Good Lord Boeing

[MPHSystems]

Boeing the new Ford?

Boeing doesn’t even have spark plugs.

 

[MPHSystems]

just saw on the news this morning a tire/wheel flew off a 777 at take off. not sure this can be blamed on Boeing but still the press they are getting.....

Serious question @DaveH are American runways better for landing without a tire? Why not jus land it in Japan without 1 wheel?

 

[MPHSystems]

That’s nothing. I have bought and sold BA a few times. I was expecting a much bigger dip than that.

I should have sold but I hold.

 

[Big B Hova]

Boeing doesn’t even have spark plugs.

Your right, instead of blowing spark plugs it blows doors off

 

[DaveH]

Serious question @DaveH are American runways better for landing without a tire? Why not jus land it in Japan without 1 wheel?

my guess would be they had no way of knowing if when the tire came off there was any sort of other collateral damage. so the safest option would likely to be to get the thing back on the ground as soon as possible.

 

[yz450mm]

Rolling the dice again, wish me luck!

 

[rmarion]

ℚ𝕦𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟 𝔼𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕪𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘

t.me

John Barnett, 62, was found dead in his truck in a hotel parking lot in South Carolina, cops said Monday - seven years after he retired following a 32-year career.
The ex-quality manager at Boeing's North Charleston plant died from a 'self-inflicted' wound, cops in Charleston said, adding that they were still investigating.

Barnett's death came during a break in depositions in a whistleblower retaliation suit, where he alleged under-pressure workers were deliberately fitting sub-standard parts to aircraft on the assembly line.

He said that in some cases, second-rate parts were literally removed from scrap bins, before being fitted to planes that were being built to prevent delays. A 2017 review by the FAA upheld some of his concerns, requiring Boeing to take action.

He had just given a deposition to Boeing's lawyers for the case this past week, his attorney Brian Knowles said.

an email, he called his client's death 'tragic'.

'Today is a tragic day,' Knowles wrote, revealing that Barnett 'was supposed to do day three of his deposition here in Charleston on his AIR21 case [on Saturday],' referring to a federal law that provides whistleblowers protection in the aviation industry.

'John had been back and forth for quite some time getting prepared,' he continued, providing a timeline of what transpired in the days before Barnett's death.

'The defense examined him for their allowed seven hours under the rules on Thursday.

'I cross examined him all day yesterday [Friday] and did not finish. We agreed to continue this morning at 10 am [co-counsel] Rob [Turkewitz] kept calling this morning and his phone would go to voicemail.

'We then asked the hotel to check on him,' the South Carolina jurist went on.

'They found him in his truck dead from an 'alleged' self-inflicted gunshot. We drove to the hotel and spoke with the police and the coroner.'

The Charleston County coroner, meanwhile, confirmed Monday the longtime Boeing staffer died Friday, while in town for interviews linked to the case.

Boeing also responded to the former worker's death in their own statement as news spread on Monday, saying it was 'saddened by Mr. Barnett's passing.'

The statement did not address any aspects of the case, but brass ultimately added: 'Our thoughts are with his family and friends.

 

[cofooter]

I should have sold but I hold.

My GF bought a bunch of Boeing years ago on the advice of an ex Boeing Engineer. It is half now what it was when she bought it. Fact is, Boeing is the only US company competing with Airbus. It will take some time to sort things out but they will survive and thrive no matter what IMO.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

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ℚ𝕦𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟 𝔼𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕪𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘

t.me

Did he also claim he had proof the earth was flat?

 

[regor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1767217791914914031

 

[regor]

F.A.A. Audit of Boeing’s 737 Max Production Found Dozens of Issues

The company failed 33 of 89 audits during an examination conducted by the Federal Aviation Administration after a panel blew off an Alaska Airlines jet in January.

www.nytimes.com

During Boeing's audit, the FAA conducted 89 product reviews, which evaluated the manufacturing process. Of the 89 audits, the planemaker passed 56 but did not meet specific standards in 33, resulting in 97 alleged noncompliance.

The presentation comes two months after a door plug ripped off a 737 Max 9 during an Alaska Airlines flight. Since then, Boeing has come under intense scrutiny over its manufacturing process. The latest findings should concern airlines operating fleets of these planes and passengers.

The audit then focused on Spirit AeroSystems, which makes fuselage or other parts for the 737 Max. According to the presentation, Spirit only passed six audits while failing seven.

FAA investigators noticed mechanics at Spirit using a hotel key card to measure door seals. Some mechanics also used Dawn soap as a "lubricant" during the door fitting process.

 

[Waterjunky]

Boeing has some issues , this isn't one of them.
That said, if the stock dips hard, I might buy.......

 

[regor]

Boeing has some issues , this isn't one of them.
That said, if the stock dips hard, I might buy.......

Good buy on the dip for sure, too big to fail.

 

[CLdrinker]

Good buy on the dip for sure, too big to fail.

I’ve milked it twice. Looks like it’s gonna be 3.

Also reports they will miss allot of deliveries this year.

 

[Sandlord]

Not going there at this point
I had a 1000 shares I bought at 40-60 bucks around 2010, and sold it for 260-300 in 2018.

the thing about Boeing Stock, You’re only 1 plane crash away from losing most of your money at any time.

 

[CLdrinker]

Not going there at this point
I had a 1000 shares I bought at 40-60 bucks around 2010, and sold it for 260-300 in 2018.

the thing about Boeing Stock, You’re only 1 plane crash away from losing most of your money at any time.

Buy after the crash. Sell over $200

 

[Waterjunky]

Buy after the crash. Sell over $200

This......

 

[Cole 392]

50 injured during “technical event” on 787

50 injured by 'strong movement' during 'technical event' on Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner: LATAM Airlines

Officials say at least 50 people have been injured by what they described as a "strong movement"

abc7chicago.com

 

[CLdrinker]

Not sure I understand people coming to the defense of this company. They knowingly engineered MCAS software into the 737max without telling pilots it was present. They told airlines that no additional training was required for the max, and they put profits over safety. Trust is earned not given. If you want to fly "Bean Counter" airlines, be my guest.

Who is defending them?

 

[Activated]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1767987636444987586

 

[Cobalt232]

Not sure I understand people coming to the defense of this company. They knowingly engineered MCAS software into the 737max without telling pilots it was present. They told airlines that no additional training was required for the max, and they put profits over safety. Trust is earned not given. If you want to fly "Bean Counter" airlines, be my guest.

While the crews did not know about MCAS, a runaway stabilizer is a memory item (no checklist needed). The Ethiopian crew got it correct by using the stab cutoff switches but then turned them back on.

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

While the crews did not know about MCAS, a runaway stabilizer is a memory item (no checklist needed). The Ethiopian crew got it correct by using the stab cutoff switches but then turned them back on.

Right! And anyone who has practiced it in the Sim knows it’s a very challenging maneuver and a unnatural feeling to release forward or back pressure to release the trim brake and manually trim.

 

[Cobalt232]

Right! And anyone who has practiced it in the Sim knows it’s a very challenging maneuver and a unnatural feeling to release forward or back pressure to release the trim break and manually trim.

It can also take a lot of strength if the horizontal stabilizer is loaded.

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

It can also take a lot of strength if the horizontal stabilizer is loaded.

Exactly

 

[lbhsbz]

50 injured during “technical event” on 787

50 injured by 'strong movement' during 'technical event' on Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner: LATAM Airlines

Officials say at least 50 people have been injured by what they described as a "strong movement"

abc7chicago.com

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A pilot used the term "gauges" to describe his instruments? Can't say I've heard one do that before.

 

[4Waters]

A pilot used the term "gauges" to describe his instruments? Can't say I've heard one do that before.

He's a car guy

 

[evantwheeler]

Boeing Whistleblower Found Dead: What to Know

John Barnett, who raised concerns about the safety of Boeing’s planes, was found dead during a break in depositions against the company.

time.com

 

[JDKRXW]

50 injured during “technical event” on 787

50 injured by 'strong movement' during 'technical event' on Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner: LATAM Airlines

Officials say at least 50 people have been injured by what they described as a "strong movement"

abc7chicago.com

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I find this ('technical even') extremely difficult to believe.

Im going to stick my neck out and say the crew did something like bumping the columns etc -- and there's a bunch of ass coveriing going on.

EDIT:
Looks like a big possibility of operator - (pilot or flight attendant) error.

There's even a name for this.

 

[TPC]

Disney, Boeing and a few other companies time to go Private. Buy up the stock.

 

[white tortilla]

 

[regor]

Boeing Whistleblower: "If Anything Happens to Me, It's Not Suicide"​

Someone “wanted to shut him up” claims family friend...

FRI MAR 15, AT 6:00 AM

 

[Activated]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768767927065715164

 

[napanutt]

I’ll stick to the airbus 321 from SFO to BOS thank you very much.

 

[lbhsbz]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768767927065715164

Its a 25yo plane.

Seems like this is more of a United problem than a Boeing problem.

 

[Activated]

Its a 25yo plane.

Seems like this is more of a United problem than a Boeing problem.

I agree. I don’t care either way, just saw the info and shared.

At a minimum, Boeing has a PR problem that they should figure out how to get in front of.

 

[rrrr]

Its a 25yo plane.

Seems like this is more of a United problem than a Boeing problem.

Judging from the leaks and dirt that's not a well maintained aircraft.

 

[shunter2005]

My question is this: Why have all the last 4 or 5 major issues happened to United Arilines only? Any parts been falling off of Southwest planes recently? It certainly wouldn't surprise me that Boeing would use some inferior parts at times, but shouldn't a good ground crewman or jet technician spot issues and fix them? Shouldn't some of these issues get caught during routine inspections by the airlines? I gotta call BS on some of this and put some of the blame of United and/or Alaska airlines.

 

[The Prisoner]

Boeing Whistleblower: "If Anything Happens to Me, It's Not Suicide"​

Someone “wanted to shut him up” claims family friend...

FRI MAR 15, AT 6:00 AM

Well you got to give Boeing props here….. their planes can’t fly but their bullets can.

 

[Activated]

Elon from the top rope.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1769197637440319718

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[lbhsbz]

My question is this: Why have all the last 4 or 5 major issues happened to United Arilines only? Any parts been falling off of Southwest planes recently? It certainly wouldn't surprise me that Boeing would use some inferior parts at times, but shouldn't a good ground crewman or jet technician spot issues and fix them? Shouldn't some of these issues get caught during routine inspections by the airlines? I gotta call BS on some of this and put some of the blame of United and/or Alaska airlines.

Swift drivers crash Freightliners....why isn't Freightliner in the news?

 

[shunter2005]

Swift drivers crash Freightliners....why isn't Freightliner in the news?

Because they have better lobbyists!!!

 

[shunter2005]

Its a 25yo plane.

Seems like this is more of a United problem than a Boeing problem.

I watched a special yesterday about an Aloha 737 (early model) that lost the roof several years ago. A passenger saw a crack in the fuselage right next to the door when she was boarding. She asked her friend if she should say something. She didn't, but not her fault. If a passenger could see a crack in the fuselage, don't you think a "trained" technician or inspector for the airline should have seen it and grounded the plane until it was repaired? FAA said the crack was a debonding of the glue that holds one panel to another. Glue? Really? It's a special glue that was used along with rivets and other stuff to hold the plane together. It was actually pretty interesting to listen to. The glue was affected by the humidity which caused it to debond. They have since reformulated that glue to make it impervious to humidity.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

I watched a special yesterday about an Aloha 737 (early model) that lost the roof several years ago. A passenger saw a crack in the fuselage right next to the door when she was boarding. She asked her friend if she should say something. She didn't, but not her fault. If a passenger could see a crack in the fuselage, don't you think a "trained" technician or inspector for the airline should have seen it and grounded the plane until it was repaired? FAA said the crack was a debonding of the glue that holds one panel to another. Glue? Really? It's a special glue that was used along with rivets and other stuff to hold the plane together. It was actually pretty interesting to listen to. The glue was affected by the humidity which caused it to debond. They have since reformulated that glue to make it impervious to humidity.

There was an Air Disasters episode on that. Need to remember the aircraft skin is a pressure vessel. They use epoxy on the overlapping seams to hold it together and then rivets as a final attachment.

That airframe was way over the manufacture limit for flight cycles, and the environment was a contributing factor.

 

[shunter2005]

There was an Air Disasters episode on that. Need to remember the aircraft skin is a pressure vessel. They use epoxy on the overlapping seams to hold it together and then rivets as a final attachment.

That airframe was way over the manufacture limit for flight cycles, and the environment was a contributing factor.

Might have been what it was. It had already started when I tuned in. I get that, but my point was why didn't a tech or inspector see what a passenger saw?

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Might have been what it was. It had already started when I tuned in. I get that, but my point was why didn't a tech or inspector see what a passenger saw?

Absolutely agree. The Air Disasters episode said what the passenger saw was right next to the aircraft door frame on the way in.

That tells me two pilots and the rest of the crew walked right past that to board the plane themselves and neither noticed nor said anything.

One thing I have noticed is the pre-flight check walk around the plane seems to have died. Used to be something every pilot did. Now they just get on and go to the cockpit and none's the wiser.

 

[rrrr]

Absolutely agree. The Air Disasters episode said what the passenger saw was right next to the aircraft door frame on the way in.

That tells me two pilots and the rest of the crew walked right past that to board the plane themselves and neither noticed nor said anything.

One thing I have noticed is the pre-flight check walk around the plane seems to have died. Used to be something every pilot did. Now they just get on and go to the cockpit and none's the wiser.

It's required. A flight crew member does the walk before they enter the cockpit and passengers board.

 

[Andy B.]

Absolutely agree. The Air Disasters episode said what the passenger saw was right next to the aircraft door frame on the way in.

That tells me two pilots and the rest of the crew walked right past that to board the plane themselves and neither noticed nor said anything.

One thing I have noticed is the pre-flight check walk around the plane seems to have died. Used to be something every pilot did. Now they just get on and go to the cockpit and none's the wiser.

I know a few pilots that fly for southwest and they all say I wouldn't get in the pilots seat without doing it. They are all captains.

 

[shunter2005]

Absolutely agree. The Air Disasters episode said what the passenger saw was right next to the aircraft door frame on the way in.

That tells me two pilots and the rest of the crew walked right past that to board the plane themselves and neither noticed nor said anything.

Wow!! I didn't even think about the flight crew entering the plane. They dang sure should have seen it.

 

[TonyFanelli]

Looks like a job for Flex Seal
Phil Swift for quality control!

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Looks like a job for Flex Seal
Phil Swift for quality control! View attachment 1348663 View attachment 1348664

That's what the airlines refer to as "deferred maintenance"!!