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We all hope to see this guy get paid.
Don't mis interpret this- the seller in this case C29 either has title or has a loan that he is responsible for (ocm won't be making sellers payment IF one exists). So, if ocm sold boat 2 months ago that means that OCM has already transferred title to new owner and has been doing whatever OCM wants with the sellers money (while IF there is a lien forces seller to make unnecessary payments).
Yes OCM should protect themselves, this should have been done at the time the boat was dropped off and contract signed. As a positive here, hopefully OCM changes the way they do paperwork in the future so these issues don't come here again.
Bottom line here that some are missing imo is that a boat was sold possibly over 60 days ago for possibly around $60k (if even accurate). That's a thousand a day for the seller to do with as he chooses. By ocm selling the boat doesn't mean they get the money (for any amount of time)
In another recent case with another broker, a guy was sentenced to do time. Robbing Peter to pay Paul and floating business transactions might work for a while but in time and over time is gonna catch up.
Maybe for the future sellers that do consignments can add an expectation to receiving payment in full with a time line to hold brokers more accountable(?).
 

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I want to thank River Dave for his assistance in this.

The "letter" has been signed and sent.

All paperwork has been signed and
In possession of OCM since May 7th.

Banks been open for over an hour today.

I have stated only facts and posted the evidence of OCMs BS, I still don't think OCM will pay today. He will have some other thing come up, or want the "letter" changed right before banks close. Just like
The "letter" yesterday was another plot to delay payment.

In conclusion, I had an agreement with a business owner and we shook hands on that agreement. He has since defaulted on that agreement. He is a piss poor business owner and even less of a person for making a deal and breaking it. All his "paperwork" non sense is too delay payments.

All paperwork is there, where is my F ing Money Tim!

You can go your entire life or career building a brand and personal character, and ruin it all in one action or statement. I think Tim is ruined.

I have no dog in this fight just hope things work out for all involved. Just remember when people get fucked they are usually not the first and definitely not the last victim.
 

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River Dave,

Afternoon? Why not now?
He's buying time, he ll say bank is processing it and won't be cleared till tomorrow, we missed the cutoff time, I'll deposit first thing tomorrow..... Etc

He's done fooling me, but I'll wait till this afternoon. What's another day 😏

Thanks again Dave, much respect. No matter of the outcome today.
 

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We all hope to see this guy get paid.
Don't mis interpret this- the seller in this case C29 either has title or has a loan that he is responsible for (ocm won't be making sellers payment IF one exists). So, if ocm sold boat 2 months ago that means that OCM has already transferred title to new owner and has been doing whatever OCM wants with the sellers money (while IF there is a lien forces seller to make unnecessary payments).
Yes OCM should protect themselves, this should have been done at the time the boat was dropped off and contract signed. As a positive here, hopefully OCM changes the way they do paperwork in the future so these issues don't come here again.
Bottom line here that some are missing imo is that a boat was sold possibly over 60 days ago for possibly around $60k (if even accurate). That's a thousand a day for the seller to do with as he chooses. By ocm selling the boat doesn't mean they get the money (for any amount of time)
In another recent case with another broker, a guy was sentenced to do time. Robbing Peter to pay Paul and floating business transactions might work for a while but in time and over time is gonna catch up.
Maybe for the future sellers that do consignments can add an expectation to receiving payment in full with a time line to hold brokers more accountable(?).

For the sake of repeating myself.. OCM's paperwork and policy is that the seller will be funded within 30 days of the boat selling. (obviously that's not the case here, for whatever reason)

As for the rest, yes Tim had changed his policies, tightened up his paperwork (according to Tim on all this.. I haven't seen it or asked too), this deal came in right before those changes.

As for the rest, again it gets into he said she said.. Tim claims the guy told him to cancel the check. Tim claims he cancelled the wire.. This guy claims exactly the opposite. I have no idea, nor do I give one fuck about it..

At the end of the day (for the 100th time)

Tim told the seller, and told myself. He needs this one piece of paper, and the guy will be funded. Guy gave him the paper last night. Tim should fund the guy today. If for some reason he doesn't? Then there's the answer to your riddle. If the seller is funded TODAY, then the idea that he's robbing peter to pay paul, doesn't exactly pan out, and it again was more then likely protecting himself, and poor communication skills with the customer.

I know of at least one other boat that is supposed to get funded today as well. I expect both will be.

RD
 

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River Dave,

Afternoon? Why not now?
He's buying time, he ll say bank is processing it and won't be cleared till tomorrow, we missed the cutoff time, I'll deposit first thing tomorrow..... Etc

He's done fooling me, but I'll wait till this afternoon. What's another day 

Thanks again Dave, much respect. No matter of the outcome today.

Dick Tracy here, as I continue to investigate this cluster fuck I am reminded that RD is the smartest guy in a one man room, LOL
 

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River Dave,

Afternoon? Why not now?
He's buying time, he ll say bank is processing it and won't be cleared till tomorrow, we missed the cutoff time, I'll deposit first thing tomorrow..... Etc

He's done fooling me, but I'll wait till this afternoon. What's another day 

Thanks again Dave, much respect. No matter of the outcome today.

I can answer that if you want, but then it just opens up another "Well fuck this isn't as important as that.. and he should.."

Bottom line is he said this afternoon. You did your part, just wait and see if he does his. I'm betting that he will. If for some reason he doesn't then I guess you gotta cross that bridge when you come to it. You're not at the bridge yet.. (At least not for another 6-7 hours).

RD
 

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If you and I are standing in a room, I'm still the smartest guy.. So now we're up to a 2 man room. :D

RD

This is going to go another sideways. Come on peeps, I thought we were singing kumbyya today?
 

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Well....
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Anyone know what time wires/direct deposits needs to be completed by. I believe it is 2pm PST. Just wondering when we can see if payment was made or not.
 

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That kind of dough their will be a hold on it before it even goes through unless it was a wire...
 

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Would you like me to run my board like that guy? Because if I did I would've banned you for that comment alone.

RD

No, he would have already had attorneys write some cease and desist letters....but hey, I was in the right and the money was eventually returned to me 6 months later and it was all swept underneath the carpet by that fucktard.
I know you have more integrity than that.
 

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Anyone know what time wires/direct deposits needs to be completed by. I believe it is 2pm PST. Just wondering when we can see if payment was made or not.

By end of business today it will either be deposited or it won't.. The funds may go through tomorrow, but the agreement was deposited by today.
 

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By end of business today it will either be deposited or it won't.. The funds may go through tomorrow, but the agreement was deposited by today.

If not paid today will you unlock the other thread?

Deposited today IMO equals "in my bank account today", not I deposited but it will not show I your account until the banks clears it (usually 1-3 business days).
 

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If not paid today will you unlock the other thread?

Deposited today IMO equals "in my bank account today", not I deposited but it will not show I your account until the banks clears it (usually 1-3 business days).

If the money isn't deposited today then I will absolutely unlock the other thread, and the first post in it after the unlock will say "The agreement that I bore witness too was not honored by OCM"

I have more faith in Tim then that though, so I suspect again that this will never happen. He has given me his word that it would be taken care of this afternoon, and I have no reason to doubt him.

I guess we will find out in the next 4 hours and 52 minutes. There is zero excuse that I would find acceptable for that deposit not being made.

RD
 

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If not paid today will you unlock the other thread?

Deposited today IMO equals "in my bank account today", not I deposited but it will not show I your account until the banks clears it (usually 1-3 business days).

when ever I do a wire... I fax them the cover sheet...I'm aready an ass hole... don't want anyone calling me a crook

but I will say this... the check is in the mail doesn't mean shit to most people..the check is in my hand ,about the same...got my money in my hand always works:thumbup:
 

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If the money isn't deposited today then I will absolutely unlock the other thread, and the first post in it after the unlock will say "The agreement that I bore witness too was not honored by OCM"

I have more faith in Tim then that though, so I suspect again that this will never happen. He has given me his word that it would be taken care of this afternoon, and I have no reason to doubt him.

I guess we will find out in the next 4 hours and 52 minutes. There is zero excuse that I would find acceptable for that deposit not being made.

RD

would that be minimizing:D

and put the hammer away...:yikes
 

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If the money isn't deposited today then I will absolutely unlock the other thread, and the first post in it after the unlock will say "The agreement that I bore witness too was not honored by OCM"

I have more faith in Tim then that though, so I suspect again that this will never happen. He has given me his word that it would be taken care of this afternoon, and I have no reason to doubt him.

I guess we will find out in the next 4 hours and 52 minutes. There is zero excuse that I would find acceptable for that deposit not being made.

RD


It's "than"...
 

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I would also EXPECT that if and when this guy gets funded today (and my other buddy as well) that everyone will understand why I will delete this thread and the original one. I would also expect all of these people that have said all this bullshit about robbing peter to pay paul, and the countless other accusations to offer Tim an apology on here. If they don't... Well then maybe we can tie a few of them to a stake and have some gas cans ready. :D See how they like it.

RD
 

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I would also EXPECT that if and when this guy gets funded today (and my other buddy as well) that everyone will understand why I will delete this thread and the original one. I would also expect all of these people that have said all this bullshit about robbing peter to pay paul, and the countless other accusations to offer Tim an apology on here. If they don't... Well then maybe we can tie a few of them to a stake and have some gas cans ready. :D See how they like it.

RD

I've had it happen here...takes for ever for the burns to heal:(
 

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I would also EXPECT that if and when this guy gets funded today (and my other buddy as well) that everyone will understand why I will delete this thread and the original one. I would also expect all of these people that have said all this bullshit about robbing peter to pay paul, and the countless other accusations to offer Tim an apology on here. If they don't... Well then maybe we can tie a few of them to a stake and have some gas cans ready. :D See how they like it.

RD

Could you give us your thoughts if it doesn't fund today ? [emoji2]
 

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I would also EXPECT that if and when this guy gets funded today (and my other buddy as well) that everyone will understand why I will delete this thread and the original one. I would also expect all of these people that have said all this bullshit about robbing peter to pay paul, and the countless other accusations to offer Tim an apology on here. If they don't... Well then maybe we can tie a few of them to a stake and have some gas cans ready. :D See how they like it.

RD

You might need to allow the standard two weeks for anyone to say they are sorry. Or maybe in this case 2 months.
Payment today or not, would you send your mom to do business with anyone that operates like we have heard in this story?
 
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