21 Daytona Rebuild

[No Butt No Putt]

Started pulling everything apart to send her out for gel repair.


Next week we will start on building new seats.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Passenger seat and side panel.

 

[Joker]

What year and drive?

 

[rivrrts429]

Subscribed. Was this the one in Havasu with an outboard?

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Yes it was.

 

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Removing all the hardware. Off to Martinez on Friday.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

They have a lot of cracked gel to fix.

 

[rivrrts429]

Yes it was.

When's the split bowl dominator and low pro intake getting done [emoji2]

Very cool. Looking forward to seeing this come together. [emoji106]

 

[No Butt No Putt]

What year and drive?

It's a 95 with a 2.5L 260hp Mercury on it.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

When's the split bowl dominator and low pro intake getting done [emoji2]

Very cool. Looking forward to seeing this come together. [emoji106]

We've talked about building a 540 for it and putting a jet in it. We've also talked about putting a new 300XS on it. I think for this season my bank account is going to hate me. So gel, interior, gauges, powder coat, hydro steering, and a new windshield will be about it. Next year. New power and trailer.

 

[Big B Hova]

Removing all the hardware. Off to Martinez on Friday. View attachment 474865

It will turn out bitchin at Martinez 👍

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Crazy how people would order that boat with cable steering, dangerous and a bitch to drive. Did you find out if it was Kevlar or not? Was it rigged by dcb or eliminator?

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Eliminator couldn't tell me what it was made out of but my buddy said glass and it was built by Eliminator in April of 95. It was 1 of 17 made that year. Sold private party. Only 3 went to DCB that year.

 

[Wadernation]

that was fast! im glad you found one. What shape is the motor in? if you go the jet route let me have first grabs at that motor :thumbsup

 

[No Butt No Putt]

that was fast! im glad you found one. What shape is the motor in? if you go the jet route let me have first grabs at that motor :thumbsup

I got too good of a deal to pass on it. Even with the work it needs. Compression is great 126-128 across all. Leak down was a little high on 2 cylinders at 16. But it runs great.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Those numbers were on a cold engine. I'm sure hot it would be better.

 

[Wadernation]

I got too good of a deal to pass on it. Even with the work it needs. Compression is great 126-128 across all. Leak down was a little high on 2 cylinders at 16. But it runs great.

thats awesome! hopefully see you on the water sooner than later. Always running to down to Picacho.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

We might make it this season. Building a boat and having a baby on the way might put a stop to that. But we will see.

 

[hallett21]

Crazy how people would order that boat with cable steering, dangerous and a bitch to drive. Did you find out if it was Kevlar or not? Was it rigged by dcb or eliminator?

Could you get hydraulic in 95? My 90 vector had push pull until 03. Talk about a forearm builder for a 12 year old lol.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Could you get hydraulic in 95? My 90 vector had push pull until 03. Talk about a forearm builder for a 12 year old lol.

My dads 89 Vector has the Merc power steering but not a external ram hydro steering.

I plan on adding hydro steering when it gets back from gel but before the upholstery gets done.

 

[hallett21]

My dads 89 Vector has the Merc power steering but not a external ram hydro steering.

I plan on adding hydro steering when it gets back from gel but before the upholstery gets done.

Mines an outboard

 

[River Lynchmob]

Very nice...let the snowball begin!

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Very nice...let the snowball begin!

Thanks. Snow ball?

 

[Ultra247]

Snowball....The best way that I can quantify major boat upgrades from my experience is that you should always get three bids. You then add them together and that is about what you are going to spend.

Hence the term.....Snowball!!!!

Good luck and awesome looking boat!!! It will be bitchen.....It just won't be cheap!!!http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

 

[RCDave]

Suggestion. If you intend to keep this boat O/B powered, consider power hydraulic steering. It will save you money converting the Hydraulic to full power down the road

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Snowball....The best way that I can quantify major boat upgrades from my experience is that you should always get three bids. You then add them together and that is about what you are going to spend.

Hence the term.....Snowball!!!!

Good luck and awesome looking boat!!! It will be bitchen.....It just won't be cheap!!!http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Gotcha. I know it won't be cheap but at least it's a Daytona.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Suggestion. If you intend to keep this boat O/B powered, consider power hydraulic steering. It will save you money converting the Hydraulic to full power down the road

Is power hydraulic steering necessary over just regular hydraulic steering?

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Is power hydraulic steering necessary over just regular hydraulic steering?

For a single outboard, I really don't think so. I've driven boats with Seastar steering systems and they as smooth as silk at any speeds and require about the same force at idle as they do at 80.

 

[Ultra247]

I have regular hydraulic steering on my Baker Tunnel and it works great. I have power hydraulic steering on my Ultra and it's nice. I would not bother with power hydraulic steering on an outboard. I found that the regular works great.

 

[RCDave]

I have non-powered assisted SeaStar Hydraulic steering on my 22 Cougar MTR (300xs powered). Its great. Smooth, precise, very little play. (in addition to a bob's hyd jack plate and 14" of set back)

But the higher the jackplate settings and speed, the stiffer it gets on one direction. I believe in the direction of prop rotation.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Thanks for the info guys. I plan on Sea Stars hydro steering.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Thanks for the info guys. I plan on Sea Stars hydro steering.

Spend the extra coin and upgrade to the tournament pro ram with the sea star set up or get a side ram set up. Overkill on steering is money well spent. If a single attachment pin fails on the base sea stars at speed your most likely going to die. Torque of the engine instantly throws it to full lock and you go out. Lost a good friend racing when this happened and he was on the warm up lap.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Spend the extra coin and upgrade to the tournament pro ram with the sea star set up or get a side ram set up. Overkill on steering is money well spent. If a single attachment pin fails on the base sea stars at speed your most likely going to die. Torque of the engine instantly throws it to full lock and you go out. Lost a good friend racing when this happened and he was on the warm up lap.

Upgrade to which style? Do you have a link?

 

[Classic Daycruiser]

Upgrade to which style? Do you have a link?

??? Kevlar hoses

http://www.seastarsolutions.com/products/hydraulic-new/outboard-new/seastar_pro/

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Spend the extra coin and upgrade to the tournament pro ram with the sea star set up or get a side ram set up. Overkill on steering is money well spent. If a single attachment pin fails on the base sea stars at speed your most likely going to die. Torque of the engine instantly throws it to full lock and you go out. Lost a good friend racing when this happened and he was on the warm up lap.

I'm not too sure what kind you are referring to? All steering systems have a single point for failure. Just due to the nature that is the fact that they pivot. In order to have redundancy to the steering system it would require another cylinder and tiller arm mounted to the engine. Or twin hydraulic cylinders on the system connected to separate points.

For a single O/B non-race application, that just doesn't make sense to do. A well maintained system shouldn't give that many problems at all anyways. Shit, look how many O/B boats there are with the Seastar system on them with no issues.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

I'm not too sure what kind you are referring to? All steering systems have a single point for failure. Just due to the nature that is the fact that they pivot. In order to have redundancy to the steering system it would require another cylinder and tiller arm mounted to the engine. Or twin hydraulic cylinders on the system connected to separate points.

For a single O/B non-race application, that just doesn't make sense to do. A well maintained system shouldn't give that many problems at all anyways. Shit, look how many O/B boats there are with the Seastar system on them with no issues.

Side ram is the beefiest but you are correct a pivot is a pivot. On the older boats many people have upgraded power but the sea star is an older unit or a bay star. If he's buying new it really is only a few dollars more to get the pro or pro tournament instead of the standard sea star.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

The full kits are on Amazon by the way

 

[HST4ME]

Check the tiller arm bolt head, if it doesn't say ARP throw it in the trash and go to a merc dealer and order 10-849838

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Check the tiller arm bolt head, if it doesn't say ARP throw it in the trash and go to a merc dealer and order 10-849838

Thanks for the heads up. I only want to do these things once.

 

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Gutted, cleaned and ready for her face lift.

 

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Need to remove the battle wounds.

 

[RCDave]

Exciting. Keep the pics coming

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Leaving the motor on it?

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Leaving the motor on it?

I'm not doing the transom. There's only 3 holes to fill back there. I'm only doing from the blue up that is about 3 inches above the run rail. So removing all the blue from the bow and dash.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

Going all white on the top half. Leaving the blue by the rub rails though.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

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Going all white on the top half. Leaving the blue by the rub rails though.

I'm interested to see how that looks. Kicked around the idea of doing similar to mine but add a badass pin stripe on the bow to break up the solid white.

 

[JRider]

So, the XS would be nice, but a 260 with a few small upgrades would out perform the XS all day long. And you already own the 260...:thumbup:

Cut the heads, inspect, rering, lean the box out 2 clicks, different chip and FPR...that will perform.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

I'm interested to see how that looks. Kicked around the idea of doing similar to mine but add a badass pin stripe on the bow to break up the solid white.

I like the all white. Widowmaker's looks badass and its all white. I'm going to leave some color. But mostly white. Hopefully BUDMAN can swing by there next week and snap some progress pics.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

So, the XS would be nice, but a 260 with a few small upgrades would out perform the XS all day long. And you already own the 260...:thumbup:

Cut the heads, inspect, rering, lean the box out 2 clicks, different chip and FPR...that will perform.

Next winter we plan on either going 300xs or building this one to the hill!

 

[No Butt No Putt]

So, the XS would be nice, but a 260 with a few small upgrades would out perform the XS all day long. And you already own the 260...:thumbup:

Cut the heads, inspect, rering, lean the box out 2 clicks, different chip and FPR...that will perform.

What's a FPR?