New to me Eliminator Stoker 204

[Flying_Lavey]

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I just bought a new one a couple weeks ago. In Stock at Walmart here in town. I think most Walmarts with a boating section stock them for less than $5.

Just pump in the gas and add oil on top. Don't fill the tank completely or else you could not have enough room for the oil (done that before, transferring gas from one tank to another just to get room for the oil sucks!).

Oil and gas mixes very well. Just driving a mile gets it mixed up pretty well. And if you're still concerned about it, stop every 5 gallons and drop in the oil and keep going til you're full.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

With the wood being there though with the trailer bouncing the motor still puts stress on the transom that's why I want to look into that pole that goes from the trailer to the lower unit so most of the stress of off the transom. Damn outboards are a lot of weight hanging off the ass that's why most of these boats have transom issues which I don't want to do another one of those jobs.

Complete waste of time. Do you think driving down the street puts more stress on the transom then running the boat at 80 mph or making a turn? Not even close. I have never used one of those, just tow with the engine straight up and down, not tilted.

 

[Cgrohe223]

Didn't realize how much premix is used in a boat compared to mixing just a 5 Gallon for a dirtbike haha just went through a gallon of premix

 

[RVRKID]

Where were you heading today?[emoji1]

 

[Cgrohe223]

Where were you heading today?[emoji1]
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I believe Americas tire for tires and then took off to the river, I'm out in needles right now.

 

[RVRKID]

I believe Americas tire for tires and then took off to the river, I'm out in needles right now.

Right on have a great weekend! I just happen to be across the street from our shop walking back and saw you.

 

[Cgrohe223]

 

[Flying_Lavey]

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So... how you liking it?

 

[RitcheyRch]

Beautiful boat. I would have been all over that boat if didn't have my Stoker 201.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Didn't realize how much premix is used in a boat compared to mixing just a 5 Gallon for a dirtbike haha just went through a gallon of premix

Order it by the case on Amazon. Saw you cruising into pirates today, we were on the beach on the right.

 

[Cgrohe223]

Order it by the case on Amazon. Saw you cruising into pirates today, we were on the beach on the right.
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Ya I saw you haha hard to miss that boat

 

[Cgrohe223]

Well I can say these motors are very thirsty as well basically cruised at 4K got on it a few times and I believe I have 1/4 tank on both sides

 

[Firemanjoe]

Well I can say these motors are very thirsty as well basically cruised at 4K got on it a few times and I believe I have 1/4 tank on both sides

I have the same motor and usually cruise 4000-4500 and yes, these motors are very thirsty

 

[Cgrohe223]

I have the same motor and usually cruise 4000-4500 and yes, these motors are very thirsty

What's your motor idle at? I go to put it in gear and sometimes it will die, you can catch it by giving it a little throttle but it may be this prop too due to the pitch. And I feel like the volt meter starts to drop if your not cruising it got down to almost 10 volts and then another time I saw it almost to 14. It's only got one battery and only has a head unit with two speakers running so it shouldn't be drawing too much. I went to start it at one point and it just clicked I figured the damn battery was dead but then it started fine.

 

[Backlash]

Don't these motors have a smaller alternator? I can't remember but I thought there was an upgrade kit made by somebody..... Simon Marine or Diamond Marine.... Sorry, I can't remember offhand but that may be something you look into. I'd also add a second battery but that's just me.

 

[outboardrick]

What's your motor idle at? I go to put it in gear and sometimes it will die, you can catch it by giving it a little throttle but it may be this prop too due to the pitch. And I feel like the volt meter starts to drop if your not cruising it got down to almost 10 volts and then another time I saw it almost to 14. It's only got one battery and only has a head unit with two speakers running so it shouldn't be drawing too much. I went to start it at one point and it just clicked I figured the damn battery was dead but then it started fine.

Bypass your neutral safety switch and only start it in gear, it will save your gearcase.

 

[outboardrick]

Don't these motors have a smaller alternator? I can't remember but I thought there was an upgrade kit made by somebody..... Simon Marine or Diamond Marine.... Sorry, I can't remember offhand but that may be something you look into. I'd also add a second battery but that's just me.

The 260s have a 5 or 10 amp charging system, very important to charge the battery every night. The EFI takes 5 amps to run so you are always discharging. Once you get used to it it's no big deal, unless you run a stereo.

 

[outboardrick]

Bypass your neutral safety switch and only start it in gear, it will save your gearcase.

Simon does make an alternator conversion, which is a great thing, but you have to run an alien cowling to accommodate it. If you just get used to the boat you really don't need the alternator, unless you have a stereo :cool

 

[Cgrohe223]

Charged it before I came out and it already starts in gear too.

 

[outboardrick]

Charged it before I came out and it already starts in gear too.

You are also going to be perplexed by props...Just get a Merc ET 24 pitch and be done with it. They're expensive but it will be the best prop for your boat/engine combo. The 24 should let your motor rev to 7-7.5k which is where you want it. Don't load that motor down, it's much better to rev it.

 

[Cgrohe223]

You are also going to be perplexed by props...Just get a Merc ET 24 pitch and be done with it. They're expensive but it will be the best prop for your boat/engine combo. The 24 should let your motor rev to 7-7.5k which is where you want it. Don't load that motor down, it's much better to rev it.

Think I got to about 70 mph at 6200

 

[outboardrick]

Think I got to about 70 mph at 6200

Way under RPMs....Don't load that motor that hard, it needs to rev.

 

[Cgrohe223]

Well I have two more props gotta check the pitch, ones a four bald which I don't want and the other 3 blade is weird looking the tips of the blades are milled off

 

[BHC Vic]

Bypass your neutral safety switch and only start it in gear, it will save your gearcase.

I met a guy at pirates w a Daytona w twin 250's. I helped push him off. He said he had to start in gear I wonder if that's why

 

[outboardrick]

Well I have two more props gotta check the pitch, ones a four bald which I don't want and the other 3 blade is weird looking the tips of the blades are milled off

A lot of people will give advise on props and set up.... I love 4 blades for cruising but they won't work well on your boat. You need a lot of lift and the only prop that will do that is an ET. I have a 4 blade that you can try and it will be great for cruising but your best prop will be a 24 3 blade ET. Been there, done that.

 

[outboardrick]

I met a guy at pirates w a Daytona w twin 250's. I helped push him off. He said he had to start in gear I wonder if that's why

Yes, it's very hard on the gearcase to shift them while the motor is running. Some motors have a kill switch built into the shifter to shut off half the cylinders when you go to shift, but like any other electronic device, they fail and will shut the motor down going over rough water. Best to just eliminate it.

 

[Firemanjoe]

My motor idles just under 1k. I had issues with the motor dying when I put it in gear when it was cold (just putting away from the ramp). I tried a hand full of different props and you really do want a lighter weight 3 blade, that will help the problem. sometimes I have to give mine a little throttle right after I put it in gear, I don't do it before because I don't like to be hard in the gear case.

I tend to run a lower pitch prop most of the time to help with holeshot. we use ours more as a family with the kids and a cooler, so I'm not too concerend with top speed.

I also don't have a stereo if any kind in the boat so the battery is just for he motor. I'm a big fan of the Bluetooth speakers.

 

[Cgrohe223]

The prop I was running today not sure of the pitch

 

[Firemanjoe]

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The prop I was running today not sure of the pitch

The pitch and diameter are probably stamped near the hub that goes up against the thrust washer.

 

[Cgrohe223]

The pitch and diameter are probably stamped near the hub that goes up against the thrust washer.

Ya ill have to pull it off and check

 

[outboardrick]

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The prop I was running today not sure of the pitch

That's a large blade chopper with a lot of cup. Good prop but probably too tall for what you need. There will be a stamp on the side or one end of the prop, shaft end, that will have the pitch.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Yeah start in gear as much as you can, much easier on the gear case

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Played with this today.....slow but awesome acceleration

 

[DLow]

Was the 70 at 6200 WOT? Do you have a hydraulic jack plate? That is another big learning curve on these if so. With the engine buried too low, you will never see the speed or rpm it is capable of. Also, with it set to low, you will most likely start picking up a big hop above 65-70. Even with hydraulic steering, when you get the motor high enough you will start to feel a little torque steer and a slight vibration through the boat. This is when you know the prop is starting to surface like it should. Keep an eye on the water pressure gauge, but i'd imagine that the boat will be safe at all heights with as much as it has been ran. This isn't a new crazy out of the box setup. It's been proven. A 24 sounds right for that motor on that hull and I bet that is what you have, you just need to learn more about driving the boat. I'm not saying this as an insult. Seat time is important in any new boat, especially one that works on air entrapment. Give it time.

 

[outboardrick]

Played with this today.....slow but awesome acceleration

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Walt, I have a specially made Mazco 24 pitch 4 blade that you can try if you'd like. It was made for Rick Gilman to drag race...It's quicker to 80 than an ET but drops off at top end.

 

[Cgrohe223]

Played with this today.....slow but awesome acceleration

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That thing prop looks huge. But if I trim up I notice I can start getting the rpm a little higher maybe by 300 but I don't know how the drive is sitting in the water

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Walt, I have a specially made Mazco 24 pitch 4 blade that you can try if you'd like. It was made for Rick Gilman to drag race...It's quicker to 80 than an ET but drops off at top end.

That would be cool to try, might over rev since 24 is kind of small, usually run 28's

 

[outboardrick]

That thing prop looks huge. But if I trim up I notice I can start getting the rpm a little higher maybe by 300 but I don't know how the drive is sitting in the water

When the boat is on the trailer you want to run a straight edge across the bottom to the nose/prop shaft of the gear case when it's trimmed level to the bottom. On your boat you'll want the drive shaft about 1/2 inch below the bottom.

 

[Cgrohe223]

 

[outboardrick]

That would be cool to try, might over rev since 24 is kind of small, usually run 28's

And I just remembered that you have a big shaft
My props are small shafts. And the new motors don't rev like the old ones, so you're correct for running the larger props :thumbsup

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

And I just remembered that you have a big shaft
My props are small shafts. And the new motors don't rev like the old ones, so you're correct for running the larger props :thumbsup

It's all about diameter

 

[outboardrick]

It's all about diameter

Thin will get ya in, but fat is where its at :cool

 

[Cgrohe223]

Was the 70 at 6200 WOT? Do you have a hydraulic jack plate? That is another big learning curve on these if so. With the engine buried too low, you will never see the speed or rpm it is capable of. Also, with it set to low, you will most likely start picking up a big hop above 65-70. Even with hydraulic steering, when you get the motor high enough you will start to feel a little torque steer and a slight vibration through the boat. This is when you know the prop is starting to surface like it should. Keep an eye on the water pressure gauge, but i'd imagine that the boat will be safe at all heights with as much as it has been ran. This isn't a new crazy out of the box setup. It's been proven. A 24 sounds right for that motor on that hull and I bet that is what you have, you just need to learn more about driving the boat. I'm not saying this as an insult. Seat time is important in any new boat, especially one that works on air entrapment. Give it time.

It's got a manual jack plate, but i do know what you mean by vibration cause I felt it and I lowered it back down a little

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Walt, I have a specially made Mazco 24 pitch 4 blade that you can try if you'd like. It was made for Rick Gilman to drag race...It's quicker to 80 than an ET but drops off at top end.

I'm running the same prop. It was labbed for my boat.

 

[Faceaz]

With the wood being there though with the trailer bouncing the motor still puts stress on the transom that's why I want to look into that pole that goes from the trailer to the lower unit so most of the stress of off the transom. Damn outboards are a lot of weight hanging off the ass that's why most of these boats have transom issues which I don't want to do another one of those jobs.

If you can put the engine vertical, that's best. If you need to trailer with it trimmed, use the pole. On some engines the trim cylinder is hard mounted to the mid & wont bounce much. But some are free floating & only push against the trim cylinders - those engines can get a huge bounce & I'd always use the pole.

 

[Rvrluvr]

Those motors like rpm. Kinda weird to get used to but the higher the better. Think of it lime riding a Banchee at glamis. Stay on the pipe. Run cooler and better. The 260's dont charge for shit. I tjink they have a generator not alternator but I could be wrong. I know they dont charge very well.

 

[Cgrohe223]

Do these motors have alarms on them? I was under the dash wiring up the gauge lights and I noticed the beeper that I have read up on that is suppose to beep once when the ignition is turned on. I took a test light to see if it had power and when I touch the brown/green wire it beeps so I know it works? Does it only beep when their is a problem

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Do these motors have alarms on them? I was under the dash wiring up the gauge lights and I noticed the beeper that I have read up on that is suppose to beep once when the ignition is turned on. I took a test light to see if it had power and when I touch the brown/green wire it beeps so I know it works? Does it only beep when their is a problem

The beep should go off when you turn key to know it's working. It will go off if your oil is low or temp is running high.

 

[Cgrohe223]

The beep should go off when you turn key to know it's working. It will go off if your oil is low or temp is running high.

Their is no beep at all

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Their is no beep at all

I would look into that.