Ford Ecoboost Failure.

[DLow]

I was hoping they wouldnt turn into the new 6.0 fiasco

It very well may not be the 6.0 fiasco. Ford has just brought a lot of newer (production/OEM) technology into midsize trucks on a whole new engine platform. Time will tell, but I consider them a bit of a gamble.

Either way I hope OD1 gets his worked out under warranty. Ford needs to take care of their customers now more than ever.

 

[Bpracing1127]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens, not fair ok hook up a boat 6-10lbs and lets go race again ill still beat you and my motor is stock with bigger tires. These engines are amazing, 90% torque at 1800 rpm lets see your chevy do that you will be 4500 rpm up a hill ill be at 2500 maintaining speed in 4th gear at 65mph. Also I challenge all of the chevy guys talking shit have you been in one?most backseat room ever and very quiet. In od1 case this is very random and the first major failure I have heard of and yes I ask the techs all the time

 

[PVHCA]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens, not fair ok hook up a boat 6-10lbs and lets go race again ill still beat you and my motor is stock with bigger tires. These engines are amazing, 90% torque at 1800 rpm lets see your chevy do that you will be 4500 rpm up a hill ill be at 2500 maintaining speed in 4th gear at 65mph. Also I challenge all of the chevy guys talking shit have you been in one?most backseat room ever and very quiet. In od1 case this is very random and the first major failure I have heard of and yes I ask the techs all the time

Thanks for ur imput Ernie Earnhardt. I'd still never drive a shitbox FORD!!

 

[TPC]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens, not fair ok hook up a boat 6-10lbs and lets go race again ill still beat you and my motor is stock with bigger tires. These engines are amazing, 90% torque at 1800 rpm lets see your chevy do that you will be 4500 rpm up a hill ill be at 2500 maintaining speed in 4th gear at 65mph. Also I challenge all of the chevy guys talking shit have you been in one?most backseat room ever and very quiet. In od1 case this is very random and the first major failure I have heard of and yes I ask the techs all the time

Hope Od1 gets a solid from Ford.

All right, I have the Ecoboost 4, off subject, but damn it's fun to drive.
The wife is crazy about it.
Who the hell would think a little SUV would be a blast to zip around in?

We got the Ford extended warranty.
Dealer told us the Ford extended warranty is the only one they accept.

I think the advise to use the dealer for service is a good idea. Keep a good paper and digital trail.
Maybe investing in their service plan (at a discount) may be the way to roll too.

It runs nicer, smoother, peppier and quieter than the Lexus we tested and the Caddy.

 

[Runs2rch]

No matter what brand or motor there will always be a handful that fail. Numbers game. How many are built compared to how many fail.

 

[SFV2RVR]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens, not fair ok hook up a boat 6-10lbs and lets go race again ill still beat you and my motor is stock with bigger tires. These engines are amazing, 90% torque at 1800 rpm lets see your chevy do that you will be 4500 rpm up a hill ill be at 2500 maintaining speed in 4th gear at 65mph. Also I challenge all of the chevy guys talking shit have you been in one?most backseat room ever and very quiet. In od1 case this is very random and the first major failure I have heard of and yes I ask the techs all the time

For the record my Denali truck will smoke the tits off your twin turbo! Just sayin

 

[RCDave]

No matter what brand or motor there will always be a handful that fail. Numbers game. How many are built compared to how many fail.

And some engines are notorious for design/engineering problems. Vega, 6.0 Ford Diesels, Eco-Booms, etc

 

[DaveC]

Which truck has the quick release cab to help ease repairs?

 

[Runs2rch]

And some engines are notorious for design/engineering problems. Vega, 6.0 Ford Diesels, Eco-Booms, etc

True. The 6.0 can easily be updated to be reliable. I don't think there have been enough issues with the Eco Boost to accurately call it a pos yet.

You forgot pinto and chevette! Hahaha

 

[RCDave]

True. The 6.0 can easily be updated to be reliable. I don't think there have been enough issues with the Eco Boost to accurately call it a pos yet.

You forgot pinto and chevette! Hahaha

But why should it have to be updated to be reliable? Cause its a Ferd.



My parents bought a used Vega for my sister in high school. Many a long night was spent in the garage working on that pile of aluminum!

My parents ended up getting a Grand Am in the 90's. The 4 banger in that pile was also nothing but trouble. 3 blown head gaskets in the first few years of ownership.

 

[MSum661]

And some engines are notorious for design/engineering problems. Vega, 6.0 Ford Diesels, Eco-Booms, etc

Yes but....Vegas design and engineering problems could be fixed.
With a 12 bolt R.E. , a built small bock chevy and some S&W frame rails.

 

[DaveC]

Vega downsides could be solved with the Cosworth upgrade

 

[RCDave]

Yes but....Vegas design and engineering problems could be fixed.
With a 12 bolt R.E. , a built small bock chevy and some S&W frame rails.

Yup! Lots of V6's were wedged into that car too.

God I hated that car.

 

[RCDave]

All those Ferd V10 that shart spark plugs could be fixed to be reliable too!

 

[HitIt]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens

Nobody is arguing about the power of the motor (or did I miss something?). The question is how they hold up over time. Until that is proven, I certainly wouldn't want to own one out of warranty.

Also I challenge all of the chevy guys talking shit

Do you want to have a duel? Maybe we could meet at high noon in the town center.

Here is a challenge, or maybe more of a gentleman's bet. I bet that a shitty Chevy with a V-8 has depreciated less than your SuperFord at 100k miles.

this is very random and the first major failure I have heard of and yes I ask the techs all the time

This may be eye opening for you.

https://www.google.com/search?q=blown+ecoboost+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

[Runs2rch]

All those Ferd V10 that shart spark plugs could be fixed to be reliable too!

4.6 and 5.4's shot plugs because of poor installation. Mod motors like any motor need plugs changed cold, anti seize and tightened correctly.

I have had a few Lightning's with Kenne Bell's pushing 20-22 psi on pre 03 heads with original 3-4 threads. No issues. I have worked on a ton of these though doing plug changes and the plugs were loose. Loose plugs equal spitting.

 

[Chili Palmer]

Vega downsides could be solved with the Cosworth upgrade

No, I had a Cosworth - it was a piece of shit too. It was a little bit faster than a run of the mill Vega, but still a piece of shit.

The best upgrade I did was to replace it with an El Camino.

 

[hallett21]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens, not fair ok hook up a boat 6-10lbs and lets go race again ill still beat you and my motor is stock with bigger tires. These engines are amazing, 90% torque at 1800 rpm lets see your chevy do that you will be 4500 rpm up a hill ill be at 2500 maintaining speed in 4th gear at 65mph. Also I challenge all of the chevy guys talking shit have you been in one?most backseat room ever and very quiet. In od1 case this is very random and the first major failure I have heard of and yes I ask the techs all the time

X2

Bummed for OD1 but the ecoboost in a f150 is a badass motor

 

[RCDave]

4.6 and 5.4's shot plugs because of poor installation. Mod motors like any motor need plugs changed cold, anti seize and tightened correctly.

I have had a few Lightning's with Kenne Bell's pushing 20-22 psi on pre 03 heads with original 3-4 threads. No issues. I have worked on a ton of these though doing plug changes and the plugs were loose. Loose plugs equal spitting.

My understanding on why they shart plugs was due to not enough spark plug threads in the head design. But that can be fixed to be reliable too!

 

[Runs2rch]

My understanding on why they shart plugs was due to not enough spark plug threads in the head design. But that can be fixed to be reliable too!

As I stated install is key. Working for Ford dealers I knew quite a few techs that would do a 6 plug swap. I am a Ford and Chevy owner. You can rip on design flaws with both.

 

[DaveC]

LOL

I am actually not old enough to remember those cars.

My neighbor had one when I was a kid. Come to think of it the car was broken because he was a shade tree mechanic and could fix anything.

No, I had a Cosworth - it was a piece of shit too. It was a little bit faster than a run of the mill Vega, but still a piece of shit.

The best upgrade I did was to replace it with an El Camino.

 

[pronstar]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens, not fair ok hook up a boat 6-10lbs and lets go race again ill still beat you and my motor is stock with bigger tires. These engines are amazing, 90% torque at 1800 rpm lets see your chevy do that you will be 4500 rpm up a hill ill be at 2500 maintaining speed in 4th gear at 65mph.

I'm not a hater by any means, and certainly not trying to call you out on anything.

But this argument is valid because you're comparing a turbocharged engine to a non-turbocharged engine.

It has little to do with whether there's a Ford or Chevy badge on the valve covers.

 

[Wmc]

My neighborhood kid thought his ecoboost was the shit too. He would take it to the track on Thursday's. One day he chased me down in my Dirty max and got smoked with ladders and all..... Ford's sux.

 

[spectras only]

My neighborhood kid thought his ecoboost was the shit too. He would take it to the track on Thursday's. One day he chased me down in my Dirty max and got smoked with ladders and all..... Ford's sux.

My bone stock Ecoboost runs 14.7 1/4 on regular tires. Could you elaborate what your D-max runs 'IN STOCK FORM', no Bullydog chips and tunes

 

[Outdrive1]

So Ford wanted to confirm with the dealer that the program was stock and that there were no modifications. They've now said they are going to assist. Not sure to what capacity yet. That's good news for me though.

 

[Wmc]

My bone stock Ecoboost runs 14.7 1/4 on regular tires. Could you elaborate what your D-max runs 'IN STOCK FORM', no Bullydog chips and tunes

Mine 2006 lbz superchip intake stock exhaust. The ecoboost was chip, intake and exhaust

 

[TPC]

So Ford wanted to confirm with the dealer that the program was stock and that there were no modifications. They've now says they are going to assist. Not sure to what capacity yet. That's good news for me though.

Good news.

 

[Stainless]

Eco-Booms, etc

RCD, you created a new monicker.
[emoji2]

 

[Big B Hova]

RCD, you created a new monicker.
[emoji2]

Eco-BOOM! LOL

 

[Cray Paper]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens, not fair ok hook up a boat 6-10lbs and lets go race again ill still beat you and my motor is stock with bigger tires. These engines are amazing, 90% torque at 1800 rpm lets see your chevy do that you will be 4500 rpm up a hill ill be at 2500 maintaining speed in 4th gear at 65mph. Also I challenge all of the chevy guys talking shit have you been in one?most backseat room ever and very quiet. In od1 case this is very random and the first major failure I have heard of and yes I ask the techs all the time

Hook up a 9K trailer to both and run them for 100k. Bet the bigger cubed NA motor lasts longer and the small displacement high tech motor doesn't the majority of the time. Lol at using acceleration as the example of being superior to a diesel or NA V8 gas engine.

Ever wonder why semi's, dirt moving equipment, trains, ships, buses etc. don't have tiny turbocharged gas engines? Guess Ford thinks they are more capable of producing something durable and reliable than any other manufacture in the world that produces stuff that is exposed to extreme use. Either that or they think there customer base is either that loyal, or the majority wont use it to the limits that it has been advertised to. Kinda like the Raptor. How well does the frame hold up on Raptors when jumped?

 

[Chili Palmer]

Ever wonder why semi's, dirt moving equipment, trains, ships, buses etc. don't have tiny turbocharged gas engines? Guess Ford thinks they are more capable of producing something durable and reliable than any other manufacture in the world that produces stuff that is exposed to extreme use. Either that or they think there customer base is either that loyal, or the majority wont use it to the limits that it has been advertised to. Kinda like the Raptor. How well does the frame hold up on Raptors when jumped?

Ford has never said that these engines are more durable, they are just looking for another way to put the same power output into a smaller package. As long as the engines go past 100,000 miles that puts them past the warranty threshold, then they are free and clear.

You are right, a smaller harder working engine that is always at it's peak output will not last as long as a larger more powerful engine that is designed to be a workhorse. But when the engine is not being worked the smaller engine will be the more efficient one - which is usually 90% of the time.

 

[spectras only]

IrocDave, show me a picture of any 1/2 ton truck, either from Chevy or Dodge, jumping the same height as that Raptor did when it bent its frame. You need the righthly set up truck[ a Ford ] to do it.
My son's POS Ford could do it all day long.
Boy oh boy, lot of Ford haters are here.

IroDave's quote; "a smaller harder working engine that is always at it's peak output"

Ps; the Ecoboost's peak power [ torque ] is at a low 2700 rpm vs 4-5000 for most V-8's.

 

[77charger]

I have a ecoboost, and to all the haters lets go race your 5.3 or 6 slow and see what happens, not fair ok hook up a boat 6-10lbs and lets go race again ill still beat you and my motor is stock with bigger tires. These engines are amazing, 90% torque at 1800 rpm lets see your chevy do that you will be 4500 rpm up a hill ill be at 2500 maintaining speed in 4th gear at 65mph. Also I challenge all of the chevy guys talking shit have you been in one?most backseat room ever and very quiet. In od1 case this is very random and the first major failure I have heard of and yes I ask the techs all the time

Ok just get back to me when your furd has 300k on the original engine then we can race.

 

[arch stanton]

We have a company owned 2013 F150 v8 with about 40K that the drive shaft fell out of at about 10 MPH, it is possible that it had been abused as it is shared but it's been mostly been driven by the owners and Forman as a back up vehicle. I never felt any vibration what is back story for the other failure.
Ford covered the repair under warranty but it took a week to get the shaft to Barstow.

 

[Big B Hova]

Ecoboost is meant for gas mileage not heavy duty towing.

 

[AzGeo]

the one thing I would need to know is "has this motor been detonating" ? Since the motor is out, I would inspect a few of the 'rod bearing shells' . The top ones will have small 'star burst' shaped marks on them if it has been detonating, and this problem will also damage piston shirts .

If the engine has a 'true 10 to 1 + static compression', and they are adding 'boost heat' (even intercooled boost) that is a tremendous amount of heat for the engine to ex-spell under loads . Even with 'electronic direct injection' I find it difficult to see how they control detonation, and still pass 'smog tests' .


Often a 'tapping noise' around a turbocharged engine, indicates an 'exhaust leak' .

"A smaller engine is NOT more efficient, the displacement has nothing to do with efficiency" . "An equal amount of work being done using 'less air and fuel' to do that work, would be efficiency" . "Torque moves the load, horsepower is how fast (at what RPM) the work can be done" . "A '5.3' is not a 50 year old small block, a 5.0 or a 5.7 would be .

Sad for your problems, but happy to LEARN about these problems BEFORE I spend my money . Good luck !

 

[OCMerrill]

"A '5.3' is not a 50 year old small block, a 5.0 or a 5.7 would be .

They have a 5.7 LS so that makes it a small block. rolleyes

 

[Runs2rch]

They have a 5.7 LS so that makes it a small block. rolleyes

Hahaha Old ass 5.3's!!!

 

[hallett21]

Ecoboost is meant for gas mileage not heavy duty towing.

Not really. It's marketed as a Eco motor but it's claim to fame is it's torque and HP numbers

 

[Runs2rch]

Not really. It's marketed as a Eco motor but it's claim to fame is it's torque and HP numbers

True. Anyone that is frequently hauling 10-12k, which is what an Eco is rated for properly equipped should have a 3/4 ton rig. I'm pretty sure Ford figures most people are pulling heavy 10-20% of the time max.

 

[hallett21]

True. Anyone that is frequently hauling 10-12k, which is what an Eco is rated for properly equipped should have a 3/4 ton rig. I'm pretty sure Ford figures most people are pulling heavy 10-20% of the time max.

Agreed if you are pulling at your truck's max capacity 40% or more of the time I'd say you need to step up in tonnage.

 

[Racey]

I went back and looked at it. Asked the mechanic how many of these he's seen and of course it's the first one.


Interesting that they pull the cab to take the motor out. My truck is literally a pile of parts.

I have a buddy that works on them, and he says Ford really has their shit together with working on the trucks, it's like 8 bolts and a few harness plugs and the cab is loose and ready to lift. Makes it super easy to work on, he hates doing Chevrolets now.

 

[Runs2rch]

I have a buddy that works on them, and he says Ford really has their shit together with working on the trucks, it's like 8 bolts and a few harness plugs and the cab is loose and ready to lift. Makes it super easy to work on, he hates doing Chevrolets now.

The design is pretty sweet. I posted earlier that I am a Ford and Chevy owner. The problem I have with Chevy is they do not innovate. Same designs tweaked. Not a bad thing completely, but push the envelope of development a little. The 5.3 should be making 400-420hp. The 6.2 should be making 460-500hp.

 

[FreeBird236]

I have a buddy that works on them, and he says Ford really has their shit together with working on the trucks, it's like 8 bolts and a few harness plugs and the cab is loose and ready to lift. Makes it super easy to work on, he hates doing Chevrolets now.

You know, that's really pretty funny when you think about it.

 

[milkmoney]

You know, that's really pretty funny when you think about it.

I thought the same thing. Not many bolts [emoji2]

 

[Runs2rch]

You know, that's really pretty funny when you think about it.

When you think about it. For sure. It's like hey guys our shit breaks all the time. Sooooo why don't we make it way easier to work on?!

 

[FreeBird236]

I thought the same thing. Not many bolts [emoji2]

I was kinda thinking about all the pics you see of the diesels with the cabs sitting on the ground.

 

[FreeBird236]

When you think about it. For sure. It's like hey guys our shit breaks all the time. Sooooo why don't we make it way easier to work on?!

Exactly.

 

[530RL]

So Ford wanted to confirm with the dealer that the program was stock and that there were no modifications. They've now said they are going to assist. Not sure to what capacity yet. That's good news for me though.

Good news and I am not surprised. Most manufacturers support is pretty good now days as long as no mods to engines, lift kits etc.

GM keeps putting TC modules in my Duramx/Allison and it has 80,000 miles on it even though these modules are not covered under the 100k drivetrain warranty.

It will be interesting on how much they want from you versus how much they cover. Hopefully it will be very little from you. :thumbup:

With respect to the EcoBoom versus non-turbocharged motors, the data is pretty convincing. Most half ton trucks are just passenger cars now days. The vast majority of F150 trucks never see a trailer on them in their life and most of them that do, haul very light and small stuff.

Ford and all manufacturers design to the majority of use, not the 3rd deviation of use. In the cases like OD where there is a catastrophic failure, my experience is that they will typically step up assuming no signs of "abuse" or "modification" and maintenance was done on time.

 

[spectras only]

OK, lets beat a dead Ford, I meant horse more. Anyone here have any real data on how many 3.5 Eco engines failed so far?
I guess ,no one. OD1 truck is the first I've heard of. Guess who else like to spread rumours? Look here, Tundra headquarters:rolleyes http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/ecoboost-reliability-survey/
I could go on how many ZO6 failures happened, according to chevy blogging sites.

I tow a TT that's 9600# lodaed and a boat that's 8300#. No one at Ford claimed the 150 for heavy haul, get a 1 T for that.

Shit happens to any make since some parts are contracted out. My 66 Vette was made entirely in the US:thumbup:. My shitty 80 Vette wasn't.:thumbsdown Wonder who made the harmonic balancer for the 80's Vettes? Mine separated at
the insulator and fell apart, letting me stranded.