Obamagate -Spy Gate, Obama accused of wiretapping Trump Tower

[Racey]

This is gonna get good

I recommend going back to the start of this thread, and read it, and remember the sentiment then, vs where we are now.... It provides some great perspective.

 

[Hullbilly]

It is quite amusing to see, yet once again that the ever correct and all knowing crew in here has struck out yet again. They never cease to amaze me that hollow hatred and spite have them so blindfolded.

 

[regor]

It is quite amusing to see, yet once again that the ever correct and all knowing crew in here has struck out yet again. They never cease to amaze me that hollow hatred and spite have them so blindfolded.

What?!!!!!!!!!

Craaaaack, out of the park, 4-run dinger, beat down.....................

 

[HotRod82]

I can't help but to feel sad in that this is where we are in this country. There has always been dirty politics, but this brings it down to a new level. Even if the DOJ/FBI are successful in rationalizing (and justifying) what they did and no one is prosecuted, they will have set a new precedent making it OK to weaponize the DOJ for political purposes. If no one goes down for this, what is to stop the Trump administration from laying a bunch of landmines on their way out the door?

I'll say again, the fact Carter Page has never been charged with a crime after being investigated by the FBI TWICE (!)
all the while being named as the primary reason to spy on the Trump campaign, speaks volumes.

 

[Racey]

 

[buck35]

Oh and please refer to this thread when I drop a big I TOLD YOU SO on you



http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?163801-I-want-you-to-mark-down-today

This seems like asgood a time as any to repost this gem from page one.

 

[was thatguy]

This seems like asgood a time as any to repost this gem from page one.

Might as well throw this out again...

 

[530RL]

I'll say again, the fact Carter Page has never been charged with a crime after being investigated by the FBI TWICE (!)
all the while being named as the primary reason to spy on the Trump campaign, speaks volumes.

Carter Page is interesting because the Trump campaign publicly stated that he never had anything to do with, or was associated with the Trump campaign, yet they now say having a warrant against him is the same as having a warrant against Trump.....or....more speifically....."Obama had Trump's wires tapped in Trump Tower".....

If he was never part of the campaign, and he never had an office in Trump Tower, how does the specific Carter Page incident have anything to do with the "spying" on the Trump campaign when Trump has stated Carter Page had nothing to do with his campaign? If he had nothing to do with the campaign as Trump and his team have asserted, there is no way Carter Page could be used as a "spy" against a campaign he had nothing to do with. Someone is lying.....

“Mr. Page is not an advisor and has made no contribution to the campaign,”.... “He’s never been part of our campaign. Period.” campaign spokesperson Jason Miller, September 2016

Seems to me people want to pick out little bits that kind of back up their personal conclusions and do not want to wait for Mueller to complete the work which may completely clear Trump and the balance of all his campaign staff?

 

[RVR SWPR]

MEANWHILE

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[HotRod82]

Carter Page is interesting because the Trump campaign publicly stated that he never had anything to do with, or was associated with the Trump campaign, yet they now say having a warrant against him is the same as having a warrant against Trump.....or....more speifically....."Obama had Trump's wires tapped in Trump Tower".....

If he was never part of the campaign, and he never had an office in Trump Tower, how does the specific Carter Page incident have anything to do with the "spying" on the Trump campaign when Trump has stated Carter Page had nothing to do with his campaign? If he had nothing to do with the campaign as Trump and his team have asserted, there is no way Carter Page could be used as a "spy" against a campaign he had nothing to do with. Someone is lying.....

“Mr. Page is not an advisor and has made no contribution to the campaign,”.... “He’s never been part of our campaign. Period.” campaign spokesperson Jason Miller, September 2016

Seems to me people want to pick out little bits that kind of back up their personal conclusions and do not want to wait for Mueller to complete the work which may completely clear Trump and the balance of all his campaign staff?

The Trump campaign and Page himself have stated he had no official connection or position with the campaign. He was however, in direct and frequent contact with actual members of the campaign. Page was an adviser to the advisors if you will.
Page was job shopping in the event Trump won. It seems clear to me the FBI used accusation and innuendo stemming from the 2013 FBI investigation into Page working as a foreign agent to secure multiple warrants. Page was cleared by the FBI in 2013 and proved to be a patriot, the Russian spies that attempted to flip him were prosecuted.

I noticed today Clapper admits to spying on the Trump campaign....he claims it was necessary in order to monitor the Russians. If that was actually the case (and you were not trying to frame Trump) why not let Trump in on the surveillance and have Trump help you? They were trying to trap him. "operation crossfire hurricane"

This whole thing stinks.

 

[530RL]

The Trump campaign and Page himself have stated he had no official connection or position with the campaign. He was however, in direct and frequent contact with actual members of the campaign. Page was an adviser to the advisors if you will.
Page was job shopping in the event Trump won. It seems clear to me the FBI used accusation and innuendo stemming from the 2013 FBI investigation into Page working as a foreign agent to secure multiple warrants. Page was cleared by the FBI in 2013 and proved to be a patriot, the Russian spies that attempted to flip him were prosecuted.

I noticed today Clapper admits to spying on the Trump campaign....he claims it was necessary in order to monitor the Russians. If that was actually the case (and you were not trying to frame Trump) why not let Trump in on the surveillance and have Trump help you? They were trying to trap him. "operation crossfire hurricane"

This whole thing stinks.

Certainly a reasonable conclusion one could come to.

Another one would be the FBI was just doing its' national security job as permitted by the Constitution consistent with previous policy and when necessary approved by a US Court. Further, Mueller's report will point out exactly what were the objective facts.

And to the extent that any brush ups or warrants were inappropriately conducted or obtained, given the visibility of all this, they will come to light also.

If as Trump has repeatedly stated, neither he nor anyone in his campaign broke any laws and in fact "Obama ordered" illegal activities, then this was all for the better good and Trump will have cleaned up the swamp even more.

 

[HotRod82]

Certainly a reasonable conclusion one could come to.

Another one would be the FBI was just doing its' national security job as permitted by the Constitution consistent with previous policy and when necessary approved by a US Court. Further, Mueller's report will point out exactly what were the objective facts.

And to the extent that any brush ups or warrants were inappropriately conducted or obtained, given the visibility of all this, they will come to light also.

If as Trump has repeatedly stated, neither he nor anyone in his campaign broke any laws and in fact "Obama ordered" illegal activities, then this was all for the better good and Trump will have cleaned up the swamp even more.

If the DOJ/FBI comes forward with evidence they were surveilling the Clinton campaign with the same vigor in order to keep an eye on the Russians as Clapper is now claiming they did with the Trump campaign, I'll feel better about the whole deal.
Back to my earlier post, it's just sad this is where we are now.....I fear going forward with every new President, we will get a new special council.

 

[FreeBird236]

Certainly a reasonable conclusion one could come to.

Another one would be the FBI was just doing its' national security job as permitted by the Constitution consistent with previous policy and when necessary approved by a US Court. Further, Mueller's report will point out exactly what were the objective facts.

And to the extent that any brush ups or warrants were inappropriately conducted or obtained, given the visibility of all this, they will come to light also.

If as Trump has repeatedly stated, neither he nor anyone in his campaign broke any laws and in fact "Obama ordered" illegal activities, then this was all for the better good and Trump will have cleaned up the swamp even more.

Certainly a conclusion one could come to, but not this late in the game. I'm surprised you're still trying to spin. Not much longer now. Hey, do you know Adam Schiff?

 

[Sandlord]

“Let me tell you something that I know for a fact,” Caputo said on “The Ingraham Angle.” “This informant, this person that they tried to plant into the campaign ... he’s not the only person who came to the campaign. And the FBI is not the only Obama agency who came at the campaign.”

Caputo added: “I know because they came at me. And I’m looking for clearance from my attorney to reveal this to the public. This is just the beginning.”

 

[regor]

Certainly a conclusion one could come to, but not this late in the game. I'm surprised you're still trying to spin. Not much longer now. Hey, do you know Adam Schiff?

What did Jeff know and when did he know it?

 

[FreeBird236]

What did Jeff know and when did he know it?

He's probably part of it along with his buddy John "Dossier" McCain.

 

[regor]

He's probably part of it along with his buddy John "Dossier" McCann.

They sure act like they are with their whining and attacks on the man!!!!

 

[spectra3279]

Carter Page is interesting because the Trump campaign publicly stated that he never had anything to do with, or was associated with the Trump campaign, yet they now say having a warrant against him is the same as having a warrant against Trump.....or....more speifically....."Obama had Trump's wires tapped in Trump Tower".....

If he was never part of the campaign, and he never had an office in Trump Tower, how does the specific Carter Page incident have anything to do with the "spying" on the Trump campaign when Trump has stated Carter Page had nothing to do with his campaign? If he had nothing to do with the campaign as Trump and his team have asserted, there is no way Carter Page could be used as a "spy" against a campaign he had nothing to do with. Someone is lying.....

“Mr. Page is not an advisor and has made no contribution to the campaign,”.... “He’s never been part of our campaign. Period.” campaign spokesperson Jason Miller, September 2016

Seems to me people want to pick out little bits that kind of back up their personal conclusions and do not want to wait for Mueller to complete the work which may completely clear Trump and the balance of all his campaign staff?

Isn't that what your doing?

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[Sandlord]

I guess nobody ever told Clapper he should shut the fuck up, for his own good.
https://globalnews.ca/video/4226444...tently-admitted-to-fbi-spying-on-his-campaign

 

[wallnutz]

I guess nobody ever told Clapper he should shut the fuck up, for his own good.
https://globalnews.ca/video/4226444...tently-admitted-to-fbi-spying-on-his-campaign
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He might be the first to drop, and it will be his own doing.

 

[Sandlord]

He might be the first to drop, and it will be his own doing.

Tough call between Clapper, Brennan, and Comey. If faced with treason or sedition for attempting to orchestrate a coup of the US Government, I wonder which one will flip first?

 

[wallnutz]

Clapper and Comey will hang themselves, Brennan talks in circles but his time will come. The finger pointing will be epic, just need the first one to roll.

 

[Sandlord]

Clapper and Comey will hang themselves, Brennan talks in circles but his time will come. The finger pointing will be epic, just need the first one to roll.

When you've got the rank & file FBI agents asking for a subpoena you've really got to wonder how bad Comey is?
I've never heard of anyone asking for a subpoena?

 

[wallnutz]

When you've got the rank & file FBI agents asking for a subpoena you've really got to wonder how bad Comey is?
I've never heard of anyone asking for a subpoena?

Probably more than one wants to distant themselves from Comey, there could be some collateral damage from his attempted suicide. I imagine there are going to be a lot more leaks coming soon too, lots of agents just want to get back to work.

 

[Sandlord]

Clapper: We know the Russians were trying to hurt Hillary Clinton.
also Clapper: We put someone in the Trump Campaign to "protect" Trump from Russians.

 

[Royally PO'd]

I have said for a lot of years, we NEED term limits, and now more than ever .... Two terms--- One in office and one in prison.

 

[Sandlord]

It sounds crazy...I'll give you that.
But the sob is usually proven right at the end of the day.

Holy shit, your President is delusional. :yikes

Or just another example of trumps baseless claims with no eveidence of anything. He has all the power in the world now, let's see the proof...

 

[regor]

hahaha the chimps will still be in denial!!

Speaking of chimps, where’s the Grand Tardpa?

 

[500bbc]

Boy scout Jamboree

hahaha the chimps will still be in denial!!

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Speaking of chimps, where’s the Grand Tardpa?

 

[Hullbilly]

hahaha the chimps will still be in denial!!

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Speaking of chimps, where’s the Grand Tardpa?

Whodafuqcares?

 

[FreeBird236]

hahaha the chimps will still be in denial!!

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Speaking of chimps, where’s the Grand Tardpa?

Someone posted S. Rice was doing checkpoints at Topock all weekend.

 

[wallnutz]

Someone posted S. Rice was doing checkpoints at Topock all weekend.

Gmac is back herding bluegill, must have got demoted again.

 

[Angler]

 

[Angler]

Clapper: Obama Was Behind The Whole Thing

by Tyler Durden
Sun, 07/22/2018 - 14:45
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Former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper admitted in a CNN interview Saturday that former President Obama instigated the ongoing investigations into Donald Trump and those in his orbit.

Speaking with CNN's Anderson Cooper, Clapper let slip:

If it weren’t for President Obama we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set up a whole sequence of events which are still unfolding today including Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation. President Obama is responsible for that. It was he who tasked us to do that intelligence community assessment in the first place.

James Clapper admits to Anderson Cooper that Obama set off the sequence of events that led to the Mueller investigation by tasking the intelligence community assessment pic.twitter.com/v79PNuTxBe

— ᏢᏒᎥsᏟᎥᏞᏞᎪ’s ᏉᎥᎬᎳ (@PriscillasView) July 19, 2018
Recall in May, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) fired off a letter to the Department of Justice demanding unredacted versions of text messages between FBI agent Peter Strzok and former bureau attorney Lisa Page, including one exchange which took place after Strzok had returned from London as part of the recently launched "Operation Crossfire Hurricane" referring to the White House "running" an unknown investigation.

Strzok had been in London to interview Australian ambassador Alexander Downer about a drunken conversation with Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos, who - after reportedly being fed information - mentioned Russia having Hillary Clinton's emails.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.” My answer, “well, maybe for you they are.” And of course, I was planning on telling this guy, thanks for coming, we’ve got an hour, but with Bill [Priestap] there, I’ve got no control….

Page: Yeah, whatever (re the WH comment). We’ve got the emails that say otherwise.

And with Clapper's admission - it looks like Strzok's text stating "the White House is running this" may have been right on the money.

Update: Meanwhile, House Judiciary Chair Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) told Fox's Maria Bartiromo that the American public needs to see an unredacted version of the Carter Page FISA application.

.@RepGoodlatte: "I have had the opportunity... to read these FISA warrant applications without all of those redactions... and I think that it is critically important that the American people have the opportunity to see most of the rest of those documents." pic.twitter.com/LJPijepOYg

— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 22, 2018
We can only imagine what's in there...

 

[Old Texan]

Clapper: Obama Was Behind The Whole Thing

by Tyler Durden
Sun, 07/22/2018 - 14:45
0
SHARES
Former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper admitted in a CNN interview Saturday that former President Obama instigated the ongoing investigations into Donald Trump and those in his orbit.

Speaking with CNN's Anderson Cooper, Clapper let slip:

If it weren’t for President Obama we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set up a whole sequence of events which are still unfolding today including Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation. President Obama is responsible for that. It was he who tasked us to do that intelligence community assessment in the first place.

James Clapper admits to Anderson Cooper that Obama set off the sequence of events that led to the Mueller investigation by tasking the intelligence community assessment pic.twitter.com/v79PNuTxBe

— ᏢᏒᎥsᏟᎥᏞᏞᎪ’s ᏉᎥᎬᎳ (@PriscillasView) July 19, 2018
Recall in May, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) fired off a letter to the Department of Justice demanding unredacted versions of text messages between FBI agent Peter Strzok and former bureau attorney Lisa Page, including one exchange which took place after Strzok had returned from London as part of the recently launched "Operation Crossfire Hurricane" referring to the White House "running" an unknown investigation.

Strzok had been in London to interview Australian ambassador Alexander Downer about a drunken conversation with Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos, who - after reportedly being fed information - mentioned Russia having Hillary Clinton's emails.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.” My answer, “well, maybe for you they are.” And of course, I was planning on telling this guy, thanks for coming, we’ve got an hour, but with Bill [Priestap] there, I’ve got no control….

Page: Yeah, whatever (re the WH comment). We’ve got the emails that say otherwise.

And with Clapper's admission - it looks like Strzok's text stating "the White House is running this" may have been right on the money.

Update: Meanwhile, House Judiciary Chair Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) told Fox's Maria Bartiromo that the American public needs to see an unredacted version of the Carter Page FISA application.

.@RepGoodlatte: "I have had the opportunity... to read these FISA warrant applications without all of those redactions... and I think that it is critically important that the American people have the opportunity to see most of the rest of those documents." pic.twitter.com/LJPijepOYg

— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 22, 2018
We can only imagine what's in there...

Maybe it's time for Sessions to at the very least make a statement about what is being done, if anything to investigate actual issues rather than allow this whole Mueller witch hunt to continue.

Or is Trump letting the whole witchhunt play out with these clowns exposing themselves per the above information? Hmmmmmm

 

[Racey]

Well well well.....

It's almost like, ohhh i dunno, Trump knew about all of this from nearly day one, and has played the anti-Trumpers into defending liars and crooks and painting themselves into corners.
I know it may be shocking to consider, but maybe Trump has access to more information than the public being President.

We are only just seeing the beginning of how big this whole scandal was.

 

[SNiC Jet]

If you ever want to know what illegal/unethical schemes the DEMs are engaging in "behind the scenes"...... simply look at their pointed accusations aimed at their adversaries....

 

[boatdoc55]

Well, if our little shindig down here in the dungeon over the weekend is any indication of what's going to happen, it's going to be a lovely week in D.C.

 

[HotRod82]

The admission by Clapper is staggering........Is he panicking? Seems to me a man in his situation would want to STFU.
Perhaps the thought of spending his last years in jail is affecting his judgement.

 

[Sandlord]

Clapper: Obama Was Behind The Whole Thing

I'm surprised he skipped right over Rice and Jarret, and went right to the head of the snake.
Obama will claim Kenyan citizenship before this is all over.

 

[Racey]

The admission by Clapper is staggering........Is he panicking? Seems to me a man in his situation would want to STFU.
Perhaps the thought of spending his last years in jail is affecting his judgement.

We know the left hates meritocracy.... it appears none of these guys were hired because of their brilliance.

 

[Old Texan]

Well well well.....

It's almost like, ohhh i dunno, Trump knew about all of this from nearly day one, and has played the anti-Trumpers into defending liars and crooks and painting themselves into corners.
I know it may be shocking to consider, but maybe Trump has access to more information than the public being President.

We are only just seeing the beginning of how big this whole scandal was.

That is why I've always felt Trump to be the ideal candidate. The crass ego and his baggage aside, the man is highly intelligent and knows how the game is played. He's paid to play and he is the real life version of Rodney Daingerfield in "Back to School".....A movie comedy that has scenes which should be taught in every business course in every college.

Trump knows how the Clintons play and all of government from local to national. The man talked for years about how the nation is broken from a government oversight standpoint and begged for a candidate to stand up and force change. Once he realized, for a myriad of reasons, that was not going to happen or even possible, he did what he does, "DIY"

He plays these fools and they hang themselves, both domestic and foreign.

 

[500bbc]

Can't say it enough, no one, absolutely no one on the left or Rino supporter gives a flying fuck.

Ask any one of the Turd lickers here...

 

[regor]

Trump To Revoke Security Clearance For Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Hayden & Rice.

 

[regor]

Buh Bye Mueller..............








Oh yea, don't want to forget anyone.

Buh Bye Tardpa, Cooney, Saucy, Bobby, Face, Turdy, JBS, CD, Wakeboard94, Squeegee.....................

 

[500bbc]

Buh Bye Mueller..............








Oh yea, don't want to forget anyone.

Buh Bye Tardpa, Cooney, Saucy, Bobby, Face, Turdy, JBS, CD, Wakeboard94, Squeegee.....................

Pffffft, Trump said PUSSY and is a RACIST RACIST RACIST!!!!!

We prefer, the Stasi, KGB and Gestapo to that orange menace!!!!

 

[wsuwrhr]

If they are not in the job anymore, they shouldn't have clearance, anyways.

Why is this even a story.

Trump To Revoke Security Clearance For Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Hayden & Rice.

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[regor]

If they are not in the job anymore, they shouldn't have clearance, anyways.

Why is this even a story.

Because once a Deep State elite.................always a Deep State elite.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Once they leave the job, they shouldn't have access to this info unless it is a needtoknow scenario.

Because once a Deep State elite.................always a Deep State elite.

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[regor]

Once they leave the job, they shouldn't have access to this info unless it is a needtoknow scenario.

Do you know where you live?

These Deep State scumbags don't think so, nor does Congress. I have to give a pass to the peanut farmer, I don't think he's involved with the four other pieces of crap.