Gun problem ?

[Danger Dave]

I guess black lives quit mattering for this news cycle.

https://heyjackass.com/

 

[500bbc]

I guess black lives quit mattering for this news cycle.

https://heyjackass.com/

It only matters if a white person kills someone or dies.

 

[Sandlord]

why wasn't it a gun issue when some Bernie supporter tried to kill a bunch of republican congressmen?

 

[500bbc]

why wasn't it a gun issue when some Bernie supporter tried to kill a bunch of republican congressmen?

RACIST!!!!!!

 

[Angler]

It's the Guns!

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

I don’t really spend my days sitting around thinking of ways to kill people..

But you could kill a lot more people without a gun in a variety of different even basic scenarios.

Just to give you one off the top of my head 11 guys killed 3,000 in one of the most public and horrific ways possible using nothing but box cutters. 9-11



You ever do cocaine Grads? Even if you haven’t I’d bet you could get it inside of three phone calls..

That is a highly illegal substance that anybody can get anytime.. Heroine, meth, even weed is a prime example before it became mostly legal?

Koolaid works too

 

[boatdoc55]

Let’s see you do that to 20 people in under 60 seconds. Thanks for proving my point.

Where are you going to find 19 people to help you, idiot. Pfuck, we'd just have to say BOO and you'd piss down your leg

 

[Grandpa mac]

With 30 million some odd guns out there, I don't think guns are the problem... Think about it libtard..

393 million (you're off by a factor of x13) and y'all still aren't confident enough in your masculinity to say enough is enough.

 

[500bbc]

393 million (you're off by a factor of x13) and y'all still aren't confident enough in your masculinity to say enough is enough.

Masculinity?
Is that what goes through your demented mind when you're chaining scouts to your moms basement wall?

 

[Grandpa mac]

It's your side that has no answers. Your side being hateful chickenshit liberals that put their kids on mind altering drugs at the drop of a hat. Folks that beg for open borders to help those who can't make it in countries their forebearers allowed to be overrun with crime and the same type of governments you want to install in the US. Backing hate from the ME and allowing them to gain office and try and bring socialism here to steal our freedom.

Your folks take the sting out of the legal system that deters crimes and puts felons and psychopaths back on the street to rob and kill. You have no solution what ever to seek out and tend to the mentally unstable that commit these shootings. Other than take away the guns law abiding society keeps to protect them from your creations......

Funny you speak of the movie Red Dawn. It's a story of how the nation was attacked and how kids from the heartland stood their ground. Unlike those like you who gave in and begged for their pitifull existence to live under socialist rule. If you were in the movie, you would have been the mayor that sold out the heroes.

You have lost or never had a clue of the spirit that started this nation and how that spirit lives in all who have maintained the freedoms set forth by the FF's. Your blathering rhetoric that freedom allows you to puke out, is filled with hate, contempt, and ignorance. Your scolding is filled with ignorance and avoidance of how to stand tall and correct wrongs and put down the evil that has crawled into our country due to folks just like your self.

You are a faceless internet troll who hides behind a keyboard spouting out where you've been, but never who you are.....You're either a nobody troll, or a spineless liberal. And honestly, no one cares whic

My side has universal background checks and red flag laws as two of its top priorities, and even Trump is starting to speak in favor of them- though I doubt he'll follow through.

 

[Grandpa mac]

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I don’t really spend my days sitting around thinking of ways to kill people..

But you could kill a lot more people without a gun in a variety of different even basic scenarios.

Just to give you one off the top of my head 11 guys killed 3,000 in one of the most public and horrific ways possible using nothing but box cutters. 9-11



You ever do cocaine Grads? Even if you haven’t I’d bet you could get it inside of three phone calls..

That is a highly illegal substance that anybody can get anytime.. Heroine, meth, even weed is a prime example before it became mostly legal?

And that required a whole lot more planning than the losers who decide to buy an AR15 and 200 rounds of ammo. Hell you could walk into that gun shop on London Bridge Road, get you gun and be on the bridge shooting Labor Day weekend revelers on the channel inside 20 minutes. It takes more time to get a table at Chilis on a Friday night than to pull off a mass shooting in this country. Why bother with an elaborate plan? Hell, next Time Al Qaeda sneaks 20 murderers into the country imagine the chaos they'd cause by buying gun show rifles without background investigations and spread out around the country in teams of two to do school shootings. They might not achieve 9/11 numbers but y'all have managed to guarantee easy body counts on your children and grandchildren should they ever feel so inclined. It's time to stop being the easiest country in the world to commit mass murder. Step up with some solutions.

 

[SBMech]

My side has universal background checks and red flag laws as two of its top priorities, and even Trump is starting to speak in favor of them- though I doubt he'll follow through.

Like a fucking broken record. Common sense must have rotted out of your foul mind long ago.

PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. CRAZY/DRUGGED/PSYCHOTICS and PSYCHOPATHS ARE UNSTOPPABLE. They will use ANYTHING to harm people around them.

GUNS prevent PEOPLE who can physically rape/assault/harm you from doing so, they are also FREELY available AROUND THE FUCKING WORLD, with just a few conversations in any dive bar.

NO LAW WILL EVER PROTECT YOUR LOVED ONES AS MUCH AS YOU BEING ARMED AND AWARE WILL.

Your JUDGEMENT of your FELLOW CITIZENS is unworthy of notice, as you simply are nothing in the grand scheme of things, and have NO AUTHORITY to PASS JUDGEMENT on ANYONE.

Fuck you, fuck off, and go rot somewhere other than here you fucking dipshit.

 

[Grandpa mac]

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Guns are not the problem. They are just a tool that the criminal chooses to use. They could use a car, truck, knife , fire , Bomb what ever they choose. All of which are still illegal. It doesn’t matter to a criminal. They don’t follow the laws anyway. I would rather be able to protect myself then die with out a fight.

And WHY do they chose guns? Because they are one of the easiest and most efficient means ever devised for killing people. Other wise, we'd all still be wearing swords and a bloodbath would have one victim instead of 20.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

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And that required a whole lot more planning than the losers who decide to buy an AR15 and 200 rounds of ammo. Hell you could walk into that gun shop on London Bridge Road, get you gun and be on the bridge shooting Labor Day weekend revelers on the channel inside 20 minutes. It takes more time to get a table at Chilis on a Friday night than to pull off a mass shooting in this country. Why bother with an elaborate plan? Hell, next Time Al Qaeda sneaks 20 murderers into the country imagine the chaos they'd cause by buying gun show rifles without background investigations and spread out around the country in teams of two to do school shootings. They might not achieve 9/11 numbers but y'all have managed to guarantee easy body counts on your children and grandchildren should they ever feel so inclined. It's time to stop being the easiest country in the world to commit mass murder. Step up with some solutions.

I’ve sent a red flag alert on you to the government. They will be coming for you and your guns shortly.

You are clearly out of your mind.

 

[Grandpa mac]

We have a drug and mental health problem - not a gun problem.

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• Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and one teacher and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.
• Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. Ten dead, 12 wounded.
• Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
• Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
• Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
• Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for six days.
• Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire, killing two classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
• Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
• A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed standoff at his school.
• Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.
• A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
• Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding ten others.
• TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
• Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
• James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
• Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
• Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
• Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
• Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
• Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledgehammer, hatchet, butcher knife, and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
• Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported having been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
• Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially, it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
• Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
• Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
• Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
• Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
• Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
• (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)
• Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.
• Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
• Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
• Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death, his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
• A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
• Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
• Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed nine students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
• Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax, and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
• Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
• Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
• Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds…

• What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed six people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
• What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
• What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed two injured 1, Clackamas Or
• What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct

The three are not mutually exclusive. We have problems with guns, drugs, and mental health.

 

[SBMech]

A


And that required a whole lot more planning than the losers who decide to buy an AR15 and 200 rounds of ammo. Hell you could walk into that gun shop on London Bridge Road, get you gun and be on the bridge shooting Labor Day weekend revelers on the channel inside 20 minutes. It takes more time to get a table at Chilis on a Friday night than to pull off a mass shooting in this country. Why bother with an elaborate plan? Hell, next Time Al Qaeda sneaks 20 murderers into the country imagine the chaos they'd cause by buying gun show rifles without background investigations and spread out around the country in teams of two to do school shootings. They might not achieve 9/11 numbers but y'all have managed to guarantee easy body counts on your children and grandchildren should they ever feel so inclined. It's time to stop being the easiest country in the world to commit mass murder. Step up with some solutions.

And yet NONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS ARE IN PLAY DAILY.

You should take some time to reflect on reality, so many opportunities, yet it's still a rare event.

Man you are fucking stupid.

 

[530RL]

In Arizona, as Nanga the moderator of the gun section has admitted, any felon, minor, terrorists who crossed into the country illegally, and even an illegal who practices Islam (remember you Trumpkins said all Muslims want to kill us) can purchase from a private party, or from a private party at a gun show, any gun they would like, multiple Magpul 100 round magazines and all the ammunition they would like without any background check whatsoever.

Why any conservative, or for that matter Trump supporters, are willing to fall on their swords to protect illegals, felons, terrorists and minors purchasing any weapon they would like once they come into the country is somewhat puzzling?

Trump supporters are against closing the gun show loophole so they can protect felons, illegals, terrorists and children purchasing any weapon they would like from a private party at a gun show?

Boggles my mind but I guess that is just another reason why I don’t support Mr. Trump’s policies. I don’t think felons, terrorists and children should be purposely exempted from instant background checks. But in reality Trump’s opposition to universal background checks and opposition to closing the gun show loophole does exactly that.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Like a fucking broken record. Common sense must have rotted out of your foul mind long ago.

PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. CRAZY/DRUGGED/PSYCHOTICS and PSYCHOPATHS ARE UNSTOPPABLE. They will use ANYTHING to harm people around them.

GUNS prevent PEOPLE who can physically rape/assault/harm you from doing so, they are also FREELY available AROUND THE FUCKING WORLD, with just a few conversations in any dive bar.

NO LAW WILL EVER PROTECT YOUR LOVED ONES AS MUCH AS YOU BEING ARMED AND AWARE WILL.

Your JUDGEMENT of your FELLOW CITIZENS is unworthy of notice, as you simply are nothing in the grand scheme of things, and have NO AUTHORITY to PASS JUDGEMENT on ANYONE.

Fuck you, fuck off, and go rot somewhere other than here you fucking dipshit.

Comparing our weekly mass murders to any other non war zone country puts the lie to your half baked argument. See how many killers with rocks in Canada have murdered 22 people in an afternoon recently.

 

[Grandpa mac]

I’ve sent a red flag alert on you to the government. They will be coming for you and your guns shortly.

You are clearly out of your mind.

Good, it should be that easy to initiate an investigation into anybody who is potentially violent. There are several names from forum members I look forward to politely sharing when those ATF agents knock on my door.

 

[Grandpa mac]

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And yet NONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS ARE IN PLAY DAILY.

You should take some time to reflect on reality, so many opportunities, yet it's still a rare event.

Man you are fucking stupid.

You don't think that is the sort of scenario the FBI rehearses for daily? Ever met a cop who hasn't been through active shooter training?

 

[Grandpa mac]

In Arizona, as Nanga the moderator of the gun section has admitted, any felon, minor, terrorists who crossed into the country illegally, and even an illegal who practices Islam (remember you Trumpkins said all Muslims want to kill us) can purchase from a private party, or from a private party at a gun show, any gun they would like, multiple Magpul 100 round magazines and all the ammunition they would like without any background check whatsoever.

Why any conservative, or for that matter Trump supporters, are willing to fall on their swords to protect illegals, felons, terrorists and minors purchasing any weapon they would like once they come into the country is somewhat puzzling?

Trump supporters are against closing the gun show loophole so they can protect felons, illegals, terrorists and children purchasing any weapon they would like from a private party at a gun show?

Boggles my mind but I guess that is just another reason why I don’t support Mr. Trump’s policies. I don’t think felons, terrorists and children should be purposely exempted from instant background checks. But in reality Trump’s opposition to universal background checks and opposition to closing the gun show loophole does exactly that.

Yep, yep, yep.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

In Arizona, as Nanga the moderator of the gun section has admitted, any felon, minor, terrorists who crossed into the country illegally, and even an illegal who practices Islam (remember you Trumpkins said all Muslims want to kill us) can purchase from a private party, or from a private party at a gun show, any gun they would like, multiple Magpul 100 round magazines and all the ammunition they would like without any background check whatsoever.

Why any conservative, or for that matter Trump supporters, are willing to fall on their swords to protect illegals, felons, terrorists and minors purchasing any weapon they would like once they come into the country is somewhat puzzling?

Trump supporters are against closing the gun show loophole so they can protect felons, illegals, terrorists and children purchasing any weapon they would like from a private party at a gun show?

Boggles my mind but I guess that is just another reason why I don’t support Mr. Trump’s policies. I don’t think felons, terrorists and children should be purposely exempted from instant background checks. But in reality Trump’s opposition to universal background checks and opposition to closing the gun show loophole does exactly that.

I'm not. I've seen the crowds buying guns at "Crossroads of the west" shows. Its actually frightening.

If I am ok filling out the 4475 (?) at Cabelas, why not have an FBI booth at the shows performing the same function?

I bet you wouldn't get a lot of argument from anyone in here against that. They just haven't seen these shows and what transpires.

 

[530RL]

I'm not. I've seen the crowds buying guns at "Crossroads of the west" shows. Its actually frightening.

If I am ok filling out the 4475 (?) at Cabelas, why not have an FBI booth at the shows performing the same function?

I bet you wouldn't get a lot of argument from anyone in here against that. They just haven't seen these shows and what transpires.

Well let’s see how many or your fellow inmates are willing to publicly support a federal law requiring universal background checks?

It is sitting on McConnels desk.......

I can give you McConnels number if you would like to call him.

 

[boatdoc55]

Yep, Yep, Yep, we have a gun problem in the States NOT ENOUGH OF THEM!!!!!!!

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Well let’s see how many or your fellow inmates are willing to publicly support a federal law requiring universal background checks?

the Arizona process is fast, not intrusive and "supposedly" no records are kept....

As I 've stated numerous times, you can walk into Cabelas, buy a Bushmaster .50BMG, and a 5 x 25 x 56MM Nightforce scope, spend 5 minutes at the bank of terminals to fill the forms out. Get the scope mounted while you're eating a nasty dried out cheeseburger. Pick up 100 rounds of ammo, pay on your way out and you're in business.

A total of 1.5 hours. How is that a hassle?

 

[boatdoc55]

A

And WHY do they chose guns? Because they are one of the easiest and most efficient means ever devised for killing people. Other wise, we'd all still be wearing swords and a bloodbath would have one victim instead of 20.

One can rent a 26' U Haul truck at the drop of a hat. How many would that kill at desert Storm on the Blvd. @ 60 MPH???

 

[500bbc]

A

And WHY do they chose guns? Because they are one of the easiest and most efficient means ever devised for killing people. Other wise, we'd all still be wearing swords and a bloodbath would have one victim instead of 20.

Aren't you just really worried about encountering a Scout with a gun on one your "recruitment " expeditions?

 

[wallnutz]

This gun problem is working out ...

My side has universal background checks and red flag laws as two of its top priorities, and even Trump is starting to speak in favor of them- though I doubt he'll follow through.

 

[500bbc]

the Arizona process is fast, not intrusive and "supposedly" no records are kept....

As I 've stated numerous times, you can walk into Cabelas, buy a Bushmaster .50BMG, and a 5 x 25 x 56MM Nightforce scope, spend 5 minutes at the bank of terminals to fill the forms out. Get the scope mounted while you're eating a nasty dried out cheeseburger. Pick up 100 rounds of ammo, pay on your way out and you're in business.

A total of 1.5 hours. How is that a hassle?

I'm in!

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

I'm in!

If the Arizona model was the standard, its no big deal bud.

The gun show issue is real. I sold guns to guys that I knew better. I had to see it with my own eyes to believe it.

 

[regor]

White Supremacy!!!!!!

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

White Supremacy!!!!!!

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"If I had a son"

 

[was thatguy]

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And that required a whole lot more planning than the losers who decide to buy an AR15 and 200 rounds of ammo. Hell you could walk into that gun shop on London Bridge Road, get you gun and be on the bridge shooting Labor Day weekend revelers on the channel inside 20 minutes. It takes more time to get a table at Chilis on a Friday night than to pull off a mass shooting in this country. Why bother with an elaborate plan? Hell, next Time Al Qaeda sneaks 20 murderers into the country imagine the chaos they'd cause by buying gun show rifles without background investigations and spread out around the country in teams of two to do school shootings. They might not achieve 9/11 numbers but y'all have managed to guarantee easy body counts on your children and grandchildren should they ever feel so inclined. It's time to stop being the easiest country in the world to commit mass murder. Step up with some solutions.

Maybe, but you can drop me in anytown USA with $500 or so and I’ll have a gun, no serial numbers, with ammo, in about the same amount of time.
Might cost a little more in CA though...

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Good, it should be that easy to initiate an investigation into anybody who is potentially violent. There are several names from forum members I look forward to politely sharing when those ATF agents knock on my door.

There you have it folks..

 

[regor]

"If I had a son"

he could get a gun!

 

[was thatguy]

There you have it folks..

Sounds like the Nazi cooperators in France....

 

[Grandpa mac]

One can rent a 26' U Haul truck at the drop of a hat. How many would that kill at desert Storm on the Blvd. @ 60 MPH???

Well that Trumpkins in Charlotte only managed to murder one by driving full speed into a crowd of protestors. Firearms are the single easiest way to kill a lot of people in America.

 

[Grandpa mac]

I'm not. I've seen the crowds buying guns at "Crossroads of the west" shows. Its actually frightening.

If I am ok filling out the 4475 (?) at Cabelas, why not have an FBI booth at the shows performing the same function?

I bet you wouldn't get a lot of argument from anyone in here against that. They just haven't seen these shows and what transpires.

But they ARE arguing against it, as is the NRA! Welcome to the “adult” table with me, Grads, and 530!

 

[Grandpa mac]

the Arizona process is fast, not intrusive and "supposedly" no records are kept....

As I 've stated numerous times, you can walk into Cabelas, buy a Bushmaster .50BMG, and a 5 x 25 x 56MM Nightforce scope, spend 5 minutes at the bank of terminals to fill the forms out. Get the scope mounted while you're eating a nasty dried out cheeseburger. Pick up 100 rounds of ammo, pay on your way out and you're in business.

A total of 1.5 hours. How is that a hassle?

That’s 1:15 longer than I’ve spent buying guns at the bait shop in Havasu, and the ambience at Uncle Kenny’s was better. At least before Kenny’s girlfriend shot him dead in his sleep.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

But they ARE arguing against it, as is the NRA! Welcome to the “adult” table with me, Grads, and 530!

Here's the difference. I've been there. You won't stop at background checks. You'll go after high capacity mags, "black guns" all manner of stuff. And when the "Assault weapons" are gone and some nut-jobs shoots a few people with a scoped hunting rifle, you'll advocate "who needs a sniper rifle to hunt" you will never stop.

Instant FBI background checks are easy and not intrusive.

I'm not one of you, you are advocating turning in other members here, you sir should be ashamed of that statement.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Maybe, but you can drop me in anytown USA with $500 or so and I’ll have a gun, no serial numbers, with ammo, in about the same amount of time.
Might cost a little more in CA though...

Yep, because you can find one in the Classifieds and buy it in the Walmart parking lot with no FFL to do a background. That is exactly what needs to change.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Here's the difference. I've been there. You won't stop at background checks. You'll go after high capacity mags, "black guns" all manner of stuff. And when the "Assault weapons" are gone and some nut-jobs shoots a few people with a scoped hunting rifle, you'll advocate "who needs a sniper rifle to hunt" you will never stop.

Instant FBI background checks are easy and not intrusive.

I'm not one of you, you are advocating turning in other members here, you sir are a traitor to America and all she stands for.

I’m advocating for whatever works to reduce children being murdered in their schools. My Remington 30-06 with its three round capacity does not seem to be the weapon of choice for school shooters. My AR15 is, and we should probably treat them like we treat silencers and short barrels and for the same reasons.

 

[was thatguy]

Yep, because you can find one in the Classifieds and buy it in the Walmart parking lot with no FFL to do a background. That is exactly what needs to change.

That’s one way, but I’ll buy mine in an ally.

That’s my point.
Laws only affect law abiding citizens.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Here's the difference. I've been there. You won't stop at background checks. You'll go after high capacity mags, "black guns" all manner of stuff. And when the "Assault weapons" are gone and some nut-jobs shoots a few people with a scoped hunting rifle, you'll advocate "who needs a sniper rifle to hunt" you will never stop.

Instant FBI background checks are easy and not intrusive.

I'm not one of you, you are advocating turning in other members here, you sir should be ashamed of that statement.

And as you no doubt noted, my comment was in response to a forum member who said he had reported me to the Feds, but I guess that didn’t bother you. Consistency matters if you want to stay at the adult table!

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

I’m advocating for whatever works to reduce children being murdered in their schools. My Remington 30-06 with its three round capacity does not seem to be the weapon of choice for school shooters. My AR15 is, and we should probably treat them like we treat silencers and short barrels and for the same reasons.

But taking mine and presumably, yours doesn't have any effect to the problem. Here's my rub, you want to conflate the killing of children with people owning AR's and AR "styled" rifles. How about mini 14's? how about autoloading shotguns? How about revolvers, they to are, by definition, semi-automatic.

If we don't agree with your measures, we want dead kids. That is your message.

 

[Grandpa mac]

That’s one way, but I’ll buy mine in an ally.

That’s my point.
Laws only affect law abiding citizens.

Horseshit. Once the easy straw purchaser and no FFL guns go away, you won’t have that easy access on the streets.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

And as you no doubt noted, my comment was in response to a forum member who said he had reported me to the Feds, but I guess that didn’t bother you. Consistency matters if you want to stay at the adult table!

I didn't see that my apologies. BUT, you made your threat plural.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Good, it should be that easy to initiate an investigation into anybody who is potentially violent. There are several names from forum members I look forward to politely sharing when those ATF agents knock on my door.

Here ya go

 

[Old Texan]

But they ARE arguing against it, as is the NRA! Welcome to the “adult” table with me, Grads, and 530!

The new Larry, Moe, and Curly Joe table you mean

 

[was thatguy]

Horseshit. Once the easy straw purchaser and no FFL guns go away, you won’t have that easy access on the streets.

Actually, “street” sales should boom.