New Barron Boats Model

[attitude]

Looks like a RDP fan favorite is being resurrected.

 

[lbhsbz]

Will we get the Epstein files or the new Barron first?

 

[Gelcoater]

Will we get the Epstein files or the new Barron first?

Barron for sure. I know for a fact it is at this point, a solid object

 

[Spot]

300T?

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

300T?

240

 

[hallett21]

Wait truly the OG 240?

The one that was cut up?

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

300T?

It says 242S

 

[Bajastu]

Hopfully not the 245 bottom.

 

[Jay Dub]

really looking forward to seeing this. maybe its a new version of the OG 240?

 

[85RiverRAT]

 

[satellitemike]

Its a 240 with a minor add/adjustment to the rear.

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

Wait truly the OG 240?

The one that was cut up?

I always thought it was odd that they’d cut up arguably their most popular model lol.

 

[Done-it-again]

I always thought it was odd that they’d cut up arguably their most popular model lol.

Did they know it was the most popular prior to the 255 coming out. Maybe they thought the modern looking 255 would take over, so why keep the old model?

As for the 242S coming out. No way the base price is going to be less than a Tahiti.

I would say base around $140k.

 

[hallett21]

Did they know it was the most popular prior to the 255 coming out. Maybe they thought the modern looking 255 would take over, so why keep the old model?

As for the 242S coming out. No way the base price is going to be less than a Tahiti.

I would say base around $140k.

From what I remember Hallett basically forced the issue lol. Because I think people would have continued to buy the 240.

 

[Done-it-again]

From what I remember Hallett basically forced the issue lol. Because I think people would have continued to buy the 240.

Why not, once a new one comes out, the old product is not "supported" any longer. The issue in this case, is the new one didn't appeal to the masses but I'm sure it took sometime to find that out and the old one was already gone.

 

[hallett21]

Why not, once a new one comes out, the old product is not "supported" any longer. The issue in this case, is the new one didn't appeal to the masses but I'm sure it took sometime to find that out and the old one was already gone.

Hallett had a reputation of telling a customer what they wanted for a while lol.

245
250
27 cat

I know I’m forgetting some. Hard to argue that the clientele wanted 210, 240, 270 and 300. Even to this day that’s what people look for used.

I don’t mean to bash them. Companies need to always be evolving, but I think ego gets the best of west coast boat builders.

 

[the510]

the 240 is pimp. I can't wait to see the new Barron.

 

[Done-it-again]

Hallett had a reputation of telling a customer what they wanted for a while lol.

245
250
27 cat

I know I’m forgetting some. Hard to argue that the clientele wanted 210, 240, 270 and 300. Even to this day that’s what people look for used.

I don’t mean to bash them. Companies need to always be evolving, but I think ego gets the best of west coast boat builders.

What company in those days when these were coming out were pushing out of the box thinking? Unfortunately for Hallett the trends/performance they designed didn't work out so well.

 

[hallett21]

What company in those days when these were coming out were pushing out of the box thinking? Unfortunately for Hallett the trends/performance they designed didn't work out so well.

Howard with the Bullet line for V bottoms.

I believe that’s around when the Lavey 2750 came out.

Advantage X flight

 

[Runs2rch]

Howard with the Bullet line for V bottoms.

I believe that’s around when the Lavey 2750 came out.

Advantage X flight

Man I miss the late 90's early 2000's.

 

[Done-it-again]

Howard with the Bullet line for V bottoms.

I believe that’s around when the Lavey 2750 came out.

Advantage X flight

The Howard and Lavey were just larger models of the same bottom really. The X flight is out of the box thinking similar to what Hallett was trying to do with those models, just didn't perform all the well.

Heard the X flight works well, but it's damn hideous.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Heard the X flight works well, but it's damn hideous.

 

[Cole Trickle]

The 24' V bottom is dead. Not because people wouldn't love to have one but because the price no longer makes sense.

The Barron Deck was priced like all the other high end decks in the market and being a new company/Design I don't think they sold many.

This new model will be the same as most families just can't afford or justify a 140k boat. Its not the manufactures fault the crazy cost of power and a drive unit from mercury is ridiculous and the materials and hardware have doubled.

What's a mercury 540 and bravo cost these days 50-55k? I just don't see any way to build a boat and turn a profit for what i would consider a reasonable cost as a buyer.

 

[Gelcoater]

The 24' V bottom is dead. Not because people wouldn't love to have one but because the price no longer makes sense.

The Barron Deck was priced like all the other high end decks in the market and being a new company/Design I don't think they sold many.

This new model will be the same as most families just can't afford or justify a 140k boat. Its not the manufactures fault the crazy cost of power and a drive unit from mercury is ridiculous and the materials and hardware have doubled.

What's a mercury 540 and bravo cost these days 50-55k? I just don't see any way to build a boat and turn a profit for what i would consider a reasonable cost as a buyer.

Apparently the 24 v bottom isn’t dead, 2 are sold already from what I’ve heard.

The deck boat is about the same cost as the other mfgs maybe a little less. What they do have in their favor is if one wanted to get one, it isn’t a years wait to start the boat like some mfgs currently.

You are spot on with Mercury pricing.
I’m hoping to see Ilmor being considered as an option, the LS GM platform is ideal for boats, less weight than a BBC, the power is there and from what I’ve heard the engine block warranty is covered by GM
As a wise man once said, “If the boat doesn’t sell for at least 3x what the drive train cost, you didn’t make any money”

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

Did they know it was the most popular prior to the 255 coming out. Maybe they thought the modern looking 255 would take over, so why keep the old model?

As for the 242S coming out. No way the base price is going to be less than a Tahiti.

I would say base around $140k.

I guess it would have been pretty easy to figure out what your most popular model was but who knows. Sounds like this new Barron is the 240 though from what’s being said here. It’ll be cool to see the first one. Could be a popular setup depending on price point as has been mentioned.

 

[D19]

Very cool. Who is running Baron now?

 

[FROGMAN524]

Very cool. Who is running Baron now?

Apparently Chris Barron, but no idea how he’s related.

 

[Racer56]

Apparently the 24 v bottom isn’t dead, 2 are sold already from what I’ve heard.

The deck boat is about the same cost as the other mfgs maybe a little less. What they do have in their favor is if one wanted to get one, it isn’t a years wait to start the boat like some mfgs currently.

You are spot on with Mercury pricing.
I’m hoping to see Ilmor being considered as an option, the LS GM platform is ideal for boats, less weight than a BBC, the power is there and from what I’ve heard the engine block warranty is covered by GM
As a wise man once said, “If the boat doesn’t sell for at least 3x what the drive train cost, you didn’t make any money”

Why is there so little info on Ilmor powered boats? It's like they are a deep dark secret and only owners allowed to know how they work. I've seen pictures of the boats and Instagram videos of the boats idling at the dock, but there are zero performance reviews or first hand reviews of how the Ilmor engine and drive packages work.

 

[Runs2rch]

Apparently Chris Barron, but no idea how he’s related.

He is Jerry's nephew. Worked at Hallett for many years.

 

[Downbytheriver2]

Why is there so little info on Ilmor powered boats? It's like they are a deep dark secret and only owners allowed to know how they work. I've seen pictures of the boats and Instagram videos of the boats idling at the dock, but there are zero performance reviews or first hand reviews of how the Ilmor engine and drive packages work.

I've been been going down this rabbit hole for weeks now and the lack of information has been bothering me too!

 

[Jay Dub]

If Barron is trying keep costs down on the 242, would there be customer appeal in using the 496 mag ho? You can get brand new with Mercruiser warranty for low $30's

 

[hallett21]

Why is there so little info on Ilmor powered boats? It's like they are a deep dark secret and only owners allowed to know how they work. I've seen pictures of the boats and Instagram videos of the boats idling at the dock, but there are zero performance reviews or first hand reviews of how the Ilmor engine and drive packages work.

I've been been going down this rabbit hole for weeks now and the lack of information has been bothering me too!

The eliminator with the duo prop is for sale too.

 

[FreeBird236]

If Barron is trying keep costs down on the 242, would their be customer appeal in using the 496 mag ho? You can get brand new with Mercruiser warranty for low $30's

It would be great if they were still available in quantity, But I would bet those are for replacement engines. The 8.2 with catalytic converters replaced the 496 quite a few years ago, and I'm sure they would never be acceptable, especially in California.

 

[Runs2rch]

If Barron is trying keep costs down on the 242, would there be customer appeal in using the 496 mag ho? You can get brand new with Mercruiser warranty for low $30's

Best way would be to partner with a good engine builder. Put three combos together. 425hp, 525hp 625hp. All N/A. Would be half of Maocury with better parts, simpler, and packaged better. Offer the same 1 year warranty.

 

[Bigbore500r]

If Barron is trying keep costs down on the 242, would there be customer appeal in using the 496 mag ho? You can get brand new with Mercruiser warranty for low $30's

Everything sub-500hp requires Catalytic converters these days, and emissions certification to latest standards. They can't manufacture new boats and equip them with 496 HO remans or NOS motors

 

[Bigbore500r]

Best way would be to partner with a good engine builder. Put three combos together. 425hp, 525hp 625hp. All N/A. Would be half of Maocury with better parts, simpler, and packaged better. Offer the same 1 year warranty.

Emissions is the issue . . ..under 500hp requires cats and EPA compliance. I believe there are requirements over 500HP too, even withhout cats.
Very few aftermarket marine builders have the certifications to qualify and allow their engines to be sold as new power in boats built after 2010.

Teague is one that has certs, I thought boostpower might have as well but I can't remember.

Once you get the boat - you can repower it on the down low with whatever you want, and nobody checks (yet . . .).

 

[Runs2rch]

Everything sub-500hp requires Catalytic converters these days, and emissions certification to latest standards. They can't manufacture new boats and equip them with 496 HO remans or NOS motors

Forgot about that. 500HP and up it is.

 

[D19]

A brand-new, somewhat optioned Hallett 210 is around $140k.

Times have changed, and the custom boat industry no longer caters to middle-class, first-time buyers. With rising costs and labor shortages, it just doesn’t make sense for them to target this market anymore. Most people aren’t willing to spend six figures on an entry-level boat, so manufacturers are focusing on the higher-end buyers instead.

If you’re looking for a more affordable new boat, your best options are likely brands like Chaparral, Yamaha, Crownline, etc. These companies dominate the "entry-level" market, and custom builders simply can’t compete with them in that space.

It is what it is now—don’t get stuck in the past.

 

[pkrrvr619]

Apparently the 24 v bottom isn’t dead, 2 are sold already from what I’ve heard.

The deck boat is about the same cost as the other mfgs maybe a little less. What they do have in their favor is if one wanted to get one, it isn’t a years wait to start the boat like some mfgs currently.

You are spot on with Mercury pricing.
I’m hoping to see Ilmor being considered as an option, the LS GM platform is ideal for boats, less weight than a BBC, the power is there and from what I’ve heard the engine block warranty is covered by GM
As a wise man once said, “If the boat doesn’t sell for at least 3x what the drive train cost, you didn’t make any money”

wondering: since boat costs are so high these days, would taking older hulls that everyone knows performs, redoing the interior and maybe gel (wrap), refresh the engine and getting them on market be a viable way to get people on the water in performance boats? im not trying to make this a business, but this thread gave me pause as to how pricing out a lot of people may make our sport dwindle in numbers.

 

[Downbytheriver2]

wondering: since boat costs are so high these days, would taking older hulls that everyone knows performs, redoing the interior and maybe gel (wrap), refresh the engine and getting them on market be a viable way to get people on the water in performance boats? im not trying to make this a business, but this thread gave me pause as to how pricing out a lot of people may make our sport dwindle in numbers.

Probably slightly more affordable than new but shop rates around me are like 190 an hour for qualified work... that plus the cost of replacing or rebuilding an engine and drive is still a big undertaking.. re doing a 21 hallet or ultra or whatever along those lines would probably be around 75k if I was guessing plus whatever your into the hull for

 

[NicPaus]

There is also not as many people into boating these days. Probably due to costs.

But if you compare the amount of people at Glamis to the river and lakes. There just isn't that many on the water let alone buying new boats.

 

[LakeMead Boater]

They should slap an outboard on it. 5 year warranty and emissions stuff is handled

 

[Backlash]

They should slap an outboard on it. 5 year warranty and emissions stuff is handled

Two outboards.

 

[attitude]

They should slap an outboard on it. 5 year warranty and emissions stuff is handled

Push the hatch back and make a nice big U shape seating area, I think you are on to something.

 

[Runs2rch]

They should slap an outboard on it. 5 year warranty and emissions stuff is handled

I'm sure they will build it however you want. Perfect watersports boat. Do it.

 

[LakeMead Boater]

Push the hatch back and make a nice big U shape seating area, I think you are on to something.

Exactly! Similar to the ob 290

 

[LakeMead Boater]

I'm sure they will build it however you want. Perfect watersports boat. Do it.

You do it. I can be a decent boat bitch and I’ll even bring you those Bud Lights you like

 

[FROGMAN524]

Can't wait to see their rendition of the 240. Still one of the best all-around boats ever made.

 

[hallett21]

240 with a 450 or 500 would be a legit 70mph platform.

I’m really excited to hear what pricing is.

 

[Downbytheriver2]

There is also not as many people into boating these days. Probably due to costs.

But if you compare the amount of people at Glamis to the river and lakes. There just isn't that many on the water let alone buying new boats.

Except on holiday weekends!! Then everyone seems to have a nice boat and can't figure out how to get them back on their trailers