OCM Offshore Custom Marine Lake Havasu City AZ

[AzGeo]

is not legally bound to anyone, because the titles were 'signed over' to a third party . So the actual owner/seller must go after the 'third party' for 'failure of fiduciary duty' .

This would be a different story if the boat were 'stolen', then the property goes back to the original owner/seller .

In cases like this, the new owner has completed a 'true and valid transaction', with the 'third party', and here in lies the problem .

 

[RiverDave]

Can't he legally go back after his boat? I'd assume yes.

The guy that is owed the 100 large isn't owed that for his boats being sold. Read his post in his thread carefully.

 

[PVHCA]

The guy that is owed the 100 large didn't sell a boat through Tim. Read his post in his thread carefully.

After I typed it I remembered our conversation.

 

[Old Texan]

Can't he legally go back after his boat? I'd assume yes.

As I understand this from my personal ordeal, the consignment guy having the contractual power over the deal, sells the boat legally to a new owner that pays in full. The transaction gives the boat and title to the new owner. this leaves the payment from buyer in the hands of the consignment guy to pass on to the seller.

In my deal, I got a copy of the buyer's cancelled check and he has my old boat and the title legally transferred to his name. I'm left trying to recover the final $7K owed to me by a broke fuck up who I believe owes others. Can't get any money from him in a civil suit as he put everything he owns in relatives names.:thumbsdown

I imagine there is expensive legal means to tie up a title, but it likely just ads to your loss and you nor the new owner can sell the damned thing until it goes on in court forever.

 

[McKay]

The guy that is owed the 100 large isn't owed that for his boats being sold. Read his post in his thread carefully.

Can someone post a link to this thread? I can't find it.

Thx

 

[RiverDave]

Search offshore custom marine and there is a lot of threads

 

[Old Texan]

Search offshore custom marine and there is a lot of threads

Is there any information on what the NJ lawsuit is about? He's putting a lot of hope of getting money from that deal it sounds.

 

[ArizonaDCB]

If this Post stays alive and the information keeps flowing more people will become aware of this situation and hopefully drive this guy out of Town.
Hopefully the word will spread and everyone will pull their boats out of there!

 

[Scott E]

If this Post stays alive and the information keeps flowing more people will become aware of this situation and hopefully drive this guy out of Town.
Hopefully the word will spread and everyone will pull their boats out of there!

I was talking with a couple people last week, both of which are on here, and the 3 of us could not believe that there are still boats in there and that he is still in town driving around in that big truck.

 

[purrfecttremor]

I was talking with a couple people last week, both of which are on here, and the 3 of us could not believe that there are still boats in there and that he is still in town driving around in that big truck.

I've been thinking the same thing.

 

[milkmoney]

I have come to the conclusion that Tim (ocm) has to be on some kind of drug or drugs , or he is jus so stupid he can even see the light.

I would think he would jus disappear [emoji107]

 

[ChevelleSB406]

I have come to the conclusion that Tim (ocm) has to be on some kind of drug or drugs , or he is jus so stupid he can even see the light.

I would think he would jus disappear [emoji107]

I would guess more of those anti-social/sociopathy tendencies are at play here. Its just a giant game of chess, move here, strategy here, string this out, collect this check, just like playing a video game, no morals or emotions or worry for how people feel, perceive you, etc etc. As long as he can literally keep the doors open doing what he is doing, he sees no reason to change anything, just keep the cycle alive, then on to the next.

 

[lbhsbz]

Can't he legally go back after his boat? I'd assume yes.

Not if he handed the signed off title to OCM...if the new owner was handed a boat and title with the seller's signature, the new owner owns the boat. The matter lies between OCM and the seller and the validity of the contract.

If seller didn't read the contract right, it very wall may have been written such that OCM has no legal obligation to pay the guy. Once you hand over a signed title, you hand over everything. Maybe one of the few that did get their $$ can post a copy of the contract

 

[dread Pirate]

I have come to the conclusion that Tim (ocm) has to be on some kind of drug or drugs , or he is jus so stupid he can even see the light.

I would think he would jus disappear [emoji107]

This shit would never fly in New Jersey or Miami. POS would have been fish food long ago. BADA BING BADA BOOM!

With that much desert around there it's a damn miracle he isn't fertilizing cactus.

 

[milkmoney]

I would guess more of those anti-social/sociopathy tendencies are at play here. Its just a giant game of chess, move here, strategy here, string this out, collect this check, just like playing a video game, no morals or emotions or worry for how people feel, perceive you, etc etc. As long as he can literally keep the doors open doing what he is doing, he sees no reason to change anything, just keep the cycle alive, then on to the next.

He must of been an abused child or lack the attention of mommy and daddy [emoji107][emoji202]

 

[milkmoney]

This shit would never fly in New Jersey or Miami. POS would have been fish food long ago. BADA BING BADA BOOM!

With that much desert around there it's a damn miracle he isn't fertilizing cactus.

That's what I have said early on. As many people he has fucked with, you think one would be the type to take matters into their own hands. It's shocking really [emoji107][emoji202]

 

[Whitecaps]

Did the last guy on here looking for help with his 100k ever get his money?

 

[Whitecaps]

Taken this afternoon.... "Off to go on vacation with all the money I made off selling boats!"

:lmao

 

[Whitecaps]

Tim was ordered to turn over his financial records this month in court. The newspaper reported this story that Tim's Lawyer has withdrawn from the case. Once can speculate why, but why bother.. At this point that whole program is just circling the drain.

I feel bad for those that he owes money too, because it would certainly seem the end is near. (Shit has got to be pretty bad, when your own lawyer tells ya he's done)

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the Harold changed the website!:thumbsdown

 

[RiverDave]

Got a link to what they changed?

RD

 

[McKay]

Search offshore custom marine and there is a lot of threads

I tried that. Just could not find the one your talking about with 100k out. I personally know of one north of 100k too. Wondering if it is the same deal.

 

[boat527]

I tried that. Just could not find the one your talking about with 100k out. I personally know of one north of 100k too. Wondering if it is the same deal.

Dude.. Learn how to search. Took me 5 min. On my phone no less... This OCM crap needs to go away...
http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?136250-Havasu-boat-dealer-fails-payment-again

 

[McKay]

Dude.. Learn how to search. Took me 5 min. On my phone no less... This OCM crap needs to go away...
http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?136250-Havasu-boat-dealer-fails-payment-again

Sorry "dude" don't hang on forums all day, but thanks for your help!

 

[boat527]

Not directed at you.. 93 pages of Tim bs.. Kind of wears on you..

Hes a poser, pure and simple .

 

[adam909]

is this dude being raped in prison yet?

 

[RiverDave]

is this dude being raped in prison yet?

The prosecutor called me a couple of times last week. They are starting the trial soon and he feels he will he locked up for a decade.

 

[Spudsbud]

Why does anyone do business with this guy?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Why does anyone do business with this guy?

Hindsight is 20/20.

People kept saying “Everything is fine.”, “It’s just a misunderstanding.” Until all of the incidents stacked up and it started crumbling. It was then obvious what the “haters” were saying all along was true - that the guy is a crook.

Looking back, I’m sure those that stood up for the guy for so long regret it now.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

is this dude being raped in prison yet?

The guy stole some money from “rich” people with boats in a non violent scheme.

He’s probably going to some minimum security deal when he goes down.

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

100k that’s dig a hole $$$ ouch

 

[HB2Havasu]

The prosecutor called me a couple of times last week. They are starting the trial soon and he feels he will he locked up for a decade.

I'm still 99% sure he will be vacationing in Mexico when his trial begins, lol.

 

[RiverDave]

I'm still 99% sure he will be vacationing in Mexico when his trial begins, lol.

I’d be surprised if he sticks around as well.

 

[spectras only]

I’d be surprised if he sticks around as well.

He'll be on the missing persons list, reported by friend of his

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

I'm still 99% sure he will be vacationing in Mexico when his trial begins, lol.

Easier to get dead in Mexico then in the states

 

[RiverDave]

Easier to get dead in Mexico then in the states

Easy to get dead anywhere if you are looking for it..

 

[aka619er]

I just read about a wanted man getting picked up in Mexico. I'm thinking it's getting harder to hide out down there.

 

[Tank]

I just read about a wanted man getting picked up in Mexico. I'm thinking it's getting harder to hide out down there.

I know from first hand experience - People get picked up in Mexico and "extradited" back ALL THE TIME. Don't believe what you read on the internet. Someone wants to find you, you'll be found in Mexico. Easy enough to work a deal to get said wanted person back across the boarder.

 

[Old Texan]

I know from first hand experience - People get picked up in Mexico and "extradited" back ALL THE TIME. Don't believe what you read on the internet. Someone wants to find you, you'll be found in Mexico. Easy enough to work a deal to get said wanted person back across the boarder.

I'd think the cartels would see turning in someone for a bounty, as an opportunity

 

[Tank]

I'd think the cartels would see turning in someone for a bounty, as an opportunity

I Dont know about that. But there’s plenty of bounty hunters as well as US LE down there. Snatching someone isn’t difficult. Matter of fact it’s probably easier in Mexico than it is in a non 3rd world country because much of the time you don’t even need to go through the extradition process, just Snatch and go.

 

[RiverDave]

I'd think the cartels would see turning in someone for a bounty, as an opportunity

I don’t know a lot about carrels but I can’t imagine they would even bother getting involved. Not enough money and I’d imagine they’d want to steer clear of US law enforcement. (Even if they are working with US law enforcement at the higher levels)

 

[RiverDave]

I Dont know about that. But there’s plenty of bounty hunters as well as US LE down there. Snatching someone isn’t difficult. Matter of fact it’s probably easier in Mexico than it is in a non 3rd world country because much of the time you don’t even need to go through the extradition process, just Snatch and go.

That’s why ya take your happy ass to Belize.. lol. No extradition

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Pretty simple.. the people he stole from have a little too much to lose. And they aren't getting their money back anyway.

 

[RiverDave]

Pretty simple.. the people he stole from have a little too much to lose. And they aren't getting their money back anyway.

I talked to one of the guys he stole a couple hundred thousand from.

He pretty much echoed your sentiments that while it sucks, he had way too much to lose if he had someone go break his legs. In the end a couple hundred wasn’t that big of a deal to him.

There are others though that were selling their boats and it was a huge blow to their household.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I talked to one of the guys he stole a couple hundred thousand from.

He pretty much echoed your sentiments that while it sucks, he had way too much to lose if he had someone go break his legs. In the end a couple hundred wasn’t that big of a deal to him.

There are others though that were selling their boats and it was a huge blow to their household.

Agreed.. In both situations you are not going to throw more "good" money after bad... especially with the risk of the jail time associated with organizing and funding some type of hit.

 

[BajaT]

That’s why ya take your happy ass to Belize.. lol. No extradition

Want to say years ago they extradited the guy from Belize that hit and ran after using a floating boat at night as a ramp. Other boat may not have had their lights on at the time and the occupants were floating in water, some with no clothes on. One was off duty female DPS officer. The driver was well known at Roadrunner. Can't remember his name.

 

[RiverDave]

Want to say years ago they extradited the guy from Belize that hit and ran after using a floating boat at night as a ramp. Other boat may not have had their lights on at the time and the occupants were floating in water, some with no clothes on. One was off duty female DPS officer. The driver was well known at Roadrunner. Can't remember his name.

I know the guy you are talking about. He used to stay next door to me in the keys. His name is Scotty and while he owns or owned (haven’t talked to him in a few years) one of the larger bars in Belize I don’t believe he was extradited.

Honestly I don’t remember anything legal wise actually happening from that whole deal? (Not saying it did or didn’t, I don’t remember)

He’s was good friends with one legged Timmy (old roadrunner bartender), and Donnie (old fox’s Bartender) etc..

Timmy used to live next door to me as well.

That said ya get your ass to Mexico and the. Fly to a non extradition country was my point. Lol

 

[Old Texan]

I Dont know about that. But there’s plenty of bounty hunters as well as US LE down there. Snatching someone isn’t difficult. Matter of fact it’s probably easier in Mexico than it is in a non 3rd world country because much of the time you don’t even need to go through the extradition process, just Snatch and go.

That’s why ya take your happy ass to Belize.. lol. No extradition

It's the cartels home turf, so they have local law paid off. Local law is the go between collecting funds and delivering the perp. And if a bounty hunter comes down, he likely has to buy safe passage.

Just guessing

 

[boatpi]

If he shows up and the trail begins, then splits, it does not matter 2 cents. The judge will continue in what is called trial in absentia.

He can get convicted and even sentenced while on the run. The cool thing is IF he splits, the judge will issue a no bail warrant, and if the DA goes for it they will extradite him from any state, and Mexico. We always find fools in Mexico, especially Gringos, they stand out.