Mexico is safe

[rrrr]

How many of those are suicides?

“Firearm deaths” is the dumbest catch all statistic, and it is still a drop in the bucket. Compared to a dozen other causes of death.

What does that matter regarding the purpose of my post? I stated the firearm death rate in Texas has remained essentially unchanged for two decades, which is accurate. Your comment is completely irrelevant.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What does that matter regarding the purpose of my post? I stated the firearm death rate in Texas has remained essentially unchanged for two decades, which is accurate. Your comment is completely irrelevant.

Its completely relevant as the stat was used to justify that gun violence is everywhere, and “it is just like the US”, was it not? I don’t think anyone has to fear gun “gun violence via suicide” in Texas.. especially gun violence via suicide by cartels in Texas.

Your math while sound, also most certainly reflects suicides as well, which are not gun violence, and are becoming more prevalent in recent years across the board.

 

[rrrr]

Its completely relevant as the stat was used to justify that gun violence is everywhere, and “it is just like the US”, was it not?

No, it was used for the purpose stated, which was that the firearm death rate in the state of Texas has remained essentially unchanged for 20 years. This was in response to the graph posted by @TCHB, which I assume was done to imply Texas was much more dangerous than it was two decades ago.

I don't deal in innuendo or suggestion, I say what was intended to be communicated.

 

[TCHB]

The population in Texas has grown from about 20 million to 30 million since 2000. Current information from the Centers for Disease Control says the firearm death rate was 14.2 per 100,000 in 2021.

Using only the 2021 rate number, that means in 2000 the firearm mortality rate would have been 200 X 14.2, or 2,840. In 2021, it would have been 300 X 14.2, or 4,260.

My calculations obviously aren't the same as your graph, because I'm using a simplistic method to prove something, which is that the Texas firearm death mortality rate over the last 21 years has remained essentially flat. The rise in numbers killed is related to population growth, not an increase in gun violence.

How many of those are suicides?

“Firearm deaths” is the dumbest catch all statistic, and it is still a drop in the bucket. Compared to a dozen other causes of death.

Texas – Rate of All Gun Deaths per 100,000 People

In Texas, the annual rate of all gun deaths per 100,000 population is... (open to display chart). Armed violence reduction, development, guns and peace.

www.gunpolicy.org

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Texas – Rate of All Gun Deaths per 100,000 People

In Texas, the annual rate of all gun deaths per 100,000 population is... (open to display chart). Armed violence reduction, development, guns and peace.

www.gunpolicy.org

That is a useless statistic as it relates to safety. A person that kills themselves with a gun is 99.9999% no danger to the general public.

6 people per 100k die from actual gun “violence” in Texas. Suicides make up more than half of Texas gun deaths.

I’m sure that aligns perfectly with Mexico, which is like every city in the US.

https://everystat.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Gun-Violence-in-Texas.pdf

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

No, it was used for the purpose stated, which was that the firearm death rate in the state of Texas has remained essentially unchanged for 20 years. This was in response to the graph posted by @TCHB, which I assume was done to imply Texas was much more dangerous than it was two decades ago.

I don't deal in innuendo or suggestion, I say what was intended to be communicated.

If you read his posts, that was the intent.. to imply that it is just as dangerous in the US as it is in Mexico.

I’m arguing your point here. Violent homicides by gun are not the same as suicide by gun.

 

[Taboma]

Its completely relevant as the stat was used to justify that gun violence is everywhere, and “it is just like the US”, was it not? I don’t think anyone has to fear gun “gun violence via suicide” in Texas.. especially gun violence via suicide by cartels in Texas.

Your math while sound, also most certainly reflects suicides as well, which are not gun violence, and are becoming more prevalent in recent years across the board.

Here it is broken down into each category ---- https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/texas#rate_of_all_gun_deaths_per_100_000_people

 

[River Runnin]

Mexico is safe -- Just like Russian Roulette with one empty cylinder!​

 

[cofooter]

You scaredy cats can just stay at home where it safe!

 

[shintoooo]

Oh God

 

[stephenkatsea]

My Dad and Mom were robbed at gunpoint returning from San Quintin. They loved it down there. They were in their 70s when they were pulled over and robbed by uniformed Mex LEOS. After dozens of trips down there, that was it. No more. Done. My Dad wouldn’t talk much about it. My Mom said he was embarrassed. He passed in 1989. I’m sure things are probably much better there now . . . . . ?? Ya think . .

 

[just_floatin]

Sadly only two of the four innocent American tourist survived. That must be one heck of a cosmetic surgeon.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Oh God

It’s “Oh Dios”

 

[riverroyal]

Sadly only two of the four innocent American tourist survived. That must be one heck of a cosmetic surgeon.
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These are the 4???? Wtf. Please don't take this as racist but African Americans 'probably' don't cross into this town often, or ever.
Red flags for locals right away. Calls were made to guys 'running' the city. These guys went into action which is no surprise.
There are places you just don't go. I wouldn't go to south Chicago, I wouldn't live to talk about it.

 

[rrrr]

It’s “Oh Dios”

"Ay, Dios mio."

 

[rrrr]

These are the 4???? Wtf. Please don't take this as racist but African Americans 'probably' don't cross into this town often, or ever.
Red flags for locals right away. Calls were made to guys 'running' the city. These guys went into action which is no surprise.
There are places you just don't go. I wouldn't go to south Chicago, I wouldn't live to talk about it.

I don't know what to think about this. If you look at the photo of the van, it's jammed up against a SUV on the right side and had been hit by another vehicle on the left side. It was a forced stop with immediate gunfire. These people were violently attacked by cartelistas in more than one vehicle, and it really doesn't make sense.

I think it's time for the United States government to inform Mexico's president we are going to clean out the cartels whether they like it or not. It's fucking crazy to have a narcoterrorist state on our southern border, especially considering the fentanyl trafficking.

Of course my opinion is a fantasy. The bumbling fool running our country has no intention of doing anything about the border or Mexico's criminal hierarchy, which includes the entire government.

 

[just_floatin]

These are the 4???? Wtf. Please don't take this as racist but African Americans 'probably' don't cross into this town often, or ever.
Red flags for locals right away. Calls were made to guys 'running' the city. These guys went into action which is no surprise.
There are places you just don't go. I wouldn't go to south Chicago, I wouldn't live to talk about it.

Another view of the four Americans in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[BIGRED9158]

Another view of the four Americans in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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They are a certain race will we have riots

 

[riverroyal]

Another view of the four Americans in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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These 4 show up in a murdering drug town and they are there for plastic surgery.
Ok.
Red flags all over. 3 guys and 1 female for a procedure? The cartel saw a threat and did what they do.
These guys have eyes all over. The same result would happen regardless of race.
It looks suspicious and the cartel is not ok with suspicious in their lawless city.

 

[cofooter]

These 4 show up in a murdering drug town and they are there for plastic surgery.
Ok.
Red flags all over. 3 guys and 1 female for a procedure? The cartel saw a threat and did what they do.
These guys have eyes all over. The same result would happen regardless of race.
It looks suspicious and the cartel is not ok with suspicious in their lawless city.

Agree there is more to the story....

 

[just_floatin]

Know the risk before traveling abroad. Not all countries are “Inclusive.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632313087071010816

 

[Joker]

Same people

 

[Outdrive1]

Fuck Mexico

 

[monkeyswrench]

Another view of the four Americans in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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On "Borderland Beat", there are pics of the 2 deceased, in what appears to be a shed. It also appears as one of the 2 may be stripped naked...which is not typical hostage/ransom deal.

 

[Socalx09]

I have felt very safe in Cabo. I have been to other tourist towns in Mexico, but choose to only go to Cabo now. Feels less exposed than mainland Mexico. I’m sure there are many dangers there. We mostly stay to our resort. I normally go to the same restaurants downtown. We don’t wear flashy clothes, jewelry, etc. There’s always a risk. I wouldn’t want to go with anyone that could cause trouble or a “someone that likes to get into fights when drinking.”

As far as cleaning up the cartels, it’s never going to happen in my opinion. It doesn’t matter who the President of the United States is. It’s so deeply rooted in Mexico and who knows how deeply rooted it is in the United States as well.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I don't know what to think about this. If you look at the photo of the van, it's jammed up against a SUV on the right side and had been hit by another vehicle on the left side. It was a forced stop with immediate gunfire. These people were violently attacked by cartelistas in more than one vehicle, and it really doesn't make sense.

I think it's time for the United States government to inform Mexico's president we are going to clean out the cartels whether they like it or not. It's fucking crazy to have a narcoterrorist state on our southern border, especially considering the fentanyl trafficking.

Of course my opinion is a fantasy. The bumbling fool running our country has no intention of doing anything about the border or Mexico's criminal hierarchy, which includes the entire government.

I think it is telling that if this event occured 1/4 mile to the north it would be considered a mass shooting, and likely racially motivated, the media would be all over it for a month. Congressmen and women would grandstand and call for more gun controll and dialogs about race and equity. The weekend talking head shows would roll that into expanding the Supreme Court or admitting new states into the union. The "thoughts and prayers" jokes would be rolled out on late night talk shows...

But in Mexico that is a Monday.

We are so insulated to what goes on day in and day out in other parts of the world. Parts that are just and easy walk from parts of this country.

 

[shreve"T"]

These 4 show up in a murdering drug town and they are there for plastic surgery.
Ok.
Red flags all over. 3 guys and 1 female for a procedure? The cartel saw a threat and did what they do.
These guys have eyes all over. The same result would happen regardless of race.
It looks suspicious and the cartel is not ok with suspicious in their lawless city.

I said this right out of the gate !!! Something just doesn't add up at all !!!

 

[just_floatin]

On "Borderland Beat", there are pics of the 2 deceased, in what appears to be a shed. It also appears as one of the 2 may be stripped naked...which is not typical hostage/ransom deal.

Mexican news on Borderland Beat report mistaken identity while the cartel posted on social media they were protecting their territory from Haitians. I am going with wrong place, wrong time, wrong ethnicity.

One thing is certain, the cartels shoot first and ask questions last. Especially true if you resemble someone from the Caribbean islands.

What We Know about the Kidnapping of Americans in Matamoros

"HEARST" for Borderland Beat New details about the Americans' trip to Mexico and the cartel context surrounding their kidnapping by Gulf Ca...

www.borderlandbeat.com

 

[monkeyswrench]

Mexican news on Borderland Beat report mistaken identity while the cartel posted on social media they were protecting their territory from Haitians. I am going with wrong place, wrong time, wrong ethnicity.

One thing is certain, the cartels shoot first and ask questions last. Especially true if you resemble someone from the Caribbean islands.
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What We Know about the Kidnapping of Americans in Matamoros

"HEARST" for Borderland Beat New details about the Americans' trip to Mexico and the cartel context surrounding their kidnapping by Gulf Ca...

www.borderlandbeat.com

Yep, I resemble a white guy with a tan, so I may be a target.
Nope, not going. Still haven't sprinted across to pick up meds yet

 

[was thatguy]

I don't know what to think about this. If you look at the photo of the van, it's jammed up against a SUV on the right side and had been hit by another vehicle on the left side. It was a forced stop with immediate gunfire. These people were violently attacked by cartelistas in more than one vehicle, and it really doesn't make sense.

I think it's time for the United States government to inform Mexico's president we are going to clean out the cartels whether they like it or not. It's fucking crazy to have a narcoterrorist state on our southern border, especially considering the fentanyl trafficking.

Of course my opinion is a fantasy. The bumbling fool running our country has no intention of doing anything about the border or Mexico's criminal hierarchy, which includes the entire government.

The Sinaloa cartel alone averages $40 billion a year in U.S. revenue, by most estimates.
There will be no cleaning out of anything.
Granted, it’s no Ukraine, but as the number one customer for these cartels it’s not likely this revenue stream will be interrupted by the US. There is far too many dollars at stake.

Oh, and tummy tuck my ass, they went to cut a deal and try to take over dope in their home town by direct sourcing, and some one said no.

 

[Badchoices03]

The Sinaloa cartel alone averages $40 billion a year in U.S. revenue, by most estimates.
There will be no cleaning out of anything.
Granted, it’s no Ukraine, but as the number one customer for these cartels it’s not likely this revenue stream will be interrupted by the US. There is far too many dollars at stake.

Oh, and tummy tuck my ass, they went to cut a deal and try to take over dope in their home town by direct sourcing, and some one said no.

Why is everything a conspiracy? People go to Mexico ALL the time for cosmetic surgery, its not unheard of....and hell even someone on this site has a horrible story about being robbed and kidnapped in Mexico...I have a story about my brother and his girlfriend as wel...it happens, its not the first time, its not the last time...

 

[Outdrive1]

Look at that chick, she wasn’t getting a tummy tuck. Bitch is so ugly, it wouldn’t have made a difference. They were 100 percent there to buy drugs.

 

[was thatguy]

Why is everything a conspiracy? People go to Mexico ALL the time for cosmetic surgery, its not unheard of....and hell even someone on this site has a horrible story about being robbed and kidnapped in Mexico...I have a story about my brother and his girlfriend as wel...it happens, its not the first time, its not the last time...

Who said it was a conspiracy?

 

[DLow]

Who said it was a conspiracy?

Truth is always a conspiracy to those who can’t believe it.

 

[Yldboyz]

I have a vendor that goes to TJ every other week when he calls on the SD area, he's always trying to get us to go down there with him and goes as far as throwing in a few hookers. No Way Jose! I'm not going back there, I've heard way too many stories...

 

[Outdrive1]

Locals saying it wasn’t that, but it was something….they weren’t “caught in the crossfire”

Anything is possible, I’m just speculating. It looks fishy

 

[Waterjunky]

Rio de Janeiro?

Yup.....
Well aware of the stats also.

 

[FCT]

Yup.....
Well aware of the stats also.

Yeah Rio is a Beautiful shit hole I love Brasil and after 3 years of living there I never had one problem. If something Happens or you need something please let me know. I have friends everywhere in Brasil and would be happy to help.

 

[Waterjunky]

Good to know! The wife and I are going down for a week. She is speaking at a conference. We are adding a few days to the beginning to play tourist. We are doing the known beaches, a few organized tours, generally staying in the better end of the tourist areas. Eating way too much good food.
We have done a few trips to other areas in Brazil. Its one of those things where you trust your instincts and don't get involved in mischief. Been through Rio before but never actually left the airport so it doesn't count.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

I have a vendor that goes to TJ every other week when he calls on the SD area, he's always trying to get us to go down there with him and goes as far as throwing in a few hookers. No Way Jose! I'm not going back there, I've heard way too many stories...

I've got a party buddy... 52 yr old single dude... he owns a crash pad on the sand just south of Rosarito and he sends me pics every month from TJ strip clubs that have hotel rooms attached. His gal likes the ladies so they dance at titty bar and get a room and take a gal [or two] up to hotel and have at it. I recently posted a pic of a shot up new Jeep right out front of a hotel around Rosarito on toll road where he was having a drink one day. He loves the freedoms his wild lifestyle allows down there but I'll just enjoy his stories from safety of my place thank you. I'm a fan of Baja but too sketchy at moment for me to have some lobster.

 

[bonesfab]

Anything is possible, I’m just speculating. It looks fishy

She probably smells that way too.

 

[spectras only]

My son was in PV with his girlfriend recently. He said, every police car they saw, had one woman cop with the men in the cars. Must be a reason for it?

 

[SKIA36]

Wife and her girlfriend went to Cancun (5 Star) a few years age. Resort provided a shuttle to take them shopping. Took them to a large modern house for jewelry. Entry had 3 men in suits and said they were security and the shopping was on the second floor, offered free drinks. The girls ran out the door and flagged down a taxi about a mile down the road. They were never so scared in their lives. The concierge and shuttle driver were in cahoots kidnapping women. Be VERY VERY cautious in Mexico. Peril is lurking .

 

[monkeyswrench]

Wife and her girlfriend went to Cancun a few years age. Resort provided a shuttle to take them shopping. Took them to a large modern house for jewelry. Entry had 3 men in suits and said they were security and the shopping was on the second floor, offered free drinks. The girls ran out the door and flagged down a taxi about a mile down the road. They were never so scared in their lives. The concierge and shuttle driver were in cahoots kidnapping women. Be VERY VERY cautious in Mexico. Peril is lurking .

Liam Neison "Taken" kind of shit there

 

[just_floatin]

The plot thickens. The victims have rap sheets

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633870172401565696

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The plot thickens. The victims have rap sheets

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633870172401565696

Just conspiracy theories.

 

[Danger Dave]

Shaheed and Zindell will be missed.

Four Americans kidnapped in Mexico have lengthy rap sheets

Four U.S. citizens who were kidnapped in Mexico by the notorious criminal and drug syndicate Gulf Cartel have lengthy criminal rap sheets.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[monkeyswrench]

The plot thickens. The victims have rap sheets

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633870172401565696

Absolutely shocking...
It wasn't a random kidnapping and torture? and yet the FBI offered rewards, and Biden was talking about how the Mexican government needs to take care of this drug problem. Of course the Mexican president, in his address yesterday, stated that the Mexican government doesn't dictate how the American president deals with the drug use in the states.

 

[cofooter]

Shaheed and Zindell will be missed.

Four Americans kidnapped in Mexico have lengthy rap sheets

Four U.S. citizens who were kidnapped in Mexico by the notorious criminal and drug syndicate Gulf Cartel have lengthy criminal rap sheets.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The cartel was only trying to do us a favor and get rid of these dirtbags

 

[RiverDave]

Wife and her girlfriend went to Cancun (5 Star) a few years age. Resort provided a shuttle to take them shopping. Took them to a large modern house for jewelry. Entry had 3 men in suits and said they were security and the shopping was on the second floor, offered free drinks. The girls ran out the door and flagged down a taxi about a mile down the road. They were never so scared in their lives. The concierge and shuttle driver were in cahoots kidnapping women. Be VERY VERY cautious in Mexico. Peril is lurking .

Where the concierge and shuttle driver caught later or something?