4 seat speed UTV

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

He needs to race @Wmc
I think his hood is intact...

 

[702sandman]

100 mph with a turbo ? my pro R does that easy and no turbo lol oh and I have not lost my hood yet for the record

 

[DILLIGAF]

100 mph with a turbo ? my pro R does that easy and no turbo lol oh and I have not lost my hood yet for the record

Are those normal speeds now with UTVs? Holy shit.....

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Does the speed key let you drive it somewhere other than a airport runway?

 

[HTTP404]

Speed UTV’s for sale now. Master #35 will be in first run batch. Get it now before it’s gone.

Spam much?

 

[Bpracing1127]

Are those normal speeds now with UTVs? Holy shit.....

Yes, new pro R does 100. Almost all race UTV can do a 100+

 

[DLC]

My 2018 can am does 95 on 35’s accord to Mr Lowrance, it’s easy on a flat graded road or the highway 95

 

[DLC]

Speed car will be governed at 85 for general public, from what I heard.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Does the speed key let you drive it somewhere other than a airport runway?

Yes, but more stuff falls off.

 

[Orange Juice]

Yes, new pro R does 100. Almost all race UTV can do a 100+

This one does 180mph, and has paddle shifters. It’s using the Ford 3.5L twin turbo.

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[LargeOrangeFont]

Robby Gordon on Instagram: "🤦‍♂️ I guess the hoods come off at 102🤔😵"

1,363 likes, 35 comments - robbygordon on March 17, 2022: "🤦‍♂️ I guess the hoods come off at 102🤔😵".

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I recall you saying something about the car being outdated when it comes out

I was watching a video the other day of RJ in his play Pro R out at Barstow and he was a able to get it up to 90 in a rough section. I can’t wait for a head to head of these next gen cars.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This one does 180mph, and has paddle shifters. It’s using the Ford 3.5L twin turbo.

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For that price I’d rather have a Trophy Truck if we are getting that stupid

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Hood flew off. Sounds amazing

At 100 that is a ton of air under that front end that just runs into the front firewall.

I guess I’ll be venting my hood

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Speed car will be governed at 85 for general public, from what I heard.

Yes and the Speed key removes the governor, even if not running e85

 

[Boatymcboatface]

At 100 that is a ton of air under that front end that just runs into the front firewall.

I guess I’ll be venting my hood

You won’t have to they just announced production is being bumped 90 days to address the hood falling off! They stated they wanted the LOF edition to be perfect. I’m mean speed car.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yes, new pro R does 100. Almost all race UTV can do a 100+

Remember 20 pages back when the turds said that was impossible

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You won’t have to they just announced production is being bumped 90 days to address the hood falling off! They stated they wanted the LOF edition to be perfect. I’m mean speed car.

Yep.. raise the price and make it even better.. I’m down.

Can’t be worse than my RZR lol.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Remember 20 pages back when the turds said that was impossible

Sure do!

 

[DILLIGAF]

I had no idea these things were running that fast. Death wish if you ask me.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I had no idea these things were running that fast. Death wish if you ask me.

Color me unsurprised.

 

[702sandman]

I had no idea these things were running that fast. Death wish if you ask me.

It is scary fast now in desert racing. I have gone tumbling at 85 and it’s not fun….in my last car it topped out at 102 ….my current pro Xp was running 95-97 last weekend in the mint with more to give but didn’t want to explode a belt.

 

[1Carl]

100 mph with a turbo ? my pro R does that easy and no turbo lol oh and I have not lost my hood yet for the record

That’s on pump 91 octane fuel, not using speed key and E85

 

[outboard_256]

That’s on pump 91 octane fuel, not using speed key and E85

I thought its governed to 85 mph without the speed key. So this isn't what the production ones are going to be like.

 

[Wizard29]

That Polaris platform is abysmal to work on. I just had mine apart. The problem with Polaris (and Textron and all the others) is the bean counters. The designers generally develop a pretty good car. Then the bean counters go in figure out where they can cut costs.

The Speed car appears to be much easier to work on, you can have the entire engine and trans out in an hour or so. and the new Polaris cars are very easy to work on. The entire bed comes off in a couple minutes.

It was awful to work on. Things were just perfectly in the wrong place.

Hopefully the Speed car is easier to work on. That seems like it would be a huge improvement right there.

I wonder about the parts strength/longevity though. It's been said here many times that Speed is delivering a better car for less money. Looking at that from a manufacturing and supply chain perspective I have to ask how?

For example, the transmission. Is Speed using the good bearings? Timken or equivalent or is it cheap Chinese stuff? If it's cheap Chinese stuff, we might look forward to hearing about more retaining clips in the trans oil and busted cases when things really go south.

If Speed is using the good stuff, how is the price being kept down? We all know what the cost differences are between high quality parts and Chinese crap. And Speed being much smaller than Polaris, they wouldn't see the quantity price breaks that Polaris would just because of their sheer volume, so that puts Speed in a more costly production position.

Is Speed just accepting less margin per car? Could be. I just thought this was an interesting way to look at things and try to identify what the cars will actually be made of.

I hope you guys don't end up with all plastic BOVs and stuff. Blew me away when I saw that.

 

[kat_williams]

I thought its governed to 85 mph without the speed key. So this isn't what the production ones are going to be like.

Yep, Robby confirmed it in the comments. Stock ones will be limited to 86 mph. What you see in the video is one of the pre-production ones, its not the same as what will come off the assembly line. They are still testing various things and making changes. Obviously they are going to go back and modify hood mounts now.

 

[riverroyal]

So it will do 102 but governed at 87?

Another amazing marketing move 'robby'

Why post a video of it doing 102 and a hood flying off? Why

 

[riverroyal]

I recall you saying something about the car being outdated when it comes out

I was watching a video the other day of RJ in his play Pro R out at Barstow and he was a able to get it up to 90 in a rough section. I can’t wait for a head to head of these next gen cars.

Its not out

 

[RiverDave]

I cant wait...
What i was saying was the guys on shark tank would have not been confident with the pitch.
My personal feeling is by the time unit number 5000 gets delivered the hype is gone. The remaining buyers will drop off and the excitement will slow.
Or....if this thing is truly that bad ass and is proven and the hype picks up momentum and the competition is not equal then speed will do good. Time will tell.
But my personal opinion is sell the car when you get it.
But i not in this industry and my day job is secure.

Also, speed needs to constantly evolve, the competition will pass them in 2 years from today.

How do you figure the last statement?

 

[riverroyal]

If speed sticks with this design in full, and they have 15000 orders, it will take 2 years to get number 15000 done.
If they start coming up with the next ‘best thing’ in 2 years from now it will be another few years until it’s ready to be released. That’s 4 ish years

In 4 ish years the other guys will be equal or better. Assuming this 1st car smokes the rest .

The speed company is focused on today. Which they should. But once that assembly line gets rolling they need to think long term. Which is future models.
They may have this planned already.

 

[Yldboyz]

102 just seems too fast in one of those, and I mean for the the everyday guys not the racers.

 

[riverroyal]

Also I’m aware a few think I’m just some negative speed guy.
I’m not. It’s America what they are doing is fantastic
I do think ‘Robby’ needs to step away from social media on the business side. He is a love hate personality. That cuts your market in half.

Also, I do have a TON of experience in bringing PWCs to market and their evolution. This was years ago but it still applies. The SxS world is exactly the same as the PWC world was in the late 90s. It’s on the same path.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Looks like Robbie and team are prepping for the Speed UTV Debut!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

If speed sticks with this design in full, and they have 15000 orders, it will take 2 years to get number 15000 done.
If they start coming up with the next ‘best thing’ in 2 years from now it will be another few years until it’s ready to be released. That’s 4 ish years

In 4 ish years the other guys will be equal or better. Assuming this 1st car smokes the rest .

The speed company is focused on today. Which they should. But once that assembly line gets rolling they need to think long term. Which is future models.
They may have this planned already.

I’d love to hear where you got the information that they will do no running changes to the current set of orders.. especially at the model year break, and have no changes planned year over year.

If you watched the releases, you would know that what you are claiming is the complete opposite of what they are claiming they will do.

Yore Can Am is a 5+ year old design.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It was awful to work on. Things were just perfectly in the wrong place.

Hopefully the Speed car is easier to work on. That seems like it would be a huge improvement right there.

I wonder about the parts strength/longevity though. It's been said here many times that Speed is delivering a better car for less money. Looking at that from a manufacturing and supply chain perspective I have to ask how?

For example, the transmission. Is Speed using the good bearings? Timken or equivalent or is it cheap Chinese stuff? If it's cheap Chinese stuff, we might look forward to hearing about more retaining clips in the trans oil and busted cases when things really go south.

If Speed is using the good stuff, how is the price being kept down? We all know what the cost differences are between high quality parts and Chinese crap. And Speed being much smaller than Polaris, they wouldn't see the quantity price breaks that Polaris would just because of their sheer volume, so that puts Speed in a more costly production position.

Is Speed just accepting less margin per car? Could be. I just thought this was an interesting way to look at things and try to identify what the cars will actually be made of.

I hope you guys don't end up with all plastic BOVs and stuff. Blew me away when I saw that.

Those are all good questions. We will have to find out honestly.

I figure one of 2 things.. they either overspent on the “little stuff” and will dial it back over time as they learn more, or they cheaped out up front.

This is just a guess, but looking at all the custom hardware, fittings, etc. I think they are on the side of caution and starting with a bit higher spec parts.

But honestly you have hit on THE unknown question with these cars.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yep, Robby confirmed it in the comments. Stock ones will be limited to 86 mph. What you see in the video is one of the pre-production ones, its not the same as what will come off the assembly line. They are still testing various things and making changes. Obviously they are going to go back and modify hood mounts now. View attachment 1097581

The regular key is speed limited. The Speed key is not limited. Pop in the speed key and run 100 if you want on any % of ethanol.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I thought its governed to 85 mph without the speed key. So this isn't what the production ones are going to be like.

Yes it is. See above.

 

[riverroyal]

I’d love to hear where you got the information that they will do no running changes to the current set of orders.. especially at the model year break, and have no changes planned.

If you watched the releases, you would know that what you are claiming is the complete opposite of what they are claiming they will do.

That’s great then I’m wrong. So number 1000 will be better than number 100? Number 10000 will look nothing like yours? Then wtf is everyone buying?
Model year 23 will not be model year 24. They can’t make them that fast.

With you logic yours will be outdated by speed in a year.
Speed outdated speed.
If el hefe changes then what happens to the value on the early cars?
A normal manufacture produces the product and will make changes on the next model year. Not as they ‘go’

Maybe I’m confused. It happens

You and Carl have the right idea… sell immediately

 

[kat_williams]

That’s on pump 91 octane fuel, not using speed key and E85

Yes it is. See above.

That is not what is being stated, see above. Which one is it, 102 mph with no speed key or 86 mph with no speed key? Because you guys are staying both. Robby himself already confirmed in the comments (that I screenshotted above) that stock ones will be limited to 86 (with speed key). Seems like you guys are just talking out of your ass.

 

[ZSTIV]

Does the speed key let you drive it somewhere other than a airport runway?

Wasn't even the speed key... It was on pump gas.

 

[Santee_Native]

When using the speed key on 91 octane it will remove governor. Put E85 in it now you will be at 300hp uncorked. Or dont use the speed key and you will be limited to 86mph.

Side not everyone thought 1carl was nuts asking 80K for his early order el jefe. LOL

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[RiverDave]

If speed sticks with this design in full, and they have 15000 orders, it will take 2 years to get number 15000 done.
If they start coming up with the next ‘best thing’ in 2 years from now it will be another few years until it’s ready to be released. That’s 4 ish years

In 4 ish years the other guys will be equal or better. Assuming this 1st car smokes the rest .

The speed company is focused on today. Which they should. But once that assembly line gets rolling they need to think long term. Which is future models.
They may have this planned already.

Your assuming things don’t continue to evolve?

By the guy that pioneered the industry.
By the guy that is largely responsible for all the existing technologies we have today..

What kinda logic is that?

 

[kat_williams]

When using the speed key on 91 octane it will remove governor. Put E85 in it now you will be at 300hp uncorked. Or dont use the speed key and you will be limited to 86mph.

Side not everyone thought 1carl was nuts asking 80K for his early order el jefe. LOL

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So your saying Robby Gordon is wrong? Someone asked him if it will do 102 stock and he said no, they will be limited to 86mph.

 

[Santee_Native]

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So your saying Robby Gordon is wrong? Someone asked him if it will do 102 stock and he said no, they will be limited to 86mph.

So your saying Robby Gordon is wrong? Someone asked him if it will do 102 stock and he said no, they will be limited to 86mph.

Really? The car will do over a 100mph with the speed key. With out the use of the speed key it will governed at 86mph. Re read my post it explains it pretty clearly.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

It was awful to work on. Things were just perfectly in the wrong place.

Hopefully the Speed car is easier to work on. That seems like it would be a huge improvement right there.

I wonder about the parts strength/longevity though. It's been said here many times that Speed is delivering a better car for less money. Looking at that from a manufacturing and supply chain perspective I have to ask how?

For example, the transmission. Is Speed using the good bearings? Timken or equivalent or is it cheap Chinese stuff? If it's cheap Chinese stuff, we might look forward to hearing about more retaining clips in the trans oil and busted cases when things really go south.

If Speed is using the good stuff, how is the price being kept down? We all know what the cost differences are between high quality parts and Chinese crap. And Speed being much smaller than Polaris, they wouldn't see the quantity price breaks that Polaris would just because of their sheer volume, so that puts Speed in a more costly production position.

Is Speed just accepting less margin per car? Could be. I just thought this was an interesting way to look at things and try to identify what the cars will actually be made of.

I hope you guys don't end up with all plastic BOVs and stuff. Blew me away when I saw that.

Don't know for sure what bearings the Speed will be using, but I do know that Robby was not happy with the cheap bearing substitute that Textron did on the XX so don't anticipate that happening again.

 

[riverroyal]

Your assuming things don’t continue to evolve?

By the guy that pioneered the industry.
By the guy that is largely responsible for all the existing technologies we have today..

What kinda logic is that?

Its not logic, more a question. LOF says these will evolve. So the 15000 pre ordered cars will evolve? Are you not concerned your car #500 (or what ever it is) will not be a 'evolved' as say car 5000? Or does evolve mean replacing broken items with better items?
Can Am, Polaris, Honda, Kawi, all release a 2022 model, they are all the same. They do have recalls to fix issues.
Speed will release a 2023 that will change throughout the year? If so, thats unique. As Ivan Stewarts break things or 'Robby' feels something is better is gets evolved? Where does that leave you in car 500? In the future the used car buyers will want the newest numbered car. Because the early units are outdated.
I suppose 'evolving' keeps the aftermarket guys dead in the water?

I agree he pioneered the industry, I guess I should thank him. Maybe find a free spot on his massive nuts to swing from.

Yes LOF, I know I know.....how is this any different than selling a 2019 Can am/Polaris to by a 2022. Its not, just a unique way to be a manufacture of a product.

 

[riverroyal]

example, The X3 in 2022 has a thicker wall tubing. This was for model year 2022, not during 2021.
Speed will make these changes at anytime? Model year wont really matter I guess, more the born on dates.

 

[kat_williams]

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Really? The car will do over a 100mph with the speed key. With out the use of the speed key it will governed at 86mph. Re read my post it explains it pretty clearly.

Don't you think Robby would have said that when asked? He could have said, yes it will do 102 with the speed key other wise its limited to 86. But instead he says no they will be limited to 86. Sorry if I am going to believe Robby over you.

 

[Santee_Native]

Don't you think Robby would have said that when asked? He could have said, yes it will do 102 with the speed key other wise its limited to 86. But instead he says no they will be limited to 86. Sorry if I am going to believe Robby over you.

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[riverroyal]

I have never held my X3 wide open. Been to 70 and ran out of talent. 100 or 87 is fucing nuts.
But Im also super high

 

[702sandman]

102 just seems too fast in one of those, and I mean for the the everyday guys not the racers.

It absolutely is for the first time buyer of a SXS …kinda scary