Digging a hole in the back yard

[BUDMAN]

I call dibs for a swim m

 

[mbrown2]

Amazing view....good luck with the build!

 

[shintoooo]

You should have panned that dirt for gold.

 

[DaytonaBabe]

Was just thinking about you guys the other day, Zig. Wondered how the hole in your yard was doing! Cool to see the pics

 

[240Hallett]

Not really deep (5' deepest) but the keyway they engineered is another 18-24" deeper than the bottom. Lots of rebar.

Can you explain the "keyway" part.

 

[Bobby V]

Can you explain the "keyway" part.

:thumbsup

http://www.engineeringcivil.com/in-...etimes-adopted-in-longitudinal-joint-why.html

 

[Ziggy]

You should have panned that dirt for gold.

It all looks like tailings. ...lol[emoji4]

 

[Ziggy]

:thumbsup

http://www.engineeringcivil.com/in-...etimes-adopted-in-longitudinal-joint-why.html

Can you explain the "keyway" part.

See above. In mechanical terms think of the keyway on a crankshaft and pulley. It keys the pools concrete into the ground.

 

[TOBTEK]

I'm making it extra deep[emoji14] ....see if you can tread water and pee at the same time...lol

SOOOOOOO, for Outcoled to tread water would only need to be about 4 feet deep.

 

[Ziggy]

SOOOOOOO, for Outcoled to tread water would only need to be about 4 feet deep.

Lol, that's why 5 feet is extra deep. Got to hide my anchors before he comes over[emoji15] [emoji4] [emoji1]

 

[TOBTEK]

Ya need to be able to have the new boat in the pool for parties..... Ala Eliminator style.

 

[OutCole'd]

Lol, that's why 5 feet is extra deep. Got to hide my anchors before he comes over[emoji15] [emoji4] [emoji1]

No anchors Zig, they scare me.:thumbsdown

 

[Advantage 1]

Very cool, Zig 👍🍺

 

[Melloyellovector]

See above. In mechanical terms think of the keyway on a crankshaft and pulley. It keys the pools concrete into the ground.

Actually the keyway is because of your slope. Distance to daylight from the pool floor needs to be 10ft, from floors outter most edge slope side, going straight out needs to measure 10ft to daylight. The key is added to make that distance the 10ft you need to make pool stabile near hillside. Needed so as hillside shortens or any movement etc the pool structure will not move from its current location ( due to hillside failure )

Not that your wrong zig!
but the link for engineering ( posted by other ) has nothing to do with the type of key you have
Pools looking good!!

 

[Ziggy]

Actually the keyway is because of your slope. Distance to daylight from the pool floor needs to be 10ft, from floors outter most edge slope side, going straight out needs to measure 10ft to daylight. The key is added to make that distance the 10ft you need to make pool stabile near hillside. Needed so as hillside shortens or any movement etc the pool structure will not move from its current location ( due to hillside failure )

Not that your wrong zig!
but the link for engineering ( posted by other ) has nothing to do with the type of key you have
Pools looking good!!

Take a look back a few posts and you'll see I mention the daylight factor, which I'm very aware of. I was trying to simplify an answer. Not only does the key lower the footing it also reduces the chance of lateral movement.
Another big factor I've had to deal with is my neighbors 8 foot retainer below me.[emoji35]

 

[throttle]

Sweet Zig!!!

 

[That Guy]

Looks good....I'll have to bring Mrs. That Guy over for a swim this summer....:thumbsup:skull

 

[Ziggy]

Ya need to be able to have the new boat in the pool for parties..... Anti- Eliminator style.

Fixed it for me[emoji4]

 

[Music to my Ears]

Really looks great Ziggy. Hope to see it some day!!

 

[Melloyellovector]

Take a look back a few posts and you'll see I mention the daylight factor, which I'm very aware of. I was trying to simplify an answer. Not only does the key lower the footing it also reduces the chance of lateral movement.
Another big factor I've had to deal with is my neighbors 8 foot retainer below me.[emoji35]

Ha, that's why I pointed out you were not wrong, you were correct. It wasn't directed at you.
It was the engineering link, referencing a key in a slab for joining structures posted by others

Not a cheap build, but hey could be worse.
I've got one waiting to start in hills of Burbank ( or cliff of Burbank )
15 caissons 30ft deep and grade beams to build a tiny 12x24 infinity pool overhanging a hillside/cliff
( Google executive problems )

 

[Ziggy]

Ha, that's why I pointed out you were not wrong, you were correct. It wasn't directed at you.
It was the engineering link, referencing a key in a slab for joining structures posted by others

Not a cheap build, but hey could be worse.
I've got one waiting to start in hills of Burbank ( or cliff of Burbank )
15 caissons 30ft deep and grade beams to build a tiny 12x24 infinity pool overhanging a hillside/cliff
( Google executive problems )

Yeah, the link kinda reminded me of a wafer chip a furniture builder would use....but the basic concept is still the same.
My pool I could dig away all the dirt, fab some giant clawfeet and call it a big bathtub.[emoji3]
Sounds like you have quite the project ahead of you.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

Ha, that's why I pointed out you were not wrong, you were correct. It wasn't directed at you.
It was the engineering link, referencing a key in a slab for joining structures posted by others

Not a cheap build, but hey could be worse.
I've got one waiting to start in hills of Burbank ( or cliff of Burbank )
15 caissons 30ft deep and grade beams to build a tiny 12x24 infinity pool overhanging a hillside/cliff
( Google executive problems )

You should post up some pics of your crazy projects like that and the high end stuff.

Maybe their should be a pool section since there's so many being built right now.

You won't have to worry about being mocked an expert since you actually are.

 

[Melloyellovector]

You should post up some pics of your crazy projects like that and the high end stuff.

Maybe their should be a pool section since there's so many being built right now.

You won't have to worry about being mocked an expert since you actually are.

Couple things don't wanna thread jack ziggys build. Second your just asking for grads to come back at ya
Iv posted a decent amount of pics in, post your pool pics thread a while back. Some of the crazy high end stuff is for actors, boxers, mma guys, tv and big business executives. Many of them are crazy about privacy and want no pics of anything, a lot actually will clear the property before they'll even enter house. Iv actually had security come and ask to see pics Iv taken and been asked to delete stuff.
This one in Burbank has literally been 2 years of engineering and pissing match w city. Build costs will be teetering on 300k for a pretty small pool, that once it's built will look nice as a vanishing edge pool w a view. But other than that the average person would say looks nice but wouldn't believe what it takes to make something like that happen, a single picture unless it was entire build process could never do it true justice

 

[Ziggy]

Shotcrete done today....yeah[emoji1]
Over 30 yards used on this 80' perimeter pool.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[DaytonaBabe]

Looks awesome, Zig! Loving the step design. That is really cool.

 

[Bobby V]

Actually the keyway is because of your slope. Distance to daylight from the pool floor needs to be 10ft, from floors outter most edge slope side, going straight out needs to measure 10ft to daylight. The key is added to make that distance the 10ft you need to make pool stabile near hillside. Needed so as hillside shortens or any movement etc the pool structure will not move from its current location ( due to hillside failure )

Not that your wrong zig!
but the link for engineering ( posted by other ) has nothing to do with the type of key you have
Pools looking good!!

Ha, that's why I pointed out you were not wrong, you were correct. It wasn't directed at you.
It was the engineering link, referencing a key in a slab for joining structures posted by others

Not a cheap build, but hey could be worse.
I've got one waiting to start in hills of Burbank ( or cliff of Burbank )
15 caissons 30ft deep and grade beams to build a tiny 12x24 infinity pool overhanging a hillside/cliff
( Google executive problems )

Yeah, the link kinda reminded me of a wafer chip a furniture builder would use....but the basic concept is still the same.
My pool I could dig away all the dirt, fab some giant clawfeet and call it a big bathtub.[emoji3]
Sounds like you have quite the project ahead of you.

The link I posted was just for info only when the guy asked what a key way is. I never said it was for Ziggys pool. Key ways are used in all kinds of concrete re-inforcing. I used a key way on my retainer wall in Havasu.

Pool and view looks great Ziggy. :thumbsup

 

[DaytonaBabe]

By the way... you should reassess the height of those stripper poles in the bottom. Methinks they are a bit too short. :skull:

 

[Ziggy]

By the way... you should reassess the height of those stripper poles in the bottom. Methinks they are a bit too short. :skull:

Lmao...those are the sleeves for the poles. Set up for dualing strippers.[emoji4]

 

[YoPengo]

Looks fantastic Ziggy. :thumbsup

 

[VoodooMedMan]

Very nice. Is there a table or something for those stools or are they close to the edge to be like a bar or something?

 

[Mrs.Racer277]

Step One[emoji4]

Supposed to be dug and plumbed in about a week. [emoji4]

Amazing view

 

[Ziggy]

Very nice. Is there a table or something for those stools or are they close to the edge to be like a bar or something?

Meant to be bar like to sit and look towards lake.

 

[Ziggy]

Amazing view

Hope you guys come check it out sometime.

 

[HavasuHank]

Awesome progress Zig. [emoji106] [emoji106]

 

[VoodooMedMan]

Meant to be bar like to sit and look towards lake.

Very nice. [emoji106]

 

[plaster dave]

I really like this pool. It's looking good. [emoji1303]

 

[Melloyellovector]

The link I posted was just for info only when the guy asked what a key way is. I never said it was for Ziggys pool. Key ways are used in all kinds of concrete re-inforcing. I used a key way on my retainer wall in Havasu.

Pool and view looks great Ziggy. :thumbsup

A shear key is for lateral movement of a wall or floor. Or for cold joints joining slabs and or structures.
A footing key is not the same thing. The only similarity is lateral movement
Look at your ref versus a true detail of what is done, this is also similar to what goes in retaining wall footings also. Just sayin, stop crying

 

[Melloyellovector]

Pool does look great!!!
I'm surprised w the rock quarry backyard, key, baja, and barstools that you only used 30 yards
Sandcastle got lucky w that one for sure :thumbsup

 

[Bobby V]

A shear key is for lateral movement of a wall or floor. Or for cold joints joining slabs and or structures.
A footing key is not the same thing. The only similarity is lateral movement
Look at your ref versus a true detail of what is done, this is also similar to what goes in retaining wall footings also. Just sayin, stop crying
View attachment 470863

Crying you keep bringing it up. I googled key way and it was the first thing that popped up. The guy that asked the question never would have know.

 

[Mr.Puck]

Gonna be a Desert Oasis !

Looking good Ziggy !

 

[Ziggy]

Pool does look great!!!
I'm surprised w the rock quarry backyard, key, baja, and barstools that you only used 30 yards
Sandcastle got lucky w that one for sure :thumbsup

Thanks, it's fun to watch it all go down too. You always think you know a lot but I've learned some new stuff on this project.....lol, and the ones leading to this.[emoji1] [emoji106]
The diagram you posted depicts my situation quite accurately.
I overheard the guys say little over 35 as they cleaned up. The baja is not 100% shot....however I had them remove most of the 3rd step/shelf off the baja face and just leave the 36" wide step. What they sliced off there was used in floor. Took about a foot of the shelf down next to the stools too.....so I saved them some material albeit I'm sure the excess cost them too.

 

[River Lynchmob]

Nice looking pool...cant wait to see the finished product! :thumbsup

 

[Tamalewagon]

Pool is looking great Zigmund. :thumbsup

 

[Ziggy]

Pool is looking great Zigmund. :thumbsup

Thanks in part to you[emoji4] [emoji106]

 

[DaytonaBabe]

Thanks in part to you[emoji4] [emoji106]

Tease... I thought we were going to get to see an updated picture or ten!

 

[Ziggy]

Tease... I thought we were going to get to see an updated picture or ten!

Right now I got no paperclip to click on or I would[emoji4] .
Random threads do not work for me for some Fing reason.[emoji107]

 

[DaytonaBabe]

Right now I got no paperclip to click on or I would[emoji4] .
Random threads do not work for me for some Fing reason.[emoji107]

Text them to me and I'll post them

 

[Ziggy]

Text them to me and I'll post them

Rokay[emoji4]

 

[throttle]

Nice!!!