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I'll go out on a limb here....

Any "Evidence" located at the scene will be linked to another person who had absolutely nothing to do with the actual shooting. Like was mentioned above, this whole ordeal needs to be cleaned up quickly, packaged and wrapped with a bow.
 

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That’s a strong possibility. It will be interesting where this goes and how the media spins it.

I hadn’t thought of that angle, so I’d like to change my hunch to the mentally ill troon in the NYC street with the silencer.
 

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Just read there was a shareholder meeting scheduled an hour after the shooting
They still held the meeting. Wow
I saw a news line that the earnings call was cancelled 9 mins in. While continuing a shareholder meeting may seem insensitive, I can say that when anything of significant nature occurs in my organization, us stakeholders get together immediately to start brainstorming.
 

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This was an eye opener for me when reading about the claim denial record of UHC which is who we have (had) for Part G Supplemental Medicare.
Since open enrollement is still open for 2 more days I just switched us to Blue Cross Blue Shield. Kaiser does not do business in AZ.
I'll bet I'm not alone in switching out of UHC over the next 2 days. Since we are in reasonably good health I'd not had a claim for them to dispute.
But adios to yet another shitty company. Hope UHC goes tits up after reading more about them.
 

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17% of their subscribers are denied coverage.
We went thru the denial shit storm with them with one of the kids cancer for 7 years.
A fight every day.

Cancer is an easy $1.000.000.00 medical bill.

Ya still get a copy of the medical bills though it's also billed to the insurance.
My colon cancer was over $1,240.000 +

Alice breast cancer flirting with $110.000 + and she has in-house treatment coverage. Her new boobs are an "enhancement " so that charge was on us.
Ali just now got a phone call it's covered. But that wasn't easy to get.

Son’s Lymphoma rolled over $2 million, blew way past it. Dual insurance then kicked in, but not cooperative, not easy.
Cancer treatments are an absolute nightmare. Wife’s monthly $3,000 shots went from covered to not covered without notice. 3 months later we got a bill and late notice. Same with the reconstructive surgery. Covered, not covered. BS. They’re all crooks.
 

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This was an eye opener for me when reading about the claim denial record of UHC which is who we have (had) for Part G Supplemental Medicare.
Since open enrollement is still open for 2 more days I just switched us to Blue Cross Blue Shield. Kaiser does not do business in AZ.
I'll bet I'm not alone in switching out of UHC over the next 2 days. Since we are in reasonably good health I'd not had a claim for them to dispute.
But adios to yet another shitty company. Hope UHC goes tits up after reading more about them.
Supplemental plans must pay any claim approved by Medicare. Their customer service and processing might still suck, but other than that I don’t think there’s any concern about the handling of claims.

I use Regence Blue Cross Blue Shield for my G plan, and they’ve been great. As to Kaiser, they offer only Advantage Plans in Washington, not Supplemental, and I’m guessing it’s the same everywhere.
 

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I just read he had the Diddy list and was going to announce it at the conference. Or from inside his Cadillac.
 

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17% of their subscribers are denied coverage.
We went thru the denial shit storm with them with one of the kids cancer for 7 years.
A fight every day.

Cancer is an easy $1.000.000.00 medical bill.

Ya still get a copy of the medical bills though it's also billed to the insurance.
My colon cancer was over $1,240.000 +

Alice breast cancer flirting with $110.000 + and she has in-house treatment coverage. Her new boobs are an "enhancement " so that charge was on us.
Ali just now got a phone call it's covered. But that wasn't easy to get.

Sons Lymphoma rolled over $2 million, blew way past it. Dual insurance then kicked in, but not cooperative, not easy.
My wife just had a routine outpatient surgery with no device implants. The surgery took 2 hours plus recovery time. The bill was $138,276 (gotta get that extra $276). No outpatient procedure, with no implants, should cost that much. Especially a 2 hour procedure.
 

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Son’s hospital bill from his quad accident was over 500k. My out of pocket was 1500.

Everything comes down to how your coverage is configured. Our UHC coverage is company funded. Huge difference.
 

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Just left lunch with a close friend.
His young, stunning hot wife had both boobs removed nipples and most all.

Then, doctors called, missed removing the tumors. Get back in now.

Not covered, insurance company is pushing it back on the Doctor and hospital. Hospital wants $10K upfront cash before they will reschedule a surgery appointment.
This is what you deal with.
 
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Just left lunch with a close friend.
His young, stunning hot wife had both boobs removed nipples and all.

Then, doctors called, missed removing the tumors. Get back in now.

Not covered, insurance company is pushing it back on the Doctor and hospital, hospital wants $10K upfront cash before they will schedule a surgery appointment.
This is what you deal with.
It is on the doctors, he should pay the 10k and get it done and then sue the shit out of the hospital and the doctors
 

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Not familiar with big businesses, but it seems like CEO's go from place to place at times. How much do they know how every aspect functions? I think I read this guy came up from within, so he probably knew quite a bit, but is it always like that?
 

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Supplemental plans must pay any claim approved by Medicare. Their customer service and processing might still suck, but other than that I don’t think there’s any concern about the handling of claims.

I use Regence Blue Cross Blue Shield for my G plan, and they’ve been great. As to Kaiser, they offer only Advantage Plans in Washington, not Supplemental, and I’m guessing it’s the same everywhere.
PPO not HMO.
 

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This absolutely doesn't surprise me and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't start to be more common.

People are fed up!!

The amount of money it costs to insure a family is astronomical, and then you have the deductible on top of the insane monthly premiums. The Healthcare industry has become a fucking joke with all the layers that they have just to get a simple procedure done.

Fuck insurance companies. All they do is take, take, take and then when you need it, do whatever they can NOT to pay your claim. Meanwhile they sponsor every major sporting event, 1000 commercials a day on TV and Radio, celebrity spokespeople and multi million dollar salaries for executives. Only to deny your claim for a few thousand bucks. Fuck that!!
Insurance premiums are crazy, but it goes way beyond that. Imagine being told you’re covered, the doctor is in network, and then being denied claims. The wife has issues and spends hours on the phone trying not to get f’ed over by insurance every week. It’s insane.

I have an in network very well known and educated ENT doctor prescribing me a CT scan for my head because something has been wrong for months and insurance comes back, denies the claim, and says I need to take epsom salt baths and gargle salt water… I shit you not…
 

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I guess I’m lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it. I've had United Healthcare for over 10 years and never had a single complaint and they've probably paid close to $5 Million dollars in claims for me. Even when I wanted to go to Stanford for care, it was a non-issue and they paid every dollar without question. They assigned me a personal nurse for two years to help with my care. I can't say enough good things about United Healthcare.
 

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My wife just had a routine outpatient surgery with no device implants. The surgery took 2 hours plus recovery time. The bill was $138,276 (gotta get that extra $276). No outpatient procedure, with no implants, should cost that much. Especially a 2 hour procedure.
Must be those high California prices, I don’t think my total knee replacement cost that much in Havasu.🤣
 

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I guess I’m lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it. I've had United Healthcare for over 10 years and never had a single complaint and they've probably paid close to $5 Million dollars in claims for me. Even when I wanted to go to Stanford for care, it was a non-issue and they paid every dollar without question. They assigned me a personal nurse for two years to help with my care. I can't say enough good things about United Healthcare.

Thank yore husband for that Apple group ID number.
 

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Must be those high California prices, I don’t think my total knee replacement cost that much in Havasu.🤣
Who did your knee replacement in Havasu. My sister couldn't find someone she trusted. Lakeside Ortho. 🤦‍♂️ So she drove to Flagstaff for her surgery.
 

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Who did your knee replacement in Havasu. My sister couldn't find someone she trusted. Lakeside Ortho. 🤦‍♂️ So she drove to Flagstaff for her surgery.
Mine was done by Dr. Heiner at Lakeside orthopedics, I am happy and I’ve had no issues two years in.
 

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We had United Healthcare for over 20 years, and never had issues (new empliyer has BCBS). Although, we don't have health issues and I've paid more in premiums than gross hospital billing's in that time. Their increase in premiums has been insane. However, there is clearly a reason the stock has gone up nearly 1,200% since the Affordable Care Act was signed into law (3/22/10), and over 243,000% since IPO. Wild! Is any other health insurer even close to those stock gains?? Damn. Sucks so many of you are dealing with UHC's denial claims. Such BS.
 

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I guess I’m lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it. I've had United Healthcare for over 10 years and never had a single complaint and they've probably paid close to $5 Million dollars in claims for me. Even when I wanted to go to Stanford for care, it was a non-issue and they paid every dollar without question. They assigned me a personal nurse for two years to help with my care. I can't say enough good things about United Healthcare.
You’re in the same bucket as me.
Your UHC is company funded. Try different animal. Your wife’s company pays the bills, UHC is negotiating the rates etc.
 

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It is on the doctors, he should pay the 10k and get it done and then sue the shit out of the hospital and the doctors
Over drinks at the Nugget he said that's what he'll have to do but he was weary dealing with the Insurance & Hospital already before the phone call came and:

He owns a very busy bar in Los Angeles.
His business insurance called and asked if he has bouncers and/or a door man checking ID's.
He said yes of course, they canceled him.
Liability.

Medicare with a UHC PPO supplement that I have is the Willie Wonka Golden Ticket.

A packet arrived from My retirement medical section (GOB) and the wife is beside herself happy that now she is enrolled. Doesn't have to buy expensive COBRA. She was soooo skeptical that no way is it that good. Well, it is. When I got hired at 22 years old ya don't think about those bennies.
 
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I guess I’m lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it. I've had United Healthcare for over 10 years and never had a single complaint and they've probably paid close to $5 Million dollars in claims for me. Even when I wanted to go to Stanford for care, it was a non-issue and they paid every dollar without question. They assigned me a personal nurse for two years to help with my care. I can't say enough good things about United Healthcare.
PPO is the way to roll. I'd wager that's what you have.

Anyone with a HMO in Calif if their medical procedure is a "study" then they have to be treated as if the HMO is a PPO and the Insurance co has to pay up.
Another reason to go to University hospitals. Most everything is a study,,, it's a School.
I could write 10 web pages on my experience with that, and it's true.
 

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ABC News:
"Police believe the shooter used a B&T Station Six, known in Great Britain as a Welrod pistol, according to police sources. The gun doesn't have a silencer but does have a long barrel that enables the 9 mm to fire a nearly silent shot. The gun requires manually cycling ammunition from the magazine.

Police were able to find an image of the suspect without his face mask because he was flirting with the woman who checked him into the hostel, police sources told ABC News.

As he stood at the check-in desk, the sources said the woman asked to see his smile. The suspected shooter obliged, pulling down his mask long enough for the surveillance camera to capture his face:"
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ABC News:
"Detectives canvassed other hostels in the area and showed people the suspect's picture, sources said. Police have determined the suspect checked into an Upper West Side hostel using a New Jersey license that isn’t his, police sources told ABC News.

Rather than New Jersey, the individual has been linked most recently to Atlanta, Georgia. The shooter arrived in New York last month on a Greyhound bus from Atlanta, law enforcement sources told ABC News on Thursday."
 

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"He was named CEO of UnitedHealthcare in 2021.

Thompson was one of four UnitedHealthcare executives named in a lawsuit filed by the City of Hollywood Firefighters' Pension Fund in May regarding allegations of insider trading. The suit alleges that Thompson sold $15 million of his shares in company stock before news of the Department of Justice's antitrust investigation into UnitedHealth became public, tanking its shareholder value."
-ABC News
 
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