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Hammer said:
They did a full inventory of all molds. If it's gone it's gone, I know there was a 32' mold or there abouts when I talked to Travis Barron the other day.

240- (now 255)gone
270-gone
300- gone
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270 isn't gone? It's one of the first boats hey plan to build.
 
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Hammer said:
They did a full inventory of all molds. If it's gone it's gone, I know there was a 32' mold or there abouts when I talked to Travis Barron the other day.

240- (now 255)gone
270-gone
300- gone
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Wait the 270 is gone as well?
 
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RiverDave said:
You go off the side, not in between. Depending on setback / cav plates or tabs etc.. It wouldn't be that bad and with the OB's it would have a ton of room in the boat for seating / storage etc..

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I'm not seeing it you are going to need one of those aluminum fishing boat stand off ledges..lol

270 twin LS with the newer style swim step they are doing.:thumbsup:)
 
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IMG_20170913_131058080.jpg saw this heading out east today on Nordic truck and Hallett trailer. What is that mold for?
 
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wsuwrhr said:
:yikes
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Mandellas are the same :thumbsup When they mate the mold together and prep it with mold release i imagine they use a little wax to minimize any issues between the two halves.

Brummett 21's are similar but the mold separates top and bottom, so the deck joint isn't at the rub rail, makes for a way stronger lamination at the weak point of the boat. The deck joint is above and inboard about 2-3"
 
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Racey said:
Mandellas are the same :thumbsup When they mate the mold together and prep it with mold release i imagine they use a little wax to minimize any issues between the two halves.

Brummett 21's are similar but the mold separates top and bottom, so the deck joint isn't at the rub rail, makes for a way stronger lamination at the weak point of the boat. The deck joint is above and inboard about 2-3"
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I had to rub my eyes Racey, sorry GC, I incorrectly read the BOAT splits at the keel. not the MOLD splits at the keel.

Makes sense looking at how the boat rolls inward at where the "rubrail area" would typically be, not possible to do unless the mold splits the way it does.

After I looked at the mold going on down the road again, I see what GC was talking about.

My bad.

Brian
 
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For what it's worth, I've never seen the 300 molds.
 
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Runs2rch said:
Can't be. Jerry worked out a build for us in March right before we found a 335.
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Only telling you what I was told. Don't know anymore than that. Wouldn't make a lot of sense to me to cut up a perfectly good mold like that? But supposedly that's what they did with the 240 awhile back so who knows.

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RiverDave said:
Only telling you what I was told. Don't know anymore than that. Wouldn't make a lot of sense to me to cut up a perfectly good mold like that? But supposedly that's what they did with the 240 awhile back so who knows.

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I hear you. Agree completely. Definitely does not make sense. Bud put so many hours into tooling that when they conceived it. Jerry always said the 30 and 34 would never be scrapped.
 
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RiverDave said:
Only telling you what I was told. Don't know anymore than that. Wouldn't make a lot of sense to me to cut up a perfectly good mold like that? But supposedly that's what they did with the 240 awhile back so who knows.

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It is if you don't want anyone using the mold again or inviting competition by selling the mold. It is often done to specialized machinery at the end of its service life when someone doesn't want the possibility of competitor access to it.

Let someone splash a boat and make their "own" if they want to have a 240.
 
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Runs2rch said:
I hear you. Agree completely. Definitely does not make sense. Bud put so many hours into tooling that when they conceived it. Jerry always said the 30 and 34 would never be scrapped.
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Another thing to ponder, is maybe Hallett did not own that mold outright. Maybe they had an investor and the investor took the mold back.
 
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RiverDave said:
I'm flip flopping all over the place.. I'd love the first built 270 by Thane and John. I've always wanted one. I'd have to sell my Schiada and the toon to do it.. main thing is really don't want to sell my Schiada but as a family we have outgrown it.

Also talking to Lee about a 24 with twin outboards.
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What happened to you wanting to build a Nordic Rage? I will invite you and your family out on mine next month and you will be sold!!
 
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wsuwrhr said:
It is if you don't want anyone using the mold again or inviting competition by selling the mold. It is often done to specialized machinery at the end of its service life when someone doesn't want the possibility of competitor access to it.

Let someone splash a boat and make their "own" if they want to have a 240.
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That was basically the logic Jerry used when he described why they destroyed the 240 mold.. Granted he said it a little different with "I don't want to put some idiot in business", but throughout the conversation that's more or less what he said.

I'd find it real hard to believe that they destroyed the 300 mold though.

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What happened to you wanting to build a Nordic Rage? I will invite you and your family out on mine next month and you will be sold!!
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I was going to build a rage as a project boat for the website and then try to sell it at Desert Storm. I had a 22 Sprint which is similar to a WTOB Rage, except the rage has a little better bottom and is capable of a lot higher speeds with HP.. Ultimately that was just something I was talking about with Thane a year or two ago as a kind of promo boat.

Now that Nordic owns Hallett I'd much rather do a 270 as it's more my style and to my tastes as far as a boat goes..

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The 270 with twin SBC sounds like a very appealing all around package. Can run to catalina pretty easily, mead, havasu, Mohave, powell no problem etc. Can people still get there hands on the ilmor 570's? I had heard they stopped making them.
 
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RiverDave said:
That was basically the logic Jerry used when he described why they destroyed the 240 mold.. Granted he said it a little different with "I don't want to put some idiot in business", but throughout the conversation that's more or less what he said.


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Same same. :)
 
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steak&lobster said:
the dangerous one. . .
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I would like to here the story about these so called dangerous bottom. when I bought my 290 I talked to jerry and he said most people would not notice the difference between the two.you have to make differences to boat model years to spark new interest for new sales.i would like to see a comparison between old bottom and so called new mike peters cruiser bottom.
 
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Along the same lines....I have never tossed a "whole" set of my billet Superjet or Banshee cases.

They have left here after a date with a bandsaw, and the other complex pieces have left as chips. :)

If someone wants to knock off a set, they will have to buy a set to copy, or reverse engineer their own set. :)

I have always said it is WAAAYYYY easier to be the second guy. ;)

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ArizonaKevin said:
The 270 with twin SBC sounds like a very appealing all around package. Can run to catalina pretty easily, mead, havasu, Mohave, powell no problem etc. Can people still get there hands on the ilmor 570's? I had heard they stopped making them.
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Don't quote me on it but I believe 570's are still available, but they stopped making all the V10 based motors.
 
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River Lynchmob said:
I wonder who will be the first person to build a Hallett under Nordic's supervision? Not complete one already underway but brand new from design to water.
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Maybe I should order a new Vector!! I would about bet they could get it completely built before AJ could figure out how to finish rigging my current one :p
 
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Obviously cutting up the 240 & 300 Molds is part of the reason they were in a sell position. I mean how much does it cost to store a mold until a buyer comes along? In hindsight it was a bad business decision, along with other reasons. I personally hope that Travis does an update on the 270 and keeps the teak floors. If that happens I may be in the market.
 
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HB2Havasu said:
Obviously cutting up the 240 & 300 Molds is part of the reason they were in a sell position. I mean how much does it cost to store a mold until a buyer comes along? In hindsight it was a bad business decision, along with other reasons. I personally hope that Travis does an update on the 270 and keeps the teak floors. If that happens I may be in the market.
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They didn't cut up the 240 mold. They used to make what is now the 255. I'm certain they werent hurting for money.
 
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I hope the teak floors will still be done. I'm needing new teak in my 240 and was possibly looking at getting it done this off season at Hallett. Guess I need to wait little longer to see what happens when things settle down at Nordic.
 
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Hammer said:
They didn't cut up the 240 mold. They used to make what is now the 255. I'm sure this had more to do with not having a strong passion to build boats anymore after Nick died than it did about the finances.
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The passion was there.
 
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Hammer said:
They didn't cut up the 240 mold. They used to make what is now the 255. I'm certain they werent hurting for money.
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Hammer, that's not exactly how the process works.

I can assure you the 255 molds aren't the 240 molds cut up and pasted into the 255.

The way it would work is a 240 is added to, sculpted into what is today's 255 and molds pulled from it.

You're right, they weren't hurting for money. That's why they made the 255 and destroyed the 240.
It takes money to make money. One can charge more for a 25.5 foot boat than a 24.

It's not like they're the only mfg to ever cut up a mold.
 
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Gelcoater said:
Hammer, that's not exactly how the process works.

I can assure you the 255 molds aren't the 240 molds cut up and pasted into the 255.

The way it would work is a 240 is added to, sculpted into what is today's 255 and molds pulled from it.

You're right, they weren't hurting for money. That's why they made the 255 and destroyed the 240.
It takes money to make money. One can charge more for a 25.5 foot boat than a 24.

It's not like they're the only mfg to ever cut up a mold.
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Hey did you see the 30 I posted a few pages back? Did you spray that one?
 
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