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Every major powersports dealer in the southwest is a dealer. Speed has their own headquarters/dealer, the Hastings building in Havasu.

You are high again tonight if you think dealers won't continue to order and sell these things. It is one more thing for them to sell and service. These dealer conglomerates didn't grow by saying no to people's money.

Im not high! Ha
I dont think there will be waiting list at car 15000. Thats over 2 years from today.
Yes it will sell on dealer floor.
And by then speed should be working on the next models which will be 2 years after that.
 

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Im not high! Ha
I dont think there will be waiting list at car 15000. Thats over 2 years from today.
Yes it will sell on dealer floor.
And by then speed should be working on the next models which will be 2 years after that.

I agree there won’t be a backlog at that point. They are just going to be standard sales on the dealer floor like there are now with other brands. t would just be steady state sales, just like everybody else. He’s not going to outsell Polaris or Can Am, at least not anytime soon.
 

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Yeah. If can am does nothing in 23 and these get proven with real life amateur ivan stewarts then im a potential buyer off the floor.
We did 75 miles Saturday and i cant imagine speed will be so much better on the chop that i make the switch unless its drastically better.
I didnt touch one thing except beer for 75 dusty miles
2600 miles on the x3. No failures. Knock on wood
 
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RG said April. It was said in the releases and there are screenshots from instagram in this thread a couple pages back. Its gonna happen or its not. They said they needed 3-4 months after they got the preproduction cars. That turned into what, 6 months, in a global pandemic with supply chain issues. Seems fair as no one else is doing anything any faster.

If it is delayed more it is delayed more. If Polaris can't get cars out why are you holding Speed to a different standard?
Keep digging your own online grave, bud. Appears they’re having quite a time with all the R&D, and as long as they have cheerleaders like you and Carl to foot the bill I’m sure it will continue.
 
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Yeah. If can am does nothing in 23 and these get proven with real life amateur ivan stewarts then im a potential buyer off the floor.
We did 75 miles Saturday and i cant imagine speed will be so much better on the chop that i make the switch unless its drastically better.
I didnt touch one thing except beer for 75 dusty miles
2600 miles on the x3. No failures. Knock on wood
75 miles where did you go to?
 

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Looks like there’s another high end desert toy coming to market. This one it Appears to be more comfortable. And top speed at 180mph $1.6 M

 
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Yeah. If can am does nothing in 23 and these get proven with real life amateur ivan stewarts then im a potential buyer off the floor.
We did 75 miles Saturday and i cant imagine speed will be so much better on the chop that i make the switch unless its drastically better.
I didnt touch one thing except beer for 75 dusty miles
2600 miles on the x3. No failures. Knock on wood

It will be notably better in the chop out of the box. The car was developed in that chop. The Pro R is also notably better out of the box. Anything without bump steer and less scrub is gonna ride and handle better. Both the Pro R and the Speed look to be next level in this area. Particularly the speed since it has no radius rods.

Now of you don’t push your car hard, many of these things you won’t notice anyway.

If I don’t have to spend $3k on springs and shock work, well you know the rest.
 
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Keep digging your own online grave, bud. Appears they’re having quite a time with all the R&D, and as long as they have cheerleaders like you and Carl to foot the bill I’m sure it will continue.

Quite what time? They are done with R&D for the first cars. They did it faster than Polaris did for their new car. I wouldn’t complain if they did another 6 months of testing and development personally. I’ve heard people saying he’s trying to make the car too good And it’s taking too long, and others say the car is obsolete and crappy because it took too long, which is it?

If you are so sure I’m digging my own grave let’s make it interesting.. new bets for production announcement, deliveries, what?
 
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Quite what time? They are done with R&D for the first cars. They did it faster than Polaris did for their new car. I wouldn’t complain if they did another 6 months of testing and development personally. I’ve heard people saying he’s trying to make the car too good And it’s taking too long, and others say the car is obsolete and crappy because it took too long, which is it?

If you are so sure I’m digging my own grave let’s make it interesting.. new bets for production announcement, deliveries, what?
Let’s hope Robbie doesn’t make the same mistake Lexus did with the LFA, still turned out to be a beautiful car however.
 

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Let’s hope Robbie doesn’t make the same mistake Lexus did with the LFA, still turned out to be a beautiful car however.
The only real problem with the LFA was that it was too expensive for what it was. This isn’t bleeding edge supercar tech We are talking about here.

Do a feature comparison of the Speed car vs a Pro R... Pro R has more electronics, Speed comes with more upgrades, more power, bigger shocks etc.... for less money.

The UTV equivalent of taking too long to develop would probably be the Honda Talon..
 
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The only real problem with the LFA was that it was too expensive for what it was. This isn’t bleeding edge supercar tech We are talking about here.

Do a feature comparison of the Speed car vs a Pro R... Pro R has more electronics, Speed comes with more upgrades, more power, bigger shocks etc.... for less money.

The UTV equivalent of taking too long to develop would probably be the Honda Talon..
That’s not the issue I was referring too, the LFA took so long to design by the time it was finished they had to go back and redesign it. Like you said people are worried that Robbie is trying to make the car too good, I’m sure he could release it tomorrow and it would be good enough for 100% of pre order buyers.
 

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That’s not the issue I was referring too, the LFA took so long to design by the time it was finished they had to go back and redesign it. Like you said people are worried that Robbie is trying to make the car too good, I’m sure he could release it tomorrow and it would be good enough for 100% of pre order buyers.

They took what like 10 years to design it. If it wasn’t so expensive I think the few shortcomings would have been better received.

Like I said, all the features line up well, and Speed is way out front in many areas. Overdrive, flex fuel, horsepower, etc.
 

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They took what like 10 years to design it. If it wasn’t so expensive I think the few shortcomings would have been better received.

Like I said, all the features line up well, and Speed is way out front in many areas. Overdrive, flex fuel, horsepower, etc.
It was too expensive because of the double engineering, they still lost money on every LFA sold. If Robby makes his UTV perfect how will he be able to justify coming out with a new generation in 3-5 years😁
 

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It was too expensive because of the double engineering, they still lost money on every LFA sold. If Robby makes his UTV perfect how will he be able to justify coming out with a new generation in 3-5 years😁

I like the idea of engineering exercises (LFA and Veyron for example, neither were profitable) but for a fledgling company like Speed I find that to be rather risky.

I tend to agree that Robbie may be allowing perfect to be the enemy of good, but there is also risk to a fledgling company like Speed to release a car with issues, both for reputation and warranty implications.
 

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It was too expensive because of the double engineering, they still lost money on every LFA sold. If Robby makes his UTV perfect how will he be able to justify coming out with a new generation in 3-5 years😁

He’s already said the closed cockpit car with AC is next. They already have a 1.3L engine variant.

Get ready for $60k SXS in the next 5 years.
 

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He’s already said the closed cockpit car with AC is next. They already have a 1.3L engine variant.

Get ready for $60k SXS in the next 5 years.

$60k closed cockpit with AC and a bit more power (reliably) starts making an interesting comparison to very well built broncos and other similar prerunners.
 

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A/C? 🤣 That would be the equivalent to tapping out in your car on the way to the Octagon.
 

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$60k closed cockpit with AC and a bit more power (reliably) starts making an interesting comparison to very well built broncos and other similar prerunners.
Yep. Mass produced, financed with a warranty, or custom one off cash with no warranty.
 

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A jeep is not a SXS, and they exist.

And a zebra is not a turtle.

SXS with AC already exist. People have been “tapping out” going off road with AC for decades.

Guys that tow giant climate controlled boxes with stereos and TVs powered by generators out to the desert and call it “camping” have no business telling anyone they are tapping out.. they already tapped out. 🤣
 
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And a zebra is not a turtle.

SXS with AC already exist. People have been “tapping out” going off road with AC for decades.

You missed the point.Again.Quitting is hard they say.
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You missed the point.Again.Quitting is hard they say. View attachment 1097339


No, guys that tow giant climate controlled boxes with stereos and TVs powered by generators out to the desert and call it “camping” have no business telling anyone they are tapping out.. they already tapped out in the finance office of Giant RV. 🤣🤣🤣
 

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No, guys that tow giant climate controlled boxes with stereos and TVs powered by generators out to the desert and call it “camping” have no business telling anyone they are tapping out.. they already tapped out 🤣🤣🤣

Quite the opposite, that's called Winning. You don't have to repeat yoreself, we've all heard it before.
 

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Yep. Mass produced, financed with a warranty, or custom one off cash with no warranty.

Part of me feels like that, as sxs start to get up towards 60k+ in cost that the finance and warranty conversation becomes a little less important. For 20-30k XP1000 and standard X3s? Absolutely finance and warranty the shit out of it, but for someone who is willing to 2-3x that spend I'm wondering if there will be more serious cash buyers who want that "ultimate performance."

I wonder if that applies to boats as well? Have a feeling that 100% of the boats that Tracker or Sea-Doo make are financed to the hilt, and maybe the stuff coming out of Nordic and Cobra are purchased more with cash. I may be way off on that.
 
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Boat my ass get on another thread. Lol this is Speed UTV lol
 
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Speed UTV’s for sale now. Master #35 will be in first run batch. Get it now before it’s gone.
 

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Part of me feels like that, as sxs start to get up towards 60k+ in cost that the finance and warranty conversation becomes a little less important. For 20-30k XP1000 and standard X3s? Absolutely finance and warranty the shit out of it, but for someone who is willing to 2-3x that spend I'm wondering if there will be more serious cash buyers who want that "ultimate performance."

I wonder if that applies to boats as well? Have a feeling that 100% of the boats that Tracker or Sea-Doo make are financed to the hilt, and maybe the stuff coming out of Nordic and Cobra are purchased more with cash. I may be way off on that.
Could be. My thought is there will be few cash buyers. Most people have them a few years and upgrade. It’s not an RV or a boat that will last you decades.

Look at it this way.. a lot of people have $50k+ into their builds today. You can go buy a custom Can am or RZR at Bert or wherever and it already costs $60k.

The $40k cars of today are cheap compared to a $20k build on an Xp1000 6-7 years ago.

And an $18k stock XP1k put a Rhino with $10k in it to shame from 6-7 years before that.

My point is you are at least getting more value as the prices go up. But holding one of these for a decade is not the norm. Buy a 2 year old used built one every 3-4 years. You lose your ass otherwise. Let someone else take the hit.
 

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Part of me feels like that, as sxs start to get up towards 60k+ in cost that the finance and warranty conversation becomes a little less important. For 20-30k XP1000 and standard X3s? Absolutely finance and warranty the shit out of it, but for someone who is willing to 2-3x that spend I'm wondering if there will be more serious cash buyers who want that "ultimate performance."

I wonder if that applies to boats as well? Have a feeling that 100% of the boats that Tracker or Sea-Doo make are financed to the hilt, and maybe the stuff coming out of Nordic and Cobra are purchased more with cash. I may be way off on that.
In the past few years rates / money has been so cheap to finance things. I think a lot more has been financed than paid cash.
 

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In the past few years rates / money has been so cheap to finance things. I think a lot more has been financed than paid cash.
Theres a lot of inheritance money out there, but why pay cash, when the investment market is returning double digit returns.
 
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Video he just posted in Parker was badass. 102 fly by and the hood blew off. Turbo sounds gnarly
 

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the engine sounded awesome and it was moving That was a good run for sure
 
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