1 week sale / 20 Schiada turned Project Schiada

[rivergames]

Maybe try one of these. :skull

I have a small chipping hammer and the thought crossed my mind yesterday as I was beating on these pricks

 

[Marko]

Oh man this thing is snow ballin BIGTIME!!!
Might as well redo the trailer!!

 

[rivergames]

Oh man this thing is snow ballin BIGTIME!!!
Might as well redo the trailer!!

I am going to love that jack n coke u are going to buy me at fox's for keeping you entertained this winter. :drnkfr

Oh and by the way, the trailer is getting redone too :bash:

 

[RiverDave]

Are you doing the trailer yourself?

RD

 

[Marko]

I am going to love that jack n coke u are going to buy me at fox's for keeping you entertained this winter. :drnkfr

Oh and by the way, the trailer is getting redone too :bash:

HAAA! Dont threaten me with a good time!!

 

[rivergames]

Are you doing the trailer yourself?

RD

I am going to do the following myself:

-junk the whole fiberglass fenders/steps
-Fab new steps
-sandblast the whole trailer
-either powder coat or paint the trailer red
-new bunks and carpet
-rewire the trailer with new LED lights
-new polished aluminum diamond plate on steps
-new polished stainless fenders
-make a new spare tire bracket
-make a new nose support and winch

I want a nice hitch for the trailer too.

I only have around $1000 to spend on this shit, so I need to do a lot of it myself

 

[overpriced hallet]

If you can do all that for 1,000 after all this is done and your bored let me know! as i will pay you 2,000 to do mine :thumbsup. Andrew this looks like allot of fun, but shit this deffinantly snowballing as marko said. and as for filling the holes this is what kenny told me as I was gonna do the same with the dowls but there is a million ways to fuck a bitch. Anyhow keep up the good work It will be bitchen when all is done then I can go try and keep up with you.

 

[420HOA]

Oh man this thing is snow ballin BIGTIME!!!
Might as well redo the trailer!!

and the interior and the truck and driveway and the ????? :slomo:

 

[rivergames]

If you can do all that for 1,000 after all this is done and your bored let me know! as i will pay you 2,000 to do mine :thumbsup. Andrew this looks like allot of fun, but shit this deffinantly snowballing as marko said. and as for filling the holes this is what kenny told me as I was gonna do the same with the dowls but there is a million ways to fuck a bitch. Anyhow keep up the good work It will be bitchen when all is done then I can go try and keep up with you.

Haha, once you get the dimarco back together, they should be a pretty good match up.

As far as the $1000, thats just for the trailer (not including buying the stainless fenders) So really I figured around $1500 for the total trailer work.

 

[rivergames]

and the interior and the truck and driveway and the ????? :slomo:

speaking of the truck, when all is said and done I'm taking my dually to mako and getting the whole thing painted to match the schiada.

 

[Marko]

Ok , you've had all weekend! pics?

 

[rivergames]

Well, the boat was supposed to go to Kevin @ KMG's yesteday. I got to my shop early to pull the cavitation plates off. The Fockin bolts are epoxied all the way through the bottom and the head of the bolts are filled in. Each bolt is a nightmare. There a few in there that I dont think I can get out without drilling. This is bullshit

The boat will go down to Kevin's when I can get these bolts off :swear

 

[BamBam]

Well, the boat was supposed to go to Kevin @ KMG's yesteday. I got to my shop early to pull the cavitation plates off. The Fockin bolts are epoxied all the way through the bottom and the head of the bolts are filled in. Each bolt is a nightmare. There a few in there that I dont think I can get out without drilling. This is bullshit

The boat will go down to Kevin's when I can get these bolts off :swear

Are you sure that they are epoxied? When I worked at Schiada all of the cav bolt holes were tapped into the fiberglass and then installed with silicone sealant. That means they won't fall or even drive out of the bottom without being screwed out. Just a thought... Hope it helps

 

[420HOA]

Ok , you've had all weekend! pics?

:lmao

 

[rivergames]

Are you sure that they are epoxied? When I worked at Schiada all of the cav bolt holes were tapped into the fiberglass and then installed with silicone sealant. That means they won't fall or even drive out of the bottom without being screwed out. Just a thought... Hope it helps

I got 1 bolt completely out so far with vice grips. When the bolt came out, there was a gray powder left in the whole. It looks alot like gray marine tex.

 

[BamBam]

I got 1 bolt completely out so far with vice grips. When the bolt came out, there was a gray powder left in the whole. It looks alot like gray marine tex.

Try an impact driver. you know one of those tools with a screwdriver bit in it and when you hit it, driving it into the screw, it turns and backs the screw out. Once it starts spinning, whether it is marine tex or fiberglass you may find it easier to unscrew than pull/force and beat it out.

 

[Marko]

That sucks. I've taken a couple of old boats apart so I know what you're going thru. Especially if they are old enough that they werent put together with stainless hardware! Sounds like his idea using an impact driver just to break em loose is a good idea. But you're sayin the head of the bolt is full of epoxy so you cant get a tool in it, pain in the ass! And theres a shit load of em!

 

[rivergames]

That sucks. I've taken a couple of old boats apart so I know what you're going thru. Especially if they are old enough that they werent put together with stainless hardware! Sounds like his idea using an impact driver just to break em loose is a good idea. But you're sayin the head of the bolt is full of epoxy so you cant get a tool in it, pain in the ass! And theres a shit load of em!

I might try to use a dremel with a small cut off wheel to slot the head of the bolt. Then use the impact driver to try and break them free. So far, this is the biggest pain in the ass I have faced with this boat. Everything else is a walk in the park

 

[Marko]

I was just gonna say that, a cut off wheel. Grind a slot big enough for a big flat blade. You might fuck up the plates in the process though.
Might as well go ahead and REPLACE THE PLATES ALSO!!! :thumbsup

Has it got stainless hardware on it?

 

[rivergames]

I was just gonna say that, a cut off wheel. Grind a slot big enough for a big flat blade. You might fuck up the plates in the process though.
Might as well go ahead and REPLACE THE PLATES ALSO!!! :thumbsup

While I'm at it I should make a blast plate too. Oh and since Im doing that, I should add a new strut. Oh and since there is new plates, I should probably get new plate pads, then I will need new turnbuckles and eye levers. Fock it, why not just get a whole new cavitation setup while im at it

 

[Marko]

I can think of one GOOD reason not to.....$$$$$$$$$$$ !

 

[420HOA]

I was just gonna say that, a cut off wheel. Grind a slot big enough for a big flat blade. You might fuck up the plates in the process though.
Might as well go ahead and REPLACE THE PLATES ALSO!!! :thumbsup
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:
Has it got stainless hardware on it?

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

 

[SFV2RVR]

While I'm at it I should make a blast plate too. Oh and since Im doing that, I should add a new strut. Oh and since there is new plates, I should probably get new plate pads, then I will need new turnbuckles and eye levers. Fock it, why not just get a whole new cavitation setup while im at it

I know how you feel. Cause im doing the same shit to mine! Oh and build my triple axle at the same time too!

 

[Marko]

I wanted a triple for mine really bad but cheapskated out on that one.

 

[420HOA]

I wanted a triple for mine really bad but cheapskated out on that one.

Tripples are for "trailer queens" :gayfight

 

[SKIA36]

I can think of one GOOD reason not to.....$$$$$$$$$$$ !

Just put it on your credit card $6 at a time...including tip.

 

[Marko]

Just put it on your credit card $6 at a time...including tip.

Hey... I talked my way oughta that one! Works every time!:beer

 

[SFV2RVR]

Tripples are for "trailer queens" :gayfight

The boat that sits on this triple wont be! I drive my shit more than anyone. And im not afraid to tie it up at the bar!:champagne:

 

[420HOA]

The boat that sits on this triple wont be! I drive my shit more than anyone. And im not afraid to tie it up at the bar!:champagne:

Yes you do ! and no your not afraid to tie up at the bar nor am ( in the pontoon )

 

[Marko]

Did you get the stringers plugged yet? Lets see some pics how they turned out!

 

[rivergames]

Did you get the stringers plugged yet? Lets see some pics how they turned out!

Last night I made a tool that connects to my impact driver. My buddies should be here any minute to help me flip my boat. I need to put all my weight into trying to take the cavitation plate bolts out.

Then I am going to take all the speed coat off the bottom

pics to come tonight or tomorrow

 

[rivergames]

Alright, So yesterday I got the boat flipped over.

I took BamBam's advice and welded a air chisel to a 1/2" socket. I grinded the air chisel to fit the bolts perfectly. Then hooked up my air compressor and with enough down force and drive they turned out. Great idea BamBam, I honestly don't think there was any other way to get those out.

Then I started using Laquer Thinner and a Scotch Bright to take the speed coat off. That speed coat shit is nasty, but it is coming off. Looks like the bottom was worked on a bit, then they speed coated it to hide work. The Bottom is pretty flat so thats nice.

 

[rivergames]

Oh And I think I am going to add a drop through strut with a strut brace :bash::smackbum::smackhead

And probably a blast plate

 

[74 spectra20 v-drive]

Andrew, good thing you were cooking all that food, looks like you busted out some work yesterday. Hey the sterring helm looks great, I got it cleaned up and put together, the single helm uses a lot of the same parts, there was a plastic cap that was cracked, but the one I had was perfect... the same with the cables the long one had a little crack and it was the same as the one I had will work great. I am not going to use the long steering post, so if you want that I can drop it off for you.

Cliff

 

[rivergames]

Andrew, good thing you were cooking all that food, looks like you busted out some work yesterday. Hey the sterring helm looks great, I got it cleaned up and put together, the single helm uses a lot of the same parts, there was a plastic cap that was cracked, but the one I had was perfect... the same with the cables the long one had a little crack and it was the same as the one I had will work great. I am not going to use the long steering post, so if you want that I can drop it off for you.

Cliff

Hey Cliff, I gotta tell ya, It was hard to get any work done with a belly that is about to pop. I'm glad that will work out for you. Looking forward to seeing your boat getting rigged.

Keep the post, It wont do me any good. Plus I already bought another steering post so i am good to go. :thumbsup

 

[steveo143]

J.J. Beaver made a beautiful dropthru strut for my 19' Schiada out of 1704 stainless. Might want to put some dropthru fins on too! I made the strut brace for it.

 

[rivergames]

J.J. Beaver made a beautiful dropthru strut for my 19' Schiada out of 1704 stainless. Might want to put some dropthru fins on too! I made the strut brace for it.

I got off the phone with JJ 15 minutes ago. I need to take my strut off.

Let me ask you this, On a drop through strut, do I cut the hole for that after the fiberglass is done or before?

 

[BamBam]

I'm glad I was able to help you with your fight to get those cav plate bolts out. Just lookin out for a fellow Schiada owner... Good luck with the project. I can see the "snowball" growing. Keep at it and it will be awesome when you're done.

 

[steveo143]

I got off the phone with JJ 15 minutes ago. I need to take my strut off.

Let me ask you this, On a drop through strut, do I cut the hole for that after the fiberglass is done or before?

I would cut it after. I would build up a flat pad on the inside to mount your strut brace. Probably going to have to fill the bolt holes and drill new ones as yours look to be perpendicular to the bottom of the boat. Racey, jump in anytime! On my boat the strut was inset, so I reused the existing holes but went from 5/18 to 3/8 and used grade 8 steel bolts counter sunk into the bottom,filled the inset with a little silicone and covered with speed coat. When you set the new strut you will need the v-drive and shaft log inplace, that is why I said to cut the hole after glass work is done.

 

[RiverDave]

I got off the phone with JJ 15 minutes ago. I need to take my strut off.

Let me ask you this, On a drop through strut, do I cut the hole for that after the fiberglass is done or before?

Can you PM me his #?

RD

 

[420HOA]

Can you PM me his #?

RD

8675309 "got it" !
it was written on the wall

 

[rivergames]

The boat is now down with Kevin @ KMG Boats. I will be working on the trailer now and then picking the boat up on January 15th

 

[rivergames]

pic of Kevins shop/ Pretty nice shop he has there :thumbsup

 

[Marko]

So what are you having him do? You gonna do the stripes now?

 

[rivergames]

So what are you having him do? You gonna do the stripes now?

fix bulkhead, patch a bunch of holes, add glass to floor, speed coat bottom, flow coat floors/bulkhead/transom, add stripes to the outside of the boat.

Kevin is doing tons of work and will be knocking it out VERY quickly. Almost sounds to good to be true

I met Kevin yesterday and he is a great guy to deal with.

I saw the work he did to his jet boat. Completely flawless paint job and the inside is spotless.

 

[rivergames]

Let me ask you guys this,

Say I fill the hole for the rudder, and want to move the new hole closer to the transom, will this effect the handling of the boat any different?

 

[Racey]

Let me ask you guys this,

Say I fill the hole for the rudder, and want to move the new hole closer to the transom, will this effect the handling of the boat any different?

The further you can get the rudder from the prop wash the better response you will get at higher speeds.


Also you said you are speed coating the bottom. It's my honest opinion that speed coating itself does nothing for performance, the only reason you see speed coating on the bottoms of other boats is because they have been ground and blueprinted and it's way easier to spray the ground bottom with graphite than it is to re-gel and wet sand the whole bottom and maintain shape. In other words the speed coat itself is not what gives you the benefits, it's just an easy and effective covering for ground and blueprinted glass

Basically i would take the money you are going to spend on the speed coat and spend it somewhere else, cause the speed coat by itself isn't going to give you any noticeable benefits

 

[rivergames]

The further you can get the rudder from the prop wash the better response you will get at higher speeds.


Also you said you are speed coating the bottom. It's my honest opinion that speed coating itself does nothing for performance, the only reason you see speed coating on the bottoms of other boats is because they have been ground and blueprinted and it's way easier to spray the ground bottom with graphite than it is to re-gel and wet sand the whole bottom and maintain shape. In other words the speed coat itself is not what gives you the benefits, it's just an easy and effective covering for ground and blueprinted glass

Basically i would take the money you are going to spend on the speed coat and spend it somewhere else, cause the speed coat by itself isn't going to give you any noticeable benefits

When I flipped the boat and took the speed coat off, I noticed that the bottom has previously been worked on. High spots were ground down and low spots were filled. Like you mentioned, the only reason I am speed coating the bottom is to cover it up.

I am glad that moving the rudder closer to the transom will actually improve the performance. By moving the rudder back, will give me room to keep the seats in their original locations.

 

[Racey]

When I flipped the boat and took the speed coat off, I noticed that the bottom has previously been worked on. High spots were ground down and low spots were filled. Like you mentioned, the only reason I am speed coating the bottom is to cover it up.

I am glad that moving the rudder closer to the transom will actually improve the performance. By moving the rudder back, will give me room to keep the seats in their original locations.

I was looking at this on my phone and missed all the previous posts and pictures :smackhead I'm an idiot, please carry on as normal

 

[Marko]

fix bulkhead, patch a bunch of holes, add glass to floor, speed coat bottom, flow coat floors/bulkhead/transom, add stripes to the outside of the boat.

Kevin is doing tons of work and will be knocking it out VERY quickly. Almost sounds to good to be true

I met Kevin yesterday and he is a great guy to deal with.

I saw the work he did to his jet boat. Completely flawless paint job and the inside is spotless.

I would be VERY suspicious of this individual!!! :boobeyes: