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So again we come down to the gunshow argument and more registration data. How many of these killers bought their weapons using the gun show loophole? How many would have passed added registration data short of psychiatric evaluation. Something I might add will among the next demands you antis want in your quest take away all gun ownership and rights.

The problem is mind altering prescription drugs taken over many years effecting minds. Not every incident, as some killers are just plain deranged naturally. But the point is, rather than work on solutions to the real problem, you whiny fucks just keep pushing for "no guns".......
 

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So again we come down to the gunshow argument and more registration data. How many of these killers bought their weapons using the gun show loophole? How many would have passed added registration data short of psychiatric evaluation. Something I might add will among the next demands you antis want in your quest take away all gun ownership and rights.

The problem is mind altering prescription drugs taken over many years effecting minds. Not every incident, as some killers are just plain deranged naturally. But the point is, rather than work on solutions to the real problem, you whiny fucks just keep pushing for "no guns".......

Hey OT, let me clarify the Arizona instant background check. They (FBI) state that NO DATA IS RETAINED. But thats the FBI saying that. So, take it for what its worth.
 

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393 million (you're off by a factor of x13) and y'all still aren't confident enough in your masculinity to say enough is enough.
Enough is Enough. Drop your political bullshit and call it like it is. Evil exists, and because of that evil, bad things will happen. I will continue to prepare myself and my family to handle those situations. I don't give two fucks if that offends you or anybody else. The problem you speak of can not be handled by adding another law, so try again.
 

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I’m advocating for whatever works to reduce children being murdered in their schools. My Remington 30-06 with its three round capacity does not seem to be the weapon of choice for school shooters. My AR15 is, and we should probably treat them like we treat silencers and short barrels and for the same reasons.

Hahaha you chimp, we’re not talking about hunting deer, we’re talking our right to fight an oppressive government you moron.

We’re a Constitutional Republic and with it comes violence..........especially when they attempt to put their thumb on us. You don’t like that?

Then get the fuck out!

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The 2nd amendment is already on shakey grounds.

Not every American citizen has the right to possess a firearm. The right to a gun has been taken away from many citizens.

One example is a felon.

The second amendment has already been tested in our courts. It’s all a matter of interpretation. But the bottom line is, owning s gun is a privilege, that can be taken away through our court systems.
 

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But taking mine and presumably, yours doesn't have any effect to the problem. Here's my rub, you want to conflate the killing of children with people owning AR's and AR "styled" rifles. How about mini 14's? how about autoloading shotguns? How about revolvers, they to are, by definition, semi-automatic.

If we don't agree with your measures, we want dead kids. That is your message.
Some firearms are far more efficient offensive weapons than others. Perhaps you’ve noticed the military favors an automatic version of your AR15 over the bolt action 30-06 or Remington 870? One of the very few opportunities to escape or kill an active shooter is when he is reloading. Give him a vest full of 30 round magazines (or a couple of those hundred round drums) and some body armor, maybe a suppressor to make it harder for responders to pinpoint his location, a bump stick to go fake-auto and you have about 20x the killing potential of a maniac with a revolver or your bolt action rifle or anything else with less offensively designed capacity.
 

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I didn't see that my apologies. BUT, you made your threat plural.
It was facetious, as I suspect was the original comment about me. Now the member who offered to tear out my throat and piss down it in this thread may have actually meant it.
 
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Some firearms are far more efficient offensive weapons than others. Perhaps you’ve noticed the military favors an automatic version of your AR15 over the bolt action 30-06 or Remington 870? One of the very few opportunities to escape or kill an active shooter is when he is reloading. Give him a vest full of 30 round magazines (or a couple of those hundred round drums) and some body armor, maybe a suppressor to make it harder for responders to pinpoint his location, a bump stick to go fake-auto and you have about 20x the killing potential of a maniac with a revolver or your bolt action rifle or anything else with less offensively designed capacity.

Thanks for making my case why freedom loving citizens should possess an AR over a bolt action. ;)

BTW you should send this to the people of Venezuela. Oops too late! :(
 

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Thanks for making my case why freedom loving citizens should possess an AR over a bolt action. ;)

BTW you should send this to the people of Venezuela. Oops too late! :(
If you can’t stand at the top of your stairwell with a Remington 870 and defend your castle against a couple tweakers, you probably aren’t ready for an AR15.
 

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So again we come down to the gunshow argument and more registration data. How many of these killers bought their weapons using the gun show loophole? How many would have passed added registration data short of psychiatric evaluation. Something I might add will among the next demands you antis want in your quest take away all gun ownership and rights.

The problem is mind altering prescription drugs taken over many years effecting minds. Not every incident, as some killers are just plain deranged naturally. But the point is, rather than work on solutions to the real problem, you whiny fucks just keep pushing for "no guns".......
Offer a solution. I’m game for literally anything that reduces the number of innocents murdered.
 

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Enough is Enough. Drop your political bullshit and call it like it is. Evil exists, and because of that evil, bad things will happen. I will continue to prepare myself and my family to handle those situations. I don't give two fucks if that offends you or anybody else. The problem you speak of can not be handled by adding another law, so try again.
You’re a cop. You probably have to refresh your background check every couple years and maybe even get an occasional psychiatric evaluation. You have a clean criminal history, don’t beat your wife, don’t smoke pot or get totally shit faced and drive your car home (or at least you’re really clever at concealing those activities). All of which makes you pretty likely to be and remain one of the “good guys with a gun”. Now that could change, plenty of cops have gone off the rails and killed a spouse or eaten their own gun as they descend into a dark little rabbit hole, but odds are very good that you’re a good guy. As a good guy, it behooves you to ensure that ONLY good guys have guns. The current system in America ensures that every fucking asshole with $200 bucks can get a gun and use it to harm you and those you love.
 

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If you can’t stand at the top of your stairwell with a Remington 870 and defend your castle against a couple tweakers, you probably aren’t ready for an AR15.

You still can’t address the true meaning of the 2A.........hahahaha

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You’re a cop. You probably have to refresh your background check every couple years and maybe even get an occasional psychiatric evaluation. You have a clean criminal history, don’t beat your wife, don’t smoke pot or get totally shit faced and drive your car home (or at least you’re really clever at concealing those activities). All of which makes you pretty likely to be and remain one of the “good guys with a gun”. Now that could change, plenty of cops have gone off the rails and killed a spouse or eaten their own gun as they descend into a dark little rabbit hole, but odds are very good that you’re a good guy. As a good guy, it behooves you to ensure that ONLY good guys have guns. The current system in America ensures that every fucking asshole with $200 bucks can get a gun and use it to harm you and those you love.

Welcome to living in a free country. With freedom comes a certain level of risk. Unlike you, I don't fall for bullshit sensationalism plaid out in the media. Any way you split it, the number of "good guys with a gun" will always far out weigh the bad guys with guns, and the overwhelming majority of people who own guns will never shot anything other than the occasional target. Why are you so focused on taking freedoms away from law abiding people?
 

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You’re a cop. You probably have to refresh your background check every couple years and maybe even get an occasional psychiatric evaluation. You have a clean criminal history, don’t beat your wife, don’t smoke pot or get totally shit faced and drive your car home (or at least you’re really clever at concealing those activities). All of which makes you pretty likely to be and remain one of the “good guys with a gun”. Now that could change, plenty of cops have gone off the rails and killed a spouse or eaten their own gun as they descend into a dark little rabbit hole, but odds are very good that you’re a good guy. As a good guy, it behooves you to ensure that ONLY good guys have guns. The current system in America ensures that every fucking asshole with $200 bucks can get a gun and use it to harm you and those you love.

Question does the monkey ever get tired.
 

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Offer a solution. I’m game for literally anything that reduces the number of innocents murdered.
I offered you solutions in the other thread.

First order is called personal responsibility. Since you can't seem to figure that out, I will help you. Deal with the person committing the crime, instead of blaming a tool.

Second, ban any and all registered Democrats from owning or even touching a firearm. I'm even good with door to door searches of their houses along with confiscation. You wanna talk about taking the gun out of the hands of the voting base that kills people all the time, well there is your solution.

You can read the other thread from the other solutions.

So when are you turning in all your guns?
 

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You still can’t address the true meaning of the 2A.........hahahaha

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James Madison believed in democracy and intended that you influence your government through elections, not armed revolt against a democratically elected government. George Washington put down one such revolt during the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791 when both rabble and army both carried essentially the same weapons. Today President Trump can simply order up a drone strike or roll an armored vehicle up your drive and laugh at you in your bunker with your AR15. Like I said at the beginning, y’all watched Red Dawn like it was porn and that silly (though admittedly entertaining) film has become the absurd basis for your delusions of manhood.
 

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I offered you solutions in the other thread.

First order is called personal responsibility. Since you can't seem to figure that out, I will help you. Deal with the person committing the crime, instead of blaming a tool.

Second, ban any and all registered Democrats from owning or even touching a firearm. I'm even good with door to door searches of their houses along with confiscation. You wanna talk about taking the gun out of the hands of the voting base that kills people all the time, well there is your solution.

You can read the other thread from the other solutions.

So when are you turning in all your guns?
You want to lock criminals up longer you won’t get an argument from me. Your Democrat line though suggests you don’t take the problem as seriously as you should.

Incidentally, if “Democrats” are killing people you should do your job and convict them so they lose both their voting rights and right to gun ownership. See how easy that is?
 

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You want to lock criminals up longer you won’t get an argument from me. Your Democrat line though suggests you don’t take the problem as seriously as you should.
Not serious.. Hmm.. Pretty sure anybody I've ever dealt with illegally possessing a firearm or using it illegally has been far from the republican voting base.

The demotards want gun control and bans. They should lead by example.

So tell us all again when you are turning in your guns? Or do you think they will magically force you to kill someone some day and you don't want to miss the opportunity?
 

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Thanks for making my case why freedom loving citizens should possess an AR over a bolt action. ;)

BTW you should send this to the people of Venezuela. Oops too late! :(

Have yet to see someone use an AR15 to stop someone with an AR15. I’m assuming the Dayton LE used a 45 to down the perp.

Even the Las Vegas shooter used a hand gun to take his own life.
 

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James Madison believed in democracy and intended that you influence your government through elections, not armed revolt against a democratically elected government. George Washington put down one such revolt during the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791 when both rabble and army both carried essentially the same weapons. Today President Trump can simply order up a drone strike or roll an armored vehicle up your drive and laugh at you in your bunker with your AR15. Like I said at the beginning, y’all watched Red Dawn like it was porn and that silly (though admittedly entertaining) film has become the absurd basis for your delusions of manhood.

What’s taken so long in Afghanistan monkey?

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You want to lock criminals up longer you won’t get an argument from me. Your Democrat line though suggests you don’t take the problem as seriously as you should.

Incidentally, if “Democrats” are killing people you should do your job and convict them so they lose both their voting rights and right to gun ownership. See how easy that is?
Must have caught you on edit.

In case you don't know how it works, I don't get to decide who goes to trial and faces a conviction. I bring the evidence before a judge who then decides what to do with it. Pretty basic stuff here.
 

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Have yet to see someone use an AR15 to stop someone with an AR15. I’m assuming the Dayton LE used a 45 to down the perp.

Even the Las Vegas shooter used a hand gun to take his own life.
NRA instructor used one to stop a church shooter (Sutherland Springs ) shortly after the Florida School shooting (Parkland). You probably don't know about it because it's never talked about... does not fit the narrative you are being sold.

If I could get away with slinging my AR around off duty I would.
 
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Not serious.. Hmm.. Pretty sure anybody I've ever dealt with illegally possessing a firearm or using it illegally has been far from the republican voting base.

The demotards want gun control and bans. They should lead by example.

So tell us all again when you are turning in your guns? Or do you think they will magically force you to kill someone some day and you don't want to miss the opportunity?
And you work in an urban area, right? Who do you think is responsible for all the murder out there in white rural America?
 

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Have yet to see someone use an AR15 to stop someone with an AR15. I’m assuming the Dayton LE used a 45 to down the perp.

Even the Las Vegas shooter used a hand gun to take his own life.

Lesson #1

NEVER BELIEVE THE MEDIA.

Lesson #2

AR’s are more accurate from long range.

Lesson #3

Live to fight another day.
 

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Must have caught you on edit.

In case you don't know how it works, I don't get to decide who goes to trial and faces a conviction. I bring the evidence before a judge who then decides what to do with it. Pretty basic stuff here.
You bring them evidence rather than allegations and you probably do okay. You bring them shit, don’t complain about the outcome.
 

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And you work in an urban area, right? Who do you think is responsible for all the murder out there in white rural America?

Maybe you. And you obviously own guns like you've stated in here. So when are you turning them in?
 

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You bring them evidence rather than allegations and you probably do okay. You bring them shit, don’t complain about the outcome.

hahaha unfortunately you bring the laws with your votes that are soft of crime clown hahaha

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You bring them evidence rather than allegations and you probably do okay. You bring them shit, don’t complain about the outcome.
Shit? Interesting, care to explain? I've yet to arrest anyone for possession of shit, so what exactly do you mean? A few posts ago you seemed to think I was responsible for their conviction. I'm starting to believe you really don't know "shit" about our court system and how it really works.
 

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I’m saying if you don’t do your job well and you bring the court a weak case, don’t be surprised if you lose.
 

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I’ve sent a red flag alert on you to the government. They will be coming for you and your guns shortly.

You are clearly out of your mind.

Your Red Flag on this fucked up Intruder is no doubt one Red Flag of many.The day will come he just vanishes.
 

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Grandpa Mac I rarely come in here but reading this thread somethings have become very apparent to me..

1. Your reading comprehension is terrible. The member didn’t threaten you. Read it again.

He said he “could”. He didn’t say he wanted too. That isn’t a threat he was pointing out the absolute most obvious argument of the gun debate that if someone wanted to kill someone they don’t need a gun to do it.

2. You said you’d like to share some names. That is in fact s threat, one I am considering removing you from this website for.

3. I believe you are a liar. Earlier you were talking about “your” 30/06 and your alAR15. Yet in the next post you discussed how a suppressor and a bumpstock make things 20 times more lethal. Anybody that has even basic knowledge of fire arms would tell you that’s crazy. Suppressors take the edge off they don’t make it quiet like the movies. It’s still loud as shit with them. Bump stocks are a novelty item and you literally can’t hit shit if you use one.

I don’t believe you own an AR or a gun for that matter.

As for the rest.. No Trump nor anyone else can deploy the military against its own citizens. The rest of the debate you either don’t care to hear the actual points or are ignoring them.

Before you go on keepin on though, you are gonna post a pic of your black rifle with a handwritten note that says RDSUX 2019 on it or I’m gonna ban your ass for being a liar and threatening my membership with turning them into the government.

After all that I can tell you about some people that killed a vast number of people without using guns.. I can think of 11 who have a roughly 300 kill avg using box cutters, and guys that took readily available over the counter things and blew up buildings etc.

The guns aren’t here to defend the home. The guns are here to defend liberty. I will happily take two seconds of my life to explain to you why the citizens would win if they revolted, starting with all military grade tech coming out of the private sector, ending with the majority of our own military (and police) would take up arms against.

Strangely the 2nd is a hot bed issue on that front and you nimrods are the ones that keep pushing that issue. Think about it for one second.. Why was Obama the best gun salesman in the history of the USA? The answer is the populace was preparing.


Let’s see that photo buddy..
 
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Grandpa Mac I rarely come in here but reading this thread somethings have become very apparent to me..

1. Your reading comprehension is terrible. The member didn’t threaten you. Read it again.

He said he “could”. He didn’t say he wanted too. That isn’t a threat he was pointing out the absolute most obvious argument of the gun debate that if someone wanted to kill someone they don’t need a gun to do it.

2. You said you’d like to share some names. That is in fact s threat, one I am considering removing you from this website for.

3. I believe you are a liar. Earlier you were talking about “your” 30/06 and your alAR15. Yet in the next post you discussed how a suppressor and a bumpstock make things 20 times more lethal. Anybody that has even basic knowledge of fire arms would tell you that’s crazy. Suppressors take the edge off they don’t make it quiet like the movies. It’s still loud as shit with them. Bump stocks are a novelty item and you literally can’t hit shit if you use one.

I don’t believe you own an AR or a gun for that matter.

As for the rest.. No Trump nor anyone else can deploy the military against its own citizens. The rest of the debate you either don’t care to hear the actual points or are ignoring them.

Before you go on keepin on though, you are gonna post a pic of your black rifle with a handwritten note that says RDSUX 2019 on it or I’m gonna ban your ass for being a liar and threatening my membership with turning them into the government.

After all that I can tell you about some people that killed a vast number of people without using guns.. I can think of 11 who have a roughly 300 kill avg using box cutters, and guys that took readily available over the counter things and blew up buildings etc.

The guns aren’t here to defend the home. The guns are here to defend liberty. I will happily take two seconds of my life to explain to you why the citizens would win if they revolted, starting with all military grade tech coming out of the private sector, ending with the majority of our own military (and police) would take up arms against.

Strangely the 2nd is a hot bed issue on that front and you nimrods are the ones that keep pushing that issue. Think about it for one second.. Why was Obama the best gun salesman in the history of the USA? The answer is the populace was preparing.


Let’s see that photo buddy..
What's next, Dave? We gonna compare dick pics to see who's bigger? Guns don't make a man, and they wouldn't keep a tyrannical government from destroying you like swatting a fly. A gun might protect you from a home invader, but you're delusional in your dreams of standing up to the might of the American military with your little toys. Meanwhile, they are really good for school shootings and domestic murders, and y'all are totally committed to helping the worst in our society to have easy access. I patiently await your apology.

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Grandpa Mac I rarely come in here but reading this thread somethings have become very apparent to me..

1. Your reading comprehension is terrible. The member didn’t threaten you. Read it again.

He said he “could”. He didn’t say he wanted too. That isn’t a threat he was pointing out the absolute most obvious argument of the gun debate that if someone wanted to kill someone they don’t need a gun to do it.

2. You said you’d like to share some names. That is in fact s threat, one I am considering removing you from this website for.

3. I believe you are a liar. Earlier you were talking about “your” 30/06 and your alAR15. Yet in the next post you discussed how a suppressor and a bumpstock make things 20 times more lethal. Anybody that has even basic knowledge of fire arms would tell you that’s crazy. Suppressors take the edge off they don’t make it quiet like the movies. It’s still loud as shit with them. Bump stocks are a novelty item and you literally can’t hit shit if you use one.

I don’t believe you own an AR or a gun for that matter.

As for the rest.. No Trump nor anyone else can deploy the military against its own citizens. The rest of the debate you either don’t care to hear the actual points or are ignoring them.

Before you go on keepin on though, you are gonna post a pic of your black rifle with a handwritten note that says RDSUX 2019 on it or I’m gonna ban your ass for being a liar and threatening my membership with turning them into the government.

After all that I can tell you about some people that killed a vast number of people without using guns.. I can think of 11 who have a roughly 300 kill avg using box cutters, and guys that took readily available over the counter things and blew up buildings etc.

The guns aren’t here to defend the home. The guns are here to defend liberty. I will happily take two seconds of my life to explain to you why the citizens would win if they revolted, starting with all military grade tech coming out of the private sector, ending with the majority of our own military (and police) would take up arms against.

Strangely the 2nd is a hot bed issue on that front and you nimrods are the ones that keep pushing that issue. Think about it for one second.. Why was Obama the best gun salesman in the history of the USA? The answer is the populace was preparing.


Let’s see that photo buddy..
You might also read the thread in its entirety and see I was responding to another of your members who said he had already given my name to the government. But I'm guessing you only give a fuck when you disagree with the politics of the offending party. How many times has 500bc called me a pedophile since you declared that wouldn't be tolerated? It's your site, do as you please. Just don't pretend to be some high-minded libertarian fairly enforcing unbiased civility.
 

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Obama got Osama. The government would have no trouble taking you off the board if that's what they wanted.

You didn’t answer my question monkey!

I understand, for if you did.......your BS theory is blown out of the water. :(
 

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What's next, Dave? We gonna compare dick pics to see who's bigger? Guns don't make a man, and they wouldn't keep a tyrannical government from destroying you like swatting a fly. A gun might protect you from a home invader, but you're delusional in your dreams of standing up to the might of the American military with your little toys. Meanwhile, they are really good for school shootings and domestic murders, and y'all are totally committed to helping the worst in our society to have easy access. I patiently await your apology.

PS This is what I keep in my bedroom. Do you need to see the rest?


What did your neighbor say when you told him your dilemma?

Did he mention therapy maybe?
 

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I’m embarrassed reading these threads this morning.Fucking disgrace.Not once have the families been mentioned,the pain for hundreds of family members Dealing with the loss of family who did not come home.These people need many days of compassion,the media,all of us are too fucked up to give that compassion.What a fucking mess
 

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I’m embarrassed reading these threads this morning.Fucking disgrace.Not once have the families been mentioned,the pain for hundreds of family members Dealing with the loss of family who did not come home.These people need many days of compassion,the media,all of us are too fucked up to give that compassion.What a fucking mess
Well said.
 

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The 2nd amendment is already on shakey grounds.

Not every American citizen has the right to possess a firearm. The right to a gun has been taken away from many citizens.

One example is a felon.

The second amendment has already been tested in our courts. It’s all a matter of interpretation. But the bottom line is, owning s gun is a privilege, that can be taken away through our court systems.

By yore logic, free speech is a privilege. So is citizenship of children born to immigrants, and freedom of slaves.
 

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You might also read the thread in its entirety and see I was responding to another of your members who said he had already given my name to the government. But I'm guessing you only give a fuck when you disagree with the politics of the offending party. How many times has 500bc called me a pedophile since you declared that wouldn't be tolerated? It's your site, do as you please. Just don't pretend to be some high-minded libertarian fairly enforcing unbiased civility.

Only by your own measure, which you have still not ceased to crow about.
For you, not normal people, accusation equals guilt.
Don't like being tarred with your own brush?

Fucking IDIOT!
 

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  1. Yesterday at 7:16 PM#64

    LargeOrangeFontSteers With Throttle

    I’ve sent a red flag alert on you to the government. They will be coming for you and your guns shortly.

    You are clearly out of your mind.

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You responded that you were happy I was able to do so.. and then went on to say you were compiling a list of other members you could not wait to report.

So yea, not the same at all.

The good news is that per usual, your lack of critical thinking and response to blind hate exposed your lunacy once again. It’s getting worse sadly.
 

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What's next, Dave? We gonna compare dick pics to see who's bigger? Guns don't make a man, and they wouldn't keep a tyrannical government from destroying you like swatting a fly. A gun might protect you from a home invader, but you're delusional in your dreams of standing up to the might of the American military with your little toys. Meanwhile, they are really good for school shootings and domestic murders, and y'all are totally committed to helping the worst in our society to have easy access. I patiently await your apology.

PS This is what I keep in my bedroom. Do you need to see the rest?

Just checking you on your BS. I just find it hard to believe that someone could be so ignorant about guns yet own them. You mentioned earlier some people shouldn’t have them, I agree 100%!

Moving forward how many of your guns have been used in a school shooting? How many of anyone you know guns have ever been used in. Violent crime?
 

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You might also read the thread in its entirety and see I was responding to another of your members who said he had already given my name to the government. But I'm guessing you only give a fuck when you disagree with the politics of the offending party. How many times has 500bc called me a pedophile since you declared that wouldn't be tolerated? It's your site, do as you please. Just don't pretend to be some high-minded libertarian fairly enforcing unbiased civility.

Show me that because I didn’t see it. If it’s anything like the threat against you though I’d suggest the problem is with the reading.


As I said before I rarely come in here.. When I do I see what I see and I make my comment. If 500bc is calling you a pedophile I will deal with that.

As for the rest your a typical leftist. (I don’t understand why you’d keep a deer rifle and a rifle Butt in your bedroom btw.. something isn’t right there)
 
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