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watch 1st 60 seconds...

believe what you want to believe
OK, that was mind blowing. I can't believe I fell for it for so long.






















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wow... how lucky can you be.


now AI is developed...

you won't be able to tell real from fake..


even though.. many people couldn't tell the difference before AI...LOL


Happy Friday Everyone
 

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I'm sure he didn't mean that statement..


just like Obama's speak stating the middle class doesn't deserve homeownership...

OK, you claim to know and post the truth the rest of us are blinded too.

So here's the challenge, provide evidence from a different source that substantiates any of the following:

A. That Kissinger actually stated that in a speech to anybody, anywhere.
B. That Kissinger made a speech for that organization on that date.
C. That the WHO has a council of Eugenics.
D. Prove something, anything, something from a different source that establishes even a shred of evidence as to this quotes validity.

Because if you can't, then I don't think you should be knowingly perpetrating a lie.

Thank You
 

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Good morning Escondido! 🌄
Oh yeah, here come da sun 🥵
Was better yesterday with the cloud cover and threat of a few drops for this ole boy getting some yard projects accomplished.

Appears Havasu is in for a glorious day at 104-ish, compared to 120, that's awesome. 👍
 

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Can we all kind of agree that Kissinger is a really creepy individual though? The past 30 years, at least, when he speaks he sounds like an evil sci-fi character, or Disney villain.

Honestly, the guy could sing "Happy Birthday" or "Ring Around The Rosie" and probably scare most of the English speaking world :oops:
 

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Can we all kind of agree that Kissinger is a really creepy individual though? The past 30 years, at least, when he speaks he sounds like an evil sci-fi character, or Disney villain.

Honestly, the guy could sing "Happy Birthday" or "Ring Around The Rosie" and probably scare most of the English speaking world :oops:
Interesting observation, perhaps you could fabricate a story and post it as fact. If asked to substantiate any of it, just reply "Because he sounds creepy" :rolleyes: (Not insinuating you'd do that, just an example of what others find amusing).
The sad part is, it would be an instant hit on the Internet and spread around the globe. Then a few years later, it would return, and make the tour again.
All we've done is taken the age-old neighborhood gossip committee and given it a world wide audience.

I'm not sure the good the internet provides balances the bad and I for one, can easily imagine the very real potential for horrific consequences.
 

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Interesting observation, perhaps you could fabricate a story and post it as fact. If asked to substantiate any of it, just reply "Because he sounds creepy" :rolleyes: (Not insinuating you'd do that, just an example of what others find amusing).
The sad part is, it would be an instant hit on the Internet and spread around the globe. Then a few years later, it would return, and make the tour again.
All we've done is taken the age-old neighborhood gossip committee and given it a world wide audience.

I'm not sure the good the internet provides balances the bad and I for one, can easily imagine the very real potential for horrific consequences.
The "neighborhood" has gone global, and the soap box taller. The internet is to us what fire was to early man...it's greatest tool, as well as it's greatest weapon.
 

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Back in the day, BI. Before Internet, when Encyclopedia Salesmen roamed the land! 😆
One thing the internet has not replaced and never will ---- For the Love of God, Bring Back the Helms Bakery Truck 👃👍🙏
Poor kids today have never experienced the most amazing fragrance a nose can inhale --- standing there when the driver swings open those double doors and you're instantly overwhelmed ---- "Must Have, NOW" 😈
 

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One thing the internet has not replaced and never will ---- For the Love of God, Bring Back the Helms Bakery Truck 👃👍🙏
Poor kids today have never experienced the most amazing fragrance a nose can inhale --- standing there when the driver swings open those double doors and you're instantly overwhelmed ---- "Must Have, NOW" 😈
Before my time 😔
My Mom used to talk about them roaming Glendora. Pops lived in the hood, they probably didn't venture down there much. More of a tamale area🤣
 

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OK, you claim to know and post the truth the rest of us are blinded too.

So here's the challenge, provide evidence from a different source that substantiates any of the following:

A. That Kissinger actually stated that in a speech to anybody, anywhere.
B. That Kissinger made a speech for that organization on that date.
C. That the WHO has a council of Eugenics.
D. Prove something, anything, something from a different source that establishes even a shred of evidence as to this quotes validity.

Because if you can't, then I don't think you should be knowingly perpetrating a lie.

Thank You

Interesting that this came up - guess because Henry is turning 100. Regardless, I got this from a friend recently - reliable source. Some of the quotes give references.

Kissinger is not a friend of the masses IMHO.

A few quotes from Henry Kissinger.


“Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries”.
– Henry Kissinger

“World population needs to be decreased by 50%”.
– Henry Kissinger

“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,” and “The elderly are useless eaters”.
– Henry Kissinger

“(Soldiers are) dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy”.
(as quoted in Woodward and Bernstein’s “The Final Days”, ch. 14)
– Henry Kissinger

“NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order”.
– Henry Kissinger

“My country’s history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order.”
– Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)

“Who controls money controls the world”.
– Henry Kissinger
 

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Interesting that this came up - guess because Henry is turning 100. Regardless, I got this from a friend recently - reliable source. Some of the quotes give references.

Kissinger is not a friend of the masses IMHO.

A few quotes from Henry Kissinger.


“Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries”.
– Henry Kissinger

“World population needs to be decreased by 50%”.
– Henry Kissinger

“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,” and “The elderly are useless eaters”.
– Henry Kissinger

“(Soldiers are) dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy”.
(as quoted in Woodward and Bernstein’s “The Final Days”, ch. 14)
– Henry Kissinger

“NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order”.
– Henry Kissinger

“My country’s history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order.”
– Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)

“Who controls money controls the world”.
– Henry Kissinger

I'm not or have never been a fan of Kissinger but believe that this planet has far exceeded it's ideal number of masses by at least 4X.

Regardless, these quotes or the ones I'm going to provide below (Just for fun), do not address the specific questions I asked in regards to what was posted as being fact.

'The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
Henry Kissinger'

'The task of the leader is to get his people from where they are to where they have not been. Henry Kissinger'

'University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small. Henry Kissinger'

'The nice thing about being a celebrity is that, if you bore people, they think it's their fault. Henry Kissinger'

'The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously. Henry Kissinger'

'A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone. Henry Kissinger
No foreign policy - no matter how ingenious - has any chance of success if it is born in the minds of a few and carried in the hearts of none. Henry Kissinger'

'High office teaches decision making, not substance. It consumes intellectual capital; it does not create it. Most high officials leave office with the perceptions and insights with which they entered; they learn how to make decisions but not what decisions to make. Henry Kissinger'
 

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Some believe by even more than that.

"Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."

Just viewing the masses in places like New Delhi and other extremely crowded cities, I'd for sure lose my shit within minutes. All I can think about is all that human stench. 🤮

We will make nature kneel before us and conform to our needs and desires. Or not. 🤔🙄☠️
 

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OK, you claim to know and post the truth the rest of us are blinded too.

So here's the challenge, provide evidence from a different source that substantiates any of the following:

A. That Kissinger actually stated that in a speech to anybody, anywhere.
B. That Kissinger made a speech for that organization on that date.
C. That the WHO has a council of Eugenics.
D. Prove something, anything, something from a different source that establishes even a shred of evidence as to this quotes validity.

Because if you can't, then I don't think you should be knowingly perpetrating a lie.

Thank You
OK, you claim to know and post the truth the rest of us are blinded too.

So here's the challenge, provide evidence from a different source that substantiates any of the following:

A. That Kissinger actually stated that in a speech to anybody, anywhere.
B. That Kissinger made a speech for that organization on that date.
C. That the WHO has a council of Eugenics.
D. Prove something, anything, something from a different source that establishes even a shred of evidence as to this quotes validity.

Because if you can't, then I don't think you should be knowingly perpetrating a lie.

Thank You
 

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I'm not or have never been a fan of Kissinger but believe that this planet has far exceeded it's ideal number of masses by at least 4X.

Regardless, these quotes or the ones I'm going to provide below (Just for fun), do not address the specific questions I asked in regards to what was posted as being fact.

'The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
Henry Kissinger'

'The task of the leader is to get his people from where they are to where they have not been. Henry Kissinger'

'University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small. Henry Kissinger'

'The nice thing about being a celebrity is that, if you bore people, they think it's their fault. Henry Kissinger'

'The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously. Henry Kissinger'

'A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone. Henry Kissinger
No foreign policy - no matter how ingenious - has any chance of success if it is born in the minds of a few and carried in the hearts of none. Henry Kissinger'

'High office teaches decision making, not substance. It consumes intellectual capital; it does not create it. Most high officials leave office with the perceptions and insights with which they entered; they learn how to make decisions but not what decisions to make. Henry Kissinger'

T

sounds like the only facts you are willing to accept as truth...

is if you were personally in attendance...

so much information has been presented and you try to put the T spin on them...

shit you've claimed many of Tesla patents as non truth...

one of our Posters

presented seven H.K.
statements and you try and put a spin on them as untruths.


there's an old saying..

you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink...

T, you must be one thursty person..


Have a great evening..

I wish you the BEST

our Children and Grandchildren depend on individuals seeing the TRUTH..
 

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it didn't take too long to find US goverment documents taking about population control ...

correspondence between H.K. and Pres. Ford in the 70's..

the cut and paste Kissinger meme...

you can read it here between the lines...


"""by the year 2000;

--Engagement of the developing countries themselves and their political leaders in efforts to moderate population growth;

--A bilateral and multilateral assistance strategy giving priority to thirteen key countries which contribute almost half the present population growth;

--Delivery of family planning information and services to all and increased funding for AID’s population control programs;

--Increased funding and support for a worldwide effort for research in human reproduction;

--US participation with other donor countries and UN agencies in a cooperative endeavor to develop systems for the delivery of basic health services, including family planning, to poorer countries;

--A major worldwide effort of education about population growth and family planning;

--Increased provision for food aid, stockpiling for shortages and agricultural assistance (our food policy is being actively addressed separately in the followup to the US-initiated World Food Conference .)

The Chairman’s summary recognizes that population control policy requires both high level attention and continuing review and updating. It observes that US efforts must be undertaken in such a way as to minimize criticism that they are directed against the interests of the developing countries . Above all, the problem must be recognized by the developing countries themselves . Thus, as the NSSM 200 directive indicated, the objective of the United States is to work closely with others rather than seek to impose our views on them.

The USC Chairman recommends that you endorse the proposed global population strategy summarized above. Because this strategy involves complex and difficult questions, including questions relating to political and security interests, and because a number of different agencies of the government have an interest in this matter, the Under Secretaries Committee, with the exception of AID, also recommends that you assign to that Committee responsibility for the monitoring of policy aspects of implementation of the strategy, for conducting an annual review of progress and for recommending to you any significant changes that may be needed. AID recommends that this responsibility be assigned to the Development Coordination Committee, chaired by the AID Administrator.

In response to the Chairman of the Under Secretaries Committee’s memorandum to you, and the NSSM 200 study, I recommend you authorize issuance of a NSDM that:

-- confirms that US leadership is essential in world population matters;

-- endorses the policy recommendations contained in the Executive Summary of the NSSM 200 response, with the following observations and exceptions:

--care must be taken that our AID program efforts are not so diffuse as to have little impact upon those countries contributing the largest growth in population;""""

now may I return and find some Right Wing Conspiracy meme..

for the libs to get Trigger...

I will post the document for your reading pleasure..


 

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On any Sunday, inland on the dirt.

Leatherneck Roughneck Dave had served 2 tours in Vietnam, by then. Had dinner with him tonight over at the Kennel.
By the Grace of God.

Semper Fi.
 

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T

sounds like the only facts you are willing to accept as truth...

is if you were personally in attendance...

so much information has been presented and you try to put the T spin on them...

shit you've claimed many of Tesla patents as non truth...

one of our Posters

presented seven H.K.
statements and you try and put a spin on them as untruths.


there's an old saying..

you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink...

T, you must be one thursty person..


Have a great evening..

I wish you the BEST

our Children and Grandchildren depend on individuals seeing the TRUTH..

I take it by your response you're unable or unwilling to answer any of my questions. OK, that's cool, it was only a request, certainly not a demand.

I'm not a horse, and I'm very good about making sure I drink sufficient water daily, even if I'm not particularly thirsty. 👍

I've always taken the time to provide reasonable alternatives for you to explore, and yet you refuse. Fair enough, I understand you have found great comfort in your belief system.

Funny, you mention Tesla, a man whom in my youth I found fascinating and read all I could find on him and his works and was greatly entertained by the "Tesla Coil" I built.
The difference between us is, I understand the mechanics and electrical theories behind his inventions, while you're caught up in fictional fantasy stories claiming him as the creator hoping to provide them merit.

The most appropriate analogy would be this: You see yourself as a prophet spreading a doctrine of "Real" truth in an otherwise deceitful world, where as I see you as the friendly Snake Oil Salesman who's been programmed to believe his own fictionalized sales pitches.

I don't expect I live in a world of Truth, I'm fully aware I live in a world of deceit, as it's simply the nature of humans. It's my burden to navigate around and through it when necessary. My journey does not require I follow the "Teachings" of anybody, only my God given brain, a brain that questions everything.

So you will do what you do and I will as well. 👍

✌️
 

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T

it didn't take too long to find US goverment documents taking about population control ...

correspondence between H.K. and Pres. Ford in the 70's..

the cut and paste Kissinger meme...

you can read it here between the lines...


"""by the year 2000;

--Engagement of the developing countries themselves and their political leaders in efforts to moderate population growth;

--A bilateral and multilateral assistance strategy giving priority to thirteen key countries which contribute almost half the present population growth;

--Delivery of family planning information and services to all and increased funding for AID’s population control programs;

--Increased funding and support for a worldwide effort for research in human reproduction;

--US participation with other donor countries and UN agencies in a cooperative endeavor to develop systems for the delivery of basic health services, including family planning, to poorer countries;

--A major worldwide effort of education about population growth and family planning;

--Increased provision for food aid, stockpiling for shortages and agricultural assistance (our food policy is being actively addressed separately in the followup to the US-initiated World Food Conference .)

The Chairman’s summary recognizes that population control policy requires both high level attention and continuing review and updating. It observes that US efforts must be undertaken in such a way as to minimize criticism that they are directed against the interests of the developing countries . Above all, the problem must be recognized by the developing countries themselves . Thus, as the NSSM 200 directive indicated, the objective of the United States is to work closely with others rather than seek to impose our views on them.

The USC Chairman recommends that you endorse the proposed global population strategy summarized above. Because this strategy involves complex and difficult questions, including questions relating to political and security interests, and because a number of different agencies of the government have an interest in this matter, the Under Secretaries Committee, with the exception of AID, also recommends that you assign to that Committee responsibility for the monitoring of policy aspects of implementation of the strategy, for conducting an annual review of progress and for recommending to you any significant changes that may be needed. AID recommends that this responsibility be assigned to the Development Coordination Committee, chaired by the AID Administrator.

In response to the Chairman of the Under Secretaries Committee’s memorandum to you, and the NSSM 200 study, I recommend you authorize issuance of a NSDM that:

-- confirms that US leadership is essential in world population matters;

-- endorses the policy recommendations contained in the Executive Summary of the NSSM 200 response, with the following observations and exceptions:

--care must be taken that our AID program efforts are not so diffuse as to have little impact upon those countries contributing the largest growth in population;""""

now may I return and find some Right Wing Conspiracy meme..

for the libs to get Trigger...

I will post the document for your reading pleasure..



I asked you questions regarding the validity of THAT specific meme, none of those questions pertained to anything other than that.

So none of this discussion you're apparently using as a distraction is even remotely relative.

PS: I'm a firm believer in population control and mandatory sterilization in lieu of continued practice of feeding the problem and encouraging more. But greed demands more and more consumers, so as a consequence the world will suffer and ultimately fall victim to the uncontrolled human blight.
 

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I asked you questions regarding the validity of THAT specific meme, none of those questions pertained to anything other than that.

So none of this discussion you're apparently using as a distraction is even remotely relative.

PS: I'm a firm believer in population control and mandatory sterilization in lieu of continued practice of feeding the problem and encouraging more. But greed demands more and more consumers, so as a consequence the world will suffer and ultimately fall victim to the uncontrolled human blight.
T

its a "MEME"

Did H.K. state those words??

I don't know..... were you personally in attendance during his speech?????

my cut and paste Government document does reflect that trigger "MEME"..
not to difficult to READ between the lines..

per your statement

""PS: I'm a firm believer in population control and mandatory sterilization"""

enough said.. I know where you "stand"

GODBLESS AMERICA
 

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T

its a "MEME"

Did H.K. state those words??

I don't know..... were you personally in attendance during his speech?????

my cut and paste Government document does reflect that trigger "MEME"..
not to difficult to READ between the lines..

per your statement

""PS: I'm a firm believer in population control and mandatory sterilization"""

enough said.. I know where you "stand"

GODBLESS AMERICA
Where I firmly stand is, when you're kids are naked and starving, quit fucking without protection and making more, then parading them on TV for the rest of the world to come save them.
It's not OUR problem, it's YOUR problem.
Show some responsibility and if you can't we'll solve the problem for you --- Yup, that's what I believe about that all righty.

I just wanted to spare you from having to read between any lines, or feel it necessary to take my words out of context then realign them to suit your "Q" agenda or your MEME's.

Enough said all right, you have no f*cking idea where I stand on anything but exactly what I stated above.
But any time you feel it necessary to read between any of my lines, you just sing out, I'll be more than happy to clarify and save you the trouble.

Obviously, we're done here.
 
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