Possible temporary boat - need value advice

[Gelcoater]

damn.... just like that huh?

I was just getting ready to order my new "Rollbar Daves Place shirt"

BNAG!

 

[SoCalDave]

for the repower, what's the Cost VS MPH gain?

And we're off...

 

[Dana757]

With out reading all the replies I say you’ll hate that boat on Havasu. I grew up around direct drive ski boats. They are great for towing and suck at pretty much everything else. It will beat you like a cheep steak in moderate Havasu chop.

 

[RodnJen]

For a boat that age, with that few hours, it begs the question why a new interior. I would be a little concerned about maintenance, care and storage.

 

[Gramps]

I'm real old school...........we didn't need a $30,000 boat to learn/teach kids to ski this looks like the "ski"

boat we had around 1960

 

[chvynhra]

I would get an older centurion or supreme v drive. They have a true v and ride much better.

 

[Riverbottom]

I think it looks like a good family boat. I think the direct drive is a plus personally. Working on v-drive tournament type boats is a real pain.

 

[SummitKarl]

Dave, I thought you were going Tri toon with triple 400's

 

[GRADS]

With Trump and Dodgers flags on it I'd offer him $5K at best.

 

[oldschool]

I would have sold you a Tigé for half that. If you want a really good tow boat in that same price range look for a Sanger V215.

 

[Echo Lodge]

what are your thoughts? Good boat for the kids? It look for a v drive?

I am a Nautique guy... Old school anyways as I can't see paying 145k for a roll bar boat. I own a v drive and a direct drive.

DD only advantage is a better Slalom skiing wake. The big disadvantage is the engine is in the middle of the boat. The BU you are looking at is a compromise. But as you have already figured out, the playpen is squished into the rear of the boat. If you sit in the same size boat that is a v drive you will better understand how much more room you have.

 

[badluck]

Definitely Covid price. I paid a bit more for an 07 vlx w/80 hours on it in 09. Keep looking for 05-08 vlx on a diamond hull. You can ski/wakeboard and surf it. 07 is the best of the 4yrs but hard to find. Wait a year and the prices will crash

 

[JD D05]

Looks pretty lame

 

[DuttonDave]

Malibu make a great Boat !!!

 

[Backlash]

Sounds like you should have just kept your Dad's Schiada.

 

[WYRD]

Momma always said if ya ain't got nothin nice to say.....so

 

[Backlash]

Oh I'm sure I'll get my hand slapped for that, but I guarantee I'm not the only one who thought it.

 

[RiverDave]

I'm real old school...........we didn't need a $30,000 boat to learn/teach kids to ski this looks like the "ski" View attachment 918082 boat we had around 1960

There was a guy that wrapped a rubber hose around him with a salt water and ice concoction to stay cool going to the river gramps.. LOL. He's got ya beat.

In the meantime if there was some auto button I could push that taught my kids how to do flips on a wakeboard, I'd probably buy it.

RD

 

[RiverDave]

Sounds like you should have just kept your Dad's Schiada.

Those are great ski boats for sure, and they ride better than any tournament boat.. But they aren't full on "tractors" like a tow boat. Plus I'd feel pretty horrible putting antlers on a Schiada.. ?? .

Dave, I thought you were going Tri toon with triple 400's

Well I'm trying to slow the roll on some of that, and be smart with $$ and build a duplex and a house in bullhead.. LOL Besides it was Quads Karl... Quads!

It’s gonna be a $5k production to get a bimini on that thing and the stereo reworked to fit the bimini. Whatever your discount on that would be on that I have no idea.

Other than that, if you like it, but it.

What would you do on the Hallett? Go through the long blocks and add Whipples?

I’d stick with the pontoon plan personally.

I was literally just going to rebuild the motors I have, put heads / cams etc.. and take them from 375 - 450'ish.. It's affordable and my boat already runs pretty damn fast.. with 900HP it'd be really fast if I changed the setup a little (pulled the drives up etc..).

for the repower, what's the Cost VS MPH gain?

Impossible to say at this point, because I'd be changing quite a few things at once. The setup on my boat is Ultra ultra conservative.

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

Keep the Hallett and find a nice used pontoon boat.

I almost sold my 2014 Conquest deck boat for a new roll bar boat just so my kids would have a better platform to ski/wakeboard behind. Everybody told me don’t do it. You won’t be happy with the ride and power blah blah blah. When a potential buyer for the Conquest called me and we talked something he said really sank into my head. “The kids came into your life, You didn’t come into theirs”! and that I was crazy to sell the deck boat and I totally agreed. I learned to ski and boat behind a 1968 Hallett jet boat as a kid growing up and turned out just fine. Half the time I’m forcing the kids to go out, get in the water and ski or wakeboard. So you know what? F it! They will do just fine skiing/wakeboarding/tubing behind the Conquest. Off the market! You will have a hard time finding a better, more versatile boat than a Hallett 270.


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[RiverDave]

Keep the Hallett and find a nice used pontoon boat.

I almost sold my 2014 Conquest deck boat for a new roll bar boat just so my kids would have a better platform to ski/wakeboard behind. Everybody told me don’t do it. You won’t be happy with the ride and power blah blah blah. When a potential buyer for the Conquest called me and we talked something he said really sank into my head. “The kids came into your life, You didn’t come into theirs”! He said I was crazy to sell the deck boat and I totally agreed. I learned to ski and boat behind a 1968 Hallett jet boat as a kid growing up and turned out just fine. Half the time I’m forcing the kids to go out, get in the water and ski or wakeboard. So you know what? F it! The will do just fine! Off the market. You will have a hard time finding a better, more versatile boat than a Hallett 270.


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The only reason my 270 is even potentially on the chopping block is it's very difficult for me to run it with my ankle the way it is.. Can't get off the bow.. Stand up while driving.. no flat surfaces (meaning horizontal, they are all angled to the waterline) to walk on.. If I go run it my ankle is swollen and killing me for 2 days. Being crippled sucks, which is why I was kinda looking for a pontoon or maybe a wake boat where everything is just easy to get in and out of etc.. "temp boat".

RD

 

[CoolCruzin]

Over priced
But the a good question to you is WHY .
WHY that boat .

 

[SKIDMARC]

Nice boat. Price might be a little high due to the upgrades but it looks nice. It’s a good size at 23ft. You might want to keep looking though. You probably can get something similar with a wrap around floor plan. Way more room in side the boat and easier for you to move around with your foot. Also dare I say it...... a mild ballast system so the kids can wakeboard and progress if they wish and dare I say it......waksurf. Kids and adults of all ages love wakesurfing.

Either way you kids are going to love you even more with a boat like that.

to give a comparison my BIL just got a 2008 Tige’ 24 ft with full ballast and all the works for the most part. Super clean. Did have 900 hrs. But was taken care of. Paid 43k.

 

[RiverDave]

Over priced
But the a good question to you is WHY .
WHY that boat .

I liked the interior layout and the updates tower etc.. just seems like it had a lot of upgrades and the price didn’t break the bank.

 

[RiverDave]

Nice boat. Price might be a little high due to the upgrades but it looks nice. It’s a good size at 23ft. You might want to keep looking though. You probably can get something similar with a wrap around floor plan. Way more room in side the boat and easier for you to move around with your foot. Also dare I say it...... a mild ballast system so the kids can wakeboard and progress if they wish and dare I say it......waksurf. Kids and adults of all ages love wakesurfing.

Either way you kids are going to love you even more with a boat like that.

to give a comparison my BIL just got a 2008 Tige’ 24 ft with full ballast and all the works for the most part. Super clean. Did have 900 hrs. But was taken care of. Paid 43k.

My daughter got student of the week and brought it out to the garage to show me.. she said so what are we doing for student of the week?

Isaid I think I’m gonna buy this boat to take you tubing and skiing etc..

She doesn’t skip a beat and says “no thanks I’ll keep the Hallett.”

so there ya go.. lol. Looks like I’m out.
(Well that and everyone tells me to keep lookin).

 

[OLDRAAT]

Dave,
You had a ski boat for the kidos last year didn't you?
What was the outcome, I don't
remember?

 

[boatnam2]

For kids you will not have more fun on any other style boat! Don't let them surf because you will be down getting the next top of the line surf boat because they will have so much fun. They can ride right next to the boat so you can talk to them, teach them, they are going slow so they don't get hurt or scared like a tube. No one can run them over since they are right behind the boat, they can let go of rope and stop when they want. down side, rougher ride, lots of crying from the go fast guys and dock owners.

 

[Wayn-o]

Seeing that the current owner has been been flying the Trump flag on it, my feeling is your dealing with a real genuine American fella that is looking to pass on this yacht to another genuine American to enjoy it with his family as he has done. I think you fit the bill RD

 

[Dan Lorenze]

If I were in your situation I would buy a used Mastercraft, Malibu or Nautique V-drive. Tons of room and they are made to tow all day long with lots of room. You'd probably never sell it until the kids get older. These boats are just so practical for families.

 

[Jay Dub]

I like your thought process here Dave. Wife and I almost bought a Mailbu a few times. Great build quality. Having raised three kids waterboarding, skiing, tubing, I would look for a V-drive surf boat. You will be kicking yourself later. As for this boat, price is a little steep.

 

[King295]

Sounds like you are out but I'll add in my .02 based on owning both a direct drive (Ski Nautique 2001) and a v-drive (Supra Launch 22'). The v-drive really opens up interior space and not just by a little bit. This makes it much easier to move about the boat which would be a requirement with that ankle of yours Dave (I had a similar ankle/tib&fib break about 10 years ago so can speak from experience). With a direct drive you are dancing around the engine compartment whereas a v-drive is like a wide open field.

My Supra' primary duty is cove/beach duty but we slalom, wakeskate, tube and wakeboard frequently. I have built in ballast in my boat and never fill them up, mainly because I've owned open engine low-profile boats and know the headache they can create.

Anyway you slice it they are great family boats to get your little ones into watersports. I don't have kids (yet) but my close friends do and as soon as they see my boat in the water the constant tow requests resume until its back on the trailer.

As far as value, I think there are better deals to be had and at that price point you can get yourself into a v-drive. I wouldn't be so focused on hours and instead on layout/space for the family.

 

[DavAlf04]

Offer 25. If he says pound sand, oh well.

 

[PaPaG]

You can put 100k into a 20k boat does not make it a 120k boat...bottom line is if you want it and are willing to spend the extra dough during these crazy times on a boat that you know is a bit over priced during normal times but possibly not over priced during these nutty times then do it......when it comes time to sell it and prices are back to normal and it does not bother you to lose some money then no biggie at all...do what works for you and your family.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

If you can hold off, I would dump your boats and wait until December. I am already seeing a lot of inventory hitting the market and some price reductions. I think we will see some decent deals after the elections.

 

[Duramax]

I looked all over boat trader and the only things I found comparable were 28K with a ton more hours.. To me it looked like it was 2-3K for the upgraded Tower etc.. and I like that enough that I'd spill for that because it doesn't look like a 1980's jungle gym.. LOL

RD

Maybe I'm alone on this, but your Hallett is absolutely bad ass. Have Alexi put some quality HP in her and you are set. The Malibu looks like a great between boat. I little lower freeboard, but the owner obviously put alot of work into it. I vote for those two.

 

[Cole Trickle]

I’m not gonna get into all the ins and outs of what’s up with the “shuffle” we got going on.. but short and shorter is either keep the Hallett and repower or sell..

Either way I’m gonna need a temp boat if the Hallett is down at Boostpower for months, or a new boat is getting built.

I found this boat for 32k. Has 279 hours is a 2003 with a updated 2010 wake tower on it. Guy spent 21k on interior / tower / stereo etc.. looks clean. It is a Malibu Wake Setter

I know Jack shit about tow boats. I do know this isn’t a surf boat because it’s a direct drive.. but I was thinking I could teach kids to ski / wakeboard / tube etc have fun with it. My Hallett is a little big for that kinda stuff.

What are your thoughts on this for 32k?

PS if you are just gonna make shitty comments about antler boats stop.. the kids need to do some water activities, and this is something I wouldn’t mind leaving in the marina or PArker for 3-4 weeks at a time. My other boats not so much.

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I was gonna take the 210 to Alexi to rebuild a carb and prop dyno the engine. I called and spoke to him at the end of February and he said the first dates he had available were in September.

He's a busy guy. I know you have the hook up but those rebuilds might take a little longer than expected.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

My daughter got student of the week and brought it out to the garage to show me.. she said so what are we doing for student of the week?

Isaid I think I’m gonna buy this boat to take you tubing and skiing etc..

She doesn’t skip a beat and says “no thanks I’ll keep the Hallett.”

so there ya go.. lol. Looks like I’m out.
(Well that and everyone tells me to keep lookin).

Atta girl. You did right with that one Dave.

 

[beaverretriever]

Dave, so sorry I am late to the party and I couldn't get back to you quickly when you contacted me. Too much money for that boat. Tower of course makes it look newish, but everything on that boat is old tech. If the kids want to surf it will be a pain to set up with extra bags in the back taking all you room and a shaper stuck to the side and it still isn't going to produce a wave anyone will be real happy with. As for towing kids around on tubes and the occasional wake board run it would be fine, but so would lots of boats under 25k.

Covid pricing that is worth 30k. Wait until December and it should be closer to 20 to 25k at best. I would need more info on the boat to get you hard pricing.

 

[Riverryder]

Don’t buy that boat. I sold a boat thinking get the kids a more family boat and have regretted selling the boat I sold to get it!
Sold the direct drive boat to a friend. 10,500 he just sold it last weekend for 15k.. it was a 96! I bought for 8500 in like February...

 

[farmo83]

I agree I think it's over priced and the owner is trying to get his money back out of it. I grew up skiing, tubing etc behind a direct drive Supra and had a blast. They are great for water sports and crappy for rough water(and this was 25 years ago when we were running around in it, waves are 2-3x bigger now).

As far as the Hallett goes a boat that is physically painful to use(no matter how bad ass it is) isn't the right boat for somebody(at least to me). My uncle has a Hallett 210 he loves but can barely get out of the thing due to back issues. I expect him to be in a pontoon next summer.

 

[SoCalDave]

Bought my 95 Hallett 210 in 2010 for $16k and sold it in 2019 for $21.5.

 

[River Runnin]

I just threw up a little!.......

 

[oldschool]

Last summer, I bought the Tigé direct drive from RD and used it quite a bit. I sold it and bought an 05’ Sanger V215 this spring and it’s got a ton more room than the direct drive. While it doesn’t have as nice of a ski wake as the direct drive, it does everything else way better. Dave, I know you have the hots for a Malibu, but don’t sleep on a Sanger V215. It will do everything you’re looking to do. The V215 hull has not changed from 2005 to current and I think is one of the better looking towboats around(definitely not the biggest).

 

[DavAlf04]

Come to think of it. Im pretty sure I saw this boat up in atwater. It was at gabriels custom marine interior when I dropped my boat off in April. I believe he said they did the interior and some gel work. Very clean boat, but i agree with others. Over priced.

 

[C-Ya]

The only reason my 270 is even potentially on the chopping block is it's very difficult for me to run it with my ankle the way it is.. Can't get off the bow.. Stand up while driving.. no flat surfaces (meaning horizontal, they are all angled to the waterline) to walk on.. If I go run it my ankle is swollen and killing me for 2 days. Being crippled sucks, which is why I was kinda looking for a pontoon or maybe a wake boat where everything is just easy to get in and out of etc.. "temp boat".

RD

Ok EVERYONE of US......

Dave has given some parameters......

Here is a summary:

1. He is looking for a boat with a $32,000 budget.

2. He may or may not keep boat long term.

3. He wants to be able to teach his kids water sports.

4. He needs a boat that is friendly to his healing broken leg.

5. He would benefit from a boat that Stacy and the kids (eventually) can easily handle.

Other than the boat that is in this thread....... WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? Given the above parameters.

My initial thought was a 24’ foot tritoon with a 150hp or above outboard. No particular brand. What say you?

 

[C-Ya]

Take a look at this..... It looks like it was made for someone with a broken leg. Just saying.

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[ka0tyk]

some good points made. you cant beat with kids how versatile and how easy they are to use. getting in/out and accommodating all the toys and gear.

i just think you're gonna hate the ride quality and the low speeds of all the surf boats.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I have a 2019 Malibu listed in the classifieds that I’ll sell you, and deliver.

 

[HB2Havasu]

This was posted on the nautique board yesterday as a craigslist find

2004 Super Air Nautique Team Edition (Low Hours) - boats - by owner...

2004 Super Air Nautique Team Edition 210 - Beautiful boat in fantastic condition with only 460...

seattle.craigslist.org

Also my daughter wants a boat and I've got looking at 22ft Axis boats same hull as the Malibus. You can pick one up for 50-60K. She going to wait cause she is getting married next year.

Yeah that Super Air looks like a much better deal than the Malibu.

 

[Brobee]

Smoking deal if it’s legit. It has the surf tabs and is basically a Malibu. Looks like it used to have a wrap on it.

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