For the Real Estate Drop in sales and price Naysayers HOLD ONTO YOUR HATS

[brgrcru]

You have to be smart enough to read the report in the context it was written, and understand the parameters in which it was written.

You need to be educated in economics, Otherwise you’re living in La la land.

Ripe, coming from all the stupid shit you have posted !

 

[jet496]

There simply is no available labor to expand production. And the labor pool will struggle to grow as America ages.

Throw in possible increases on building materials from inflation and additional tariffs and either prices must increase, builders margins drop, or more likely supply constricts even more.

You are correct. We were just talking about this today how the USA, which used to be the production capital of the world, has turned into the worst labor force in the world. We're shorthanded because 75% of the workforce are lazy and/or incompetent. They just do enough to get by & never trying to excel. This is a fact. If the human race depended on Americans to survive, humans would go extinct. Just sayin'

 

[4Waters]

You are correct. We were just talking about this today how the USA, which used to be the production capital of the world, has turned into the worst labor force in the world. We're shorthanded because 75% of the workforce are lazy and/or incompetent. They just do enough to get by & never trying to excel. This is a fact. If the human race depended on Americans to survive, humans would go extinct. Just sayin'

It's because our politicians allow them to stay home a collect a welfare check

 

[HotRod82]

It's because our politicians allow them to stay home a collect a welfare check

Bingo!
Covid showed us how little it takes for the average lazy slob to stay home and just get fatter. Give the average american 500 bucks a week and they will never work again! Pathetic.

 

[Orange Juice]

Bingo!
Covid showed us how little it takes for the average lazy slob to stay home and just get fatter. Give the average american 500 bucks a week and they will never work again! Pathetic.

Inheritance.
Some of these lazy slobs will never need to work, if their parents set them up with a family trust. They spend 6-8 hours conditioning their body. Spend weekends at the cabin, or yachting.
Others will get the family farm, and struggle for the rest of their lives.

Then the family member that just never finds their direction. 150 years ago, they would one day wander too far into the woods and be eaten by a grizzly bear, or a mountain lion. That just doesn't happen too often anymore. ()

We are a moment in time. “The meek shall inherit the earth”.

 

[530RL]

There would be plenty of labor if we cut off welfare.

Excellent idea. I’m for that and raising the age for social security to help the situation.

Unfortunately a majority of voters do not want that.

Any other ideas?

 

[angiebaby]

Excellent idea. I’m for that and raising the age for social security to help the situation.

Unfortunately a majority of voters do not want that.

Any other ideas?

I’d rather higher SS taxes than work longer. Who is going to hire people for decent pay over 65? It’s already a struggle to find a job at 53.

 

[CarolynandBob]

Excellent idea. I’m for that and raising the age for social security to help the situation.

Unfortunately a majority of voters do not want that.

Any other ideas?

How about stop raiding social security funds? Why raise the the age on something that was promised from my first paycheck? They confiscated money every year and now you want to move the goal post? It was always a shitty return on the money they took and now you want to change it? Fuck you

 

[Andy B.]

How about stop raiding social security funds? Why raise the the age on something that was promised from my first paycheck? They confiscated money every year and now you want to move the goal post? It was always a shitty return on the money they took and now you want to change it? Fuck you

Exactly!!!

 

[Looking Glass]

I’d rather higher SS taxes than work longer. Who is going to hire people for decent pay over 65? It’s already a struggle to find a job at 53.

The Insulting Reality of this is the older Generation are the ones who will Show Up and Work .

 

[angiebaby]

The Insulting Reality of this is the older Generation are the ones who will Show Up and Work .

This is true. I'd hire a Gen Xer any day over the younger crowd. Especially the zoomers.

 

[Cdog]

I’d rather higher SS taxes than work longer. Who is going to hire people for decent pay over 65? It’s already a struggle to find a job at 53.

Hell no! It’s already high enough for what you get.

The bleed off before they get to the higher age is the better answer. They had plenty of cash for tattoos, cigarettes & fast food. If they make it to 67, sure why not.

 

[Cdog]

The 154 page real estate thread just turned into a social insecurity thread. Old people yelling at clouds!

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Regarding Social Security, I hope you paid attention in your mid-late 80s economics class. It should be no surprise to anyone that SS is going to fail. As a Gen Xer, my economics teacher in high school explained very well that SS would go BK the year I needed to start collecting. I've never considered it part of my retirement plans. I've always just seen it as a shitty tax I had to pay and planned accordingly when I was self-employed to mitigate that extra 7.5% hit.

 

[bonesfab]

Regarding Social Security, I hope you paid attention in your mid-late 80s economics class. It should be no surprise to anyone that SS is going to fail. As a Gen Xer, my economics teacher in high school explained very well that SS would go BK the year I needed to start collecting. I've never considered it part of my retirement plans. I've always just seen it as a shitty tax I had to pay and planned accordingly when I was self-employed to mitigate that extra 7.5% hit.

Just like all these guberment pensions. One day there are going to be a whole lot of pissed off people when their retirement checks stop clearing or showing up.

 

[Cdog]

Just like all these guberment pensions. One day there are going to be a whole lot of pissed off people when their retirement checks stop clearing or showing up.

I just hope there are some boomers around still collecting that get cut off and have to pay the consequences of who and what they voted for.

Full send. Gen Xers were fucked from the get go but have been forced to pay for this scam.

 

[Cdog]

I've got advice for all of them that are force to go back to work.


Do what you love and you wont work a day in your life.


LMFAO! Reap what you sow.

 

[530RL]

How about stop raiding social security funds? Why raise the the age on something that was promised from my first paycheck? They confiscated money every year and now you want to move the goal post? It was always a shitty return on the money they took and now you want to change it? Fuck you

The mathematical problem is the plan was set up with an assumption that the number of years drawing out of it was much less than is actually happening.

The result is that some of the benefit is the money that was confiscated and some of the benefit is welfare, if welfare is defined as a benefit in excess of the contributions plus an assumed and fr return.

If we want to cut welfare, as I am certainly a fan of, we have to be honest about the simple mathematical fact that the benefit is now exceeding the contributions due to the expansion in the number of years in average receiving the benefit. Due to life expectancy changes and modern medicine we are receiving a benefit far in excess of what promised “from your first paycheck”. And sooner or later the government runs out of other people’s money.

I’d rather higher SS taxes than work longer. Who is going to hire people for decent pay over 65? It’s already a struggle to find a job at 53.

I’d rather keep that money and save and invest it myself.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I just hope there are some boomers around still collecting that get cut off and have to pay the consequences of who and what they voted for.

Full send. Gen Xers were fucked from the get go but have been forced to pay for this scam.

I've got advice for all of them that are force to go back to work.


Do what you love and you wont work a day in your life.


LMFAO! Reap what you sow.

We seem to be aligned in our disdain for Boomers. I have no sympathy for any Boomer who is not sitting on a pile of money. They had the best opportunity for wealth building our country has ever seen, and they did it to the detriment of every following generation. Fucking hippies sold us all out.

 

[Looking Glass]

This is true. I'd hire a Gen Xer any day over the younger crowd. Especially the zoomers.

Willing to work Weekends, Holidays, Evenings, and then Without Complaining!!

I've got advice for all of them that are force to go back to work.


Do what you love and you wont work a day in your life.


LMFAO! Reap what you sow.

OR!!

The Ones Laughing and Laying around in Retirement then Dying @ 61

 

[Orange Juice]

Pensions are retirement plans.
401k’s are retirement plans.
Buying gold is a retirement plan.

Social Security was never supposed to be a retirement plan. It’s suppose to take some of the burden off society, as the population ages.

Medicare is our problem. If I had my way, we’d all have free healthcare until we reach the age of 25 y/o, after that, it comes out of our own pocket.

 

[Cdog]

The mathematical problem is the plan was set up with an assumption that the number of years drawing out of it was much less than is actually happening.

The result is that some of the benefit is the money that was confiscated and some of the benefit is welfare, if welfare is defined as a benefit in excess of the contributions plus an assumed and fr return.

If we want to cut welfare, as I am certainly a fan of, we have to be honest about the simple mathematical fact that the benefit is now exceeding the contributions due to the expansion in the number of years in average receiving the benefit. Due to life expectancy changes and modern medicine we are receiving a benefit far in excess of what promised “from your first paycheck”. And sooner or later the government runs out of other people’s money.


I’d rather keep that money and save and invest it myself.

Did the plan assume 30-60 million illegals that contribute nothing or next to nothing siphoning off from the fund?

 

[Cdog]

We seem to be aligned in our disdain for Boomers. I have no sympathy for any Boomer who is not sitting on a pile of money. They had the best opportunity for wealth building our country has ever seen, and they did it to the detriment of every following generation. Fucking hippies sold us all out.

I wish the decent ones no ill will. But I see and hear so much BS from this group is sickening.

 

[regor]

The mathematical problem is the plan was set up with an assumption that the number of years drawing out of it was much less than is actually happening.

The result is that some of the benefit is the money that was confiscated and some of the benefit is welfare, if welfare is defined as a benefit in excess of the contributions plus an assumed and fr return.

If we want to cut welfare, as I am certainly a fan of, we have to be honest about the simple mathematical fact that the benefit is now exceeding the contributions due to the expansion in the number of years in average receiving the benefit. Due to life expectancy changes and modern medicine we are receiving a benefit far in excess of what promised “from your first paycheck”. And sooner or later the government runs out of other people’s money.

Sure thing, right after you get the money back from every nation that we paid foreign aid to and every NATO country that we've been flipping the bill for over the last 50 years. You'll have to hit up the past Congressmen for the money that was laundered back to them also through the foreign aid scam.

You big government scumbags ALWAYS want to bend over the middle class and act as if the Social Security problem is something they need to resolve.

Should we talk about inflation next and how that's their fault too? Or should we talk about the scum money changers at the FED and how THEY have destroyed the buying power of the dollar and further put the boot on the middle classes' neck?

 

[Cdog]

What really needs to be said is that government hates you. Government doesn't give a fuck about it’s citizens. You're on your own unless you're a special interest group they can leverage. They = both Democrats & Republicans. Two sides of the same piece of shit.

Plan accordingly

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I wish the decent ones no ill will. But I see and hear so much BS from this group is sickening.

Last winter, I was standing in the street with a bunch of retired Boomers at Islander, listening to them brag about how smart they invested in their lives. To my surprise, one of them called the others out on the bullish!t. It was the first time I heard honest talk from Boomers regarding wealth building.

He said something like this.
You all were not that smart; if you did not make a pile of money on real estate and in the stock market, you were an idiot. We lived in a time in which it was easy to make money. We were blessed to be born at the right time. The other generations have not seen the opportunity we had. He laughed in one guy's face and said You bought your house in the 70s for $25K and sold it for over $1M. You did not do that.

He lives pretty simply, but he has made a lot of money. I've become friends with him, and he openly admits he was lucky. He is perceived as a grumpy old bastard, but I'm blessed to call him a friend.

<------------Sportin' Wood = Bitter Feral GenX Punk Rock Boomer Hater.

 

[JDKRXW]

Due to life expectancy changes and modern medicine we are receiving a benefit far in excess of what promised “from your first paycheck”. And sooner or later the government runs out of other people’s money.

Actually, average life expectancy has dropped in the US recently.
I expect this social security discussion is exactly why the government has said very little and they're probably taking it as great news.

 

[Cdog]

Actually, average life expectancy has dropped in the US recently.
I expect this social security discussion is exactly why the government has said very little and they're probably taking it as great news.

It’s peaking for the boomers declining for all younger generations

 

[stillhustlin]

17 S Border Way, Mohave Valley, AZ 86440 | MLS #011456 | Zillow

This is a Vacant Land. It is located at 17 S Border Way, Mohave Valley, AZ.

www.zillow.com

This is an interesting subdivision that just popped up. Ran the math on it based off what the seller originally paid for the land it seemed like it had 75-100% profit margin in it if he gets asking price. This deal has been completed in the last couple of years (2 or so). Seeing deals like this really makes it tempting for me to quit my job and go start chasing dirt.

 

[530RL]

Actually, average life expectancy has dropped in the US recently.
I expect this social security discussion is exactly why the government has said very little and they're probably taking it as great news.

In 1935 when social security established the retirement age of 65, life expectancy for a person born in 1935 was 62. 64 for women, 60 for men.

Social security assumed the majority of people would never collect a penny even though they would pay in plenty.

 

[shintoooo]

Blackrock thinks that real estate prices will start going up again

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/articles/2024/04/08/blackstone-10-billion-deal-latest-bet-property-near-lows

 

[Gonefishin5555]

I "opted out" of social security 20 years ago when I formed my S corp The funny thing is my SS benefit is still projected to be pretty high maybe 3K a month from my w-2 jobs when i was younger

 

[Havasu blue label]

I "opted out" of social security 20 years ago when I formed my S corp The funny thing is my SS benefit is still projected to be pretty high maybe 3K a month from my w-2 jobs when i was younger

It should max out about 3 grand

 

[EmpirE231]

Medicare is our problem. If I had my way, we’d all have free healthcare until we reach the age of 25 y/o, after that, it comes out of our own pocket.

so everyone gets free healthcare during the age period that they need it least, then pay for it when they become more at risk and need coverage more?

lol makes a lot of sense, and sounds like something govt would come up with.

I have a great idea... how about no free healthcare coverage for anyone??

 

[BabyRay]

It should max out about 3 grand

Currently, if you wait until age 70 to begin drawing SS, the max is $4873 per month. If you begin at 62, it’s only $2710.

 

[Looking Glass]

Currently, if you wait until age 70 to begin drawing SS, the max is $4873 per month. If you begin at 62, it’s only $2710.

BUT!! I had No Choice but to "Pay In"!!, and they were investing all this "$", NOW it is My Money. I want it. The Funds have been used for numerous things it was never intended for.

 

[checkrdpast]

Bingo!
Covid showed us how little it takes for the average lazy slob to stay home and just get fatter. Give the average american 500 bucks a week and they will never work again! Pathetic.

But complain at the people who d and have nice things.

 

[regor]

Biden has done his job for the elite.

Middle Class, sorry, can't help you serfs. Social Security will be slashed!!!!!!!

Millennials and Gen Z, no houses for you. You will enjoy your rent, just like we conditioned you.

 

[BHC Vic]

Biden has done his job for the elite.

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Middle Class, sorry, can't help you serfs. Social Security will be slashed!!!!!!!

Millennials and Gen Z, no houses for you!!!

 

[Hypnautic]

My .02 on these two topics.

Home prices continue to rise on steady annual appreciation. My tenants asked if they could extend their leases without any price increases--which I happy obliged.
I watch home and rent prices in only a few markets. Hawaii, Nevada, Springfield/Eugene OR and TN between Knoxville and Chattanooga. Every single market has been increasing. Some faster than others. Amazing how quickly a 2.5-3.5M home in HI will sell. TN im seeing about a 10% increase over the last 2 years.
A dip in the market means nothing if your not selling. It presents opportunity if you are buying. Money is always made on the buy--not the sell.
A market correction is coming just as sure as the sun setting--just not today or tomorrow, but one day those two things will line up.

As for Social Security.
Ive heard for the longest that SS would not be there when I retire. Why anyone would trust the Govt to correctly and honestly fund your benefit is beyond me.
I tell my children that they need to be responsible for their outcome in life. If the Govt gives them some SS benefit than that is just a plus plus.
Here is what I think everyone should do to secure their owns children's and grandchildren's future.
On the day they were born--open up a bank account. Now its difficult to open up an account for them without a Social Security # (unless you know someone at the bank) so you may have to wait a few months. Provide that number to all family members and ask in liew of gifts on BDays/Holidays/etc they simply make a deposit to that acct. They can give cash/check to me and I will deposit for them if needed. Not all family friends will give the $$ and will buy presents instead--and thats fine too. Those funds roll into reinvesting high yield CD's. With a $1000 to start acct and average $700 contribution each year--you should have ~$22-26K by the time they are early 20's. Acct is in their name so when ready to buy a home--there's a great chunk of down payment.

Next if you want your children/grandchildren to retire as Millionaires it only takes $10,000. Open an account (again when they are born) that only invests in Index funds. SP index has averaged at least 10%. $10K over 50yrs at 10% return is over 1.4M in 50 years. Over 4M if averages 12%.

Now Im not a "professional" investor or property analyst--but I opened my first Trading acct (with Parents help) at the age of 16, thats what I wanted that year. Bought my first home in OC at 24 and own a few NOO properties now. Those steps above are exactly what I did for our children and it creates great opportunity to speak to the kids about money and how you handle it as they grow up.

 

[Cdog]

My .02 on these two topics.

Home prices continue to rise on steady annual appreciation. My tenants asked if they could extend their leases without any price increases--which I happy obliged.
I watch home and rent prices in only a few markets. Hawaii, Nevada, Springfield/Eugene OR and TN between Knoxville and Chattanooga. Every single market has been increasing. Some faster than others. Amazing how quickly a 2.5-3.5M home in HI will sell. TN im seeing about a 10% increase over the last 2 years.
A dip in the market means nothing if your not selling. It presents opportunity if you are buying. Money is always made on the buy--not the sell.
A market correction is coming just as sure as the sun setting--just not today or tomorrow, but one day those two things will line up.

As for Social Security.
Ive heard for the longest that SS would not be there when I retire. Why anyone would trust the Govt to correctly and honestly fund your benefit is beyond me.
I tell my children that they need to be responsible for their outcome in life. If the Govt gives them some SS benefit than that is just a plus plus.
Here is what I think everyone should do to secure their owns children's and grandchildren's future.
On the day they were born--open up a bank account. Now its difficult to open up an account for them without a Social Security # (unless you know someone at the bank) so you may have to wait a few months. Provide that number to all family members and ask in liew of gifts on BDays/Holidays/etc they simply make a deposit to that acct. They can give cash/check to me and I will deposit for them if needed. Not all family friends will give the $$ and will buy presents instead--and thats fine too. Those funds roll into reinvesting high yield CD's. With a $1000 to start acct and average $700 contribution each year--you should have ~$22-26K by the time they are early 20's. Acct is in their name so when ready to buy a home--there's a great chunk of down payment.

Next if you want your children/grandchildren to retire as Millionaires it only takes $10,000. Open an account (again when they are born) that only invests in Index funds. SP index has averaged at least 10%. $10K over 50yrs at 10% return is over 1.4M in 50 years. Over 4M if averages 12%.

Now Im not a "professional" investor or property analyst--but I opened my first Trading acct (with Parents help) at the age of 16, thats what I wanted that year. Bought my first home in OC at 24 and own a few NOO properties now. Those steps above are exactly what I did for our children and it creates great opportunity to speak to the kids about money and how you handle it as they grow up.

Bravo!

My dad asked how should inheritance be given to my kids. I asked him to plan ahead and fund an IRA in a S&P 500 index fund with whatever he has planned.

No senior trips, we have college covered & a car. Think generational

 

[Gonefishin5555]

My .02 on these two topics.

Home prices continue to rise on steady annual appreciation. My tenants asked if they could extend their leases without any price increases--which I happy obliged.
I watch home and rent prices in only a few markets. Hawaii, Nevada, Springfield/Eugene OR and TN between Knoxville and Chattanooga. Every single market has been increasing. Some faster than others. Amazing how quickly a 2.5-3.5M home in HI will sell. TN im seeing about a 10% increase over the last 2 years.
A dip in the market means nothing if your not selling. It presents opportunity if you are buying. Money is always made on the buy--not the sell.
A market correction is coming just as sure as the sun setting--just not today or tomorrow, but one day those two things will line up.

As for Social Security.
Ive heard for the longest that SS would not be there when I retire. Why anyone would trust the Govt to correctly and honestly fund your benefit is beyond me.
I tell my children that they need to be responsible for their outcome in life. If the Govt gives them some SS benefit than that is just a plus plus.
Here is what I think everyone should do to secure their owns children's and grandchildren's future.
On the day they were born--open up a bank account. Now its difficult to open up an account for them without a Social Security # (unless you know someone at the bank) so you may have to wait a few months. Provide that number to all family members and ask in liew of gifts on BDays/Holidays/etc they simply make a deposit to that acct. They can give cash/check to me and I will deposit for them if needed. Not all family friends will give the $$ and will buy presents instead--and thats fine too. Those funds roll into reinvesting high yield CD's. With a $1000 to start acct and average $700 contribution each year--you should have ~$22-26K by the time they are early 20's. Acct is in their name so when ready to buy a home--there's a great chunk of down payment.

Next if you want your children/grandchildren to retire as Millionaires it only takes $10,000. Open an account (again when they are born) that only invests in Index funds. SP index has averaged at least 10%. $10K over 50yrs at 10% return is over 1.4M in 50 years. Over 4M if averages 12%.

Now Im not a "professional" investor or property analyst--but I opened my first Trading acct (with Parents help) at the age of 16, thats what I wanted that year. Bought my first home in OC at 24 and own a few NOO properties now. Those steps above are exactly what I did for our children and it creates great opportunity to speak to the kids about money and how you handle it as they grow up.

New law allows unused 529 plan funds to roll into Roth. This is the future way to fund retirement for kids/grandkids but you gotta start early. The money has to be in the 529 plan 15 years prior to the rollover. Its a new law we need more info on this before we jump in on it.

 

[Hypnautic]

New law allows unused 529 plan funds to roll into Roth. This is the future way to fund retirement for kids/grandkids but you gotta start early. The money has to be in the 529 plan 15 years prior to the rollover. Its a new law we need more info on this before we jump in on it.

I strayed from the 529 Plan as it specifically referenced that the funds be used for school.
Now terms of the 529 may have changed, but at that time I worried that an investment may be stuck or heavily taxed if we did not want to use those funds for education. Yes you could gift the account to other children/grandchildren but that still left a lot of funds tied up under a specific category.
Figured to invest in something with less restrictions was best for us.

 

[DC-88]

I strayed from the 529 Plan as it specifically referenced that the funds be used for school.
Now terms of the 529 may have changed, but at that time I worried that an investment may be stuck or heavily taxed if we did not want to use those funds for education. Yes you could gift the account to other children/grandchildren but that still left a lot of funds tied up under a specific category.
Figured to invest in something with less restrictions was best for us.

Same here as far as staying away from those 529's and just doing custodial accts. We did the same, always discussed finance and business terms with our kids, and had them putting their gift money away and tracking it to buy their first vehicles . My kids never got all sideways but at 18 they can take the $$ in those custodials if they knew about it . I told them I was paying for college as long as no liberal arts, but they were in the dark as to where it was coming from leading up to graduating .Thanks to AAPL and a few others over the last 12 years or so I was able to even up the accts after college was done, and turn them over to them with a nice down payment boost for first homes. I waited to see them save a bunch up on their own first after getting careers going, and then looped them into it all so they were super stoked. Now they have added more $$ after homebuying , trade stocks and long term stuff in those exact same brokerage accts which I can still see online, plus have pretty solid IRA stuff going through work so they may actually be better off than I was at that age, and I bought my first house at 23.

 

[arch stanton]

As long as the us government exists you will get a SS benefit payment it does not matter if they spend it all or give money to a million illegals they just print more and print is really not what happens they just put 2000 dollars on your card the only time it is actually paper money is if you go to the bank and withdraw cash otherwise we all just spend digital dollars.
The government is spending 1 trillion dollars it does not have every 90 days ( I think that’s the right time frame )
The government does not have the ability to print enough 100 dollar bills to make a trillion in 90 days
1 billon dollars fit on 10 standard pallets so 1 trillion on pallets is 10,000 pallets a semi trucks hauls about 24 pallets so 1 trillion is 417 truck loads of 100 dollar bills.
Now while I am confident you will be payed a SS benefit I have no idea what it will actually purchase even adjusted for inflation?

 

[Englewood]

As long as the us government exists you will get a SS benefit payment it does not matter if they spend it all or give money to a million illegals they just print more and print is really not what happens they just put 2000 dollars on your card the only time it is actually paper money is if you go to the bank and withdraw cash otherwise we all just spend digital dollars.
The government is spending 1 trillion dollars it does not have every 90 days ( I think that’s the right time frame )
The government does not have the ability to print enough 100 dollar bills to make a trillion in 90 days
1 billon dollars fit on 10 standard pallets so 1 trillion on pallets is 10,000 pallets a semi trucks hauls about 24 pallets so 1 trillion is 417 truck loads of 100 dollar bills.
Now while I am confident you will be payed a SS benefit I have no idea what it will actually purchase even adjusted for inflation?

If we did what the gov does with SS, we would be in jail for running a Ponzi Scheme.

 

[77charger]

The Insulting Reality of this is the older Generation are the ones who will Show Up and Work .

I’m 51 now work part time but when I do I get my job done quickly and easily.I work with my brother as he struggles to find good help. Right now there’s 6 of us 2 are flaky. One can’t figure out things at times yesterday ran of of propane and forgot extra staples so after 2 stops called it a day.

The other is a new hire started out fine first month or two. Now claims his back hurts but says he’ll be hood to work in couple days. Shows up now says he doesn’t like large jobs and thinks we should turn the larger showers down. Yesterday saw his first stop was large just skips it. Finds excuse at next one not to do it. Then add the times he just says his back hurts to skip out on rest of day.

This guy is early 20s or so. They have feeling he wants to get fired to collect unemployment. There was another younger guy couple months ago who was flaky he quit and one of the days he bailed on me because he was late to work by 20 min and I didn’t want to stop at ampm so he could shop. Had to drive to la from south oc and I hate traffic. But funny he would show up after I loaded truck I don’t wait on flakes!!

 

[LuauLounge]

I see the whole economic history of this country over the last 100 years.
My grandfather lived through the depression ~ HE WANTED A JOB

My father worked in 2 jobs - 18 year old USN Fighter Pilot and then Civil Service - He wanted a job where Mom could stay home with the kids and a GOOD PENSION

I didn’t want to depend on anyone for a job or pension - I worked for a few - and When I was in my early 20’s I wanted all the bills paid and $100 in my epocket, and that’s been and still my goal.
Today’s Generation DOESN’T WANT a JOB or a PENSION
Skill or knowledge shouldn’t be required. I have Google and YouTube.

 

[Looking Glass]

I see the whole economic history of this country over the last 100 years.
My grandfather lived through the depression ~ HE WANTED A JOB

My father worked in 2 jobs - 18 year old USN Fighter Pilot and then Civil Service - He wanted a job where Mom could stay home with the kids and a GOOD PENSION

I didn’t want to depend on anyone for a job or pension - I worked for a few - and When I was in my early 20’s I wanted all the bills paid and $100 in my epocket, and that’s been and still my goal.
Today’s Generation DOESN’T WANT a JOB or a PENSION
Skill or knowledge shouldn’t be required. I have Google and YouTube.

A "Goal" isn't necessary, A "Skill" isn't necessary, HELL a "Job" isn't Necessary!!


What Is Necessary, People who are willing to work for all those above who Believe that They are "Entitled" to FREE- Food, Utilities, AND as Crazy as it sounds, A Free Education.

They Are "Entitled", You Know.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

This thread is all over the place.

All we need to do is teach these kids what kind of life they can live if we are a collectivist socialist society. A summer camp on the Navajo reservation will show them what they can expect when living off handouts. The roadmap is right there, not in some far-off socialist country.

I spent two summers in middle school on the Navajo reservation, significantly impacting my mindset.

The healthcare debate frustrates me. It seems easy to solve. If you want health care, join the Military and build up the VA services. The only free ride for health care should be children. They don't choose which family they are born into, and I believe it is a good investment to secure a healthy youth. That does not seem impossible to solve.

If you don't want to serve in the military, let's bring back the CCC and give people the opportunity to serve in another way to earn health care benefits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps


I was on a work call yesterday trying to solve a complex problem with a leadership team. One team member stated the obvious. "Let's not let backward compatibility get in the way of a future solution." That seemed like a solid approach. Sorry GenX, you got screwed; let's see what we can do for our grandkids.