Luxe boats

[Floaterboat]

You turned into an ass.
The more post and insult members, the more and more I am thinking you are full of shit.

Think whatever you want. You don’t have believe the doors are closed and they broke promises to clients who now can’t get their cash back.

Weren’t you defending Rusty while he ripped people off?

 

[Floaterboat]

Logic has no place here!

Don’t I know it brother. Mind boggling.

 

[hallett21]

@Floaterboat do you mind answering what the 6 figure down payment was supposed to get you?

And then what were the progress completions/payments from that point?

You can just use percentages to keep the dollar amount out of it.

 

[NicPaus]

I asked last night. They were done months ago.

 

[throttle]

I asked last night. They were done months ago.

Sad for all!
I would have liked to have seen them be successful.

 

[Singleton]

Think whatever you want. You don’t have believe the doors are closed and they broke promises to clients who now can’t get their cash back.

Weren’t you defending Rusty while he ripped people off?

You need to review what I have posted and make sure you know what all has been said.
Did I defend Rusty prior to Andrew leaving as GM = yes. But I usually knew what was being said and in certain cases saw the text messages and change orders, etc between Rusty and customers.
Have I defended Rusty since Andrew left and within the last 3-4 years = NO!

you start attacking members and your credibility goes to shit.

Feel bad for the folks out money, but question WTF was someone thinking to give a 100k deposit.
You have 100k to give as a deposit, you got the money to hire a lawyer and get something back.

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

Labor Day isnt even over and we have our first winter thread! Lol.

I thought the boats were pretty cool. Shame it didn’t work out.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I asked last night. They were done months ago.

Unfortunately, Ray Charles could see this coming. In such a niche market this seems to be a side hustle of putting out a couple boats a year, or a prime candidate to partner with someone like Forest River to handle the MFG portion and have limited employees to rig and final assemble. To do what they were trying to do, in CA no less, seems like an imminent death sentence.

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

Unfortunately, Ray Charles could see this coming. In such a niche market this seems to be a side hustle of putting out a couple boats a year, or a prime candidate to partner with someone like Forest River to handle the MFG portion and have limited employees to rig and final assemble. To do what they were trying to do, in CA no less, seems like an imminent death sentence.

Ray was an early investor but got blindsided by the market. Sign of the times.

 

[DWC]

This thread is the best and worst of RDP.. Funny as hell though.

 

[was thatguy]

This thread is the best and worst of RDP.. Funny as hell though.

Meh
There’s no slagged out Mexican whores on dope or drunk driving with loaded firearms.
But the day ain’t over yet.

 

[Gelcoater]

Labor Day isnt even over and we have our first winter thread! Lol.

I thought the boats were pretty cool. Shame it didn’t work out.

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[RiverDave]

for the reading impaired @was thatguy please go read my posts again.. I said I feel bad for Curt as I know he gave it his all.

I feel bad for the customers that are out money.

I hope they are able to restructure and I hope those that are out money are made whole..

Somehow you have twisted that into attacking customers (and now actually have members taking that stance from something YOU created).

To the point you logic’s your way all the way to the point that featuring a new boat company it’s somehow my fault they got in the situation..

Your logic is pretzel at best..

RD

 

[Andy B.]

Labor Day isnt even over and we have our first winter thread! Lol.

I thought the boats were pretty cool. Shame it didn’t work out.

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All I see is two hot chick's
You take great pictures.

 

[RiverDave]

Something that is being conflated here in this thread..

Deposits vs progress payments.

I can’t speak to every boat the Luxe sold because I wasn’t there for all of them.

From my friends that have/had deposits on them they were told 10k to get your spot inline. There is a shitload of guys that aren’t gonna get that money back.

I don’t believe that anybody put down 100k for a deposit. It just doesn’t sound like reality to me? (I’m not saying it didn’t happen I am just saying I can’t see anyone doing it)

What I could see happening is someone getting inline to start a build and putting up some large amount of money to either begin, continue, or finish the process and That last part not happening.

For example @Bpracing1127 they may have paid for the 500’s and that would be well over a 100k only to have the company fold and not receive the engines. That is a horrible position to be in and certainly no fault of the customers..


RD

 

[was thatguy]

for the reading impaired @was thatguy please go read my posts again.. I said I feel bad for Curt as I know he gave it his all.

I feel bad for the customers that are out money.

I hope they are able to restructure and I hope those that are out money are made whole..

Somehow you have twisted that into attacking customers (and now actually have members taking that stance from something YOU created).

To the point you logic’s your way all the way to the point that featuring a new boat company it’s somehow my fault they got in the situation..

Your logic is pretzel at best..

RD

Good morning!

 

[RiverDave]

If I learn anything from that, it is RD defended Tim until he was shown the hard evidence Tim was committing fraud.
Took way to much time for RD to believe what folks were saying.

back to my bottle of wine with the wife.

I would give anybody the benefit of the doubt until I am shown hard evidence. You keep repeating this like it’s a bad thing. It isn’t.

 

[RiverDave]

Good morning!

It was until I read this thread..

By the way your truck in a flat bed slight.. fuck me I guess for being responsible and letting people know that for not much more than an Uber you can get your car home with you.

I mean really?

RD

 

[Done-it-again]

I asked last night. They were done months ago.

Surprising it took this long to get out.

 

[RiverDave]

Surprising it took this long to get out.

Next up will be the conspiracy that I somehow squelched the information in an effort to get more money out of unsuspecting folks while twisting my evil mustache..

If it comes from @was thatguy we can add that the money was sent to the aliens to help start businesses disguised as humans..

Somehow we will logic our way to that.. lol

RD

 

[was thatguy]

Take it easy brah…
It could be a lot worse than just my bullshit.

Frankly, for the annual cost of that private drinking club I would think the flatbed service would be included?

 

[was thatguy]

Next up will be the conspiracy that I somehow squelched the information in an effort to get more money out of unsuspecting folks while twisting my evil mustache..

If it comes from @was thatguy we can add that the money was sent to the aliens to help start businesses disguised as humans..

Somehow we will logic our way to that.. lol

RD

Nah,
Aliens would never get mixed up in this bullshit.

 

[RiverDave]

Take it easy brah…
It could be a lot worse than just my bullshit.

Frankly, for the annual cost of that private drinking club I would think the flatbed service would be included?

500 bucks and 250 in food credit back? lol. That is a lot? Do I even need to say it?

 

[was thatguy]

I predict in 3-6 months the entire attitude will change.
Just like OC Tim…just like Ultra…
It’s a pattern, and none of it is from my influence.
I have no influence.

 

[was thatguy]

500 bucks and 250 in food credit back? lol. That is a lot? Do I even need to say it?

Do I?

 

[RiverDave]

I predict in 3-6 months the entire attitude will change.
Just like OC Tim…just like Ultra…
It’s a pattern, and none of it is from my influence.
I have no influence.

The problem is your perception of the attitude itself..

I said I feel bad for Curt and I feel bad for the customers. You twisted that into somehow it’s the customers fault and defending the mfg..

It’s bizarre

 

[was thatguy]

Ok

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

All I see is two hot chick's
You take great pictures.

It’s powerful marketing

 

[was thatguy]

It’s powerful marketing

You’d have thought half of RDP would have instantly put deposits down?

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

You’d have thought half of RDP would have instantly put deposits down?

Sounds like they did

 

[Outdrive1]

Didn’t the first one need a bunch more setup work? Wasn’t it spraying water up between the motor and transom and weren’t the performance numbers really disappointing? Did they ever dial it in?

 

[DWC]

Didn’t the first one need a bunch more setup work? Wasn’t it spraying water up between the motor and transom and weren’t the performance numbers really disappointing? Did they ever dial it in?

Is that the one for sale? I’ve asked a bunch of times what the top speed was on the for sale post. Never got an answer.

 

[Outdrive1]

Is that the one for sale? I’ve asked a bunch of times what the top speed was on the for sale post. Never got an answer.

Idk but the concept was cool idea, I just never heard of they solved all the issues with it. I remember RD saying it wasn’t a big deal. If I’m spending that type of money I’d expect to perform similarly to other boats like Avalon, Trifecta Etc.

 

[RiverDave]

Didn’t the first one need a bunch more setup work? Wasn’t it spraying water up between the motor and transom and weren’t the performance numbers really disappointing? Did they ever dial it in?

I believe they did dial it in.. the later models carried the bow liked you’d expect out of a performance too .

RD

 

[Outdrive1]

I believe they did dial it in.. the later models carried the bow liked you’d expect out of a performance too .

RD

There was never any follow up to the original threads. That would have been good to know for a prospective buyer.

 

[Floaterboat]

Something that is being conflated here in this thread..

Deposits vs progress payments.

I can’t speak to every boat the Luxe sold because I wasn’t there for all of them.

From my friends that have/had deposits on them they were told 10k to get your spot inline. There is a shitload of guys that aren’t gonna get that money back.

I don’t believe that anybody put down 100k for a deposit. It just doesn’t sound like reality to me? (I’m not saying it didn’t happen I am just saying I can’t see anyone doing it)

What I could see happening is someone getting inline to start a build and putting up some large amount of money to either begin, continue, or finish the process and That last part not happening.

For example @Bpracing1127 they may have paid for the 500’s and that would be well over a 100k only to have the company fold and not receive the engines. That is a horrible position to be in and certainly no fault of the customers..


RD

This is accurate. I’ve said multiple times money was given for motors and no motors were procured.

For the incomplete boats in question that is the cliff notes of how things got so upside down. If the boat was incomplete with motors, this is a giant pain, but boat could still be rigged and finished and you get something out of it.

People are having to buy parts that were supposedly purchased already, and the money to purchase those parts, and motors, rig and finish the boat is exceeding what the boat is worth.

And yea the people in line with deposits are out of luck completely.

 

[JFMFG]

This is accurate. I’ve said multiple times money was given for motors and no motors were procured.

For the incomplete boats in question that is the cliff notes of how things got so upside down. If the boat was incomplete with motors, this is a giant pain, but boat could still be rigged and finished and you get something out of it.

People are having to buy parts that were supposedly purchased already, and the money to purchase those parts, and motors, rig and finish the boat is exceeding what the boat is worth.

And yea the people in line with deposits are out of luck completely.

How far along is yours?

 

[schweeng]

I was kind of interested in the original one… And then I shook some trees and found out that they (company) weren’t in good shape, and I was told the boat when it runs it lists on one side. And yeah, the performance numbers were not too hot.

 

[Bpracing1127]

This is accurate. I’ve said multiple times money was given for motors and no motors were procured.

For the incomplete boats in question that is the cliff notes of how things got so upside down. If the boat was incomplete with motors, this is a giant pain, but boat could still be rigged and finished and you get something out of it.

People are having to buy parts that were supposedly purchased already, and the money to purchase those parts, and motors, rig and finish the boat is exceeding what the boat is worth.

And yea the people in line with deposits are out of luck completely.

Precisely this. Curt had two motors that were paid for by customer A and put them on customer B boat. Customer A is now out the motors.

Chicken shit if you ask me

 

[RiverDave]

This is accurate. I’ve said multiple times money was given for motors and no motors were procured.

For the incomplete boats in question that is the cliff notes of how things got so upside down. If the boat was incomplete with motors, this is a giant pain, but boat could still be rigged and finished and you get something out of it.

People are having to buy parts that were supposedly purchased already, and the money to purchase those parts, and motors, rig and finish the boat is exceeding what the boat is worth.

And yea the people in line with deposits are out of luck completely.

How far a long is your boat? What do you need to finish it?

RD

 

[hallett21]

Still can’t get an answer from those in the know (customers) of where this went sideways.

 

[hallett21]

Precisely this. Curt had two motors that were paid for by customer A and put them on customer B boat. Customer A is now out the motors.

Chicken shit if you ask me

Could you break down what the deposit was and what that got the customer? What did the boat look like upon the motor draw? What was the motor draw? After the motor draw how much was left to pay?

 

[Floaterboat]

Still can’t get an answer from those in the know (customers) of where this went sideways.

There is a customer on the first page that said PM him. Please do so if you are interested in specific experiences.

After how this thread has gone predictably sideways, what do the dollar amounts matter? And why should anyone even share them? I’m not posting anyone’s specific business I’m privy to here aside from what I’ve already said. That is theirs to share.

Money was paid, things were promised for that money that were either partially or never completed.

Business doors are closed, a couple customers have their incomplete boats. The rest of them have nothing.

Many other customers with just deposits are out that money.

Some will blame the customers because they must have been stupid, some will blame the business owners as they were the ones keeping up the charade, and some will blame everyone.

 

[Done-it-again]

There is a customer on the first page that said PM him. Please do so if you are interested in specific experiences.

After how this thread has gone predictably sideways, what do the dollar amounts matter? And why should anyone even share them? I’m not posting anyone’s specific business I’m privy to here aside from what I’ve already said. That is theirs to share.

Money was paid, things were promised for that money that were either partially or never completed.

Business doors are closed, a couple customers have their incomplete boats. The rest of them have nothing.

Many other customers with just deposits are out that money.

Some will blame the customers because they must have been stupid, some will blame the business owners as they were the ones keeping up the charade, and some will blame everyone.

Did you have a toon being built by Luxe?

What I find somewhat strange is why it took so long for a call out thread if the doors have been closed for months as it usually happens a lot faster around here.

 

[hallett21]

There is a customer on the first page that said PM him. Please do so if you are interested in specific experiences.

After how this thread has gone predictably sideways, what do the dollar amounts matter? And why should anyone even share them? I’m not posting anyone’s specific business I’m privy to here aside from what I’ve already said. That is theirs to share.

Money was paid, things were promised for that money that were either partially or never completed.

Business doors are closed, a couple customers have their incomplete boats. The rest of them have nothing.

Many other customers with just deposits are out that money.

Some will blame the customers because they must have been stupid, some will blame the business owners as they were the ones keeping up the charade, and some will blame everyone.

I’ve asked multiple times to keep the dollar amounts out of it. Just explain the percentages.

If you don’t want to share that’s fine. But you’re participating on a public forum.

In my opinion you can’t throw around “six figure” deposit numbers (others have as well, but that’s not your responsibility to police them) and then not explain how the payments went. I’m in agreement that anyone who put down a minimum of $1 got screwed. But I also don’t know what the customers were buying into/investing/etc.

Do these customers/investors have anything to show for the money they spent? If they have zero to show for it, how much are they out? This doesn’t justify what LUXE did or didn’t do. But my guess is that not every customer is out 100’s of thousands with zero to show for it.

This is not directed at you at all. But there are plenty of members who think businesses and especially new businesses start inside of a vacuum. One dollar in and 75 cents out equals profit. And all you need to do is just accomplish that 300 million times and you’re Jeff Bezos. But that’s never the case. There is risk involved and when it comes to toys, anything less than a gulfstream is a loser according to any financial guy.

 

[RiverDave]

There is a customer on the first page that said PM him. Please do so if you are interested in specific experiences.

After how this thread has gone predictably sideways, what do the dollar amounts matter? And why should anyone even share them? I’m not posting anyone’s specific business I’m privy to here aside from what I’ve already said. That is theirs to share.

Money was paid, things were promised for that money that were either partially or never completed.

Business doors are closed, a couple customers have their incomplete boats. The rest of them have nothing.

Many other customers with just deposits are out that money.

Some will blame the customers because they must have been stupid, some will blame the business owners as they were the ones keeping up the charade, and some will blame everyone.

So you are saying you are not a luxe customer?

The thread went predictably sideways because you and some other members got into name calling and away from the actual topic.

If you’d like to talk about the topic and your experience, or even a friends experience if it’s accurate, I think you’d find it predictably on topic?

 

[hallett21]

Did you have a toon being built by Luxe?

What I find somewhat strange is why it took so long for a call out thread if the doors have been closed for months as it usually happens a lot faster around here.

Because like everything it was a “buddy” who got screwed.

If you really were done wrong by LUXE you would call your attorney/LEO, file suit and wait for your attorney to tell you the next move. If you needed to go get an unfinished 2-400k boat then you do it by the book.

The absolute last thing you would do is hit a forum or social media.

 

[riverroyal]

What are the odds someone has a deposit on a luxe and a speed?

Asking for a friend

 

[was thatguy]

What are the odds someone has a deposit on a luxe and a speed?

Asking for a friend

 

[Bpracing1127]

What are the odds someone has a deposit on a luxe and a speed?

Asking for a friend

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