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Pool home with covered RV parking for under $500k

Listed for $560k in August and sold for $480k yesterday.
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Seems optimistic without a rate buy down. The Fed has indicated they will continue to raise till inflation is brought under control, and then hold. Fed funds rate will likely be 4.25 to 4.5% after today with more increases on the way in Q1.

I realize the two are not correlated, but to have new mortgage rates same or lower than the Fed funds rate seems unlikely to me.
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Here's some observations from my part of the world.

We sold our house in Plano in August and moved 15 miles east of McKinney. It's becoming clear we caught the top of the market. Sales and prices are declining rapidly.

There are many single home, duplex, and fourplex "communities" being built in North Texas, and they are 100% rentals. Some are bizarre. There are a couple near us that consist of hundreds of identical single family box houses on zero lot lines.

When we were in Abilene last month for my nephew's wedding, it was even stranger. Driving south of town a couple of miles to the venue, there were two subdivisions of what can only be described as barracks. The single story buildings were about 50' wide and 250' long with a single ridge pitched roof, built back to back with a roughly 40' wide space between them. Each contained six "homes". The streets were laid out in rectangles, and the overall look was like 1950s military base housing.

Obviously these are being built as cheaply as possible, with few amenities. Rents are over $2,500 for a three bedroom two bath home. As for apartments, a search shows there are about 60,000 under construction in the DFW area. That's been roughly the same number for three years.

Meanwhile, there are signs that single family home sales are rapidly decreasing. From the Dallas Morning News last week:

Dallas-Fort Worth single-family home sales fell 30% from November 2021 to 2022, the sharpest decline since immediately after the Great Recession.

The metro area saw 5,791 single-family home sales in November, according to the latest housing market report from Texas Real Estate Research Center at Texas A&M University and North Texas Real Estate Information System

The last home sales decline of more than 30% was in July 2010, Texas A&M records show.

The median sale price of a single-family home dropped almost 9% from a record $435,000 in May and June to $396,500 in November. That’s still way higher than home costs were three years ago, when the median price was about $280,000.
 

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End of the year snapshot from my perspective.
1. Housing market is falling at fastest pace since 2008. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/real-estate/housing-market-predictions/
2. Tech layoffs above year 2001 levels. I work in Tech. We are laying off Oracle engineers and hiring MongoDB engineers
3. 2022 Consumer credit card debt nears $1 trillion dollars (925B to be exact) for first time. https://www.lendingtree.com/credit-cards/credit-card-debt-statistics/ Think that through for a minute 🤔

Meanwhile the Fed says we MIGHT see a slight recession in 2023. I think not. We are either on the cusp of a recession or in a recession. Stock market is not doing so well today since the Fed hiked the rate yesterday. Probably a coincidence. Hold on to your hats indeed in 2023.
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End of the year snapshot from my perspective.
1. Housing market is falling at fastest pace since 2008. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/real-estate/housing-market-predictions/
2. Tech layoffs above year 2001 levels. I work in Tech. We are laying off Oracle engineers and hiring MongoDB engineers
3. 2022 Consumer credit card debt nears $1 trillion dollars (925B to be exact) for first time. https://www.lendingtree.com/credit-cards/credit-card-debt-statistics/ Think that through for a minute 🤔

Meanwhile the Fed says we MIGHT see a slight recession in 2023. I think not. We are either on the cusp of a recession or in a recession. Stock market is not doing so well today since the Fed hiked the rate yesterday. Probably a coincidence. Hold on to your hats indeed in 2023.
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logged onto my facebook this morning and saw a video from an old stay at home mom friend that started crushing it in real estate a few years ago, talking about how the market is not crashing... and how it's comparable to pre-covid times where homes took a month or two to sell and prices were negotiated down.

This right here is the sign lol
 

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Great, let me know when rates are in the mid 2% range. Would like to refinance.

End of the year snapshot from my perspective.
1. Housing market is falling at fastest pace since 2008. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/real-estate/housing-market-predictions/
2. Tech layoffs above year 2001 levels. I work in Tech. We are laying off Oracle engineers and hiring MongoDB engineers
3. 2022 Consumer credit card debt nears $1 trillion dollars (925B to be exact) for first time. https://www.lendingtree.com/credit-cards/credit-card-debt-statistics/ Think that through for a minute 🤔

Meanwhile the Fed says we MIGHT see a slight recession in 2023. I think not. We are either on the cusp of a recession or in a recession. Stock market is not doing so well today since the Fed hiked the rate yesterday. Probably a coincidence. Hold on to your hats indeed in 2023.
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But But But But....how can that be....housing is just adjusting back to what it should be and no big deal if interest rates have doubled or even tripled in some cases (as of today reported 30 year fixed lowered a bit to an average of 6.3/6.5%), no worries that 75% or more of folks cannot afford to buy a house right now, and layoffs are increasing but that is nothing to worry about, and and and........of course I am making fun of the naysayers and agreeing with you on your points 100%....I also personally feel once the 2 year treasury yield went higher than the 10 year for more than a few months (I think about 5 months now) we are either entering or soon to be in a recession. Hat holding for the intelligent has already begun.....
 

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The funniest part of this thread is all the Naysayers that are financial and real estate investing experts saying OH that price was just to high, or inflated and now it adjusted so no hat holding needed and no drop, or pointing out some house in some of the hottest parts of the country selling for a high price and ignoring the rest of the country and financial markets, any excuse to deny the facts. I cannot help but laugh at those comments. IT has just begun....if anyone follows the stock market and actual financial news and reports it is clear as can be that debt is increasing by leaps and bounds, mortgage rates have gone up dramatically and a lot of folks (maybe not the real estate and financial experts here on RDP) but a lot throughout the country have started to suffer and it is only getting worse. Hat holding still suggested because the gusts have started and going to continue for another year or two. 🤠

I am curious as to who you are talking about on here with regard to “rdp”. Because I am the “rd” in the rdp, our company sold more real estate last year than most on here combined have ever.. and you don’t see us on here making projections? Or holding hats or not?

I can tell you that things have slowed down from Covid.. but Covid was flipping crazy?

We are seeing movement again though. I was only present for a few minutes of this weeks weekly TRDP meeting but several of the agents new and seasoned said they were out looking with clients.. several have houses in escrow.

I was going to ask for a weekly report each week to update this thread with to give you guys some real numbers but I had to leave suddenly for another thing.

That is something I’m going to start though so you guys can get a window into actual sales numbers from a re company in LHC
 

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logged onto my facebook this morning and saw a video from an old stay at home mom friend that started crushing it in real estate a few years ago, talking about how the market is not crashing... and how it's comparable to pre-covid times where homes took a month or two to sell and prices were negotiated down.

This right here is the sign lol

I’m not sure how that can’t be anything but accurate?

Do you think it’s normal for houses to sell in one day with multiple offers over asking?

Or normal for realtors to say “buy it and if you don’t like it I’ll get you out of it!”

Or for customers to be panic buying houses because they missed the last six?

Lol

That is abnormal and obviously there’s no where to go but down from that mountain..

I don’t know if it’s going to completely tank or not.. but setting that as the bar anything is going to be down.
 

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But But But But....how can that be....housing is just adjusting back to what it should be and no big deal if interest rates have doubled or even tripled in some cases (as of today reported 30 year fixed lowered a bit to an average of 6.3/6.5%), no worries that 75% or more of folks cannot afford to buy a house right now, and layoffs are increasing but that is nothing to worry about, and and and........of course I am making fun of the naysayers and agreeing with you on your points 100%....I also personally feel once the 2 year treasury yield went higher than the 10 year for more than a few months (I think about 5 months now) we are either entering or soon to be in a recession. Hat holding for the intelligent has already begun.....
Schoolsfirst 7/1 ARM is 4.75%. I'd do that loan and then look at jumping to a 15yr when the rates drop.
 

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I am curious as to who you are talking about on here with regard to “rdp”. Because I am the “rd” in the rdp, our company sold more real estate last year than most on here combined have ever.. and you don’t see us on here making projections? Or holding hats or not?

I can tell you that things have slowed down from Covid.. but Covid was flipping crazy?

We are seeing movement again though. I was only present for a few minutes of this weeks weekly TRDP meeting but several of the agents new and seasoned said they were out looking with clients.. several have houses in escrow.

I was going to ask for a weekly report each week to update this thread with to give you guys some real numbers but I had to leave suddenly for another thing.

That is something I’m going to start though so you guys can get a window into actual sales numbers from a re company in LHC
Not directed at your firm or Lake Havasu in general, they are directed at the Entire US in general and where we are heading. My RDP expert comment was directed at the the Naysayers that had attacked vs discussed, they know who they are, I should have been clearer. There will be pockets in our country that are doing well, there are more that are not, the economy is entering or is in a recession, COVID IS OVER, things have changed, prices are dropping around the US, rates are double, triple from what they used to be at their lowest in the past 2-3 years, stock market is in correction, credit card debt is at its highest closing in on 1 TRILLION Dollars, highest it has ever been, things have changed, and are getting worse around the country except for some hot spots, facts are facts. Once housing catches up to the interest rate hikes we will see the true results. It would be interesting to see what your reports look like, what asking and selling prices were every 3 months for the last 3 years in Havi as an example to show increased prices, sales, slowdown, drops. etc... In my future posts I will make sure to not state RDP and just state Naysayers, that would clear it up.
 

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I am curious as to who you are talking about on here with regard to “rdp”. Because I am the “rd” in the rdp, our company sold more real estate last year than most on here combined have ever.. and you don’t see us on here making projections? Or holding hats or not?

I can tell you that things have slowed down from Covid.. but Covid was flipping crazy?

We are seeing movement again though. I was only present for a few minutes of this weeks weekly TRDP meeting but several of the agents new and seasoned said they were out looking with clients.. several have houses in escrow.

I was going to ask for a weekly report each week to update this thread with to give you guys some real numbers but I had to leave suddenly for another thing.

That is something I’m going to start though so you guys can get a window into actual sales numbers from a re company in LHC

It is no use talking any facts, data or anything, with a few on here. Their minds are made up, they are smarter than everyone.
 

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I’m not sure how that can’t be anything but accurate?

Do you think it’s normal for houses to sell in one day with multiple offers over asking?

Or normal for realtors to say “buy it and if you don’t like it I’ll get you out of it!”

Or for customers to be panic buying houses because they missed the last six?

Lol

That is abnormal and obviously there’s no where to go but down from that mountain..

I don’t know if it’s going to completely tank or not.. but setting that as the bar anything is going to be down.

My post was sort of a joke..... and poking fun the scenarios where people (with no experience) jump into a market that is on fire (real estate or mortgage) and all the sudden become experts in cycles of the market.

Is it not strange that we went from an insanely busy market where things sold in a day for way over asking, to things beings very stagnant so quickly? Yes in "normal" conditions... things take longer to sell / prices are negotiated etc.... but this is anything other than normal... it is a whipsaw effect compared to how things were for the last 2 years or so. Rarely does a whipsaw effect just return things to "normal"

as posted earlier.... rates really aren't THAT bad..... so why are things not moving as quickly as they were 6 months ago? especially considering that we have an inventory problem as most experts suggest??
 

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logged onto my facebook this morning and saw a video from an old stay at home mom friend that started crushing it in real estate a few years ago, talking about how the market is not crashing... and how it's comparable to pre-covid times where homes took a month or two to sell and prices were negotiated down.

This right here is the sign lol
Those types are the first ones to go broke. The big RE trainers are telling these agents to make those videos. Most agents don't understand basic economics.

Until we drop below 2019 prices, I'm not worried. Especially with rates going down.
 

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My post was sort of a joke..... and poking fun the scenarios where people (with no experience) jump into a market that is on fire (real estate or mortgage) and all the sudden become experts in cycles of the market.

Is it not strange that we went from an insanely busy market where things sold in a day for way over asking, to things beings very stagnant so quickly? Yes in "normal" conditions... things take longer to sell / prices are negotiated etc.... but this is anything other than normal... it is a whipsaw effect compared to how things were for the last 2 years or so. Rarely does a whipsaw effect just return things to "normal"

as posted earlier.... rates really aren't THAT bad..... so why are things not moving as quickly as they were 6 months ago? especially considering that we have an inventory problem as most experts suggest??
Things aren't moving because you have sellers who still think it is 2021 and don't want to negotiate. Also, Q4 is literally THE SLOWEST quarter for RE in normal markets. Lets revisit this in Spring 2023 when rates are in the high 4's - low 5's and buying season is upon us.
 

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It is no use talking any facts, data or anything, with a few on here. Their minds are made up, they are smarter than everyone.
See that is where you are wrong, facts are all I go by, not emotion, not dreaming, not worried about sales or commission or what loan I write, my mind changes all the time when facts change, keeping my eyes open watching the direction we are heading in every single day tells me all I need to know. And I am glad you stated "Their minds are made up, they are smarter than everyone"...seems some naysayers should look in the mirror.
 

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Things aren't moving because you have sellers who still think it is 2021 and don't want to negotiate. Also, Q4 is literally THE SLOWEST quarter for RE in normal markets. Lets revisit this in Spring 2023 when rates are in the high 4's - low 5's and buying season is upon us.
So you are saying their prices should drop to start moving sales?
 

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See that is where you are wrong, facts are all I go by, not emotion, not dreaming, not worried about sales or commission or what loan I write, my mind changes all the time when facts change, keeping my eyes open watching the direction we are heading in every single day tells me all I need to know. And I am glad you stated "Their minds are made up, they are smarter than everyone"...seems some naysayers should look in the mirror.
You don't post any facts. All you post are links to MSM articles. You consistently copy and paste articles that go along with your agenda, to try and prove your point.

Fact is, this thread is now 6 months old and nothing that you have said throughout these 75 pages has come to fruition.

Meanwhile, my hat is just fine, rates peaked and we will be in for a nice buying season this spring.
 

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My post was sort of a joke..... and poking fun the scenarios where people (with no experience) jump into a market that is on fire (real estate or mortgage) and all the sudden become experts in cycles of the market.

Is it not strange that we went from an insanely busy market where things sold in a day for way over asking, to things beings very stagnant so quickly? Yes in "normal" conditions... things take longer to sell / prices are negotiated etc.... but this is anything other than normal... it is a whipsaw effect compared to how things were for the last 2 years or so. Rarely does a whipsaw effect just return things to "normal"

as posted earlier.... rates really aren't THAT bad..... so why are things not moving as quickly as they were 6 months ago? especially considering that we have an inventory problem as most experts
Not directed at your firm or Lake Havasu in general, they are directed at the Entire US in general and where we are heading. My RDP expert comment was directed at the the Naysayers that had attacked vs discussed, they know who they are, I should have been clearer. There will be pockets in our country that are doing well, there are more that are not, the economy is entering or is in a recession, COVID IS OVER, things have changed, prices are dropping around the US, rates are double, triple from what they used to be at their lowest in the past 2-3 years, stock market is in correction, credit card debt is at its highest closing in on 1 TRILLION Dollars, highest it has ever been, things have changed, and are getting worse around the country except for some hot spots, facts are facts. Once housing catches up to the interest rate hikes we will see the true results. It would be interesting to see what your reports look like, what asking and selling prices were every 3 months for the last 3 years in Havi as an example to show increased prices, sales, slowdown, drops. etc... In my future posts I will make sure to not state RDP and just state Naysayers, that would clear it up.
The run is over hopefully everyone saved
 

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You don't post any facts. All you post are links to MSM articles. You consistently copy and paste articles that go along with your agenda, to try and prove your point.

Fact is, this thread is now 6 months old and nothing that you have said throughout these 75 pages has come to fruition.

Meanwhile, my hat is just fine, rates peaked and we will be in for a nice buying season this spring.
LOL, you are just to funny. MSM really? You must really be a bit blind or in denial about our economy....Don't get offended because backend loan $ is threatened by this post and any factual comment about the slowdown. I read, I watch, I invest. You need to learn how to read and comprehend, read the first post, read my updates on timelines, facts are facts housing is changing every single day and by estimated timeline we will see a nice drop in housing prices as first posted the slowdown is already here....OH and by your other post "Things aren't moving because you have sellers who still think it is 2021 and don't want to negotiate". So you have walked yourself into a corner, on one had you say it is all good, the other hand you say they need to lower the price from what they were to sell.........
Keep spewing the denial naysaying but I feel sorry for the hundreds of thousands that bought during the peak and panic buying that will be upside down on the numbers when we get back to YOUR NORMAL lol...
 

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LOL, you are just to funny. MSM really? You must really be a bit blind or in denial about our economy....Don't get offended because backend loan $ is threatened by this post and any factual comment about the slowdown. I read, I watch, I invest. You need to learn how to read and comprehend, read the first post, read my updates on timelines, facts are facts housing is changing every single day and by estimated timeline we will see a nice drop in housing prices as first posted the slowdown is already here....OH and by your other post "Things aren't moving because you have sellers who still think it is 2021 and don't want to negotiate". So you have walked yourself into a corner, on one had you say it is all good, the other hand you say they need to lower the price from what they were to sell.........
Keep spewing the denial naysaying but I feel sorry for the hundreds of thousands that bought during the peak and panic buying that will be upside down on the numbers when we get back to YOUR NORMAL lol...

Keep feeling sorry for the people that bought during the peak because they are laughing all the way to the bank with their sub 3% interest rates. What you morons don't seem to understand is that these people DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR HOME EQUITY!!!!! How come you can't comprehend that?? These people have shelter, a home to call their own, a place to raise a family and provide a stable lifestyle, all the while, paying less to own their home than to rent it.

Societies view of homeownership shifted during that boom and you guys just can't seem to accept that people aren't concerned with being upside down, if they even are!! Based on the loans that I wrote during that time, the down payments were a lot more than the minimum, so there are a ton of people that aren't close to being upside down.

Lastly, I didn't back myself into any corner at all 😘

Prices have come down, everyone knows that!! So if you price your house like we are still in that anomaly of a market, today, then it isn't going to sell. Seriously, you talk like you are so smart but I am not so sure, since you couldn't comprehend that statement.
 

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JP Morgan Chase just announced a layoff of at least 1000 people and more to come due to the drastic drop in both housing purchases credited to CRAZY HOUSING MARKET slowing correcting and the doubling of interest rates..Redfin, Realtor.com did the same...YOU'VE seen Nothing YET.......if you planned on selling I hope you got it done or soon...if not expect some changes very soon. On the other hand, if you are a potential cash buyer TONS of great opportunities around the corner and from what I am guessing another 2 years of downturn and great prices to start very soon....
That's the first post quoted above. I don't see anything so far that we could point toward to say this post is an incorrect prediction.
  • Are interest rates climbing? Yes, we've not seen that kind of rate hike since the 80s.
  • If you are selling, do it soon. Yes, you've missed it at this point.
  • Downward pressure on prices? Seems like yes.
  • Opportunities? Yes, but inventory is still tight.
More to come, I think.

Sometimes it seems like we are arguing the same things differently so we can be right. I appreciate the various opinions in this thread; they seem helpful when you peel back the noise. I would appreciate a report on sales and inventory from RDP as a benchmark. I'm trying my best to make smart choices; it's good for me to see what others think.
 

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Keep feeling sorry for the people that bought during the peak because they are laughing all the way to the bank with their sub 3% interest rates. What you morons don't seem to understand is that these people DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR HOME EQUITY!!!!! How come you can't comprehend that?? These people have shelter, a home to call their own, a place to raise a family and provide a stable lifestyle, all the while, paying less to own their home than to rent it.

Societies view of homeownership shifted during that boom and you guys just can't seem to accept that people aren't concerned with being upside down, if they even are!! Based on the loans that I wrote during that time, the down payments were a lot more than the minimum, so there are a ton of people that aren't close to being upside down.

Lastly, I didn't back myself into any corner at all 😘

Prices have come down, everyone knows that!! So if you price your house like we are still in that anomaly of a market, today, then it isn't going to sell. Seriously, you talk like you are so smart but I am not so sure, since you couldn't comprehend that statement.
How do you know people dont care about their home equity?? are you a mind reader? Everyone I know thinks about their home equity so your false statement does not fly.
As far as paying less to own their home, what about the people wanting to buy now? Idiots like you that keep trying to sell loans and spewing crap so as not to jeopardize income while some screwed over hundreds of thousands of homeowners back in 06/07/08 knowing the bubble market was heading towards a crash. Idiots that claim people dont care about being upside down are full of shit.

As you state, prices have come down, and I say going down further. So you are also saying since hundreds of thousands bought during THAT ANOMALY OF A MARKET they wont care if they lose huge when the prices ADJUST IF THEY WANT OR NEED TO SELL..lol sure they won't care. I think the mirror needs to be looked at again, maybe you would see yourself in a new light...Insults will get insults, now if you were to talk and comment like a normal human instead of attacks, insults or questioning intelligence maybe there could be a discussion but like I said, insults will get insults.
 

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Here's some observations from my part of the world.

We sold our house in Plano in August and moved 15 miles east of McKinney. It's becoming clear we caught the top of the market. Sales and prices are declining rapidly.

There are many single home, duplex, and fourplex "communities" being built in North Texas, and they are 100% rentals. Some are bizarre. There are a couple near us that consist of hundreds of identical single family box houses on zero lot lines.

When we were in Abilene last month for my nephew's wedding, it was even stranger. Driving south of town a couple of miles to the venue, there were two subdivisions of what can only be described as barracks. The single story buildings were about 50' wide and 250' long with a single ridge pitched roof, built back to back with a roughly 40' wide space between them. Each contained six "homes". The streets were laid out in rectangles, and the overall look was like 1950s military base housing.

Obviously these are being built as cheaply as possible, with few amenities. Rents are over $2,500 for a three bedroom two bath home. As for apartments, a search shows there are about 60,000 under construction in the DFW area. That's been roughly the same number for three years.

Meanwhile, there are signs that single family home sales are rapidly decreasing. From the Dallas Morning News last week:

Dallas-Fort Worth single-family home sales fell 30% from November 2021 to 2022, the sharpest decline since immediately after the Great Recession.

The metro area saw 5,791 single-family home sales in November, according to the latest housing market report from Texas Real Estate Research Center at Texas A&M University and North Texas Real Estate Information System

The last home sales decline of more than 30% was in July 2010, Texas A&M records show.

The median sale price of a single-family home dropped almost 9% from a record $435,000 in May and June to $396,500 in November. That’s still way higher than home costs were three years ago, when the median price was about $280,000.
Good info. Sounds like so many other areas of the country, how can people deny facts just amazes me.
 

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Idiots like you that keep trying to sell loans and spewing crap so as not to jeopardize income while some screwed over hundreds of thousands of homeowners back in 06/07/08 knowing the bubble market was heading towards a crash. Idiots that claim people dont care about being upside down are full of shit.

We aren't in a bubble. This market isn't going to crash. You are the idiot.

People are still buying homes and they are taking out mortgages, I don't put a gun to their head or even sell them on anything. I send over a cost analysis, 3 down payment/cash to close scenarios and payments. They pick A,B or C and I send the loan in.

This isn't a speculative market, even though we all know how much you want it to be.
 

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In the meantime someone grab their hat and call the wife.. 4 1/2 % seller carry on two fairly priced homes.


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We aren't in a bubble. This market isn't going to crash. You are the idiot.

People are still buying homes and they are taking out mortgages, I don't put a gun to their head or even sell them on anything. I send over a cost analysis, 3 down payment/cash to close scenarios and payments. They pick A,B or C and I send the loan in.

This isn't a speculative market, even though we all know how much you want it to be.
I never said we were in a bubble, learn to read. People buying homes have slowed BIG TIME only an idiot cannot see that. It is so funny that you assume so much about others just because you are threatened or disagree with a fact. You sound like the liberals that say we have no border issue, naysaying does not make it true.
 

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I am game, as long as insults don't fly my direction, when they do I throw as good as I get.
 

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In the meantime someone grab their hat and call the wife.. 4 1/2 % seller carry on two fairly priced homes.


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RD
I've seen a couple in Montana as well. One was an assumable VA loan.
 

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Meanwhile, hundreds of people that moved to the city of Maricopa this past year are starting to, or soon will feel the inflation crunch.

Everyone with a mortgage payment starting in January 2023 will pay up to 300 dollars more per month because the property is now taxed on the dwelling not the dirt. These single family track homes sold in the 450K-550K range without an RV garage.

That is 150K more then I paid in 2021 to include a 48’ RV garage. Maricopa will be an interesting market to watch for home investors in 2023 and 2024 if the fed and the housing market stay on the current course. I believe rates will be hiked again possibly .25 in the first quarter of 2023. But I could be wrong. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/after-raising-interest-rates-again-federal-reserve-warns-more-hikes-likely-in-2023#:~:text=After announcing another half-point,it without triggering a recession.
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