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OldSchoolBoats

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Buyers are losing their minds. They literally think rates are going to bottom right here. Activity is crazy! I personally think we will continue to trend down. Under 4% by Q2 2025 if Trump is elected. Prices jump but Havasu won't compare to established suburbs with available jobs. Havasu still has to adjust with the STR owners that bought at the peak and aren't booking enough to make their nut.
 

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Where are mortgage rates now, and what does the crystal ball think they will be in a month or so?

Not that much lower in a month. The only way they will go back to 3% and lower is when we have a 2008 event again which will
happen at some point but not yet.

Waiting for things out of your control to go your way is one of the hardest things to do. Don’t wait too long. If you can swing it, go for it.
 

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Just stumbled across this while browsing Zillow around my neighborhood, ouch…

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/...ssage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare
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Good so far, we’ve been busy. Moved in Sunday, started my job Monday and my oldest started Kindergarten Wednesday. So far the whole family is really enjoying it, I’m happy.

Awesome. You’re gonna do great. Best of luck bud.
 

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Wow, really shooting for the moon with that $780,000 listing price in June.

With that said, that there is what I would call a motivated seller.
They were probably hoping for some appreciation on the 718k purchase price.

Unfortunately not every market is high end SoCal.
 

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Just reading that Japan's market was diving this afternoon, so they halted trading. It being Monday there, will that echo in Europe and here tomorrow? Will it be worse, or better if things are seen ahead of time, and used to an advantage?
 

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Wife and co workers used to watch the asian market to time their moves. Had such good success that the corp shut them down since they only wanted to let experienced traders like Pelosi to benefit.
 

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Wife and co workers used to watch the asian market to time their moves. Had such good success that the corp shut them down since they only wanted to let experienced traders like Pelosi to benefit.
Honestly, I'd never given much thought to it, the dateline and such. It makes perfect sense though, you'd have a glimpse of what's coming.
 

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I got out Friday afternoon late, so I took a hit. I have tried to time the market twice and was succsesful. Told myself to not try that again, but couldn't help myself. Hope I didn't fuck up. If you believe the futures it looks like I didn't.
 

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Just remember that if you have an outside water intrusion, you won't be covered. Even if not in a flood zone, if it rains enough and it does flood, you won't be covered. The flood insurance isn't much more per year. I would revisit that.

Kind of funny. I had requested a quote from Farm Bureau for flood insurance. Just got the quote this morning. $690 yr. It is kind of stange to me. $1250/1000 deductable for $690 or I could do 10k/10k decuctable for $637.

I am going with the $690 lol. Coverage doesn't start for 30 days, which is weird because they said If I had a mortgage and they required it, then it would start immediatly.

We didn't even get close to flooding here during this storm, but for 690 it is too cheap not to have it.
 

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Buyers are losing their minds. They literally think rates are going to bottom right here. Activity is crazy! I personally think we will continue to trend down. Under 4% by Q2 2025 if Trump is elected. Prices jump but Havasu won't compare to established suburbs with available jobs. Havasu still has to adjust with the STR owners that bought at the peak and aren't booking enough to make their nut.
Rates going down won't save the market. Stock market falls 30% on avarage ONCE they start to cut. They started cuttng rates in in 2007, housing had not even begun faling yet. They cut because bad thigs are happening..
 

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I got out Friday afternoon late, so I took a hit. I have tried to time the market twice and was succsesful. Told myself to not try that again, but couldn't help myself. Hope I didn't fuck up. If you believe the futures it looks like I didn't.
Did you jump back in before the bump up?
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Did you jump back in before the bump up? View attachment 1417644

No I missed out on that. Still on the sidelines. Probably an error on my part, but we will see.

I am conflicted as we are fortunate to have the nest egg where it needs to be for the rest of our lives. What you never know is the future of our country and it its debt. Part of me wants to just leave it in bonds and it's lower returns. Then when I get 62 and start taking social security is to put that money into a roth every month as a hedge against future taxes. That would give me 10 yrs of investing tax free, before I have to take required distributions from retirement accounts. The good news is that we can live off of pensions, which we don't use all of each month.
 

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New Real estate rules kicked in yesterday. Went to two open houses today. One a block from my house was crazy busy. 1 two blocks over was dead. One was 745k and a gutter. One was 1.2 and a shifty flip job that has been reduced already.
 

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Yeah but Trump calls people names!
If this is true the media and government will just lie some more and the sheep will believe, fucking idiot's!!!
Another new COVID Vax coming make sure all you sheep get it!
 

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New Real estate rules kicked in yesterday. Went to two open houses today. One a block from my house was crazy busy. 1 two blocks over was dead. One was 745k and a gutter. One was 1.2 and a shifty flip job that has been reduced already.
But literally nothing changes. A couple extra forms. Sellers are still paying commissions.
 

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But literally nothing changes. A couple extra forms. Sellers are still paying commissions.
Basically what one told me yesterday. They can negotiate the commission like it's always been. Or the buyer has to pay there realtor if seller refuses.

She did say there are new disclosures for flips. Said to ask my realtor. I did and she will forward me the info.

I saw the open house signs and my Realtor asked me to go by and get a rough number on upgrade and repair costs. She already walked it with her client. The realtor hosting was talking to me and needs a ADU built around the corner. So I was there longer than planned. Handed out a few cards. If u had the cash I would of made a offer myself.
 

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Apparently, the madness in Havasu hasn’t stopped yet either. I drive past this home quite often and they’ve been working on it for months. As of yet, there is no sparkling pool.🤣 I don’t know maybe I’m being too critical.

 

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Spike the market and take away the “economy” argument. Take the focus on the fake jobs numbers.

Yea Bloomberg is always willing to do their job.

Look at this chart, especially through Obama's 2nd and Trump's 1st term. Damn near identical moves from 2012 through 2019. 😆

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It will need an implosion to get back to pre-pandemic pricing, 35% drop needed at this point. It's possible, but that's some serious cushion for owners.
 

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This property had an open house this past weekend, took a client of mine that was interested. There was a 20 minute line to get in. So far they have received multiple offers and are all over asking.
 

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This property had an open house this past weekend, took a client of mine that was interested. There was a 20 minute line to get in. So far they have received multiple offers and are all over asking.
Nice house inside and out. Investors or people looking for a primary residence?
 

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Yea Bloomberg is always willing to do their job.

Look at this chart, especially through Obama's 2nd and Trump's 1st term. Damn near identical moves from 2012 through 2019. 😆

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It will need an implosion to get back to pre-pandemic pricing, 35% drop needed at this point. It's possible, but that's some serious cushion for owners.
It’s gonna a pretty big spike when the rates drop. Not sure if it’s adding fuel or oxygen to the fire but it’s gonna be brutal. ADU’s are providing some relief in So Cal but not a long term fix. They’re mostly additional rentals and not first homes. The quick fix is to disincentivize rentals (short/long term). Make it unprofitable and a ton of supply comes back on the market. Tough to get either side to rally on that agenda.
 

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It’s gonna a pretty big spike when the rates drop. Not sure if it’s adding fuel or oxygen to the fire but it’s gonna be brutal. ADU’s are providing some relief in So Cal but not a long term fix. They’re mostly additional rentals and not first homes. The quick fix is to disincentivize rentals (short/long term). Make it unprofitable and a ton of supply comes back on the market. Tough to get either side to rally on that agenda.
Just need to make sure more people lose their jobs before the rates go down.
 

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Nice house inside and out. Investors or people looking for a primary residence?
Downsizers, currently in a 7,000 sq ft home 2 story looking for a single story in that area
 
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This property had an open house this past weekend, took a client of mine that was interested. There was a 20 minute line to get in. So far they have received multiple offers and are all over asking.
Reminds me of the old owners of 2a zones house
 
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