Who is thinking of leaving CA...and where to?

[HolyMoly]

My wife and I talk about it daily. We are native CA people. But, this state just keeps getting worse and worse and unless there is some kind of hostile take over, this state will be screwed for many many years. We often talked about retiring somewhere else as we are attracted to other areas, but our disgust of CA is growing strong.

So, we are starting to talk seriously about where we can go, and like many people, work is an issue. I'm a little more flexible as I work from home, and many of my customers are also leaving the state. But, I still have to be located in the south west, within an hour or so of a reasonable airport. Our favorite option is the St. George, UT area. Las Vegas is driving distance as that is where many of my customers are going.

How many are talking about it and at what level?

Post where you would like to go if you could get the work.

 

[Deleted Account]

I thought you already moved to Nevada?

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Since my CHP attempt fell through.... Its a DEFINITE possibility for me. I would just need to decide what I would want to do for a living and find something before hand and all that.

 

[Scott E]

If I were to leave I would look to go to AZ, Phoenix or Prescott, or like you, St. George, UT...

 

[Abc123]

Go to Mexico:thumbsup

 

[harleypauls]

If and when I can, I will relocate to the Colorado Springs, CO area. great hunting and fishing. The problem is the work part....

 

[DaveC]

I just moved into an "all white" neighborhood. Which is ironic because I'm not "all-white." The neighbors keep grumbling about something but I can't make it out...

 

[djunkie]

Well until they put a port somewhere other than the coast I don't believe I'll be leaving anytime soon.

 

[HolyMoly]

I thought you already moved to Nevada?

LOL Well, working in NV and living in CA is not the same as being completely out of the state. It is almost as if I never left.

 

[rivergames]

I lived in St. George utah for 8 months. Beautiful area with lots of awesome lakes. Only problem is getting booze

 

[OCMerrill]

We like St George, Hurricane, and even Cedar City if you want to stretch another hour.

 

[Bobby V]

Nope...Plan on keeping the Yorba Linda and Havasu house when I retire in 6 years. I planned my retirement very well.

 

[Luckie Stiff]

As soon as I can find work, we're gone, heading for either Phoenix area, or Austin TX area.

 

[TPC]

We loved Oregon, Maryland,, and Austin, Texas.
Parker is still tops too.

A place with no State income tax is a BFD when you retire.
11% raise in our book.

Friends moved to Sand Point Idaho to get away from the abandon shopping carts and graffiti.
They have August and winter.

 

[TPC]

I lived in St. George utah for 8 months. Beautiful area with lots of awesome lakes. Only problem is getting booze

Didn't those blue laws just change?

 

[Cole Trickle]

We shall see......

2 Things could happen in the next year

1-Nada helps me modify my current loan and I keep my house and stay for a little longer...

2- Loan mod is a no go and I stop making payments and saving every dime for when my house is either short sold or we are booted.


I'm ready to leave. There is a chance that my wife can job transfer to the Phoenix area and I have some feelers out for work.

Shall see......I am no where near being in love with this state.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

Hell yeah. If I could make a profit on my homes right now I'd be gone. Not telling where though. Don't want to take anybody with me but my family.

 

[HolyMoly]

I lived in St. George utah for 8 months. Beautiful area with lots of awesome lakes. Only problem is getting booze

Booze does not play a big part in our lives. Like the idea of being a few hours from Powell, Mead and Mohave!

We like St George, Hurricane, and even Cedar City if you want to stretch another hour.

I agree. That whole area looks like a good candidate. They get more of a winter than we do now, but my wife and kids would love that. Also, lots of homes on acreage which is what we want.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

We shall see......

2 Things could happen in the next year

1-Nada helps me modify my current loan and I keep my house and stay for a little longer...

2- Loan mod is a no go and I stop making payments and saving every dime for when my house is either short sold or we are booted.


I'm ready to leave. There is a chance that my wife can job transfer to the Phoenix area and I have some feelers out for work.

Shall see......I am no where near being in love with this state.

I have a serious question. What is the allure of the Phoenix area. I mean beyond better gun laws and stuff like that. The local lakes are better than here but to really boat you still have to drive 3 hours to Havasu or Mohave or something. It's getting to be pretty crowded. Houses are cheaper but not by much anymore. Crime isn't very low. Basically it all boils down to my last point. Everybody is leaving California and going there. The problem with that besides crowding is people leave to get away from the crap here but take the crap with them. I looked at Idaho for about 2 seconds until I realized a bunch of Californians are going there too. F that.

 

[Wheeler]

Nope...Plan on keeping the Yorba Linda and Havasu house when I retire in 6 years. I planned my retirement very well.

I can't blame you, I'm thinking of moving back to Yorba Linda, just as soon as they dump the Brea Pd.!

 

[RitcheyRch]

Ditto that excet for the Austin, TX part. We wold love to be in the Phoenix, AZ area but there is currently no aerospace work there for me. Right now the hot places for work in my industry are Charleson, SC and Mobile, Alabama.

As soon as I can find work, we're gone, heading for either Phoenix area, or Austin TX area.

 

[Ziggy]

Weather and biz is what is keeping me in SoCa...........We've talked about having more than one place we'd like to stay.

 

[HavasuHank]

i have no intentions of leaving so cal ... until we make the move to the big island of hawaii. that is the only place i would consider moving to.

we dont know when it'll occur, but it will.

 

[HolyMoly]

I have a serious question. What is the allure of the Phoenix area. I mean beyond better gun laws and stuff like that. The local lakes are better than here but to really boat you still have to drive 3 hours to Havasu or Mohave or something. It's getting to be pretty crowded. Houses are cheaper but not by much anymore. Crime isn't very low. Basically it all boils down to my last point. Everybody is leaving California and going there. The problem with that besides crowding is people leave to get away from the crap here but take the crap with them. I looked at Idaho for about 2 seconds until I realized a bunch of Californians are going there too. F that.

I'm like you...I don't get the Phoenix attraction. And I've spent a lot of time in the Phoenix area. Even had my truck broken into in Mesa.

Idaho kind of looks like the destination for the yuppie type of crowd, kind of like Seattle 15 years ago. And you are right...they bring their crap with them. They don't like to be controlled, but they immediately want to make the new place a better place to live. Pisses the locals off something fierce...and usually tell the new people, if you want to live like you are in CA, then stay in CA.

 

[Ziggy]

I'm like you...I don't get the Phoenix attraction. And I've spent a lot of time in the Phoenix area. Even had my truck broken into in Mesa.

Idaho kind of looks like the destination for the yuppie type of crowd, kind of like Seattle 15 years ago. And you are right...they bring their crap with them. They don't like to be controlled, but they immediately want to make the new place a better place to live. Pisses the locals off something fierce...and usually tell the new people, if you want to live like you are in CA, then stay in CA.

Just like Oregonians told 'em in the 60's and 70's

 

[Cole Trickle]

I have a serious question. What is the allure of the Phoenix area. I mean beyond better gun laws and stuff like that. The local lakes are better than here but to really boat you still have to drive 3 hours to Havasu or Mohave or something. It's getting to be pretty crowded. Houses are cheaper but not by much anymore. Crime isn't very low. Basically it all boils down to my last point. Everybody is leaving California and going there. The problem with that besides crowding is people leave to get away from the crap here but take the crap with them. I looked at Idaho for about 2 seconds until I realized a bunch of Californians are going there too. F that.

If I was set $$$ wise and close to retirement I would probably look for some acerage and a house away from everyone. I could hoonestly live about anywhere but our family is in So Cal,No Cal and Utah. If we moved to say Texas, Tennesee or Iowa where my wife might be able to job transfer we are leaving our families behind. We struggle to see our parents/family now and if we moved more than say 3-5 hours away they would never be able to see us unless we flew back.

Home prices/rent is good in phoenix are right now and work would be better than say montana.

Politics,taxes and fees are rediculous and show no sign of slowing....

 

[angiebaby]

I've already put in for my Montana teaching credential. Jeff's job is on the internet or traveling all over the country anyway, so that doesn't really matter. I've also seen several jobs available that I'm qualified for at the state and national park level. It's just a matter of finishing up the remodel so that our house is sellable. Hoping to list in May. As soon as it sells, we are outta here. We've been looking at properties and jobs up there for two years now. Been up there 4 times, once in the winter. Total of 10 weeks so far. Every time it gets harder and harder to come back to California. Hopefully next time I go up there, I don't have to come back except to visit mom and dad.

Katrina (our daughter) just got accepted to Montana State University. She'll leave in early August. She's hoping to hear from University of Montana though. That's her first choice.

I can't wait to live somewhere pretty, with nice people.

 

[WATERDOG]

Almost surprised I'm the first, but I'm looking to move to Havasu. Looking at a business for sale next Monday AM.

 

[HolyMoly]

I've already put in for my Montana teaching credential. Jeff travels for work anyway, so that doesn't really matter. I've also seen several jobs available that I'm qualified for at the state and national park level. It's just a matter of finishing up the remodel so that our house is sellable. Hoping to list in May. As soon as it sells, we are outta here. We've been looking at properties and jobs up there for two years now. Been up there 4 times, once in the winter. Total of 10 weeks so far. Every time it gets harder and harder to come back to California. Hopefully next time I go up there, I don't have to come back except to visit mom and dad.

Katrina (our daughter) just got accepted to Montana State University. She'll leave in early August. She's hoping to hear from University of Montana though. That's her first choice.

My wife's first choice if money wasn't an issue, is Montana. She has a ton of family up in White Fish. The cost of living is actually pretty high in that area because of the resorts. If I could pull of working from home up there, I would.

 

[angiebaby]

My wife's first choice if money wasn't an issue, is Montana. She has a ton of family up in White Fish. The cost of living is actually pretty high in that area because of the resorts. If I could pull of working from home up there, I would.

That's where we are moving. Jeez! You're not gonna be my neighbor up there too are you? Stalker!

 

[coz]

i have no intentions of leaving so cal ... until we make the move to the big island of hawaii. that is the only place i would consider moving to.

we dont know when it'll occur, but it will.

I'll meet ya at Banyans bro......that's my retirement plans too, unless something happens sooner :thumbsup I like Kahalu'u, Lymans, Lighthouse and Pine Trees too......Kona rocks! :thumbsup

The local lakes are better than here but to really boat you still have to drive 3 hours to Havasu or Mohave or something.

Not sure what you mean by to really boat? have you been to any of the phoenix lakes? I was born and raised in socal and to really boat there you have to go to the river IMO.

 

[Outnumbered]

I have a serious question. What is the allure of the Phoenix area. I mean beyond better gun laws and stuff like that. The local lakes are better than here but to really boat you still have to drive 3 hours to Havasu or Mohave or something. It's getting to be pretty crowded. Houses are cheaper but not by much anymore. Crime isn't very low. Basically it all boils down to my last point. Everybody is leaving California and going there. The problem with that besides crowding is people leave to get away from the crap here but take the crap with them. I looked at Idaho for about 2 seconds until I realized a bunch of Californians are going there too. F that.

Tell me where you can buy a 3,200 sqft house with a pool and this view for $325k in SoCal

 

[BoatCop]

I left California for the last time in 1987, after living in the South Bay (Hawthorne, Manhattan Beach) San Francisco, Ventura and San Diego area (Santee).

Been in Parker, ever since.

The Missus and I will retire in about 5 or 6 years, and then head north. Eastern Oregon or Northern Nevada, depending on which one has the best tax advantages for us then.

 

[Outnumbered]

How about riding like this within an hour of your house?

 

[HolyMoly]

That's where we are moving. Jeez! You're not gonna be my neighbor up there too are you? Stalker!

I promise to visit you guys twice as much as I do down here.

You know where our current home is. It is almost ideal for us, except it is in CA.

But you experienced personally the crap CA will do for money. They ruined parts of your property for a builder that left them holding the bag on acres of semi developed lots and an unfinished road that needs to be rebuilt since the builder(s) "forgot" to put a drain system in and "forgot" to meet code on 90% of the road.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

Tell me where you can buy a 3,200 sqft house with a pool and this view for $325k in SoCal

Touche but I'm not saying SoCal is great. I am saying it sucks and Californians are making AZ suck. Keep going somewhere else and that house and view will be cheaper with no Cali BS.

 

[Outnumbered]

Touche but I'm not saying SoCal is great. I am saying it sucks and Californians are making AZ suck. Keep going somewhere else and that house and view will be cheaper with no Cali BS.

Yep, AZ is becoming Kaliforniacated but it is still far better than where I came from. I think it is just the whole liberal shift of the country. Pretty hard to escape it anywhere. Hell, look at the elected officials in DC. That says it al right there.:thumbsdown


Oh, and just to be fair, that house was selling over $700k back in the land rush of 2005 when all the Kalifornians ran the prices up

 

[WTRR]

I've met over a dozen people this summer that had moved from California to Benton County in TN where my river house is. The whole county population is less than 17,000. They seemed like normal gun loving nuts like us so we welcomed them with our normal southern hospitality. This past weekend my cousin called and wanted to know who put up my metal boat building. Said she had a couple from California that had just bought 70 acres and a house and wanted to put up a metal horse shed. Said they were just south of my place. Looks like a bunch of you folks are moving south...

 

[riverman140]

I would have to say move to arizona! low key life out here, id say phoenix or scottsdale. Scottsdale is a little more upper class. only problem is Phoenix is starting to look like LA :grumble: Too many people and starting to get smog...:grumble: ill tell ya the I-10 during rush hour is worse than the 91 on a friday night on the start of a holiday weekend..

 

[Yellowboat]

I'm still debating on moving to OR. if it was not for the fact that I've been getting lots of calls latly, I'd already be gone.

 

[coz]

ill tell ya the I-10 during rush hour is worse than the 91 on a friday night on the start of a holiday weekend..

Not even close :thumbsdown I'm from Yorba Linda and the 91 was the only way to and from there and the Phoenix area traffic is like the autobahn compaired to Ca. traffic

 

[TPC]

Nice place. :thumbsup

 

[Hypnautic]

Packed up 3 years ago in January. The move was not because we disliked California, rather it was an oppurtunity that we took full advantage of. Sure, there was the small talk like; if you could move where would you want to go? We still own our home in Placentia and plan to keep it. Now my wife and I say how happy we are because were not in CA. We are in Henderson NV now and not planning on leaving any time soon. Great neighborhood, excellent school and school funding. There is little to no traffic, we can hear the coyotes howling at the moon from the mountains behind our home and I can be riding in less than 30 seconds. Yes it gets hot, then in fall it gets windy and winter can be cold.. I think those are called seasons. California has them also but there all within 10* of each other.

The other areas you mentioned are very nice as well, I personaly think any move out of CA will advance your quality of life.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

I've met over a dozen people this summer that had moved from California to Benton County in TN where my river house is. The whole county population is less than 17,000. They seemed like normal gun loving nuts like us so we welcomed them with our normal southern hospitality. This past weekend my cousin called and wanted to know who put up my metal boat building. Said she had a couple from California that had just bought 70 acres and a house and wanted to put up a metal horse shed. Said they were just south of my place. Looks like a bunch of you folks are moving south...

Yep. Nashville area is where we are trying to go. Hopefully any other Californians that come will be those who believe what our founding fathers believed... It would be so much easier if I had just been born there.

 

[riverman140]

Not even close :thumbsdown I'm from Yorba Linda and the 91 was the only way to and from there and the Phoenix area traffic is like the autobahn compaired to Ca. traffic

by phoenix i mean I-17 to brodway, dead stop, or extream slow and go.
i would have to say its about the same. (not in distance) it seems like with in this past month traffic has gotten 10 times worse.

when i lived in irvine, it seemed like the traffic was bad up until you hit green river road. then your breakin wind at 90

 

[HavasuWakecraftZR6]

You don't realize what liberty's and freedoms your missing until you leave California. Move to a FREE State. One preferably without income taxes. I left California in 2005 and will NEVER move back. I live in Texas now after living in Havasu for 3 years. Texas is GREAT! No income tax, great schools, roads, and a economy thats not in the crapper.

 

[mjc]

I would like to buy something for retirement in the Show Low area or just about anyplace between Williams and there. If I could find work I would be living in the Havasu place full time right now. Retirement is not that far away but i also need to be able to get out of my place in CA if the prices ever improve so i can buy something else.

 

[squirtnmyload]

phoenix is great for me. moved to prescott from pennsylvania 10 years ago. that place got old real quick so i moved down to the valley. been here ever since. i've lived in central phoenix, tempe, ahwatukee, mesa and now sun city/northwest peoria. loved every minute of it. if you love the outdoors then this is the state for you. and for whoever said we are "starting to get smog". did you just move here or something? lol. the brown cloud has been around for as long as i've been here.

 

[coz]

by phoenix i mean I-17 to brodway, dead stop, or extream slow and go.
i would have to say its about the same. (not in distance) it seems like with in this past month traffic has gotten 10 times worse.

when i lived in irvine, it seemed like the traffic was bad up until you hit green river road. then your breakin wind at 90

I agree with ya brutha! in just the 3 years I've been here It's changed quite a bit :thumbsdown

 

[PrimeCut]

Packed up 3 years ago in January. The move was not because we disliked California, rather it was an oppurtunity that we took full advantage of. Sure, there was the small talk like; if you could move where would you want to go? We still own our home in Placentia and plan to keep it. Now my wife and I say how happy we are because were not in CA. We are in Henderson NV now and not planning on leaving any time soon. Great neighborhood, excellent school and school funding. There is little to no traffic, we can hear the coyotes howling at the moon from the mountains behind our home and I can be riding in less than 30 seconds. Yes it gets hot, then in fall it gets windy and winter can be cold.. I think those are called seasons. California has them also but there all within 10* of each other.

The other areas you mentioned are very nice as well, I personaly think any move out of CA will advance your quality of life.

I agree, I love Henderson, I can still ride from the house, 15 minutes from the lake, only an hour from Needles. Even an hour from snow skiing/boarding on our mini mountain.