Who is thinking of leaving CA...and where to?

[djunkie]

All you people that wanna leave, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. :skull

 

[Bobby V]

Not even close :thumbsdown I'm from Yorba Linda and the 91 was the only way to and from there and the Phoenix area traffic is like the autobahn compaired to Ca. traffic

We have the toll roads and fast trac now.

 

[shawngr]

I lived in St. George utah for 8 months. Beautiful area with lots of awesome lakes. Only problem is getting booze

x2

 

[RJMsalespro]

I can't blame you, I'm thinking of moving back to Yorba Linda, just as soon as they dump the Brea Pd.!

I own a home in Yorba Linda and have been told we are on the brink of going back to the Sheriffs.

 

[RJMsalespro]

Yep. Nashville area is where we are trying to go. Hopefully any other Californians that come will be those who believe what our founding fathers believed... It would be so much easier if I had just been born there.

I like this

 

[coz]

We have the toll roads and fast trac now.

I've only been gone 3 years and I could see the 91 and toll road from my front porch and always thought evey night......why in the hell are these people paying to go as slow as the freeway.....especially going into corona, that toll road turn is a crawl until 11pm at night :smackhead

 

[Deleted Account]

LOL Well, working in NV and living in CA is not the same as being completely out of the state. It is almost as if I never left.

You have the plates...

 

[HolyMoly]

I've only been gone 3 years and I could see the 91 and toll road from my front porch and always thought evey night......why in the hell are these people paying to go as slow as the freeway.....especially going into corona, that toll road turn is a crawl until 11pm at night :smackhead

Because, you skipped almost 9 miles of crawling traffic. Many people don't know this, but fast trac will refund your toll if you take the toll road, and it is jammed. I've called several times, while stopped or slow and go on the fast trac lanes and they take care of it right there.

 

[djunkie]

The Governator passed a new law last week due to the budget crisis.

If you're going to move out of Kalifornia, make sure you take someone with you

Good thing is he won't be our Governor forever.

 

[Faceaz]

How about riding like this within an hour of your house?

Finally, we completely agree on something .

I've switched back and forth from Ca & Az my whole life. Grew up in Huntington, went to school in Flagstaff, lived in Phoenix a couple years, HB again for 7 & finally back to Phoenix.

I dread the thought of going back to HB - conjestion, traffic & actually weather are the main reasons. I'm 2 hrs door to door from the river, don't have to touch a freeway. Excellent local lakes, riding 10 minutes away, Jerome, Prescott & Sedona make great street bike rides or daily drive, 3,200 sqft house on the water for 360k, kart track is 10 minutes away, Monsoons, traffic isn't nearly as bad, an expectation of everyone to speak English isn't considered racist.

 

[ROC]

If I were to leave I would look to go to AZ, Phoenix or Prescott, or like you, St. George, UT...

A couple years ago we drove through Prescott?Precott Valley. I i9mmediately thought about living there, until...................

I drove by a horse farm/stable/race track deal and..........As We drove through I noticed some really nice horse property with nice white fencing along the highway. The fencing went on for miles and miles. Beautiful 2 inch steel tube that looked powdercoated. It was then that it dawned on me........I can't even afford this guys perimeter fencing, WTF am I doing thinking about living here?

Beautiful area though.

 

[Hypnautic]

All you people that wanna leave, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. :skull

Its not always like the way you put it. For many its "who dont want to stay"

For me, I prefer a neighborhood that when I leave my garage door open at night my neighbor comes over and closes it for me, not stealing everything I own.

 

[djunkie]

Its not always like the way you put it. For many its "who dont want to stay"

For me, I prefer a neighborhood that when I leave my garage door open at night my neighbor comes over and closes it for me, not stealing everything I own.

Thats how my neighborhood is. :thumbsup

 

[Bobby V]

Tell me where you can buy a 3,200 sqft house with a pool and this view for $325k in SoCal

At least for me the price of a house in AZ and my 2500 sq ft house here in Yorba Linda doesn't really apply in my case. We would have to take a major pay cut to move to AZ. :thumbsdown

 

[djunkie]

At least for me the price of a house in AZ and my 2500 sq ft house here in Yorba Linda doesn't really apply in my case. We would have to take a major pay cut to move to AZ. :thumbsdown

Huge pay cut, if you could even find work. Especially at your age.
For me it would be the weather that would kill me. I love that hot ass weather at the river but I sure as hell don't wanna live in it. I enjoy my $60/month electric bill. :thumbsup

 

[pronstar]

If I could replace my income I'd move in a hearbeat but there are no large advertising agencies in AZ...and certainly none with automaker clients. Sucks to be super-specialized in your profession.

 

[mbrown2]

As many know.. I have been back and forth many times.

We are back to AZ for the last time.

Can't afford to have a life in San Diego I want vs a life that I can have here on one income.

Love the weather and the ocean, love my family more.

AZ has so much to do and see. If you pick up a AZ Highways mag, you will see. Hell I have 15 years worth.

Now you are back? I thought you just moved back to Cali?....you move alot

 

[Jyruiz]

Henderson Nevada, I could probably transfer and my wife could probably find work as a teacher there pretty easy. And even though my wife is willing to try, I just can't see myself breaking their hearts, they have too many family and friend here, really good family and friends. I can deal with living here a lot easier than they would living away from everything they love.

 

[Lue]

For me, I prefer a neighborhood that when I leave my garage door open at night my neighbor comes over and closes it for me, not stealing everything I own.

Where exactly do you live? :skull

I've pondered the idea of Arizona. But then again, I would be walking away from everything I've known here all my life. That's a scary concept to me and my family.

 

[desertbird]

Well, how 'bout the state bumping up your income tax another 10%? Would that encourage more of us to leave?

Un-fukn-blvable

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2357699/posts

http://www.edd.ca.gov/payroll_taxes/2009_PIT_Schedules_Replaced.html

 

[HolyMoly]

For me it would be the weather that would kill me. I love that hot ass weather at the river but I sure as hell don't wanna live in it. I enjoy my $60/month electric bill. :thumbsup

Don't you live in a 800 sq ft home?

 

[YoPengo]

I just can't see myself breaking their hearts, they have too many family and friend here, really good family and friends. I can deal with living here a lot easier than they would living away from everything they love.

Very true. :thumbsup

Our plan is to pay off our small OC house (12 more years) Keep the Havasu house (paid for) and purchase one more (something with trees and on the water). We will just rotate as the seasons dictate.

 

[Some Kind Of Monster]

Stop talking up AZ. We don't need any more people here

 

[Hypnautic]

Where exactly do you live? :skull

I've pondered the idea of Arizona. But then again, I would be walking away from everything I've known here all my life. That's a scary concept to me and my family.

Not gonna tell you, unless you give me your address so I can get my shit back

My wife and I had the same hesitation about moving away from everything we know, family and friends. Then I was asked by a family member, How would you feel when you parents retire and live 6 months a year in Hawaii and 6 months in Oregon, your sister wants to move to Utah and you Aunts and Uncles want to move back to Hawaii. You would still be here in CA and passed up on a great oppuntunity. Plus, when you live in Henderson/Las Vegas everyone wants to come and visit you, of course its the guest room they really want.

 

[Riverratrob]

Heading to New Mexico (Rio Rancho) to start a new biz.Really cant afford a biz in cali anymore considering there gonna keep finding a way to stick it to the small biz owner.Land is cheap it has all 4 seasons ,casinos and butte lake is only 2 hrs away.

 

[wedge45]

I have a little over 5 years to go for my 32 year retirement from the City of LA...we are looking at southern Oregon, Medford to Grants Pass area, 4 seasons and Shasta Lake is just an hour or so south... either that or my wife has family in Washington, spread between Seattle and Spokane, I just need to Enjoy my retirement money.....and that's not in Cali ...:skull:skull

 

[mbrown2]

Yes back. But normally we don't move around a lot. I guess it took a few moves to figure out where we wanted to be. So now we replant in the same place we were already at. haha

Good luck....we are happy in AZ, but in reading your posts it you really seemed to enjoy the beach.....I could totally see someone being a Beach Sick if they lived here but enjoyed surfing and beach things...

BTW...Southwest $25 fares for the next two days if you need to get your beach fix...
Southwest Airlines offers Fares from as low as $25 for travel between Dec. 2 - Dec. 16, 2009 and Jan. 5 - Feb. 10, 2010. Tickets must be purchased between Oct 27 and Oct 29. Some restrictions apply, see site for details.

 

[coz]

Good luck....we are happy in AZ, but in reading your posts it you really seemed to enjoy the beach.....I could totally see someone being a Beach Sick if they lived here but enjoyed surfing and beach things...

BTW...Southwest $25 fares for the next two days if you need to get your beach fix...
Southwest Airlines offers Fares from as low as $25 for travel between Dec. 2 - Dec. 16, 2009 and Jan. 5 - Feb. 10, 2010. Tickets must be purchased between Oct 27 and Oct 29. Some restrictions apply, see site for details.

Have you seen the cost to ship boards these days? It's about $125 for a short trip and more depending on where you're going :thumbsdown It use to be free.

 

[whiteworks]

I plan on leaving California in a few weeks. going to Parker for the weekend.

I have a few buddies who have pulled the pin, One sold his pad and moved up to Meridian Idaho, He didn't want to raise his kids around here. He loves it but as he says its a $10 buck town (as in everyone makes $10.00 per hour) he is pulling in around $15.00 so he says they are doing OK. Another sold all his shit and moved to Hawaii and retired at 50. He was there about 8 months and got Island fever, Packed his bag, Locked his house, took a taxi to the airport and flew back standby. (wanted off that rock quick like) He came back for about a year, got a job at a local hardware store to have something to do and rented a room from a buddy. One day it dawned on him that he had a beautiful house in Hawaii and he was ready to go home. He's been back on the Island for a few years now.

 

[Gramps]

I lived in St. George utah for 8 months. Beautiful area with lots of awesome lakes. Only problem is getting booze

Mesquite is 1/2 hour down the road.

We like St George, Hurricane, and even Cedar City if you want to stretch another hour.

Lots of cheap real estate there right now.

 

[desertbird]

I don't think this increases your annual tax liability, just gets the money to the State faster so they can spend it faster. Fucking morons.

But if this will scare people in to moving out of State..so be it

True. For those that write an additional check to the state quarterly. For the rest that don't, often your state tax contribution goes down towards the end of the year. If they increase the witholding, that's just a bigger refund in April, or worse yet, a bigger IOU.

 

[RiverDiva]

I would pack up and leave tomorrow. I really am not interested in raising our childred here. I have never felt an attachment to California. Unfortunately Dave loves it here and truthfully I can't see him ever pulling the plug and heading out of town. I guess I can think of worse places to live than Carlsbad.

 

[BoatCop]

I've pondered the idea of Arizona. But then again, I would be walking away from everything I've known here all my life. That's a scary concept to me and my family.

You'd starve, Lue.


Not too many people out here have lawns. :skull

 

[VoodooMedMan]

I would pack up and leave tomorrow. I really am not interested in raising our childred here. I have never felt an attachment to California. Unfortunately Dave loves it here and truthfully I can't see him ever pulling the plug and heading out of town. I guess I can think of worse places to live than Carlsbad.

Anywhere that there is nothing but Coors Light in the fridge is a terrible place to live.

 

[TBI]

You'd starve, Lue.


Not too many people out here have lawns. :skull

 

[djunkie]

Don't you live in a 800 sq ft home?

900 sq. ft. And its worth more than a 2500 sq. ft home in Phoenix. The south Bay beach areas will always bring the high property values. We have the weather, everything a person could need is around here. And I'm a whopping 10 minutes from work. Ya I don't think I'm going anywhere anytime soon. If people wanna leave then I say "Good luck and take someone with you". :thumbsup

 

[Ziggy]

900 sq. ft. And its worth more than a 2500 sq. ft home in Phoenix. The south Bay beach areas will always bring the high property values. We have the weather, everything a person could need is around here. And I'm a whopping 10 minutes from work. Ya I don't think I'm going anywhere anytime soon. If people wanna leave then I say "Good luck and take someone with you". :thumbsup

According to the experts, Az will be the coastline one day...then they'll have ports for you to work at

 

[djunkie]

According to the experts, Az will be the coastline one day...then they'll have ports for you to work at

If thats the case I already have a house there. Until then, L.A. is where I'm gonna stay.

 

[460]

I'm like you...I don't get the Phoenix attraction. And I've spent a lot of time in the Phoenix area. Even had my truck broken into in Mesa.

Idaho kind of looks like the destination for the yuppie type of crowd, kind of like Seattle 15 years ago. And you are right...they bring their crap with them. They don't like to be controlled, but they immediately want to make the new place a better place to live. Pisses the locals off something fierce...and usually tell the new people, if you want to live like you are in CA, then stay in CA.

So thats where the little people outfits came from when the guys got back . HUH, small world

 

[460]

You'd starve, Lue.


Not too many people out here have lawns. :skull

I just spit my food all over the place. Awwwwww hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[HolyMoly]

So thats where the little people outfits came from when the guys got back . HUH, small world

Must have been another midget, or your guys are holding back on you. My golf clubs were stolen.

 

[C-2]

We recently had some friends move to Texas after having checked it out earlier this year....as of last week, they can't stand Texas and are now moving to Montana. We'll see what happens, I'm guessing they'll be back to Cali lickety split after winter.

We're staying, Cali is still a great place to live. The only other place we would move to is Kauai, but it's kind of slow over there, not sure we could stand it.

The rest of ya' all's - CYA!

 

[460]

Must have been another midget, or your guys are holding back on you. My golf clubs were stolen.

They said something about those. Said they looked like little girls clubs so they gave um to the 9 year old across the street. GO FIGURE

 

[angiebaby]

900 sq. ft. And its worth more than a 2500 sq. ft home in Phoenix. The south Bay beach areas will always bring the high property values. We have the weather, everything a person could need is around here. And I'm a whopping 10 minutes from work. Ya I don't think I'm going anywhere anytime soon. If people wanna leave then I say "Good luck and take someone with you". :thumbsup

Hate to break the news to you, but there are 15 illegals all in the same econoline van ready to take my spot when we leave

 

[VoodooMedMan]

We recently had some friends move to Texas after having checked it out earlier this year....as of last week, they can't stand Texas and are now moving to Montana. We'll see what happens, I'm guessing they'll be back to Cali lickety split after winter.

We're staying, Cali is still a great place to live. The only other place we would move to is Kauai, but it's kind of slow over there, not sure we could stand it.

The rest of ya' all's - CYA!

How is there situation overall? Not trying to get personal just wondering. The reason why I ask is because some people, to me it seems anyway, move not because they really have a disdain for California but simply because they cannot make it work and blame it on California. They move somewhere else and still can't make it work and say that it sucks and just come back here because friends and family and weather and blah blah blah. When you really look at their situation they are just not real good at managing their finances and living situation. On the other hand you have those that are very successful but want a nicer place to raise kids, not have to drive 3 and half hours and have a separate house just to go to the lake, get away from the rat race etc. Those people usually research before they go and it works out for them. Of course there is the small number that can make it work and just don't end up liking where they went to but in general what I usually see is the ones coming back or wanting to come back truthfully couldn't make much of anything anywhere.

 

[mbrown2]

How is there situation overall? Not trying to get personal just wondering. The reason why I ask is because some people, to me it seems anyway, move not because they really have a disdain for California but simply because they cannot make it work and blame it on California. They move somewhere else and still can't make it work and say that it sucks and just come back here because friends and family and weather and blah blah blah. When you really look at their situation they are just not real good at managing their finances and living situation. On the other hand you have those that are very successful but want a nicer place to raise kids, not have to drive 3 and half hours and have a separate house just to go to the lake, get away from the rat race etc. Those people usually research before they go and it works out for them. Of course there is the small number that can make it work and just don't end up liking where they went to but in general what I usually see is the ones coming back or wanting to come back truthfully couldn't make much of anything anywhere.

Money and managing finances aside...TX has cheap housing too...but you need to look at the school taxes...lots of hidden expenses. That aside, I like the place to visit...lots of lakes, new developments everywhere...and in IT there are more jobs there then CA or AZ...lots of IT there...Lots of Banks with Datacenters, Security/Network Control Rooms, its easy to follow the sun there from an IT perspective and land is cheap and plentiful.

The bad (for me) the weather....they always say in TX " if you don't like the weather wait a couple hours and it will change".... It gets extremely cold, ice on the road cold....and hot/humid in the summer....I can easily deal with the extreme AZ heat versus the fluctuations in weather in TX. That being said I have a number of my teams work there...and they love it and love to raise their families there. My .02

 

[Cole Trickle]

I love California.

Where else in the world can you pay to sit in traffic?

I litterally do that daily on the Toll Road and Fast Trak....lol:skull

Nothing worse than plunking down $9.50 for the fast trak only to come up on a accident in the lanes.Cars on the freewayt fly by and we are screwed...haha:bash:

 

[Bobby V]

I litterally do that daily on the Toll Road and Fast Trak....lol:skull

Nothing worse than plunking down $9.50 for the fast trak only to come up on a accident in the lanes.Cars on the freewayt fly by and we are screwed...haha:bash:

You can always stop in Y.L. and have a couple cold ones until the freeway gets better around 8pm. You can see the 91 from my house.:champagne: Or do what a lot of people do and hang at TGIF's in Savi Ranch.

 

[Bobby V]

Did they make drinking and driving legal again?

And where did I mention liquor. Just cold ones...

 

[coz]

You can always stop in Y.L. and have a couple cold ones until the freeway gets better around 8pm. You can see the 91 from my house.:champagne: Or do what a lot of people do and hang at TGIF's in Savi Ranch.

Forget TGIF's :thumbsdown