KOH 2024, who’s going?

[pixrthis]

So are you saying golf cars are fast or purpose built race cars are slow?

I honestly don’t know but on YouTube it looks like the SXS drivers send it harder. I’m interested in hearing someone's opinion that actually knows.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I honestly don’t know but on YouTube it looks like the SXS drivers send it harder. I’m interested in hearing someone's opinion that actually knows.

You are talking 2500# cars with 250 HP vs a 5000 lb car with 600 HP through a torque convertor.

The UTV is going to be faster and handle better except in flat out straight line top speed and some of the extreme rock stuff.

The UTV classes are the only ones with OEMs fully redesigning them every few years, and constantly upgrading them. They will continue to get faster at a faster rate.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I watched some 4400 qualifying today, the cars look expensive but don’t seem to go any faster than the expensive SXS’s. What’s the difference in a competitive car in both classes, which class has a deeper field, and which class outruns the other?

So are you saying golf cars are fast or purpose built race cars are slow?

I tend to think of it like weight divisions in MMA.

At Legends, the UTVs looked as fast as the U4 cars until the race started on lap three. Once they opened up the big cars, they were apparent quicker and not just louder. Sometimes, a smaller, lighter car will have an advantage on a tight technical course. All that said, I've been waiting for a UTV to overtake the whole field of U4 cars and land on the podium. IMHO, it's inevitable. I've always believed most U4 cars are too heavy and seem to follow the conventional build design.

So, in my opinion, the UTVs are getting faster at a quicker rate than the U4 cars and, at some point, will overtake them. I'm not up to date on rules, but my kid tells me that they are already developing regulations to hold back UTVs in U4, which, in my opinion, is outside the spirit of Ultra4 and its unlimited nature.

It will be a bummer when people can no longer build a car in their garage and have a fighting chance at a decent finish, but I think we are already there. One of the coolest cars I saw last year was Travis Zollinger's full custom Polaris-powered U4 car. He told me he was blocked from running the whole U4 series due to a new minimum weight requirement, which I think is complete BS. Hopefully, that will change.

Last note: weight has a tendency to really affect the UTVs. U4 cars don't care much if you add spares, fuel, and co-drivers, but you feel that in a UTV. During qualifying, the UTVs are stripped and have only enough fuel to run the lap. (If they are smart)

 

[pixrthis]

I tend to think of it like weight divisions in MMA.

At Legends, the UTVs looked as fast as the U4 cars until the race started on lap three. Once they opened up the big cars, they were apparent quicker and not just louder. Sometimes, a smaller, lighter car will have an advantage on a tight technical course. All that said, I've been waiting for a UTV to overtake the whole field of U4 cars and land on the podium. IMHO, it's inevitable. I've always believed most U4 cars are too heavy and seem to follow the conventional build design.

So, in my opinion, the UTVs are getting faster at a quicker rate than the U4 cars and, at some point, will overtake them. I'm not up to date on rules, but my kid tells me that they are already developing regulations to hold back UTVs in U4, which, in my opinion, is outside the spirit of Ultra4 and its unlimited nature.

It will be a bummer when people can no longer build a car in their garage and have a fighting chance at a decent finish, but I think we are already there. One of the coolest cars I saw last year was Travis Zollinger's full custom Polaris-powered U4 car. He told me he was blocked from running the whole U4 series due to a new minimum weight requirement, which I think is complete BS. Hopefully, that will change.

Last note: weight has a tendency to really affect the UTVs. U4 cars don't care much if you add spares, fuel, and co-drivers, but you feel that in a UTV. During qualifying, the UTVs are stripped and have only enough fuel to run the lap. (If they are smart)

Exactly the type of info I was looking for, thank you.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I tend to think of it like weight divisions in MMA.

At Legends, the UTVs looked as fast as the U4 cars until the race started on lap three. Once they opened up the big cars, they were apparent quicker and not just louder. Sometimes, a smaller, lighter car will have an advantage on a tight technical course. All that said, I've been waiting for a UTV to overtake the whole field of U4 cars and land on the podium. IMHO, it's inevitable. I've always believed most U4 cars are too heavy and seem to follow the conventional build design.

So, in my opinion, the UTVs are getting faster at a quicker rate than the U4 cars and, at some point, will overtake them. I'm not up to date on rules, but my kid tells me that they are already developing regulations to hold back UTVs in U4, which, in my opinion, is outside the spirit of Ultra4 and its unlimited nature.

It will be a bummer when people can no longer build a car in their garage and have a fighting chance at a decent finish, but I think we are already there. One of the coolest cars I saw last year was Travis Zollinger's full custom Polaris-powered U4 car. He told me he was blocked from running the whole U4 series due to a new minimum weight requirement, which I think is complete BS. Hopefully, that will change.

Last note: weight has a tendency to really affect the UTVs. U4 cars don't care much if you add spares, fuel, and co-drivers, but you feel that in a UTV. During qualifying, the UTVs are stripped and have only enough fuel to run the lap. (If they are smart)

If you want to race off road and have any kind of “Everyman” budget.. go buy an UTV and run some showroom stock class. It get stupid quickly any other way.

I think there is a huge opportunity for this kind of amateur competitive off road racing in UTVs, similar to 24 hours of Lemons for on road racing.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

If you want to race off road and have any kind of “Everyman” budget.. go buy an UTV and run some showroom stock class. It get stupid quickly any other way.

I think there is a huge opportunity for this kind of amateur competitive off road racing in UTVs, similar to 24 hours of Lemons for on road racing.

I agree. 12 years ago, a group of us tried to organize a UTV (sxs) trade group, and we established a universal rule book and classes under the International SxS Association name. We had some great industry people working on it, but it was like herding cats and failed. One of the many people was Brian Bennett, who works with USAC on UTV racing.

You can race a UTV in just about any race sanction off-road right now in pretty much any part of the country and in just about any discipline. The problem is that the class structure is a mess. USAC is the best hope to get it structured.

If I get the itch to race again, it will likely be in a UTV. The only other thing that interests me is the vintage vehicles and the rally stuff like NORRA. I like long races that require logistics; sprints and short courses never interested me much, but Glen Helen is a pile of fun. A Grand Prix-style race at Glen Helen would be super cool. We did that with U4 back in the day, and I thought it was pretty well received.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I agree. 12 years ago, a group of us tried to organize a UTV (sxs) trade group, and we established a universal rule book and classes under the International SxS Association name. We had some great industry people working on it, but it was like herding cats and failed. One of the many people was Brian Bennett, who works with USAC on UTV racing.

You can race a UTV in just about any race sanction off-road right now in pretty much any part of the country and in just about any discipline. The problem is that the class structure is a mess. USAC is the best hope to get it structured.

If I get the itch to race again, it will likely be in a UTV. The only other thing that interests me is the vintage vehicles and the rally stuff like NORRA. I like long races that require logistics; sprints and short courses never interested me much, but Glen Helen is a pile of fun. A Grand Prix-style race at Glen Helen would be super cool. We did that with U4 back in the day, and I thought it was pretty well received.

Yes. The classing aspect is a total cluster. Scrap the whole thing.

You can only run a 1000CC NA production based car. You can’t spend more than $20k on the whole getup. The judges asses the car. If you cheated fine, you just get penalty laps assessed from the jump. Make it a fun spectacle.

The car needs XYZ for safety. Safety does not count towards the budget. Say you come up with a 8 mile course.. make it a 10 hour race with 3-4 driver teams. Or maybe it’s a point to point, one day you go from A to B and the next day you go from B back to A.

You get a little of all of it. Logistics, planning, strategy, triumph and tragedy.

I think with the right marketing and planning you could get a 150 or more entries for something like that, and have several a year in different locations.

By mandating the budget and car type (older Gen cars), it gives older race cars and UTVs a new lease on life, and a series where the “Everyman Ironman” can actually go out and compete.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Yes. The classing aspect is a total cluster. Scrap the whole thing.

You can only run a 1000CC NA production based car. You can’t spend more than $20k on the whole getup. The judges asses the car. If you cheated fine, you just get penalty laps assessed from the jump. Make it a fun spectacle.

The car needs XYZ for safety. Safety does not count towards the budget. Say you come up with a 8 mile course.. make it a 10 hour race with 3-4 driver teams. Or maybe it’s a point to point, one day you go from A to B and the next day you go from B back to A.

You get a little of all of it. Logistics, planning, strategy, triumph and tragedy.

I think with the right marketing and planning you could get a 150 or more entries for something like that, and have several a year in different locations.

By mandating the budget and car type (older Gen cars), it gives older race cars and UTVs a new lease on life, and a series where the “Everyman Ironman” can actually go out and compete.

The best bet is to piggyback on an already-established race series so you don't have a permit issue. The insurance is not really a problem; USAC can handle that, but a BLM permit is a lesson in frustration. Private property is the key if possible, but the landowners tend to get greedy if they think you are making money, and it always goes sideways.

I like outlaw racing between gentlemen. Agree to terms, fight club style, assume your own risk, follow a line on a map, and be a gentleman about the whole deal. Drink a beer at the finish and make sure everyone makes it out alive.

 

[whiteworks]

I watched some 4400 qualifying today, the cars look expensive but don’t seem to go any faster than the expensive SXS’s. What’s the difference in a competitive car in both classes, which class has a deeper field, and which class outruns the other?

Here is my take on the current situation of 4400 class, if you can’t afford two cars, you can’t afford one there are 10-15 legit cutting edge 4400’s in the field, and those cars are actually obsolete as there are better cars in solid works designs programs and having parts cut as these cars are going off the line today. The rest of the field is kidding themselves or not paying attention to what’s happening around them.

Our car is like 7 years old, it’s a badass solid axel car but it doesn’t have a shot in hell of winning this race unless we put one of the gen 2 ultra 4 kids behind the wheel and tell them to win or break it in half trying car 100 will be qualifying at 10:00 am tomorrow, I suspect it will be a humbling experience however we’ll see how that plays out in real time.

As for the SXS stuff, you just have to love the progression that a robust sales market breeds, I’m a big fan of everything these oems are putting out there. That being said there still gay ass golf carts compared to an 800HP fire breathing beast that throws 40” tires around like they don’t weigh a thing, it’s just brute force and power in motion, once you ride in one your like, the reality of things sort themselves real quick.

Im just watching thing play out and eating ice cream cones in the desert

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The best bet is to piggyback on an already-established race series so you don't have a permit issue. The insurance is not really a problem; USAC can handle that, but a BLM permit is a lesson in frustration. Private property is the key if possible, but the landowners tend to get greedy if they think you are making money, and it always goes sideways.

I like outlaw racing between gentlemen. Agree to terms, fight club style, assume your own risk, follow a line on a map, and be a gentleman about the whole deal. Drink a beer at the finish and make sure everyone makes it out alive.

Yes, that is where the on road guys have a leg up. We go in knowing the rental rate for the track.

We have an outlaw race like that already. The Alamo 200.

It has been a couple years since we did it though.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

Another good day after a great day yesterday.
We were over watching some action and I caught this. Rear steer car going away from us.

 

[Racey]

Yes. The classing aspect is a total cluster. Scrap the whole thing.

You can only run a 1000CC NA production based car. You can’t spend more than $20k on the whole getup. The judges asses the car. If you cheated fine, you just get penalty laps assessed from the jump. Make it a fun spectacle.

The car needs XYZ for safety. Safety does not count towards the budget. Say you come up with a 8 mile course.. make it a 10 hour race with 3-4 driver teams. Or maybe it’s a point to point, one day you go from A to B and the next day you go from B back to A.

You get a little of all of it. Logistics, planning, strategy, triumph and tragedy.

I think with the right marketing and planning you could get a 150 or more entries for something like that, and have several a year in different locations.

By mandating the budget and car type (older Gen cars), it gives older race cars and UTVs a new lease on life, and a series where the “Everyman Ironman” can actually go out and compete.

They do a similar thing is some motocross racing, every competitors bike has to be available for sale to any other team at a fixed price, any time they want to buy it.

Basically your competition can show up at your pit and say here's 20k give me your car.

One of the best ways ive ever heard to keep it legit

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

They do a similar thing is some motocross racing, every competitors bike has to be available for sale to any other team at a fixed price, any time they want to buy it.

Basically your competition can show up at your pit and say here's 20k give me your car.

One of the best ways ive ever heard to keep it legit

24 hours of Lemons also did that in the early days. It was a long time ago but I want to say it was like $3k or $5k. I don’t remember. These were supposed to be $500 cars.

People got pissed not because of the car but because of the safety equipment investment - cage, seat, belts etc.

They got rid of that rule. These days the cars have $8k of safety stuff in them minimum.

 

[pixrthis]

Here is my take on the current situation of 4400 class, if you can’t afford two cars, you can’t afford one there are 10-15 legit cutting edge 4400’s in the field, and those cars are actually obsolete as there are better cars in solid works designs programs and having parts cut as these cars are going off the line today. The rest of the field is kidding themselves or not paying attention to what’s happening around them.

Our car is like 7 years old, it’s a badass solid axel car but it doesn’t have a shot in hell of winning this race unless we put one of the gen 2 ultra 4 kids behind the wheel and tell them to win or break it in half trying car 100 will be qualifying at 10:00 am tomorrow, I suspect it will be a humbling experience however we’ll see how that plays out in real time.

As for the SXS stuff, you just have to love the progression that a robust sales market breeds, I’m a big fan of everything these oems are putting out there. That being said there still gay ass golf carts compared to an 800HP fire breathing beast that throws 40” tires around like they don’t weigh a thing, it’s just brute force and power in motion, once you ride in one your like, the reality of things sort themselves real quick.

Im just watching thing play out and eating ice cream cones in the desert
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I was going to hold off going until Saturday but qualifying is really interesting and exciting so we’re going tomorrow. Good luck

 

[pwerwagn]

Some crazy stuff out here to see.

And TONS of speed UTV’s. Sitting at back door now hoping for a show. The last 3 night have been a good time.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Here is my take on the current situation of 4400 class, if you can’t afford two cars, you can’t afford one there are 10-15 legit cutting edge 4400’s in the field, and those cars are actually obsolete as there are better cars in solid works designs programs and having parts cut as these cars are going off the line today. The rest of the field is kidding themselves or not paying attention to what’s happening around them.

Our car is like 7 years old, it’s a badass solid axel car but it doesn’t have a shot in hell of winning this race unless we put one of the gen 2 ultra 4 kids behind the wheel and tell them to win or break it in half trying car 100 will be qualifying at 10:00 am tomorrow, I suspect it will be a humbling experience however we’ll see how that plays out in real time.

As for the SXS stuff, you just have to love the progression that a robust sales market breeds, I’m a big fan of everything these oems are putting out there. That being said there still gay ass golf carts compared to an 800HP fire breathing beast that throws 40” tires around like they don’t weigh a thing, it’s just brute force and power in motion, once you ride in one your like, the reality of things sort themselves real quick.

Im just watching thing play out and eating ice cream cones in the desert
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Portal Boxes are a considerable advancement to the sport. If the price of those can stabilize with production, I think we see another shift. It is a bummer, but it seems gone are the days of building a car out of junkyard parts. The segregation of classes was intended to keep it real for people, but those classes got messed up from the start when businesses came in and built custom cars to make an impression.

I hate saying this, but I seriously think it's time for a Pro class in U4, and you need to qualify for a license to drive in that class. There are 15 people who have a shot in that race. The rest are tourists. Tourists pay the bills, but I would really like to see the top drivers go after each other without traffic. Reno Air Races had an exciting class structure that I think would work well.

It's a funny lesson for all the dreamers out there. A VP of sales and marketing told Dave and me we were crazy to think anyone would build a custom car for this race back in 2008. KOH saved a handful of businesses from collapse during the Great Recession; today, it has an entire industry behind it.

FWIW, money and a car do not buy a win in this sport. Jordan Pelligrino has had one of the most advanced cars for a few years and has not performed. You have to have talent, a team, be willing to punish yourself, and have good luck to make a podium. Just a finish is a win. I'm satisfied I have finished a KOH U4 race; I don't think I need to do it again. I would entertain playing on a team, but Like you, I have high expectations of what that means.

 

[whiteworks]

I’m just here for the soft serve ice cream cones and morning sunrises while I sip my coffee.

I hear there is some sort of racing taking place

 

[Singleton]

Working in hotel before customer meetings.
The VETTS EMC car had serious issues yesterday during qualifying. Might day trip Thursday to help fix it, but have to be home Friday.

 

[whiteworks]

Working in hotel before customer meetings.
The VETTS EMC car had serious issues yesterday during qualifying. Might day trip Thursday to help fix it, but have to be home Friday.

You may want to bring a rain coat for Thursday, could get interesting if the moisture makes it there.

 

[Singleton]

You may want to bring a rain coat for Thursday, could get interesting if the moisture makes it there. View attachment 1329157

Yuck
I told the team if parts need to be hauled out, I will do it. I will find out tonight when I get home, if parts are at my house

No parts - staying home.

 

[Deckin Around]

Great show! She hopped out of the blue yoda and got involved after the first tumble but yeah good description. That second punch she threw please note, she never dropped her drink out of her left hand

Jeff Itschner on Instagram: "Go to Hammers for the race and stay for the shit show. He got knocked the hell out by a chick."

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opposite view

Blake on Instagram: "@kamsoofunny explained it best. They just make you go to sleep and sh*t. (After careful review it was an open beer can, not a rock in the Queen Of The Hammers hand) I say don’t throw rocks at peoples cars. #queenofthehammers #ko

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[Deckin Around]

Yuck
I told the team if parts need to be hauled out, I will do it. I will find out tonight when I get home, if parts are at my house

No parts - staying home.

If you get the parts to me I’ll take them out tomorrow afternoon

 

[evantwheeler]

Some crazy stuff out here to see.

And TONS of speed UTV’s. Sitting at back door now hoping for a show. The last 3 night have been a good time.

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Is it me, or is backdoor shorter/shallower than it used to be? That looks nothing like it did that last time I was there, albeit it was a long time ago:

 

[evantwheeler]

Portal Boxes are a considerable advancement to the sport. If the price of those can stabilize with production, I think we see another shift. It is a bummer, but it seems gone are the days of building a car out of junkyard parts. The segregation of classes was intended to keep it real for people, but those classes got messed up from the start when businesses came in and built custom cars to make an impression.

I hate saying this, but I seriously think it's time for a Pro class in U4, and you need to qualify for a license to drive in that class. There are 15 people who have a shot in that race. The rest are tourists. Tourists pay the bills, but I would really like to see the top drivers go after each other without traffic. Reno Air Races had an exciting class structure that I think would work well.

It's a funny lesson for all the dreamers out there. A VP of sales and marketing told Dave and me we were crazy to think anyone would build a custom car for this race back in 2008. KOH saved a handful of businesses from collapse during the Great Recession; today, it has an entire industry behind it.

FWIW, money and a car do not buy a win in this sport. Jordan Pelligrino has had one of the most advanced cars for a few years and has not performed. You have to have talent, a team, be willing to punish yourself, and have good luck to make a podium. Just a finish is a win. I'm satisfied I have finished a KOH U4 race; I don't think I need to do it again. I would entertain playing on a team, but Like you, I have high expectations of what that means.

The Gomez Brothers efforts and results are IMPRESSIVE. I love seeing those guys win.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Is it me, or is backdoor shorter/shallower than it used to be? That looks nothing like it did that last time I was there, albeit it was a long time ago: View attachment 1329215

Its way more filled in than what it was 10 years ago. Seems like every year it gets easier.

I have been there and it used to be way over head. Probably 7+' It used to be almost an act of magic when a car went up. Way more broke while we drank beer than succeeded.

Looks like eye level now.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Looks like the new line is to jump down the left side of back door. Can am just pulled it off again (not the same guy as the other day) and it looked buttery smooth. Gomez just tried it and ate shit and rolled the car.

That side used to be an almost impossible climb.

 

[DarkJuJu]

Chaney just qualified in 5th in the x3, crazy!

 

[Singleton]

If you get the parts to me I’ll take them out tomorrow afternoon

Thanks for the offer. I need a day at KOH, so if parts are waiting when I get home (land at 830pm tonight), I am doing it

 

[fishing fool]

 

[Deckin Around]

Thanks for the offer. I need a day at KOH, so if parts are waiting when I get home (land at 830pm tonight), I am doing it

Ok I can still help with that. If your team doesn’t need parts then I will need you to deliver me a zip-tie.

 

[PlanB]

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Now imagine doing that for five hours straight, and you can get an idea of what winning KOH takes. The sensory overload of processing the correct lines is as taxing as the punishment your body receives. Let's go a step further and put yourself in the right-hand seat. Those guys get the shit kicked out of themselves and are expected to get out and hustle if a problem occurs. I did the codriver thing at KOH with Greg Adler one time; I won't ever do that again.

 

[Deckin Around]

 

[joecfd1]

I would say the team had a successful day yesterday. 1st in class and 2nd overall! My pup was a trooper… she had many miles of chasing yesterday.

 

[ChiliPepperGarage]

Unfortunately had to leave early to take care of some business but I had a blast down there. Took my Jeep but wished I had brought the YXZ instead. I spent most of the time riding in my buddy's Jeep buggy. Making my plans for next year now.

 

[ChiliPepperGarage]

A friend on mine's son works for Gomez Brothers and he got us into their pits (and gave me some cool swag). Check out the cool custom air jack they made to lift the car. They had a few of them laying around.

 

[ChiliPepperGarage]

This is their pre-runner. Was hoping to get a ride in it but they were pretty busy.

Next year I'm going down the weekend before and spending more time. We did Turkey Claw and part of Sledge Hammer in my buddy's Jeep and it was pretty fun. Would like to run all of the trails. We talked about going up to watch the shit show at Chocolate at night but didn't make it. Not sure if I really want to get in the middle of all that but might be fun to watch a little while from a distance.

 

[rivrrts429]

Gonna try to stop by decking around place again today. Whiteworks left his calling card the other day.lol having a blast. Saw riverrat429 for a second. Dropped some $ on a Radio intercom package at PCI..
Service here is terrible with 50k people trying to use it.

It was so good to meet you Jeff. I’m so sorry I couldn’t stay. My 14 year old (weekend co-driver lol) was starving and we were looking for our friends that had our food lol

Hope you guys had a great time. KOH is a great event. Especially when the weather is good like it was last weekend.

We had a blast. Got a quick shot of my race car on our ride with Jeremy McGrath ( :45 seconds). He thought it was hilarious I brought my race car for a booze cruise type ride

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These Surron E-Bikes have been a great investment. Fun as hell!

 

[whiteworks]

just when you thought you’d seen it all out here, we were at the outpost taking care of important business and someone mentions they have crab dinner that are the bomb. Well fuck me, it was delicious and now not only am I here for the soft serve ice cream, coffee sunrises, and maybe some racing, but I’m here for the crab legs too

Two cars that caught my eye at contingency were cody and shannons, holy shit these thing were both amazing examples of what the 4400 class is all about, our guys are like 55th off the start this morning, I missed the team meeting as I’m on vacation and was taking a nap after my crab leg dinner it’s really nice to not have any obligations out here, it may be my new thing

 

[whiteworks]

just when you thought you’d seen it all out here, we were at the outpost taking care of important business and someone mentions they have crab dinner that are the bomb. Well fuck me, it was delicious and now not only am I here for the soft serve ice cream, coffee sunrises, and maybe some racing, but I’m here for the crab legs too

Two cars that caught my eye at contingency were cody and shannons, holy shit these thing were both amazing examples of what the 4400 class is all about, our guys are like 55th off the start this morning, I missed the team meeting as I’m on vacation and was taking a nap after my crab leg dinner it’s really nice to not have any obligations out here, it may be my new thing
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[pwerwagn]

just when you thought you’d seen it all out here, we were at the outpost taking care of important business and someone mentions they have crab dinner that are the bomb. Well fuck me, it was delicious and now not only am I here for the soft serve ice cream, coffee sunrises, and maybe some racing, but I’m here for the crab legs too

Two cars that caught my eye at contingency were cody and shannons, holy shit these thing were both amazing examples of what the 4400 class is all about, our guys are like 55th off the start this morning, I missed the team meeting as I’m on vacation and was taking a nap after my crab leg dinner it’s really nice to not have any obligations out here, it may be my new thing
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Shannon’s, Cody’s and Loren’s were the 3 that caught my eye. Even when they aren’t moving they are amazing to look at.

The other car that caught my eye I saw rolling around camp a few times was the wide open designs rzr. Basically a full tube buggy with rzr drivetrain but with WOD’s typical details. Obviously nothing like the 4400 cars but pretty cool “budget” ish crawler that can go fast too.

—Jeff

 

[Ol Man]

What is also amazing is that Shannon's car has a passenger seat.

 

[pwerwagn]

Dang, sucks that Cody/Cameron’s car broke.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Hell of a race… been a complete shit show.

Gomez had it in the bag and flipped on nothing crazy.

Be stoked if Currie wins.

Can am 2nd!?!?!?

 

[Singleton]

Hell of a race… been a complete shit show.

Gomez had it in the bag and flipped on nothing crazy.

Be stoked if Currie wins.

Can am 2nd!?!?!?

WTF / had to stop watching - guess I catch the replay

 

[rivrrts429]

Nothing against Casey but these idiots talking about Currie’s wins in Baja and stateline races. When you’re the only car in your class then ya you’re going to win lol

Crazy turn of events. Chaney could win this in a CanAm if Currie has issues like his driveline right now.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Casey out….

Can am in physical lead but they said he missed a trail and has a 5 min penalty.

Loren Healy looking good right now.

 

[Dunerking]

Wow,leading the KOH is cursed this year! Chaney’s Can-Am is beat but potentially won.

 

[DarkJuJu]

Golf cart just won Hammers! Without the 37s I don't think he would have made it.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Can am will get 2nd or 3rd on time.