Mexico is safe

[boatpi]

2 dead after shootout between alleged drug gangs near Cancun resorts

Two people are dead after a shooting involving alleged drug gangs in a Mexico resort zone Thursday afternoon, authorities said. The shooting occurred on a beach in Puerto Morelos, south of Cancun, during a confrontation between alleged members of rival groups of drug dealers, according to a...

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Two weeks ago.. https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/california-travel-blogger-killed-mexicos-tulum-80737541

 

[94essex]

Uh oh I'm going to rocky point in a couple weeks

 

[oldschool]

Uh oh I'm going to rocky point in a couple weeks

Don’t confront any rival drug dealers and you should be fine.

 

[HALLETT BOY]

Still safer than ANY of our major cites

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

The location of the most recent one is the scary thing. Usually they seem to stay away from the hotel zone. Out in the jungles is one thing, but this….

 

[dribble]

The same thing just happened eight miles from my house.

 

[HitIt]

Mexico is safe much like COVID is safe. ~99.5% of the time you are fine. The other ~0.5% of the time you get dead.

 

[Boat 405]

Been to various areas in Mexico for the past 20 years, never had a problem. They have murders in the US too ya know.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

I'll take my chances in mexico

 

[JDKRXW]

Going to P.V. in 5 days.
Maybe I should cancel

 

[Tank]

You guys comparing the US to Mexico are funny. Mexico as a nation is rated 2nd in the world per capita for murder rate and has a 98% higher murder rate than the U.S.
Not to mention, not many people vacationing in shit hole parts of Chicago, or New York.

The old "this part of mexico is safe" response is all good until, it isn't safe (as shown in this article). And you don't need to engage with drug dealers or be around cartels to take some stray bullet to the dome during a cartel shoot out.

The country is run by cartels and crooked politicians, is funded by drug money, is owned by criminals. Cartels don't give two shits about resorts, or tourists or anything else and is slowly encroaching into the "but this part is safe" areas. This same type incident happened a couple years ago at a high end beach resort.

You can have that shit, I choose to vacation places that people aren't routinely getting their heads chopped off and kidnapped and the police bribe you when you go to the store and random cartel shoot-outs or anywhere where I have to "be smart and aware of your surroundings and you'll be fine" is the motto.

 

[Universal Elements]

You guys comparing the US to Mexico are funny. Mexico as a nation is rated 2nd in the world per capita for murder rate and has a 98% higher murder rate than the U.S.
Not to mention, not many people vacationing in shit hole parts of Chicago, or New York.

The old "this part of mexico is safe" response is all good until, it isn't safe (as shown in this article). And you don't need to engage with drug dealers or be around cartels to take some stray bullet to the dome during a cartel shoot out.

The country is run by cartels and crooked politicians, is funded by drug money, is owned by criminals. Cartels don't give two shits about resorts, or tourists or anything else and is slowly encroaching into the "but this part is safe" areas. This same type incident happened a couple years ago at a high end beach resort.

You can have that shit, I choose to vacation places that people aren't routinely getting their heads chopped off and kidnapped and the police bribe you when you go to the store and random cartel shoot-outs or anywhere where I have to "be smart and aware of your surroundings and you'll be fine" is the motto.

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“The country is run by cartels and crooked politicians,”

Sounds like the good old present USA

At least in Mexico, you know what’s up.

 

[nowski]

There's a reason why Kamala and Sleezy Joe won't visiting Mexico anytime soon...

 

[Tank]

“The country is run by cartels and crooked politicians,”

Sounds like the good old present USA

At least in Mexico, you know what’s up.

When you say "cartels" you mean big pharma and big tech and you're right. When you say "crooked politicians", well, that's redundant.

But really, comparing Mexican cartels to big tech and pharma is like saying a 190 Bayliner with a 125 outboard is the same as a 50' Skater with 1550 mercs. I mean, they're both boats right?

politics are politics. Saying all politics are the same is fool-hearty.

 

[steamin rice]

You guys comparing the US to Mexico are funny. Mexico as a nation is rated 2nd in the world per capita for murder rate and has a 98% higher murder rate than the U.S.
Not to mention, not many people vacationing in shit hole parts of Chicago, or New York.

The old "this part of mexico is safe" response is all good until, it isn't safe (as shown in this article). And you don't need to engage with drug dealers or be around cartels to take some stray bullet to the dome during a cartel shoot out.

The country is run by cartels and crooked politicians, is funded by drug money, is owned by criminals. Cartels don't give two shits about resorts, or tourists or anything else and is slowly encroaching into the "but this part is safe" areas. This same type incident happened a couple years ago at a high end beach resort.

You can have that shit, I choose to vacation places that people aren't routinely getting their heads chopped off and kidnapped and the police bribe you when you go to the store and random cartel shoot-outs or anywhere where I have to "be smart and aware of your surroundings and you'll be fine" is the motto.

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I fully agree and have been saying this for years. We have lots of friends who go to Mexico and they love it. I just know that I would not be able to relax, knowing that the cartels don't have a problem having shootouts in the middle of tourist areas.

In the US, I don't vacation in shitty areas, and it's usually pretty easy to determine if an area is relatively safe or unsafe. In Mexico it seems like any area can turn very unsafe in an instant.

 

[RiverDave]

When you say "cartels" you mean big pharma and big tech and you're right. When you say "crooked politicians", well, that's redundant.

But really, comparing Mexican cartels to big tech and pharma is like saying a 190 Bayliner with a 125 outboard is the same as a 50' Skater with 1550 mercs. I mean, they're both boats right?

politics are politics. Saying all politics are the same is fool-hearty.

I remember when El Chapo started listing off some of the politicians he donated to in the USA.. court room doors closed immediately.. lol


I’m not entirely sure our country is any better at this point

 

[Tank]

I remember when El Chapo started listing off some of the politicians he donated to in the USA.. court room doors closed immediately.. lol


I’m not entirely sure our country is any better at this point

Half the reason the Mexican cartels have so much power in Mexico now is because of help for the U.S. Zero doubt about that. But like Greg said above, I'd rather not go to a place that can turn into a cartel shoot out at any point and frequently does, regardless of US vs Mexico.

However, your trip looked amazing! LOL I just wish mexico was like it was pre, say 1995 ish. .25 cent tacos, .50 cent coronas. Nice beach front hotel for $20 a night. The absolute worse thing you had to worry about was being pulled over and shook down for $20 from the federales. Prices at these resort towns are the same as prices in South Florida, Bahamas, Hawaii, etc. I see no need to go to Mexico AT ALL.

 

[RiverDave]

Half the reason the Mexican cartels have so much power in Mexico now is because of help for the U.S. Zero doubt about that. But like Greg said above, I'd rather not go to a place that can turn into a cartel shoot out at any point and frequently does, regardless of US vs Mexico.

Have you watched that documentary “The last Narc” on Netflix? Crazy..

 

[Tank]

Have you watched that documentary “The last Narc” on Netflix? Crazy..

No. But I will. Kelly's been all into the cartel docs and shows lately LOL

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Half the reason the Mexican cartels have so much power in Mexico now is because of help for the U.S. Zero doubt about that. But like Greg said above, I'd rather not go to a place that can turn into a cartel shoot out at any point and frequently does, regardless of US vs Mexico.

So you dont walk down the street anywhere in the US that possible gang violence could acure? Shit is the same everywhere! Life could be taken at anytime. I spent a night in long beach 2yrs ago to catch the ferry to Catalina the next morning. I felt more unsafe walking to the store that night then I ever have in mexico. Granted we dont go walking dark alleys while in mexico either.

 

[Tank]

So you dont walk down the street anywhere in the US that possible gang violence could acure? Shit is the same everywhere! Life could be taken at anytime. I spent a night in long beach 2yrs ago to catch the ferry to Catalina the next morning. I felt more unsafe walking to the store that night then I ever have in mexico. Granted we dont go walking dark alleys while in mexico either.

When's the last time you saw a drug shootout at the Newport Hyatt or the Mission Bay Hotel in SD? Or anywhere in Key West? The Sandals resort in Nassau? The Royal Kona Hawaiin Resort in Hawaii? You haven't because there never has been one. Risk vs reward.

I won't go to Chicago because the crime and the way its run. I wont go to Portland because of the crime and the way it's run. etc.

In life, there's measured risk. For me 1) risk aint worth the reward when I can enjoy the same experience elsewhere 2) I wont spend a dime in that shit hole corrupt, fucked up county.


I always like to point to exhibit A) when discussing mexico and tourist spots. Acapulco. Once the #1 tourist destination in Mexico (and the world). Now listed as one of the top 5 deadliest beaches in the world.

I'd rather not be lounging on the beach drinking a margarita at Cancun or porta viallarta or wherever else in mexico when it becomes the new Acapulco

 

[94essex]

Going to P.V. in 5 days.
Maybe I should cancel

Was in Puerta viarta in March it was perfect

 

[Blubyu]

Headed to Puerto Vallarta tomorrow, hopefully, I make it back!

 

[traquer]

You guys can have Mexico. I fell in love with Thailand and have been 3x already. It's all the good aspects of Mexico and none of the bad. Thai food is right up there with mexican as one of my favs.

 

[shintoooo]

You guys can have Mexico. I fell in love with Thailand and have been 3x already. It's all the good aspects of Mexico and none of the bad. Thai food is right up there with mexican as one of my favs.

The only thing you have to be worried about in Thailand is an Adam’s apple.

 

[traquer]

The only thing you have to be worried about in Thailand is an Adam’s apple.

Lol that's the equivalent argument of getting shot in Mexico. It's a remote possibility, but still a possibility.

 

[DWC]

I'll take my chances in mexico

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People are still going to Chicago for vacation? F that

 

[boatpi]

Can’t beat Hawaii or better yet Bali. Or, the ultimate for a great price, Racha Island Thailand.

 

[schweeng]

Last month pulled over by the police in La Paz.... where drove there from Cabo... looked around and were heading back.. about 2 miles outside of the city we saw lights behind us..... after a bit of back and forth with our spanglish.... it was 4000 pesos and come back tomorrow to the station and we hold you license OR pay 2000 pesos now... great reduction...its a deal!!! Only we had just spent all of our cash hours earlier on crap... So we were basically told to follow him to a ATM... scary part was when he took us on a dirt road.... oh shit pucker went in over drive..... turns out he had a little area that he probably takes everyone to to pay the "fine".... loosely said.

talk about being uncomfortable and helpless....

 

[DILLIGAF]

F MEXICO....Will keep my money in the USA

 

[Dalton]

I would say cartels and the corrupt gov people of Mexico do care about resorts, they need to keep up the facade of a somewhat normal functioning country. There are some good value things to be had in MX, of course there’s better in the world but not as close. I love it down there for a quick getaway.

I bet who ever perpetrated this will face punishment, either through the legal system or extrajudicially.

 

[PlanB]

Last month pulled over by the police in La Paz.... where drove there from Cabo... looked around and were heading back.. about 2 miles outside of the city we saw lights behind us..... after a bit of back and forth with our spanglish.... it was 4000 pesos and come back tomorrow to the station and we hold you license OR pay 2000 pesos now... great reduction...its a deal!!! Only we had just spent all of our cash hours earlier on crap... So we were basically told to follow him to a ATM... scary part was when he took us on a dirt road.... oh shit pucker went in over drive..... turns out he had a little area that he probably takes everyone to to pay the "fine".... loosely said.

talk about being uncomfortable and helpless....

This is why I don't go to Mexico anymore. At least in the U.S. you are not getting rolled by LE for bribe money. On top of that, a lot of the LE down there is connected to the cartel's.

 

[SixD9R]

It’s not the cheapest place you can go but Aruba is pretty dam nice and very safe.
Another advantage is very little rain and no hurricanes so you don’t have to worry about your hard earned vacation becoming a wash out.

 

[retaocleg]

still go there for ivermectin and a zpac

 

[DWC]

When's the last time you saw a drug shootout at the Newport Hyatt or the Mission Bay Hotel in SD? Or anywhere in Key West? The Sandals resort in Nassau? The Royal Kona Hawaiin Resort in Hawaii? You haven't because there never has been one. Risk vs reward.

I won't go to Chicago because the crime and the way its run. I wont go to Portland because of the crime and the way it's run. etc.

In life, there's measured risk. For me 1) risk aint worth the reward when I can enjoy the same experience elsewhere 2) I wont spend a dime in that shit hole corrupt, fucked up county.


I always like to point to exhibit A) when discussing mexico and tourist spots. Acapulco. Once the #1 tourist destination in Mexico (and the world). Now listed as one of the top 5 deadliest beaches in the world.

I'd rather not be lounging on the beach drinking a margarita at Cancun or porta viallarta or wherever else in mexico when it becomes the new Acapulco

I’m not sure how much more Hawaii but it’s worth every penny for piece of mind. Plus @HNL2LHC has a RDP special where he buys dinner. It’s a win/win.

 

[TPC]

At the Mexico border.
As you step outta the USA you give up your Civil Rights,, as you step into Mexico you give up your human rights.

 

[retaocleg]

At the Mexico border.
As you step outta the USA you give up your Civil Rights,, as you step into Mexico you give up your human rights.

.....ummm, dont have to go there for that it's right here, if you look closely

 

[HNL2LHC]

I’m not sure how much more Hawaii but it’s worth every penny for piece of mind. Plus @HNL2LHC has a RDP special where he buys dinner. It’s a win/win.

Even willing to walk miles to buy them their dinners if needed. LOL Good times!!!!!

 

[CarolynandBob]

So you dont walk down the street anywhere in the US that possible gang violence could acure? Shit is the same everywhere! Life could be taken at anytime. I spent a night in long beach 2yrs ago to catch the ferry to Catalina the next morning. I felt more unsafe walking to the store that night then I ever have in mexico. Granted we dont go walking dark alleys while in mexico either.

In the USA I can at least shoot back.

 

[Dalton]

This is why I don't go to Mexico anymore. At least in the U.S. you are not getting rolled by LE for bribe money. On top of that, a lot of the LE down there is connected to the cartel's.

Where would you rather get a DUI between the two?

 

[Wayn-o]

This will show you what happens with the cartel folks daily.

Borderland Beat

Blog dedicated to the reporting of organized crime<br> on the border line between the US and Mexico.

www.borderlandbeat.com

 

[Mark G]

2 dead after shootout between alleged drug gangs near Cancun resorts

Two people are dead after a shooting involving alleged drug gangs in a Mexico resort zone Thursday afternoon, authorities said. The shooting occurred on a beach in Puerto Morelos, south of Cancun, during a confrontation between alleged members of rival groups of drug dealers, according to a...

www.yahoo.com

Two weeks ago.. https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/california-travel-blogger-killed-mexicos-tulum-80737541

LA's up to 1500+ gunshot victims this year alone. I think the Cartels have a better hit percentage involving their targets.

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

Why go all the way to Mexico when you can see everything Mexico has to offer right here in L.A.? Fuck that shithole! And if you’ve never been to Guatemala, El Salvador or Honduras save yourself the 4-5 hour flight and drive through South Central Los Angeles. It looks pretty much the same.

 

[Meaney77]

No. But I will. Kelly's been all into the cartel docs and shows lately LOL

Not sure why but I am totally fascinated with drug cartel shows and documentaries...good shit!

 

[PlanB]

Where would you rather get a DUI between the two?

I don't want to be in the Mexican judicial system at all, no matter what the charge.

 

[Tank]

Not sure why but I am totally fascinated with drug cartel shows and documentaries...good shit!

Seems like everyone is! There’s endless documentaries on them on prime and Netflix and Hulu.

Just watched FBI most wanted show last night on Netflix and it was on el Mayo who I guess was El Chapo’s boss. Still at large. Still running Sinaloa cartel. They tried to flush him out by taking his kids into custody and the cartels declared war on the Mexico govt / military. Killed all kinds of citizens. Govt backed down said they were done going after drug lords.

Yeah, great country! Really a place I want to go.

 

[Mark G]

Not sure why but I am totally fascinated with drug cartel shows and documentaries...good shit!

Have you checked out Borderlandbeat? Amazing what's going on down there! Straight civil war..

 

[oldschool]

Seems like everyone is! There’s endless documentaries on them on prime and Netflix and Hulu.

Just watched FBI most wanted show last night on Netflix and it was on el Mayo who I guess was El Chapo’s boss. Still at large. Still running Sinaloa cartel. They tried to flush him out by taking his kids into custody and the cartels declared war on the Mexico govt / military. Killed all kinds of citizens. Govt backed down said they were done going after drug lords.

Yeah, great country! Really a place I want to go.

But the weathers great!

 

[Meaney77]

Have you checked out Borderlandbeat? Amazing what's going on down there! Straight civil war..

I have not, where can I find it?

 

[Mark G]

I have not, where can I find it?

I Google "Border Land Beat." Its a narco blog that doesn't miss anything down there. Wild stuff!! There's gory, beheading videos but I pass those up. There if you want to watch.