Israel at war?

[Jonas Grumby]

Looks like charges at the base of the building

 

[Backlash]

If we are going to send support and involve ourselves in a matter in a foreign country, we need to respond with the most aggressive offensive measure imaginable. Level the entire fucking place and make a statement for the world to see.

You want our support and our resources?? That's fine, but we're going to fix this problem once and for all.

But we all know this will never happen..... Too much money to be made with a neverending war.

 

[Sandlord]

Just eliminate Gaza already.
I’ve never heard of anything good about that shithole.
Its the size of Portland, Shouldn’t take long.
The West Bank is about 40 miles away, round up the busses.

 

[TonyFanelli]

Guess we all now know why we got the alerts on our phones last week...

 

[92562]

Ben Shapiro showed some incredibly graphic video. Hamas is truly evil. The way they mutilate the Jewish people after killing them is disgusting not to mention the sodomizing while they are alive. They think they can break the will of the Jewish people, FAFO. And even after that, the Jewish leadership warned Palestinian citizens to leave the area prior Israel's retaliation. I know you are supposed to look into the face of evil but that is some crap I can't unsee.

 

[Racey]

Israel is more than capable of taking out the trash, they don't need any more of our money, or guns.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Israel is more than capable of taking out the trash, they don't need any more of our money, or guns.

I hope they go after the source of all this hate..Iran.

This shit would stop and I believe Russia would say and do nothing about it.

 

[Racey]

I hope they go after the source of all this hate..Iran.

This shit would stop and I believe Russia would say and do nothing about it.

I'm just thankful the "Adults are back in charge" here in the US

 

[Racey]

Taiwan comin next.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

I'm just thankful the "Adults are back in charge" here in the US

Never forget, Trump said Pussy.

 

[4Waters]

Never forget, Trump said Pussy.

I'll never forget

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Taiwan comin next.

And Biden will pen a strongly worded letter.

 

[Racey]

And Biden will pen a strongly worded letter.

Condemning Taiwan for their aggressive behavior.

 

[mobldj]

fuck hamas,sand monkeys.small tactical nuke them fuckers

 

[rrrr]

Are these buildings being hit by rockets? Or bombs planted inside? Social media is saying thousands of rockets were launched but even when I slow this video down as much as i can, i do not see anything hit the building? Just an explosion then implosion. I am just trying to understand, any insight would be appreciated.

The video doesn't have a sufficient frame rate to reveal something traveling as fast as a guided munition.

The buildings were destroyed by precision guided munitions, or PGMs, probably the GPS guided JDAM iron bombs that have steerable fins. The secondary explosions seen as the building are collapsing are almost certainly from explosives or munitions stored in the buildings by Hamas, and that's why they were attacked and destroyed.

The Israeli Defense Forces aren't attacking random buildings. There are specific reasons why those structures shown in the video were taken down.

Joint Direct Attack Munition - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

In its most accurate mode, the JDAM system will provide a minimum weapon accuracy CEP of 16 feet (5 m) or less when a GPS signal is available. If the GPS signal is jammed or lost, the JDAM can still achieve a 98-foot (30 m) CEP or less for free flight times up to 100 seconds.

CEP is an acronym for circular error probable, or the diameter of a circle in which the munition will hit.

 

[500bbc]

It's been over 48 hours since the attacks began, and there still hasn't been a statement from Obama condemning the murder of hundreds of Israeli citizens.

What a piece of shit.

Hard to stop for a statement when you're celebrating...

 

[500bbc]

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Aloha Snackbar!

 

[Member: 71]

Gaza is getting pounded. Explosions every 5 mins. Daylight is going to show some serious damage.

 

[RiverDave]

Israel is more than capable of taking out the trash, they don't need any more of our money, or guns.

Truth..

 

[PlanB]

Are these buildings being hit by rockets? Or bombs planted inside? Social media is saying thousands of rockets were launched but even when I slow this video down as much as i can, i do not see anything hit the building? Just an explosion then implosion. I am just trying to understand, any insight would be appreciated.

I wonder if Israel has sappers on the ground. It does look like demolition by explosives.

 

[whiteworks]

These guys have been throwing rocks at each other for a couple thousand years, they just have bigger rocks now. I heard no one likes the Jews because they were sheep herders and sheep eat grass down to the root and then the land can not be grazed on vs. cattle just take the top and it grows back and can be grazed on quickly.

Religions are awesome

 

[RiverDave]

These guys have been throwing rocks at each other for a couple thousand years, they just have bigger rocks now. I heard no one likes the Jews because they were sheep herders and sheep eat grass down to the root and then the land can not be grazed on vs. cattle just take the top and it grows back and can be grazed on quickly.

Religions are awesome

Pretty sure you are referring to America and the formation of the blm with that story..

 

[regor]

Notice Something About This Israeli War and The Gaza Conflict? - The Last Refuge

The coverage of the attacks by Hamas against the Israeli people is extensive, but have you paused to notice a very peculiar dynamic? As familiar to most news consumers, various media war correspondents are embedded throughout the Israel and Gaza region. Flak jackets and helmets are worn by CNN...

theconservativetreehouse.com

The coverage of the attacks by Hamas against the Israeli people is extensive, but have you paused to notice a very peculiar dynamic?

As familiar to most news consumers, various media war correspondents are embedded throughout the Israel and Gaza region. Flak jackets and helmets are worn by CNN, BBC, Fox News and all the international agencies who are covering the Israeli War. All of that footage is common and familiar.

Television streams are lit up with the continuing coverage and the audience is brought in live to the fight, despite the dangers and the military combat that is taking place throughout the area. Brave war correspondents are doing what they do, showing the public exactly what is happening on the ground as the fighting continues.

Yet, the extensive footage triggers a reminder of something….

The war in Ukraine has been raging for 20 months, and not once, not even one single time, did we see simultaneous international war correspondents delivering their reporting, showing action on the front lines, donning their protective gear and taking the audience toward the battles in a similar fashion.

The contrast between the War in Israel and the “War” in Ukraine could not be starker when viewed through the prism of what a real combat war looks like.

Why is that?



You know the answer to that question.

 

[DWC]

The buildings were destroyed by precision guided munitions, or PGMs, probably the GPS guided JDAM iron bombs that have steerable fins. The secondary explosions seen as the building are collapsing are almost certainly from explosives or munitions stored in the buildings by Hamas, and that's why they were attacked and destroyed.

Seems like they would have moved everything out pre-strike. . No way Hamas didn’t know what the repercussions would be.
There’s obviously a bigger play. Time will certainly tell what that is.

 

[whiteworks]

Pretty sure you are referring to America and the formation of the blm with that story..

I dunno, pretty sure they talk about sheep a lot in the Bible stuff but then again I’m no theologian. I’m sure someone will be along shortly to educate me

 

[Justsomeguy]

Taiwan comin next.

That would be assured WW3 as would Iran, hezbula or Syria entering the conflict in Gaza.

 

[TonyFanelli]

These guys have been throwing rocks at each other for a couple thousand years, they just have bigger rocks now. I heard no one likes the Jews because they were sheep herders and sheep eat grass down to the root and then the land can not be grazed on vs. cattle just take the top and it grows back and can be grazed on quickly.

Religions are awesome

But cows cause methane gas that further depletes the ozone...ask AOC and Omar

 

[Member: 71]

I dunno, pretty sure they talk about sheep a lot in the Bible stuff but then again I’m no theologian. I’m sure someone will be along shortly to educate me

My brother... here is good verse I learned in Sunday service.

“Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." ​

​

 

[Mandelon]

There's 2,000,000 people in Gaza. I'd venture to say most of them are not Hamas members. Turning it to glass wouldn't play well on the world stage. Especially since Isreal and several Arab countries have almost normalized relations.

Iran backing this could certainly help drive a wedge into Jew/Arab progress. Which may have been the plan. There's a lot of moving parts.

Isreal does some shitty stuff to Palestinians. Bulldozing homes, moving into their neighborhoods to take more of their settlements. But generally the feeling is if the Palestinians laid down their weapons there would be peace. If Isreal laid down their weapons, there would be no more Isreal. That's probably pretty darn true.

Why doesn't the rest of the Muslim world do more to help their Palestinian brothers? Egypt has built a wall for a reason it seems.

 

[welldigger00]

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

My brother... here is good verse I learned in Sunday service.

“Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." ​

​

Ah Pulp Fiction reference.

 

[PlanB]

There's 2,000,000 people in Gaza. I'd venture to say most of them are not Hamas members. Turning it to glass wouldn't play well on the world stage. Especially since Isreal and several Arab countries have almost normalized relations.

Iran backing this could certainly help drive a wedge into Jew/Arab progress. Which may have been the plan. There's a lot of moving parts.

Isreal does some shitty stuff to Palestinians. Bulldozing homes, moving into their neighborhoods to take more of their settlements. But generally the feeling is if the Palestinians laid down their weapons there would be peace. If Isreal laid down their weapons, there would be no more Isreal. That's probably pretty darn true.

Why doesn't the rest of the Muslim world do more to help their Palestinian brothers? Egypt has built a wall for a reason it seems.

Israel left Gaza in 2005, both civilians and military. They get repaid by continued terrorist attacks. Israel was bulldozing homes of terrorist, which I think is a rational response. Israel is not the problem. The problem is the Muslim world that wants to eliminate the state of Israel, and Iran is the number one backer of terrorism against Israel. Iran has been a problem since 1979 and they should have been dealt with long ago. Trump had it right when he targeted Soleimani. Iran got really quiet after that. The only thing countries like Iran understand is violence. Let go of the leash and let Israel go after iran.

 

[azsunfun]

Threaten the hostages, and open hell Israel responds with more bombings. Times of Israel gives good updates.

 

[Racey]

There's 2,000,000 people in Gaza. I'd venture to say most of them are not Hamas members. Turning it to glass wouldn't play well on the world stage. Especially since Isreal and several Arab countries have almost normalized relations.

Iran backing this could certainly help drive a wedge into Jew/Arab progress. Which may have been the plan. There's a lot of moving parts.

Isreal does some shitty stuff to Palestinians. Bulldozing homes, moving into their neighborhoods to take more of their settlements. But generally the feeling is if the Palestinians laid down their weapons there would be peace. If Isreal laid down their weapons, there would be no more Isreal. That's probably pretty darn true.

Why doesn't the rest of the Muslim world do more to help their Palestinian brothers? Egypt has built a wall for a reason it seems.

Hamas is the democratically elected majority government party of Palestine. The majority there in fact does seem to support them.

 

[Mandelon]

I'm not arguing in favor of their terrorist ways, just thinking not every single one of their population is onboard with what Hamas is doing.

Biden is our president, he represents maybe 40% of us? California is in the hands of liberal loon majority, my vote doesn't seem to count.

 

[Backlash]

Hamas is the democratically elected majority government party of Palestine. The majority there in fact does seem to support them.

Are you sure? I read somewhere they haven't had an "Election" in Gaza since 2007 when Hamas gained control. I'm no expert, so take that with a few grains of salt.

 

[rrrr]

Seems like they would have moved everything out pre-strike. . No way Hamas didn’t know what the repercussions would be.
There’s obviously a bigger play. Time will certainly tell what that is.

Why is the default response to just about everything today that there's an underlying conspiracy theory? It doesn't require much thinking to understand the IDF knows where Hamas government and terror operations are based, and those structures are being destroyed.

Israel possesses airborne weapons that strike within a few feet of the target. This stuff isn't random, and that's the "play."

 

[Smitty7]

Is my understanding correct ? The jews came in after ww2 and just shoved the arabs off their land and took it. Is that why the arabs hate them ?

 

[DWC]

Why is the default response to just about everything today that there's an underlying conspiracy theory? It doesn't require much thinking to understand the IDF knows where Hamas government and terror operations are based, and those structures are being destroyed.

Israel possesses airborne weapons that strike within a few feet of the target. This stuff isn't random, and that's the "play."

Wrong guy. No conspiracies here.
Hamas executed a full scale attack knowing that there would be an immediate response. There’s no way they thought it was a one and done. You don’t kill that many civilians or take that many hostages if you want it to be over.

 

[Orange Juice]

Is my understanding correct ? The jews came in after ww2 and just shoved the arabs off their land and took it. Is that why the arabs hate them ?

The short story maybe.
But it really goes back much further. To the days of Ali BaBA and his 40 thieves.

 

[rrrr]

Is my understanding correct ? The jews came in after ww2 and just shoved the arabs off their land and took it. Is that why the arabs hate them ?

The hate has been there for centuries. The idea of a Jewish state began decades before WWII, and the possibility it would happen was focused by the Balfour Declaration in 1917.

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

After the war, Jewish factions increased the pressure for the creation of Israel, which, ironically, included terrorist attacks on British targets in what was then called Palestine but was actually a part of the British Empire. The attacks included the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which was led by future prime minister Menachem Begin. It killed dozens of people.

When the nation was established in 1948, there were immediate calls for its destruction by Arab nations surrounding the country. Those efforts continue to this day, principally financed by Iran, Syria, and Lebanon.

This is just a brief overview. You'll have to do some investigation to gather more facts.

 

[whiteworks]

Is my understanding correct ? The jews came in after ww2 and just shoved the arabs off their land and took it. Is that why the arabs hate them ?

I’m pretty sure it’s about sheep and grazing disputes from like 2000+ years ago. These guys all need to get over what ever is up there ass and move on with life.

It don’t matter these fuckers will still be throwing rocks at each other in 2000 more years arguing over nursery rhymes and fairy tales of blood and wine.

 

[PlanB]

Is my understanding correct ? The jews came in after ww2 and just shoved the arabs off their land and took it. Is that why the arabs hate them ?

Jews have been on that land for almost 2000 years. The land has been fought over and has changed hands many times. Here is a link that shows an overview of Jewish history in what is now Israel.

Israel Before the State | My Jewish Learning

Before the State.

www.myjewishlearning.com

 

[rivrrts429]

Why is the default response to just about everything today that there's an underlying conspiracy theory? It doesn't require much thinking to understand the IDF knows where Hamas government and terror operations are based, and those structures are being destroyed.

Israel possesses airborne weapons that strike within a few feet of the target. This stuff isn't random, and that's the "play."

I didn’t recognize any conspiracy theories.

 

[Wedgy]

There's 2,000,000 people in Gaza. I'd venture to say most of them are not Hamas members. Turning it to glass wouldn't play well on the world stage. Especially since Isreal and several Arab countries have almost normalized relations.

Iran backing this could certainly help drive a wedge into Jew/Arab progress. Which may have been the plan. There's a lot of moving parts.

Isreal does some shitty stuff to Palestinians. Bulldozing homes, moving into their neighborhoods to take more of their settlements. But generally the feeling is if the Palestinians laid down their weapons there would be peace. If Isreal laid down their weapons, there would be no more Isreal. That's probably pretty darn true.

Why doesn't the rest of the Muslim world do more to help their Palestinian brothers? Egypt has built a wall for a reason it seems.

Problem. The Palestinians hate Israel. They hate the Jews. They want all Israeli's dead, Israel erased. Palestinians harbor Hamas.
Solution. Erase Hamas and the Palestinians. Wipe Gaza clean. If Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia want to fuck around, they'll find out too.

Israel offered the Palestinians to stay in peace and be citizens of Israel from the very beginning. They made their own bed by refusing that offer. An offer made by ZERO Arab countries. Why? They don't GAF, that's why. FAFO, it's on now. Kill them all, let God sort it out.

We aren't even close to where The borders of Israel reach the limits the Jews led by Moses walked for 40 years.

 

[regor]

Let's stay focused boys.

 

[Justsomeguy]

Is my understanding correct ? The jews came in after ww2 and just shoved the arabs off their land and took it. Is that why the arabs hate them ?

A bit more complicated. What does the Bible say about Jerusalem and who's there?

 

[500bbc]

Notice Something About This Israeli War and The Gaza Conflict? - The Last Refuge

The coverage of the attacks by Hamas against the Israeli people is extensive, but have you paused to notice a very peculiar dynamic? As familiar to most news consumers, various media war correspondents are embedded throughout the Israel and Gaza region. Flak jackets and helmets are worn by CNN...

theconservativetreehouse.com

The coverage of the attacks by Hamas against the Israeli people is extensive, but have you paused to notice a very peculiar dynamic?

As familiar to most news consumers, various media war correspondents are embedded throughout the Israel and Gaza region. Flak jackets and helmets are worn by CNN, BBC, Fox News and all the international agencies who are covering the Israeli War. All of that footage is common and familiar.

Television streams are lit up with the continuing coverage and the audience is brought in live to the fight, despite the dangers and the military combat that is taking place throughout the area. Brave war correspondents are doing what they do, showing the public exactly what is happening on the ground as the fighting continues.

Yet, the extensive footage triggers a reminder of something….

The war in Ukraine has been raging for 20 months, and not once, not even one single time, did we see simultaneous international war correspondents delivering their reporting, showing action on the front lines, donning their protective gear and taking the audience toward the battles in a similar fashion.

The contrast between the War in Israel and the “War” in Ukraine could not be starker when viewed through the prism of what a real combat war looks like.

Why is that?



You know the answer to that question.

Cha Ching!

 

[500bbc]

Hamas is the democratically elected majority government party of Palestine. The majority there in fact does seem to support them.

Democratically? Like our current democratic voting?

 

[aka619er]

Unfortunately this is another war that cannot be won. Fighting an opponent that is unidentifiable and plays by no rules. Isreal would have to go in and kill every fighting age male the same as we would of had to do with the Taliban. They all hide and change outfits and then jump out of the shadows when they have the numbers again. It wasn't the people on the street that orchestrated and fired thousands of rockets at Isreal. Sadly the innocent will pay on both sides.