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Mine is good, but the 614 car, is horrible. He just hit 100 miles, so he definitely needs to reset his springs.

Reset his springs? What does that mean? Do the preload collars loosen over time? I guess they probably need some break-in time.
 
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Reset his springs? What does that mean? Do the preload collars loosen over time? I guess they probably need some break-in time.
The springs sag, like every other spring, you re-adjust the pre-load to get the ride hide back to the ideal location.
 

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The springs sag, like every other spring, you re-adjust the pre-load to get the ride hide back to the ideal location.

Like every other spring? I don't think so. I've had vehicles for 10 years that are pretty much at the same ride height as new.

Eibach sounds like the solution.
 

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I reset can am springs at 1000 miles. Then replaced at 2500 miles.
Sagging at 100 miles sounds quick.
It is, it's a known issue with the stock springs, but really, mine got reset at around 80 miles, and they don't appear to have sagged anymore. I don't think the hype about "NEEDING" new springs is a real thing.
 

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Can't go by years as a lot of SXS owners barely do more than 500 miles a years. LOL!

Also desert and trail miles are a lot easier on belts than dune miles.

Best I have done is 2800 miles on a XP1000 belt and my first Can Am went just over 2,000 miles.
I do about 3000 miles on a belt. I change them even tho they are not broken. I can feel the slip some so time for a new one.

Longest I went on my turbo s was 4500 miles that’s dunes and trails. I had top pieces missing too. But it wasn’t worn on one side like this one.

That’s allot of miles for both of you guys on a belt. I’m sure I’m the exception, but typically I start the season with an oil change, new air filter and new belt. Unless I do a Baja trip or something like that, my oil is good for a season, I probably change the air filter once more in a season and the belt is always good for a season. But I don’t do as many miles as you guys either.

If going to Baja I do the full prep over, even a new belt just because it’s cheap insurance, and part of a good prep. The other belt become spares. Typical Baja run has been 600-700 miles. Then when I get back, it’s new oil, air filter, siphon any Pemex left in the tank and run fresh fuel and an injector cleaner through it. And unless the belt slipped or got hot, I’ll inspect it, mic it and use it for the rest if the regular desert season. If not, I l put the pre-Baja belt back on and the Baja belt is marked as a back up.

Also how often are you guys opening up your CVT and blowing out the clutches? As for me, unless it was just not a dusty trip, or we don’t do a bunch of miles. I try to do it as part of my wash & put away prep after a desert trip.
 

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That’s allot of miles for both of you guys on a belt. I’m sure I’m the exception, but typically I start the season with an oil change, new air filter and new belt. Unless I do a Baja trip or something like that, my oil is good for a season, I probably change the air filter once more in a season and the belt is always good for a season. But I don’t do as many miles as you guys either.

If going to Baja I do the full prep over, even a new belt just because it’s cheap insurance, and part of a good prep. The other belt become spares. Typical Baja run has been 600-700 miles. Then when I get back, it’s new oil, air filter, siphon any Pemex left in the tank and run fresh fuel and an injector cleaner through it. And unless the belt slipped or got hot, I’ll inspect it, mic it and use it for the rest if the regular desert season. If not, I l put the pre-Baja belt back on and the Baja belt is marked as a back up.

Also how often are you guys opening up your CVT and blowing out the clutches? As for me, unless it was just not a dusty trip, or we don’t do a bunch of miles. I try to do it as part of my wash & put away prep after a desert trip.
My rides are typically 500+ miles a trip. So it’s a full prep before every trip oil, trans, diff, air filter. Basically every 25 hours. We do these about 1 per month every season. Air filter may go two trips depends on how dusty it was and if I lead or not.

For the belt. Same as you when I clean the car before I put it away I blow out the clutches.

Also between trips I am checking major systems of the car. For examples last prep I checked sway bars and end links for wear and play. Found my front sway bars was broken.

Right now I am checking ball joints and steering for play and will replace any worn parts as needed. I usually have a stock of these type of parts as they wear.

I can say I have finished every mile of every ride I have done under power. Prep is key to that and our group takes a lot of pride in prep. When we show up day 1 morning of the ride it’s like a mini show n shine lol
 

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It is, it's a known issue with the stock springs, but really, mine got reset at around 80 miles, and they don't appear to have sagged anymore. I don't think the hype about "NEEDING" new springs is a real thing.
Only if you scream as loud as a never Trumper lol!
 
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That’s allot of miles for both of you guys on a belt. I’m sure I’m the exception, but typically I start the season with an oil change, new air filter and new belt. Unless I do a Baja trip or something like that, my oil is good for a season, I probably change the air filter once more in a season and the belt is always good for a season. But I don’t do as many miles as you guys either.

If going to Baja I do the full prep over, even a new belt just because it’s cheap insurance, and part of a good prep. The other belt become spares. Typical Baja run has been 600-700 miles. Then when I get back, it’s new oil, air filter, siphon any Pemex left in the tank and run fresh fuel and an injector cleaner through it. And unless the belt slipped or got hot, I’ll inspect it, mic it and use it for the rest if the regular desert season. If not, I l put the pre-Baja belt back on and the Baja belt is marked as a back up.

Also how often are you guys opening up your CVT and blowing out the clutches? As for me, unless it was just not a dusty trip, or we don’t do a bunch of miles. I try to do it as part of my wash & put away prep after a desert trip.

My miles are a mix of dunes, desert, and some years Baja.

After every trip I open up the cover and blow out the clutches. Part of my process when I clean my SXS.

I try to change my belt out every 1000-1500 miles. Last belt only lasted a short time under 500 miles due to my clutches being worn out. Clutches had after just about 5,000 miles on them and the sheave faces were getting uneven wear along with some other clutch parts. Was lucky KWI Clutching was in Glamis between Christmas and New Years and got new clutches, clutch kit, and their float mod.

Oil and diff I change out about every 1500 miles. Air filter I check after each trip and blow it out. I put a new one in before the desert season. If it is after a Baja trip I just replace it with a new one.
 

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Fuck Eibach. Had a spring BREAK on a STREET mustang and they refused to replace it. Said it was abused. lol
 

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Ended up getting a set of the Hollander front wheel pivots. I did not do the inner bulkhead ones yet as they were not showing wear the outer ones were just starting. Made a short video. Hopefully it helps pretty straightforward, but I did have one or two questions.. He said, hit it with a hammer pretty good to knock it out once you get the clip out. He also said to put some never seize on them but if they fit real loose, use the green lock tight. Mine were perfectly snug. He also said you could put them in the freezer before you push them in, however, I did not have to do that. They fit just right. I jacked up the car in the middle put one Jack stand underneath the front corner and then used the AGM to support the lower arm, although it was hanging on the shock anyways. Just be careful and have car supported.
 

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What is the latest on deliveries, are they caught up with first orders that were placed ?
 

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What is the latest on deliveries, are they caught up with first orders that were placed ?
They have resumed deliveries this month but have thousands of pre-order cars still to deliver. Will probably take until next year for everyone to get their cars.
 

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They have resumed deliveries this month but have thousands of pre-order cars still to deliver. Will probably take until next year for everyone to get their cars.
So the design is still 2020 with a few upgrades? and will be a 2026 car?
 

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Still blowing up clutches, belts. Still no customer service. People are still popping motors trannies and driveshafts. CVS are still a problem too.
That sounds like every SXS. Shit breaks, it’s how easy is it to fix that is the difference. CanAm, RZR’s have an extended service network. Speed has a very limited service network.
 

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That sounds like every SXS. Shit breaks, it’s how easy is it to fix that is the difference. CanAm, RZR’s have an extended service network. Speed has a very limited service network.
Exactly,

Clutches for these are like 5k from speed. Ouch!

They all have problems just speed has more for how few units are out there.

Aftermarket is slowing fixing some of these
 

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I'm a shop that will work on them (transmissions and front diffs)
Sean can you get parts to service or rebuild the Speed trans or front differential? Also you have mentioned on RDC that you don’t think the bearings originally spec’ed are being used. If someone wanted to bring you a trans to get the “Ritchie prep” to it. Can you get the good bearings and do all the things you did at Weddle?

Recently it’s been said that Speed is not even opening up the broken transmissions and are just doing full replacements, and that the broken Transmissions are being sent back to Asia. (Assume for some sort of credit?) This has some wondering if Speed will even offer internal parts to rebuild or service the trans & difs?
 

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Sean can you get parts to service or rebuild the Speed trans or front differential? Also you have mentioned on RDC that you don’t think the bearings originally spec’ed are being used. If someone wanted to bring you a trans to get the “Ritchie prep” to it. Can you get the good bearings and do all the things you did at Weddle?

Recently it’s been said that Speed is not even opening up the broken transmissions and are just doing full replacements, and that the broken Transmissions are being sent back to Asia. (Assume for some sort of credit?) This has some wondering if Speed will even offer internal parts to rebuild or service the trans & difs?

To my knowledge any major failures of engines or trans actually get shipped to North Carolina to the race shop where they are disassembled and see what went wrong.

RD
 

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To my knowledge any major failures of engines or trans actually get shipped to North Carolina to the race shop where they are disassembled and see what went wrong.

RD
That was so 2023. lol. I’m told and what customers who have had trans, dif, clutches, driveshaft failures are saying, That Speed is just replacing the failed part. The bad parts get put in a bin or pallet and those are being shipped back to Hisun. It’s probably how Speed is getting refunded for warranty failures.

I’m told some engines get sent to NC to open up and inspected if it’s unknown what caused the failure. But I’m guessing with known issues like the timing chain failures as of late, those too are getting shipped back to Hisun for credit.
 

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Speed car out selling houses! lol

 
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Speed car out selling houses! lol



Thats great!
 

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So without reading 200 pages of this particular speed thread, what car are we on for delivery? Weren’t there something like 20,000 pre-orders 4 years ago?

I’m not bashing. I’m just trying to see what the facts are after watching this latest RG video discussing car 761.

 
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So without reading 200 pages of this particular speed thread, what car are we on for delivery? Weren’t there something like 20,000 pre-orders war years ago?

I’m not bashing. I’m just trying to see what the facts are after watching this latest RG video discussing car 761.

4,000 pre-orders plus minus.
 

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OK, so there were 4000 pre-orders, I thought i read it was more like 20,000. Does anyone know what the total amount of outstanding orders are as of today? How long have most of those pre-order people been waiting, on average, since they placed their deposit? How much longer will they be waiting?

The reason I ask is, they make all these little videos about oil changes and doing this and doing that, how they placed in some race no one is going to race in themselves, but none of it matters if you placed an order four years ago, and you’re gonna be waiting another three years to get your car.

If they’d like to inspire potential new buyers like myself, they need to ramp up their production and deliveries. Is that in the cards? With tariffs, might they move their production from Asia back to the homeland?
 
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