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[CANUCK007]

Does a spartan chassis have a model with ifs? My chassis is a power glide

 

[RCDave2]

The power glide chassis has ifs

 

[RiverDave]

The def shit isn’t that big of a deal.. mine has a huge tank. I fill it and forget about it for a year then ya fill it again

 

[FROGMAN524]

The def shit isn’t that big of a deal.. mine has a huge tank. I fill it and forget about it for a year then ya fill it again

My 2020 Dmax has DEF. First truck I haven’t deleted and have never had an issue at 103,000 miles from new.

 

[phuggit]

This thread makes me want a trailer/toy hauler to avoid all the headaches.

We just sold our Super C on the S2RV chassis due to ongoing DEF issues. We plan on getting into a fifth wheel toyhauler. Much less to worry about maintenance wise. If anyone has an S2RV chassis RV and wants a DEF simulator, let me know and I'll be glad to pay it forward.

 

[Singleton]

We just sold our Super C on the S2RV chassis due to ongoing DEF issues. We plan on getting into a fifth wheel toyhauler. Much less to worry about maintenance wise. If anyone has an S2RV chassis RV and wants a DEF simulator, let me know and I'll be glad to pay it forward.

While my S2RV+ has been humming along without issues, I would be interested in that simulator. Having a backup is never a bad idea

 

[monkeyswrench]

Does a spartan chassis have a model with ifs? My chassis is a power glide

I know the Spartan K2, and current "K3" are IFS...biggest damn A-Arms I've seen I don't know about the older, or if there's a current equivalent of, the Mountain Master chassis. I'm pretty sure that's the non-tag version.

 

[FROGMAN524]

 

[monkeyswrench]

American Coach, or Dream...whatever they are, have the DEF on the left...20+ feet away from the fill, but at least there. It's not Spartan I believe that places the tank, it's probably stuffed wherever they can fit it building the coach.

 

[wallnutz]

Well that's a bitch and the def location is too...

 

[pixrthis]

Our fleet mechanic has asked that we don’t use DEF from a pump in any of the trucks owned by vendors that we know personally.

 

[Singleton]

Our fleet mechanic has asked that we don’t use DEF from a pump in any of the trucks owned by vendors that we know personally.

I have heard this multiple times.
3 Freightliner services centers have told me, if you like your RV, only use bottles. If you use it from a tank, don’t fill up before stopping for 2-3 weeks, especially in colder climates. They all stated, it has something to do with the station tank pump behind located towards the bottom of tank and the pump picking up crystals.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Think I can swing 40% off on this bad boy?

2025 Newmar Dutch Star 4340 16250

New 2025 Class A motorhome for sale at North Trail RV Center in Fort Myers, Florida. Come see it for yourself at our state-of-the-art dealership today!

www.northtrailrv.com

 

[Cooter01]

Think I can swing 40% off on this bad boy?

2025 Newmar Dutch Star 4340 16250

New 2025 Class A motorhome for sale at North Trail RV Center in Fort Myers, Florida. Come see it for yourself at our state-of-the-art dealership today!

www.northtrailrv.com

I would start at 50%, easier for you to give them more money

 

[FROGMAN524]

I would start at 50%, easier for you to give them more money

Dude offered me 23% off. Grinding away as we speak.

 

[Thing One]

Dude offered me 23% off. Grinding away as we speak.

Keep us in the loop, curious where they are now with discounts off MSRP.

 

[Singleton]

Dude offered me 23% off. Grinding away as we speak.

25% until it sits on the lot and 2026’s start hitting the lot. Then 30-35% is lowest they go.
Might get to 40%, if you finance through them. Refinance or pay it off after 6 months.

 

[Cooter01]

Dude offered me 23% off. Grinding away as we speak.

Most I get off is 40% usually with the unit sitting on the lot and the new years hitting the lot. September/October I find the best deals on new or the last 2 weeks in December. Have you seen if there were any 1 year old models out there? Usually those are 45-55% off depending on how bad the seller needs to dump the unit.

 

[FROGMAN524]

25% until it sits on the lot and 2026’s start hitting the lot. Then 30-35% is lowest they go.
Might get to 40%, if you finance through them. Refinance or pay it off after 6 months.

I don’t wanna wait and miss the entire summer. if I place an order now they’re saying 4 to 6 months

 

[Singleton]

I don’t wanna wait and miss the entire summer. if I place an order now they’re saying 4 to 6 months

Discount on a customer order will never be as good as the discount you will get on a floored unit,

 

[mooseknuckles]

Don’t think they make an M2 Super C…

Renegade offered multiple models on the M2 with an ISL including the Verona 40vbh, which is a bunkhouse.

 

[Singleton]

Renegade offered multiple models on the M2 with an ISL including the Verona 40vbh, which is a bunkhouse.

Correct.
The Valencia is on the S2RV+ chassis - ISB
The Verona / Verona LE is on the M2106+chassis - Cummins® L9
The Explorer is on the Cascadia 116- Detroit® DD13
Classic‘s can be built on a Freightliner® Cascadia®, Volvo® VNR/VNL, Western Star®, and Peterbilt® Chassis
XL is built on the Cascadia 126 or Western Star 57X - Detroit® DD16

I went Valencia on the S2RV+. Did not need to tow 20k (12k works for me - 3rd gear pulls the grades at speed), wanted propane for cooking, more counter space by stove, and did not like the additional 45-75k in price jumping up to a Verona.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Renegade offered multiple models on the M2 with an ISL including the Verona 40vbh, which is a bunkhouse.

I’ve been looking at the Verona but you lose a lot with the front end and it’s a straight axle which kills the ride and turning radius.

 

[rush1]

We have a 05 Dutchstar, got it with 16K miles on it, 100% garage kept. It has a 370 ISL, that has been flawless However pick where you want to throw your money at..
Slide toppers replaced, tires replaced, gaskets on the roof AC units replaced, roof re-coated, batteries replaced, 3 slide motors replaced, 2 slide controllers replaced, sewage valve replaced, Cat Generator has a coolant leak and voltage regulator is bad and they can't find a replacement so possiblylooking at a new Onan generator $$, Air Bags are next to be replaced, and a idler pulley on the motor... not to mention the paint is starting to check...and we have to deal with that
Also old motorhome parts are very hard to come buy, so we always buy spares. Currently looking for headlights as the old ones are not sealed and condensation builds in them...
Other than that it's bad ass! And while the motor is reliable, other things can be challenging...

Flight Systems

www.flightsystems.com

Go to this company Flight systems for Onan and a lot of other generator boards, if they don't have it they are capable of rebuilding your controller . I've had them rebuild a lot of circuit boards over the years.

 

[rush1]

Does a spartan chassis have a model with ifs? My chassis is a power glide

Yes most of all of there chassis are IFS /

Spartan RV Chassis - Class A Motorhome Chassis Manufacturer

Class A RV chassis by Spartan RV Chassis are engineered to deliver a superior ride and better handling. Want the best Class A chassis on the market? This is it.

spartanrvchassis.com

 

[HST4ME]

Buddy parents have a very rarely used one for sale. Pretty sure it has a pre emissions 9 liter Cummins/Allison deal.

 

[Singleton]

I’ve been looking at the Verona but you lose a lot with the front end and it’s a straight axle which kills the ride and turning radius.

Turning radius is actually better than you think. I have the Valencia and it turns better than I was expecting.
Verona or Valencia you need to do a few suspension upgrades. MCU’s in the rear and then HD King shocks. I am having both done in July. Verona did not offer the overhead bunk until 22 as an option. Found one in Houston Texas, but the interior was dark grey and dark wood - felt claustrophobic inside.

Front seats spin 270. We use the passenger seat option at camp once turned. works well. Driver seats stays, but its used for storage. Works well. Between the cab curtains, heat-shield interior shades and the thermal insulated curtains, the heat from the cab is almost zero. Have an exterior cover as well, that we use when parked for a week. Friends with a DP always complain about the heat from the windshield.

Last thing to think about. What will your wife drive in an emergency. My wife liked driving the Renegade vs the DP. She said it was like a driving a big truck. I also found out the S2RV/M2 are crash tested, so insurance is less.

 

[CANUCK007]

Yes most of all of there chassis are IFS /

Spartan RV Chassis - Class A Motorhome Chassis Manufacturer

Class A RV chassis by Spartan RV Chassis are engineered to deliver a superior ride and better handling. Want the best Class A chassis on the market? This is it.

spartanrvchassis.com

Wonder what years? My past 08 Newmar 40 ventana did not

 

[HST4ME]

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[dirtracer]

Flight Systems

www.flightsystems.com

Go to this company Flight systems for Onan and a lot of other generator boards, if they don't have it they are capable of rebuilding your controller . I've had them rebuild a lot of circuit boards over the years.

Very Cool - Thanks Rush 1

 

[FROGMAN524]

Turning radius is actually better than you think. I have the Valencia and it turns better than I was expecting.
Verona or Valencia you need to do a few suspension upgrades. MCU’s in the rear and then HD King shocks. I am having both done in July. Verona did not offer the overhead bunk until 22 as an option. Found one in Houston Texas, but the interior was dark grey and dark wood - felt claustrophobic inside.

Front seats spin 270. We use the passenger seat option at camp once turned. works well. Driver seats stays, but its used for storage. Works well. Between the cab curtains, heat-shield interior shades and the thermal insulated curtains, the heat from the cab is almost zero. Have an exterior cover as well, that we use when parked for a week. Friends with a DP always complain about the heat from the windshield.

Last thing to think about. What will your wife drive in an emergency. My wife liked driving the Renegade vs the DP. She said it was like a driving a big truck. I also found out the S2RV/M2 are crash tested, so insurance is less.

This is a contender. A lot cheaper than the DS 4340 but less room and features, I’m not sure if miss for the $300,000 difference.

New 2025 Renegade Verona 40VBH in Belton, MO - Super C RV

Explore the 2025 Renegade Verona 40VBH at Transwest in Belton, MO, along with dozens of other Super C RVs. Call for details!

www.transwest.com

What can I expect off? 25-30%?

 

[Bullhead bully]

That the year Allegro Bus we own. Solid coach!

Yes, it was the best. We really loved it.

8.9L Cummins. Mine makes 425hp and 1,250tq

You are correct 8.9 ISL 425

 

[Singleton]

This is a contender. A lot cheaper than the DS 4340 but less room and features, I’m not sure if miss for the $300,000 difference.

New 2025 Renegade Verona 40VBH in Belton, MO - Super C RV

Explore the 2025 Renegade Verona 40VBH at Transwest in Belton, MO, along with dozens of other Super C RVs. Call for details!

www.transwest.com

What can I expect off? 25-30%?

25% is max. Renegade does a good job of limiting production to keep the purchase price up.
SportTruckRV in Chandler is good. I have heard good and more bad about Transwest.

 

[Done-it-again]

This is a contender. A lot cheaper than the DS 4340 but less room and features, I’m not sure if miss for the $300,000 difference.

New 2025 Renegade Verona 40VBH in Belton, MO - Super C RV

Explore the 2025 Renegade Verona 40VBH at Transwest in Belton, MO, along with dozens of other Super C RVs. Call for details!

www.transwest.com

What can I expect off? 25-30%?

You need to see one in person. For us the room inside is limited vs a DP.

 

[yz450mm]

not mine

 

[PRORACER7474]

The bath and a half with bunks seems to be a newer thing, that's for sure. The '04 Travel Supreme I've been messing with is a Spartan K2 chassis. Funny you mention remodeling, that's what this guy is thinking. He'd like to go with more modern colors and millwork. He has an unfair advantage though, he owns a cabinet company, and knows his way around woodwork. As for chassis and motors, the model year of the coach can be one, and even as much as two years different from the drivetrain. The Spartan chassis drive, and ride, really nice. To me, much better than the Freightliner chassis. The drawback, some of the steering and suspension components are Spartan only, which means they can be pricey, and certified shops are a bit scarce. The advantage though, Spartan themselves will actually help you with email questions and info.

As pointed out above, DEF motors need to be worked regularly. This was one of the main issues with all the little diesel trucks. People would by them up here for running around, and Home Depot runs. We don't have any real highway speed areas for miles. Big problems. Honestly, it's the same for the newer John Deere and Kubota tractors. New property owners buy these new units to tend 5 and 10 acre properties. They idle them around, never building any heat. The DEF systems need a certain temperature to do their thing. If you do get a coach that has all this stuff, I suggest you get a scanner that can check codes, and also force a regen. It is nice to have, and can save you a bunch of headaches.

travel supreme is the same as a Entegra. they went belly up in 2009 and the employees bought it and changed the name

 

[PRORACER7474]

late model Newmars have def filler and fuel fillers on both sides

 

[boatnam2]

Buddy just picked up a trailer in Alvarado TX, grant it the cost of 1 wheel of the rig you're probably looking at, but they do like 500 units a month currently, might try them MHRV i think its called.

 

[boatnam2]

its mhsrv,com I likr thid one, 1.3 mill short though. https://mhsrv.com/2024-foretravel-l...-label-edition-used-diesel-pusher-tx-i3753110

 

[bonesfab]

This is a contender. A lot cheaper than the DS 4340 but less room and features, I’m not sure if miss for the $300,000 difference.

New 2025 Renegade Verona 40VBH in Belton, MO - Super C RV

Explore the 2025 Renegade Verona 40VBH at Transwest in Belton, MO, along with dozens of other Super C RVs. Call for details!

www.transwest.com

What can I expect off? 25-30%?

I like the way you can lock the kids up in the bunk beds. genius.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Buddy just picked up a trailer in Alvarado TX, grant it the cost of 1 wheel of the rig you're probably looking at, but they do like 500 units a month currently, might try them MHRV i think its called.

They’re not a newer dealer so I checked with them already, but if I do go with the renegade or something else, I’ll be talking to them because they seem pretty aggressive

 

[rush1]

Wonder what years? My past 08 Newmar 40 ventana did not

it depends on the model of chassis

 

[rush1]

travel supreme is the same as a Entegra. they went belly up in 2009 and the employees bought it and changed the name

Owned by Jayco now

 

[28Eliminator]

Owned by Jayco now

Which of course is owned by Thor.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I like the way you can lock the kids up in the bunk beds. genius.

"Kid Kennels"...keep toddlers and grandkids in safe locations

 

[Singleton]

They’re not a newer dealer so I checked with them already, but if I do go with the renegade or something else, I’ll be talking to them because they seem pretty aggressive

mhsrv is not an authorized Renegade dealer.
One of the best Renegade dealers is located in PHX. SportTruckRV has been solid to work with on upgrades for my Renegade.

 

[Jay Dub]

This thread reminds me to not buy an RV. Just rent it for the month and return it.

 

[wzuber]

This thread makes me want a trailer/toy hauler to avoid all the headaches.

My conclusions as well from moho's to new trucks. Crazy to think of spending that kind of coin on them.and then having to deal with the ridiculous emissions issue too. Down time in the shop with poor results to boot is the biggest turnoff.

 

[Singleton]

This thread reminds me to not buy an RV. Just rent it for the month and return it.

If you not using an RV at least once a month, renting is better.
We keep the RV in Havasu during boating season (Aug - Oct for us this year). So that offsets a huge Havasu expense for us. We are out in the RV at least every 3rd weekend. Purchasing made more sense, plus I needed the tax write off

 

[Mrs. Riley1]

Where is the best place to sell a used rv these days? Getting ready to list ours.