternoon "Terrorist Attacks" in Dagestan. Orthodox Church and a Synagogue Attacked by "ISIS" types, dressed in black, bearded, etc... A few civilians, and a couple cops killed...and so were several terrorists. The videos on social media are interesting though. These terrorists were using American rifles. They could be from the Ukraine stockpiles, Afghanistan...or? Seems like some things are happening.
Brandons handlers may want to escalate hostilities so he can start campaigning as a war time president <lol, I can't be replaced now !!!!
 

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Haven't even looked at the news feeds today. I figure nothing good has happened, sad days...
 

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You missed your calling as an analyst Mr. Wrench.
 

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My kid had a bunch of buddies in HS. 3 Arabic brothers, Pops and Uncle owned the little store on the way out of Esco up to Valley Center. Pops was bummed the Bros played Basketball and not soccer. Lol. Good Peeps. Uncle took a bullet to the stomach, taking a robber's gun away. Like I said, good Peeps.
One Brother went to UCSD. My kid was always down there in the Gym with them.
My son, learned Arabic. I always said he should be analyst for a 3 letter agency
!°°! Boy am I glad that ship sailed...
 

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My kid had a bunch of buddies in HS. 3 Arabic brothers, Pops and Uncle owned the little store on the way out of Esco up to Valley Center. Pops was bummed the Bros played Basketball and not soccer. Lol. Good Peeps. Uncle took a bullet to the stomach, taking a robber's gun away. Like I said, good Peeps.
One Brother went to UCSD. My kid was always down there in the Gym with them.
My son, learned Arabic. I always said he should be analyst for a 3 letter agency
!°°! Boy am I glad that ship sailed...
Unfortunately, my daughter is majoring in something along the lines of "global intelligence". Recently though, she's been interning with the Sheriff's office. She's been working cold cases, and said the other day "Local stuff can be more interesting than I thought." And also "I might be able to make a bigger difference in a smaller area." I'd rather her stay closer to home these days, but we will see.
 

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The girl across the street who used to babysit for us became an Explorer Cadet, then joined the Escondido PD. Captain now. You go girls!
 

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Anyone who wants to know EXACTLY what led up to this conflict, this video absolutely clarifies how we (the USA) are the real villain of the story. Really sad state of affairs.

 

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That was so chickenshit in the debate last night with those Moron moderators all holier than thou on Ukraine. Everyone flying the Baby blue and Chickenshit yellow. Pull the plug. Yesterday.
Anyone who wants to know EXACTLY what led up to this conflict, this video absolutely clarifies how we (the USA) are the real villain of the story. Really sad state of affairs.

 

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Sad bit true. When I mentioned anything about the Maidon or AZOV 2 years ago here...on this thread...there were people that said it was all Russian lies. When the Minsk accords were broken, no one spoke of it. 2 years ago when everyone signed and agreed in Istanbul, no mention of it was made in the states. Instead, it was said "Look! Russia's retreating!", when they turned their convoy away from Kiev.

Russia has taken 4 small towns in the past three days. The line is steady across the south, but the north seems to be the push.
 

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Happy Sunday all!
Sergey Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister/delegate to the UN, made a statement that should not go unnoticed. It wasn't mentioned on news around here though.

"Ukrainian missiles don't fly without direct guidance from the US. You will watch the Russian response in the foreseeable future."
Not that I blame them, our administration is trying to start a war at all costs. I think they will succeed.

The other thing that I thought was interesting, Wagner Group released a new video, a recruitment ad really. They seem to do this every few months, but this one was a bit more interesting. They actually mention recruiting being underway for a "long-distance" mission. Well, they have mercs in Africa, and don't consider that "long-distance". Another odd little bit, a few of their videos previous to this have been about the languages spoken by their leadership, and not all need to speak Russian.
 

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This is complete bullshit! I was laid off for 7 weeks due to developers not wanting to start any new building projects until after the election - we all know who should win, but we knew that last time, but it didn’t go as expected, so they’re not taking any chances this time - if Trump wins business booms, if Biden wins we go into a recession. I applied for unemployment and man, all the hoops I have to jump through for $450 a week, meanwhile illegals, Ukrainian refugees, people who have never contributed to the system get all these benefits, but someone like me who plays and pays by the rules, and have been contributing to the system for the last 45 years, I get scrutinized and need to verify, and need to attend workshops on how to get a job. What happened to taking care of our own?
 
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