Dead Body mob style?

[was thatguy]

Judging by how corroded that barrel is, whoever killed him is probably dead by now.


What kinda shitty barrel would corrode that fast? I thought those things were 50 years in salt water?

That drum (it isn’t a barrel) is actually kind of strange looking?
The rib count is wrong for most modern 65-85 Gallon overpacks? Or rather the spacing is wrong.
But it is an overpack for sure.
I’ve only ever used 55 gal and (mostly) 85 gal overpacks. But that one seems like it’s bigger and has an extra spaced rib, at least in the picture.

85’s have 3 ribs usually, but the spacing is not quite right?

 

[monkeyswrench]

That drum (it isn’t a barrel) is actually kind of strange looking?
The rib count is wrong for most modern 65-85 Gallon overpacks?
But it is an overpack for sure.
I’ve only ever used 55 gal and (mostly) 85 gal overpacks. But that one seems like it’s bigger and has an extra rib, at least in the picture.

Does the mob have a "big and tall" section for dump supplies? Seems a bit more classy than the cartels "cut to fit" methods.

 

[was thatguy]

Does the mob have a "big and tall" section for dump supplies? Seems a bit more classy than the cartels "cut to fit" methods.

Seems like it.
I thought the mob cut them up as well though.

 

[Runs2rch]

Does the mob have a "big and tall" section for dump supplies? Seems a bit more classy than the cartels "cut to fit" methods.

Probably broke the legs to get them to talk. Then stuffed them in.

 

[Waterjunky]

Not knowing the area, could the barrel have been loaded on shore and just rolled into the water down the grade?

 

[Runs2rch]

Not knowing the area, could the barrel have been loaded on shore and just rolled into the water down the grade?

That is what I think happened.

 

[was thatguy]

They are head down in that overpack.

 

[RiverDave]

That drum (it isn’t a barrel) is actually kind of strange looking?
The rib count is wrong for most modern 65-85 Gallon overpacks? Or rather the spacing is wrong.
But it is an overpack for sure.
I’ve only ever used 55 gal and (mostly) 85 gal overpacks. But that one seems like it’s bigger and has an extra spaced rib, at least in the picture.

85’s have 3 ribs usually, but the spacing is not quite right?

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Look at the pic again, you can kinda see the third rib. You can also see the hole on the top, so you are right they went in head first.

I’m wondering if they packed him in with some kinda chemicals that eroded the barrel.

 

[Runs2rch]

Look at the pic again, you can kinda see the third rib. You can also see the hole on the top, so you are right they went in head first.

I’m wondering if they packed him in with some kinda chemicals that eroded the barrel.

Possibly lye, but the clothes and bones look mostly intact.

 

[PaPaG]

Having lived in Vegas for over 20 years the number of bodies found in the desert or OTHER areas from folklore "the olden days" or even current days would actually surprise you...it still continues today.

 

[Go-Fly]

Judging by how corroded that barrel is, whoever killed him is probably dead by now.


What kinda shitty barrel would corrode that fast? I thought those things were 50 years in salt water?

No, 50 is how many post you need before you can PM a member.

Steel and water dont mix. As a body decomposes in water it out gasses oxygen and a few other chemicals. Metal corrodes at an accelerated with oxygen and water touching it. Be interesting to see what they date it. My money is on 20-25 years.

 

[MPHSystems]

Someone on the Lake Mead boaters FB page just posted pics of this that they found

that’ll teach him to leave his cart in the lot…

 

[Ladsm]

Probably had information on the Clintons!!!

 

[was thatguy]

Look at the pic again, you can kinda see the third rib. You can also see the hole on the top, so you are right they went in head first.

I’m wondering if they packed him in with some kinda chemicals that eroded the barrel.

Maybe.
The corrosion is all on one side from what we can see. So it’s likely from being partially settled in the muck over the years.

In my years cleaning up drum burial sites for the DoD we would dig up literally thousands of drums that were buried all over the pacific theater. The ground itself seemed to “rot” the drums more than the contents. Many would look just like that drum. (Minus the body)
Some would look like new, and would still have fuel or solvents or whatever the original contents was. These were all WWII era forward sites, and post war disposal sites.

 

[Bigbore500r]

What kind of boat would you need, to roll a 55gal barrel off the back of it?

Have you seen @rivermobster toon?

 

[Go-Fly]

Have you seen @rivermobster toon?

Noted.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Seems like it.
I thought the mob cut them up as well though.

I seem to recall something I read, either in English or russian...can't recall if it was KGB or CIA, but it was what bones to break to fold a body into a suit case or other small container. Less blood stains to clean/evidence left if you keep the body whole...

 

[MPHSystems]

 

[LazyLavey]

Honest Ma... I hit a deer

 

[Riverryder]

That is what I think happened.

no way. how far out that was had to be dropped by boat.

 

[Blackmagic94]

I bet that is from the late 80s early 90s.

 

[Ducksquasher]

RIP...God Bless!

 

[Ducksquasher]

Funny you say that. I know that area very well as I grew up out there. The mob had a hunting club out there since the 50's. I guarantee you are right.

Oh hell...all the years I hunted out there I had no idea?

 

[702sandman]

The water is so low right now I bet it’s a couple thousand feet from the high water line of the 80’s , this was for sure not from shore

 

[Wicky]

 

[was thatguy]

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[was thatguy]

 

[TimeBandit]

The water is so low right now I bet it’s a couple thousand feet from the high water line of the 80’s , this was for sure not from shore

From what I can find Mead is down 166 feet from it's all time high of 1225, now at 1059.

86'd is the term I always heard for mob burials, 8 miles out, 6 feet under.

 

[Lavey5150]

Look at the pic again, you can kinda see the third rib. You can also see the hole on the top, so you are right they went in head first.

I’m wondering if they packed him in with some kinda chemicals that eroded the barrel.

I just finished Breaking Bad, so I learned me this -hydrofluoric acid (HF) will not erode plastic, but will erode metal, bones and bodies.

 

[was thatguy]

From what I can find Mead is down 166 feet from it's all time high of 1225, now at 1059.

86'd is the term I always heard for mob burials, 8 miles out, 6 feet under.

What’s that do for the shoreline water mark?
100’ of depth has to be much more than 100’ of receded shoreline?
I know at Shasta it is.

 

[Racey]

You would think they would have gone dead center in the middle of the lake... I know the water had dropped significantly over the years. but that seems pretty close to the shoreline even for back in the day if it is exposed now.

When the lake was full it would have been quite a way out to there. Like probably a couple miles.

I'd guess the spot worked pretty well cause whoever did it is probably long dead already.

 

[Danger Dave]

Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery.

 

[Done-it-again]

I'll be the first.... Jimmy Hoffa!!!!!!

 

[TimeBandit]

What’s that do for the shoreline water mark?
100’ of depth has to be much more than 100’ of receded shoreline?
I know at Shasta it is.

I guess it depends on the geography of the area, the flat land shoreline recedes a lot more than the hills/canyons do.

I read the water depth is taken at the dam.

 

[was thatguy]

I'll be the first.... Jimmy Hoffa!!!!!!

Lol
I watched a special a while back about Hoffa.
There’s no doubt he got killed when he was called to the meeting.
Where the body is will never be known for sure, because of the several actual possibilities every single person swears to god they saw it and know exactly where he was disposed of…and all are completely different stories.
So…who to believe?
At least 2 locations are cemented foundations, one is a now defunct incinerator owned by a friend of the mob, another is a waste disposal site (possibly the most believable) and of course the popular urban legends like giant stadium.
So when different people swear on the Bible to different things it’ll never be known for sure.

 

[Riverbottom]

They found one bound in a ditched car by the Bluewater Casino last week. Been in the water about a year they think. On the reservation, so not much coverage on it.

 

[cofooter]

They found one bound in a ditched car by the Bluewater Casino last week. Been in the water about a year they think. On the reservation, so not much coverage on it.

Bound or burned, I heard burned. Amazing it took a year to find, lady in a kayak spotted it 3ft below the surface

 

[riverroyal]

my guess is only a few years old. The deposit holder was eliminated.

 

[Rayson1971]

Check to see if there money in the pockets. Whatever years on the money. There you go.

 

[Heylam]

He’d have survived that if he’d have had some MRE's to eat.

 

[pkrrvr619]

Bound or burned, I heard burned. Amazing it took a year to find, lady in a kayak spotted it 3ft below the surface

Wasn't this the same guy that was wanted for murder and was on the run for like a year? If so i saw his wanted picture at road runner on the bar.

Pulled a black SUV out of the water, not sure where but maybe he offed himself? Anyone have more info?

 

[throttle]

ex boat builder... or elvis?

 

[The Prisoner]

I'll be the first.... Jimmy Hoffa!!!!!!

See post #6

 

[The Prisoner]

For the musically inclined murderer. Designer barrels.

 

[The Prisoner]

Updated story

Body found in barrel in Lake Mead may date back to 1980s, more likely to appear as water recedes

The body found in a barrel at Lake Mead on Sunday may have been underwater for as long as four decades and more bodies are likely to appear as the lake recedes due to severe drought, Las Vegas poli…

www.8newsnow.com

 

[Riley1]

I'll be the first.... Jimmy Hoffa!!!!!!

What everyone said at the ramp yesterday

 

[RiverDave]

I read an article that said the guy had his wallet on him and was identified as “Bob Burr.” Who that is I don’t know.

 

[jetboatperformance]

I think the barrel was illegally launched without a QUAGGA MUSCLE inspection

 

[BoatCop]

Bound or burned, I heard burned. Amazing it took a year to find, lady in a kayak spotted it 3ft below the surface

Wasn't this the same guy that was wanted for murder and was on the run for like a year? If so i saw his wanted picture at road runner on the bar.

Pulled a black SUV out of the water, not sure where but maybe he offed himself? Anyone have more info?

They found one bound in a ditched car by the Bluewater Casino last week. Been in the water about a year they think. On the reservation, so not much coverage on it.

The car belonged to the suspect in a Lakeside homicide that occurred last year (June, 2021). Not burned or bound, as far as I know. And while the car may have been found on the Res, the Sheriff's Office has responsibility and jurisdiction, as it's tied to their case. No identification on the body as of yet. It'll probably be a while for them to get autopsy, dental records or DNA identification.

 

[HBCraig]

Lol
I watched a special a while back about Hoffa.
There’s no doubt he got killed when he was called to the meeting.
Where the body is will never be known for sure, because of the several actual possibilities every single person swears to god they saw it and know exactly where he was disposed of…and all are completely different stories.
So…who to believe?
At least 2 locations are cemented foundations, one is a now defunct incinerator owned by a friend of the mob, another is a waste disposal site (possibly the most believable) and of course the popular urban legends like giant stadium.
So when different people swear on the Bible to different things it’ll never be known for sure.

There's also a massive foundation at Stewart's Point.