DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW IT'S AGAINT THE LAW TO DRIVE YOUR BOAT IF YOU HAVE BEEN DRINKIN

[SRice]

I agree. However and I would be more than happy to do this. We should let some one smoke and someone drink and see who is more impaired. It's absolutely ridiculous to say it's safer to let someone drink a beer than take a hit and drive a boat. Even worse when that translates to buying guns. Impairment is impairment I agree but in no way will I ever say weed is more dangerous or deadly than beer.

Back in 1996 I worked in a "dry" Eskimo village in Alaska. Every once in a while somebody would bring a suitcase of liquor back from Nome or brew up some home brew though, and at those times the village got pretty violent- lots of domestic abuse. I started anecdotally thinking about whether people were more or less likely to be violent when drunk or stoned on marijuana and ever since have been supportive of legalizing marijuana. The law has not caught up to my personal opinions however. There is also some interesting research on how specifically alcohol and marijuana affect our brains and whether one type of impairment is worse than another- but bottom line is don't drive if you are impaired by ANY substance including legal prescription medication.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I'm actually curious now. I'd like to see someone smoke then take the fst. And not the eye test [emoji12] the walking touching your nose that stuff. Weed isn't a poison, it doesn't dehydrate you, you don't wake up feeling like shit after smoking. It's always amazed me why people would rather drink and look down on weed so much. I can't think of anything other than it being illegal. My wife is 33 and never smoked. Probably because it's illegal [emoji4]

That is a BS argument until the weed industry is regulated. You have no idea what you are smoking, and/or what else could be in there with it. If the argument is impairment is illegal, you are impaired when smoking or drinking.

For the record, I don't care if they make weed legal, but yours is the classic stoner argument. People look down on weed because it is illegal, that is really the only reason. I'd rather see the government legalize it, regulate it, then tax it, just like they do with everything else.

 

[BHC Vic]

That is a BS argument until the weed industry is regulated. You have no idea what you are smoking, and/or what else could be in there with it. If the argument is impairment is illegal, you are impaired when smoking or drinking.

For the record, I don't care if they make weed legal, but yours is the classic stoner argument. People look down on weed because it is illegal, that is really the only reason.

What are the other reasons? My wife can't give me any either [emoji12]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What are the other reasons? My wife can't give me any either [emoji12]

That is the only reason... Smoke all you want. It is probably not good for you but drinking isn't either. But enjoyed in moderation and responsibly, I don't know why anyone cares.

I know people who have had their spouses sit around and smoke everyday. I think it gets old seeing someone sitting around and doing nothing but getting high in their free time. That could be another reason, but you can say the same for an alcoholic. That is an addiction problem though.

 

[BHC Vic]

That is the only reason... Smoke all you want. It is probably not good for you but drinking isn't either. But enjoyed in moderation and responsibly, I don't know why anyone cares.

Which do you think is more dangerous?why is one legal and one not

 

[t&y]

I'm actually curious now. I'd like to see someone smoke then take the fst. And not the eye test [emoji12] the walking touching your nose that stuff. Weed isn't a poison, it doesn't dehydrate you, you don't wake up feeling like shit after smoking. It's always amazed me why people would rather drink and look down on weed so much. I can't think of anything other than it being illegal. My wife is 33 and never smoked. Probably because it's illegal [emoji4]

Ok. You smoke your joint, I'll drink my Bud light, and we'll do the test. My guess is neither of us will be imparied enough to trigger anything after one or the other (not talking about a cheech and chong 3 ft. joint)

My biggest argument against weed is the same as against your standard cigarette. I can stand next to you while drinking a beer and you will not be affected by it. But If I stand next to you smoking tobacco or weed you will be affected by it. Can't wait to hear how second had smoke from weed doesn't affect anyone after pages and pages of any amount ingested equals impairment:thumbsup.

 

[BHC Vic]

Ok. You smoke your joint, I'll drink my Bud light, and we'll do the test. My guess is neither of us will be imparied enough to trigger anything after one oo the other (not talking about a cheech and chong 3 ft. joint)

My biggest argument against weed is the same as against your standard cigarette. I can stand next to you while drinking a beer and you will not be affected by it. But If I stand next to you smoking tobacco or weed you will be affected by it. Can't wait to hear how second had smoke from weed doesn't affect anyone after pages and pages of any amount ingested equals impairment:thumbsup.

Fair. How about this. I'll smoke six joints you drink 6 beers then lets test [emoji4]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Which do you think is more dangerous?why is one legal and one not

In moderation, neither.

 

[BHC Vic]

In moderation, neither.

[emoji57]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Ok. You smoke your joint, I'll drink my Bud light, and we'll do the test. My guess is neither of us will be imparied enough to trigger anything after one or the other (not talking about a cheech and chong 3 ft. joint)

My biggest argument against weed is the same as against your standard cigarette. I can stand next to you while drinking a beer and you will not be affected by it. But If I stand next to you smoking tobacco or weed you will be affected by it. Can't wait to hear how second had smoke from weed doesn't affect anyone after pages and pages of any amount ingested equals impairment:thumbsup.

+1.

 

[BHC Vic]

Tobacco is already legal. Weed isn't

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

[emoji57]

Ok so smoke a joint every day for the rest of your life, and I'll drink a beer every day the rest of my life. You'll die of lung disease, I'll die of liver disease. If you are standing next to me every day, I'll die of both, you murderer.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Tobacco is already legal. Weed isn't

At this point what difference does it make? I didn't make the federal law. Many states are circumnavigating federal law and allowing it.

 

[BHC Vic]

At this point what difference does it make?

A huge difference. You can get in a lot of trouble for just having weed in Arizona. People w cards can't buy guns. It makes a huge difference!!!! That's my point it's ridiculous

 

[t&y]

Fair. How about this. I'll smoke six joints you drink 6 beers than lets test [emoji4]

Sounds fun. Until you realize beer per can has a regulated percentage of alcohol, where as your "joint" could vary from type of weed (sativa and indica) and the actual quality of the strain. You going to be smoking stress, or salted monkey nuts?

 

[BHC Vic]

We are saying it's ok to drink and drive your boat but not ok to smoke a joint and drive and not ok to smoke and own a gun. REALLY!?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

A huge difference. You can get in a lot of trouble for just having weed in Arizona. People w cards can't buy guns. It makes a huge difference!!!! That's my point it's ridiculous

There are many ridiculous laws. I am not saying you are wrong, but as of now you are in violation of federal law if you are smoking weed, so you probably should not get a gun. If they change the law, then great.

 

[BHC Vic]

Sounds fun. Until you realize beer per can has a regulated percentage of alcohol, where as your "joint" could vary from type of weed (sativa and indica) and the actual quality of the strain. You going to be smoking stress, or salted monkey nuts?

I'll smoke the best of the best it really doesn't matter. I'll probably be a little paranoid because I don't smoke like I used to but I'm still game [emoji4]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

We are saying it's ok to drink and drive your boat but not ok to smoke a joint and drive and not ok to smoke and own a gun. REALLY!?

The problem comes with regulation. A joint is not regulated or controlled, and that is where the argument falls apart.

 

[t&y]

Tobacco is already legal. Weed isn't

Weed will be soon enough then you can enjoy your vise all you want:thumbsup

 

[BHC Vic]

Weed will be soon enough then you can enjoy your vise all you want:thumbsup

Unfortunately my wife doesn't approve of it and doesn't want it around the kids. Once I quit she pretty much said thats it. So now it's basically vacations if that. Maybe once it's legal and not looked down upon but as far as I'm concerned that ship has sailed

 

[BHC Vic]

The problem comes with regulation. A joint is not regulated or controlled, and that is where the argument falls apart.

No regulation because it's illegal [emoji23]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Unfortunately my wife doesn't approve of it and doesn't want it around the kids. Once I quit she pretty much said thats it. So now it's basically vacations if that. Maybe once it's legal and not looked down upon but as far as I'm concerned that ship has sailed

So you are just going to argue with us about it instead

 

[BHC Vic]

I'm not arguing because I smoke weed I'm arguing because I can look at both sides and come to these conclusions. Currently I don't drink or smoke [emoji4]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

No regulation because it's illegal [emoji23]

And now you are sliding down the slippery slope!

 

[BHC Vic]

And now you are sliding down the slippery slope!

Not really. I'm just pissed off because ive had my card and have no idea how that will effect me buying guns and ammo and honestly I think it's a bunch of bs

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I'm not arguing because I smoke weed I'm arguing because I can look at both sides and come to these conclusions. Currently I don't drink or smoke [emoji4]

I'm not saying you are wrong, it just happens to be against the law.

 

[BHC Vic]

I'm not saying you are wrong, it just happens to be against the law.

Right, and imo it's a bunch of crap [emoji4]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not really. I'm just pissed off because ive had my card and have no idea how that will effect me buying guns and ammo and honestly I think it's a bunch of bs

There are certainly ways around it, but I am sure that is biting many people applying for jobs, etc.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Right, and imo it's a bunch of crap [emoji4]

I tried to by paint for my race car yesterday and they wont ship it to CA.. That is a bunch of crap.

 

[t&y]

I'll smoke the best of the best it really doesn't matter. I'll probably be a little paranoid because I don't smoke like I used to but I'm still game [emoji4]

Hmm lol.. So you think the test results would be the same if you match your high end Sativa strain vesus Inidica? The only two beers I drink at the river BudLight, or CoorLight. Given alcohol is a depresent the closer test would be a beer versus Indica. We'll go to a head shop and pick out some nice heavy THC content Indica for you and then roll over to Vons and pick up some well regulated, same alcohol content evertime, Bud Light for me. Then we'll meet up with SRice out in no wake zone area of Lake Havasu and he can monitor the test. We'll be sure to make all kinds of wake while there and do some fly by's on any kayakers in the area.. wouldn't it be cool if we could use one of his patrol boats To top it all off we should have someone hiding in the reeds taking spy photos to document the test:thumbsup

 

[t&y]

Unfortunately my wife doesn't approve of it and doesn't want it around the kids. Once I quit she pretty much said thats it. So now it's basically vacations if that. Maybe once it's legal and not looked down upon but as far as I'm concerned that ship has sailed

Better for you entire family Vic:thumbsup

 

[BHC Vic]

Hmm lol.. So you think the test results would be the same if you match your high end Sativa strain vesus Inidica? The only two beers I drink at the river BudLight, or CoorLight. Given alcohol is a depresent the closer test would be a beer versus Indica. We'll go to a head shop and pick out some nice heavy THC content Indica for you and then roll over to Vons and pick up some well regulated, same alcohol content evertime, Bud Light for me. Then we'll meet up with SRice out in no wake zone area of Lake Havasu and he can monitor the test. We'll be sure to make all kinds of wake while there and do some fly by's on any kayakers in the area.. wouldn't it be cool if we could use one of his patrol boats To top it all off we should have someone hiding in the reeds taking spy photos to document the test:thumbsup

I'm serious if you are. You can pick whatever weed you like [emoji4]

 

[BHC Vic]

Better for you entire family Vic:thumbsup

I agree. I just don't think weed is the devil and think there are actually even benefits

 

[t&y]

I'm serious if you are. You can pick whatever weed you like [emoji4]

Well then it looks like all we need is SRice with his patrol boat and someone else who likes taking pictures of boats:thumbsup

 

[t&y]

I agree. I just don't think weed is the devil and think there are actually even benefits

There are benefits to Alcohol too Vic. Everything is about moderation.

 

[BHC Vic]

There are benefits to Alcohol too Vic. Everything is about moderation.

Beer? What would they be?

 

[t&y]

Beer? What would they be?

Alcohol in general has a variety of benefits anywhere from increased Libido to prevention of Heart Desease. Beer is great for recovery after a good work out. No bull shit:thumbsup Of course the moderation thing comes back into play and I'd advise anybody using to alcohol to benefit health read up on the subject matter, just like I would for weed.

 

[BHC Vic]

Alcohol in general has a variety of benefits anywhere from increased Libido to prevention of Heart Desease. Beer is great for recovery after a good work out. No bull shit:thumbsup Of course the moderation thing comes back into play and I'd advise anybody using to alcohol to benefit health read up on the subject matter, just like I would for weed.

I'll look into it as I've never heard that. Heard of whiskey dick though. Lots of guys I work with take liquid cialis to battle that [emoji4]

 

[BHC Vic]

All I'm saying is u can't get weed poisoning like u can alcohol. You can only get so high. One joint six joints doesn't really matter. Alcohol who knows. I've been a .34 but I'm sure it varies w others [emoji4]

 

[Ziggy]

I've never been so high I couldn't get the key in the ignition or so high I forgot how I got home [emoji4]

Or forget where you took your prop for repairs.

 

[t&y]

I'll look into it as I've never heard that. Heard of whiskey dick though. Lots of guys I work with take liquid cialis to battle that [emoji4]

Lol... Yup, same with cocaine, just ask Charlie. A Lot of long distance runners will drink a few heavy beers the night before a run and one right after. I thought it was just an excuse to have a beer garden at the end of marathons...

 

[Wicky]

You can only get so high. One joint six joints doesn't really matter. Alcohol who knows. I've been a .34 but I'm sure it varies w others [emoji4]

This is incorrect. Edibles and refinement has changed this.

 

[t&y]

So, there are FDA regulations for pharmaceuticals being GMP and also GRAS. I have taken several courses and spent quite a bit of time between my last business and current business taking regulatory, mandated classes to do business according to FDA regulations.
Interesting that the govt sponsored companies that qualify people for the pharm and food industry are now offering this class for weed. I received this email below today.
The fact that weed is going to be traded on wall street changes everything. As far as a beer not affecting someone next to you, I know some alcoholics that would disagree as this is a trigger to start drinking again. Also, edibles will not blow smoke so, there is that aspect as well. Here is the email I just received. Now, can we please talk about kratom lol. The single most revolutionary herb on the planet and the DEA is putting a temporary ban on it based on false information. I took it instead of Advil or any other pain killer whether that be prescription or OTC and it has had amazing properties to keep people who are addicted to Opiates and even alcohol, clean. SAD....more govt is not the answer.

Wicky has just been added to the test. You need to get all spun up on Kratom first though. We might need a bigger boat.

 

[BHC Vic]

This is incorrect. Edibles and refinement has changed this.

I'm still going to disagree. Worst thing going to happen if I take too many dabs is ill fall asleep. Towards the end of my smoking that all that would really get me high anymore

 

[Wicky]

Wicky has just been added to the test. You need to get all spun up on Kratom first though. We might need a bigger boat.

Yes, and at the rate we are going, coffee too. Granted, no spinning with kratom. Only pain relief to increase my golf score. No convolution.

 

[t&y]

This is incorrect. Edibles and refinement has changed this.

True. Overdose on Marijuana is a reality.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This is incorrect. Edibles and refinement has changed this.

So what you are saying is that Vic has not been smoking the top shelf shit????

 

[t&y]

Yes, and at the rate we are going, coffee too. Granted, no spinning with kratom. Only pain relief to increase my golf score.

Well apparently since the law reads something along the lines of "any level of impairment" don't forget the average tylenol user too. Those hypes are out of control after a couple pills

 

[Ziggy]

Well then it looks like all we need is SRice with his patrol boat and someone else who likes taking pictures of boats:thumbsup

LOL, for Vics sake, maybe we should enlist a San Bernardino LE instead of a Federal agent