You might be a Republican if...

[500bbc]

Well, at least my work here is done.

 

[Froggystyle]

Seems like something is missing...

 

[squeezer]

Seems like something is missing...

It looks like The Geriatric Texican has missed a few of his meds....

 

[Old Texan]

In the words of the virgin mary... Come again?

Having trouble keeping up with your pasty Canadian buddy's quirks?

When you roof a house or do work requiring a nailer on a roof, do you:

A) Get a long hose and carry it up with you to run the nailer
or

B) Take the compressor up on the roof with you and use a long extension cord and a shorter hose.

I'd suggest learning more about the quirky Canuck before getting in to deep........

 

[Old Texan]

It looks like The Geriatric Texican has missed a few of his meds....

Ahhhhhhh. Another irritating hemmorhoid drops down and sounds off.....

 

[Froggystyle]

Having trouble keeping up with your pasty Canadian buddy's quirks?

When you roof a house or do work requiring a nailer on a roof, do you:

A) Get a long hose and carry it up with you to run the nailer
or

B) Take the compressor up on the roof with you and use a long extension cord and a shorter hose.

I'd suggest learning more about the quirky Canuck before getting in to deep........

B)I run a smaller compressor on the roof.

I wouldn't want to carry the hose that distance...

Nor would I want to own that much hose. That's why I have a small compressor...

 

[squeezer]

Its Ruuf...

 

[Froggystyle]

Its Ruuf...

Just the way your mother likes it Trebec!

 

[500bbc]

B)I run a smaller compressor on the roof.

I wouldn't want to carry the hose that distance...

Nor would I want to own that much hose. That's why I have a small compressor...

This was debated when Tom wondered if a long hose or long cord would best solve his problem.

Your method is great if you want to nail five shingles every five minutes while the compressor catches up.
Tex thinks a short cord with a neck sized loop, a tall eave and a slip and fall would best solve Tom's multiple problems.

 

[500bbc]

HOLY CRAP!

Looks like the debate's not over, Tom's on vacation in Texas.

Tampons, bottles urine and feces removed from protesters as Texas senate gathers to vote on measure to toughen up abortion laws
Bill will restrict access and time frame for abortions
Activists for both sides gather to make their voices heard
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 23:36 EST, 12 July 2013
dailymail.co.uk



The Texas Senate has given its initial approval for sweeping abortion restrictions late on Friday, sending them to Republican Governor Rick Perry to sign into law after weeks of protests and rallies that drew thousands of people to the Capitol and made the state the focus of the national abortion debate. Republicans used their large majority in the Texas Legislature to pass the Bill nearly three weeks after a filibuster by Democratic Senator Wendy Davis and an outburst by abortion-rights activists in the Senate gallery disrupted a deadline vote on June 25.

As protesters came to the Capitol building in Austin on Friday, bottles of urine and feces, and even tampons were confiscated by state troopers as they tried to prevent anything from disrupting the debate.

Democrats, who have called the proposal unnecessary and unconstitutional, sought to enter into the legislative record material that could help in a court battle. According to NBC News, Governor Perry lauded lawmakers who 'tirelessly defended our smallest and most vulnerable Texans and future Texans', and said the legislation showed the state's commitment to protect women's health.

The Senate's debate took place between a packed gallery of demonstrators, with anti-abortion activists wearing blue and abortion-rights supporters wearing orange. Those attending the debate were searched, and any item that could potentially be thrown from the gallery, including tampons, were confiscated, according to the Washington Post. A senator later stopped security officials confiscating tampons, calling the move 'bone headed'. However, Texas Department of Public Safety officers were reported to have found one jar suspected to contain urine, 18 jars suspected of holding feces and three jars suspected to contain paint.

 

[was thatguy]

And that quickly Brown puts himself back in sig status...

It doesn't take a lot with you, does it?

It's kind of uncomfortable to watch.

 

[Froggystyle]

It doesn't take a lot with you, does it?

It's kind of uncomfortable to watch.

Say something funny... I'll sig it. He knocked Tex out of the spot with a superior quip...

I'm all about content and context. Brown tends to lead the pack here in both.

The biggest reason I switched to it is that I was thinking the same thing. If you agree with OT, time to revisit your stance on the subject. It probably means you haven't considered the other side well enough.

 

[was thatguy]

Say something funny... I'll sig it. He knocked Tex out of the spot with a superior quip...

I'm all about content and context. Brown tends to lead the pack here in both.

The biggest reason I switched to it is that I was thinking the same thing. If you agree with OT, time to revisit your stance on the subject. It probably means you haven't considered the other side well enough.

My comment stands.

 

[Tom Brown]

It's kind of uncomfortable to watch.

... but you know what's fantastic to watch? You eating a shit sandwitch 24/7. :thumbsup

It's his sig. He gets to choose what he wants. You're part of the group that has been vocally in favor of the Republican party and then proceeds to judge people on their views, life choices, and even their taste in humor. You're the bossy mother in law who wants to make all decisions about everything. Perhaps this will help you understand why I want nothing to do with the world you are trying to perpetrate on others.

If my neighbor believes in a ghost, enjoys the feeling of a penis in his ass, or finds Joan Rivers is funny, I could care less as long as he does not to instill any of that on me.

 

[was thatguy]

... but you know what's fantastic to watch? You eating a shit sandwitch 24/7. :thumbsup

It's his sig. He gets to choose what he wants. You're part of the group that has been vocally in favor of the Republican party and then proceeds to judge people on their views, life choices, and even their taste in humor. You're the bossy mother in law who wants to make all decisions about everything. Perhaps this will help you understand why I want nothing to do with the world you are trying to perpetrate on others.

If my neighbor believes in a ghost, enjoys the feeling of a penis in his ass, or finds Joan Rivers is funny, I could care less as long as he does not to instill any of that on me.

You idiot. I have Fashion Police on DVR. :thumbsup

I understand that recruiting an ex seal is probably the biggest feather in your cap, easily.

And the "shallowness" you label others with who find it bizarre is just you protecting your stringer.

Yet how ironic is it that you continue to accuse me of pushing my agenda on others when all I ever really do is state my opinion?

I said it is uncomfortable to watch him suck you off (metaphorically speaking), and it is.
I said it doesn't take much to impress him comedically, and it doesn't.
(Especially when you are capable of better lines than that)

I'll tell you what WAS funny to watch.
You trying to suck up to Steve so you could glom onto his stuff in Vegas, and him telling you how disgusting he finds your online persona.

I realize that the whole thing was most likely engineered ahead of time.
That's how you get your rocks off, not that there's anything wrong with that.

There is one difference between guys like Tex and yourself (and your minions)

Tex says what is on his mind, here and in person.
Where as most all of what you post is designed to elicit a response.
Carefully engineered and preplanned.

When you DO speak openly, it is usually in anger, and usually in anger responding to someone who calls you on your bullshit.

 

[Tom Brown]

I understand that recruiting an ex seal is probably the biggest feather in your cap, easily.

Oh yeah, he's entirely under my control.

... and you think I'm the idiot? lmao!!!

That's some of the funniest shit I've ever read. :thumbsup


OK, Tommy. Smokes. Let's go....

 

[Tom Brown]

OK, Tommy... this is interesting so I'll serve up a morsel you may enjoy.

I was never banned from the PB.com forums but Chris Davidson asked me to stop coming by. You know why? Because I was one of Dave's army of minions.

How much control do you suppose Dave has over me? I've spoken with Dave a handful of times. I've exchanged maybe a couple of dozen PMs with him, over a 15 year period. ... but Chris sees me as Dave's soldier or, at least, he did. I don't know what his view is now. I haven't spoken with him in many, many months.

I don't hate Chris at all. I also have no interest in seeing anything bad happen to PB. I wouldn't sabotage it. I didn't even joke around much over there. I went over, asked about the TV show that everyone was curious about, and got a blast. This was before it was released. Unreal.

You and Chris might get along great. You're both good people and you're both deluded.

Recruited Wes? I'm still laughing my ass off. He could handle the Seal training but he can't bear up against the influence of a Canadian smart ass posting on an internet forum.


Maybe this pattern of assuming conspiracy every time someone does not share your point of view is something you can learn from? Maybe if two guys think similarly on an issue, while you believe otherwise, does not mean those two guys are in jihad against you.

I suspect your process of enemy identification is completely broken. If Wes is conspiring against you, he's doing it alone. Oh man... this shit writes itself.

 

[was thatguy]

Who is Chris Davidson?

Jesus Tom, who ever said I thought you were the "enemy"??
Or Wes for that matter??

It may be possible that you read way more into my posts than what I am saying?

It would appear that you are guilty of judging far more than being judged.
That's just an opinion, not a verdict
There is a difference.

 

[Tom Brown]

That's just an opinion, not a verdict

Ok, Tommy. My opinion, not verdict, is that you used the term "recruited" and drew on imagery of creating teams as referencing conflict.

 

[Old Texan]

B)I run a smaller compressor on the roof.

I wouldn't want to carry the hose that distance...

Nor would I want to own that much hose. That's why I have a small compressor...

A Ha!......You just enlightened me to what I and others have been missing. Brown has a very short hose. And here we just thought he was a dumb fuck Canadian to tote the whole compressor up on the roof. and it also shows what you 2 have in common.:eek

 

[Old Texan]

Who is Chris Davidson?

Jesus Tom, who ever said I thought you were the "enemy"??
Or Wes for that matter??

It may be possible that you read way more into my posts than what I am saying?

It would appear that you are guilty of judging far more than being judged.
That's just an opinion, not a verdict
There is a difference.

You've got to understand. Tom's growing up with the long periods of winter gloom have made him paranoid as hell come spring and further more Froggy let it out of the bag that TB suffers from a "Stubby Dick" complex.....All the pieces are fitting together.

Now we just gotta figure out if there's anyone in Hollywood capable of portraying Brownie accurately in the movie.....Need a cross between Peter Dinklage and that guy trying to pull off the French accent on the AllState commercial. Michael Richards might work but he's far to well hung

 

[was thatguy]

Ok, Tommy. My opinion, not verdict, is that you used the term "recruited" and drew on imagery of creating teams as referencing conflict.

Got it. I'll choose my words more carefully!

I have never really considered that debate on here was a team sport, but I guess it ends up that way usually.

 

[was thatguy]

You've got to understand. Tom's growing up with the long periods of winter gloom have made him paranoid as hell come spring and further more Froggy let it out of the bag that TB suffers from a "Stubby Dick" complex.....All the pieces are fitting together.

Now we just gotta figure out if there's anyone in Hollywood capable of portraying Brownie accurately in the movie.....Need a cross between Peter Dinklage and that guy trying to pull off the French accent on the AllState commercial. Michael Richards might work but he's far to well hung

Paul Ruebens is a lock for that!!!:thumbsup

 

[500bbc]

It's SEAL not seal!

Silly minions.

 

[Tom Brown]

I have never really considered that debate on here was a team sport, but I guess it ends up that way usually.

Well then, you're a moron. About 10 seconds after this forum was created, paul65k posted the first "Oh yeah!" post to reinforce something Texi wrote and you guys ratcheted it up from there. I write "you guys" but you've been in but toward the edge of that group. You add a lot of your own thoughts so that's something positive.

Person A writes something, Person B slams person A and there are 15 mindless "+26" comments after that.

It's tough to see yourself, Tommy. I understand that and I'm here to help.

 

[Outdrive1]

Well then, you're a moron. About 10 seconds after this forum was created, paul65k posted the first "Oh yeah!" post to reinforce something Texi wrote and you guys ratcheted it up from there. I write "you guys" but you've been in but toward the edge of that group. You add a lot of your own thoughts so that's something positive.

Person A writes something, Person B slams person A and there are 15 mindless "+26" comments after that.

It's tough to see yourself, Tommy. I understand that and I'm here to help.

+27

 

[Old Texan]

Well then, you're a moron. About 10 seconds after this forum was created, paul65k posted the first "Oh yeah!" post to reinforce something Texi wrote and you guys ratcheted it up from there. I write "you guys" but you've been in but toward the edge of that group. You add a lot of your own thoughts so that's something positive.

Person A writes something, Person B slams person A and there are 15 mindless "+26" comments after that.

It's tough to see yourself, Tommy. I understand that and I'm here to help.

That would be "X" (times) 26.....At least make an effort towards being accurate.:moon:

 

[was thatguy]

That would be "X" (times) 26.....At least make an effort towards being accurate.:moon:

X26

 

[was thatguy]

So this simple statement;

I have never really considered that debate on here was a team sport, but I guess it ends up that way usually.

Draws this.....

Well then, you're a moron. About 10 seconds after this forum was created, paul65k posted the first "Oh yeah!" post to reinforce something Texi wrote and you guys ratcheted it up from there. I write "you guys" but you've been in but toward the edge of that group. You add a lot of your own thoughts so that's something positive.

Person A writes something, Person B slams person A and there are 15 mindless "+26" comments after that.

It's tough to see yourself, Tommy. I understand that and I'm here to help.

Noted...

 

[Faceaz]

HOLY CRAP!

Looks like the debate's not over, Tom's on vacation in Texas.

Tampons, bottles urine and feces removed from protesters as Texas senate gathers to vote on measure to toughen up abortion laws
Bill will restrict access and time frame for abortions
Activists for both sides gather to make their voices heard
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 23:36 EST, 12 July 2013
dailymail.co.uk



The Texas Senate has given its initial approval for sweeping abortion restrictions late on Friday, sending them to Republican Governor Rick Perry to sign into law after weeks of protests and rallies that drew thousands of people to the Capitol and made the state the focus of the national abortion debate. Republicans used their large majority in the Texas Legislature to pass the Bill nearly three weeks after a filibuster by Democratic Senator Wendy Davis and an outburst by abortion-rights activists in the Senate gallery disrupted a deadline vote on June 25.

As protesters came to the Capitol building in Austin on Friday, bottles of urine and feces, and even tampons were confiscated by state troopers as they tried to prevent anything from disrupting the debate.

Democrats, who have called the proposal unnecessary and unconstitutional, sought to enter into the legislative record material that could help in a court battle. According to NBC News, Governor Perry lauded lawmakers who 'tirelessly defended our smallest and most vulnerable Texans and future Texans', and said the legislation showed the state's commitment to protect women's health.

The Senate's debate took place between a packed gallery of demonstrators, with anti-abortion activists wearing blue and abortion-rights supporters wearing orange. Those attending the debate were searched, and any item that could potentially be thrown from the gallery, including tampons, were confiscated, according to the Washington Post. A senator later stopped security officials confiscating tampons, calling the move 'bone headed'. However, Texas Department of Public Safety officers were reported to have found one jar suspected to contain urine, 18 jars suspected of holding feces and three jars suspected to contain paint.

This is the single most hypocritical stance by Republicans IMO.

I had a girlfriend in college who had an abortion. To this day, one of the best decisions we made - no remorse. Had it been carried, it would the product of a broken home with split parents, contributing to the moral decay of this country. I'm sure she would have lost her college scholarship & I possibly would have had to drop out of school to provide support. There is no scenario (other than abortion) that would have kept lives from being ruined.

Insisting this scenario takes place, is insisting that our country continue on the downward spiral.

Why this bill in Texas sucks. 2 weeks ago a friend of ours found out the baby she's carrying has 2 cysts on it's brain. She's 20 weeks pregnant. The 2 cysts most likely indicate the baby will have Edwards Syndrome, a test is currently being performed to find out if that's truly the case. The majority of Edwards Syndrome babies never make it full term. Of the remaining, over 90% die within the first year, the majority of those die within the first few days. In all, less than a few percent make it past a year & most likely subject to a form of retardation. Under the current law, she still has time to terminate the pregnancy. If they had to take it to term, I'm sure it would ruin their finances & emotionally wreck them, all because the government dictated they must deliver a dying baby.

 

[Paul65k]

This is the single most hypocritical stance by Republicans IMO.

I had a girlfriend in college who had an abortion. To this day, one of the best decisions we made - no remorse. Had it been carried, it would the product of a broken home with split parents, contributing to the moral decay of this country. I'm sure she would have lost her college scholarship & I possibly would have had to drop out of school to provide support. There is no scenario (other than abortion) that would have kept lives from being ruined.

Insisting this scenario takes place, is insisting that our country continue on the downward spiral.

Why this bill in Texas sucks. 2 weeks ago a friend of ours found out the baby she's carrying has 2 cysts on it's brain. She's 20 weeks pregnant. The 2 cysts most likely indicate the baby will have Edwards Syndrome, a test is currently being performed to find out if that's truly the case. The majority of Edwards Syndrome babies never make it full term. Of the remaining, over 90% die within the first year, the majority of those die within the first few days. In all, less than a few percent make it past a year & most likely subject to a form of retardation. Under the current law, she still has time to terminate the pregnancy. If they had to take it to term, I'm sure it would ruin their finances & emotionally wreck them, all because the government dictated they must deliver a dying baby.

So I agree with you Face.......mostly.
1. I agree that it is absolutely crazy that this issue has so defined the Republican Party.....I personally think it dates back to Regan and Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority"......has given liberals a window that is crazy and not what fiscal conservatives want or need. It is difficult for fiscal conservatives IMHO as there is really no where for them to land (party wise) as this single issue has come to define the Republican Party....fiscal conservatives are stuck between a rock and a hard place if they disagree with the pro-lifers.

2. I do however disagree that your girlfriend having an abortion in college saved both your lives......while I am not anti-abortion on the whole I do have friends that have raised the most wonderful daughter (2 actually) that was the result of a similar situation at birth. The mother got pregnant while in medical school and decided to put the baby up for adoption( she went on to become a Dr.) and our friends who tried to have children for years brought home a beautiful baby girl, then another (similar circumstances) 9 months later and then believe it or not the woman who couldn't get pregnant did just that 9 months later. They raised all 3 girls with the same love and attention and today their first has given them 3 lovely grandchildren.....so I do think that was an option and would not have changed either of you lives....not saying it was wrong that you did it just saying i don't buy the premise of your argument on that one.

BTW you stated this is the single biggest issue you have with Republicans......just wondering what your single biggest issue with Democrats is????

 

[Faceaz]

So I agree with you Face.......mostly.
1. I agree that it is absolutely crazy that this issue has so defined the Republican Party.....I personally think it dates back to Regan and Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority"......has given liberals a window that is crazy and not what fiscal conservatives want or need. It is difficult for fiscal conservatives IMHO as there is really no where for them to land (party wise) as this single issue has come to define the Republican Party....fiscal conservatives are stuck between a rock and a hard place if they disagree with the pro-lifers.

2. I do however disagree that your girlfriend having an abortion in college saved both your lives......while I am not anti-abortion on the whole I do have friends that have raised the most wonderful daughter (2 actually) that was the result of a similar situation at birth. The mother got pregnant while in medical school and decided to put the baby up for adoption( she went on to become a Dr.) and our friends who tried to have children for years brought home a beautiful baby girl, then another (similar circumstances) 9 months later and then believe it or not the woman who couldn't get pregnant did just that 9 months later. They raised all 3 girls with the same love and attention and today their first has given them 3 lovely grandchildren.....so I do think that was an option and would not have changed either of you lives....not saying it was wrong that you did it just saying i don't buy the premise of your argument on that one.

BTW you stated this is the single biggest issue you have with Republicans......just wondering what your single biggest issue with Democrats is????

Of course there's opinion, especially from a removed perspective. Every scenario is different, IMO it's impossible to maintain 2 athletic scholarships when 1 is pregnant & the other has to work to provide for the pregnancy. Either way, it's easy to Monday quarterback a situation.

I should say my biggest problem with the Republican Party is a larger scale of hypocrisy. Preaching limited government while trying to dictate the lives of others (gay marriage, abortion, debt reduction, etc.).

Largest problem with Democrats is sooo easy, entitlements. But, I don't see Dems hiding from them in hypocrisy, they openly embrace them.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

So I agree with you Face.......mostly.
1. I agree that it is absolutely crazy that this issue has so defined the Republican Party.....I personally think it dates back to Regan and Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority"......has given liberals a window that is crazy and not what fiscal conservatives want or need. It is difficult for fiscal conservatives IMHO as there is really no where for them to land (party wise) as this single issue has come to define the Republican Party....fiscal conservatives are stuck between a rock and a hard place if they disagree with the pro-lifers.

2. I do however disagree that your girlfriend having an abortion in college saved both your lives......while I am not anti-abortion on the whole I do have friends that have raised the most wonderful daughter (2 actually) that was the result of a similar situation at birth. The mother got pregnant while in medical school and decided to put the baby up for adoption( she went on to become a Dr.) and our friends who tried to have children for years brought home a beautiful baby girl, then another (similar circumstances) 9 months later and then believe it or not the woman who couldn't get pregnant did just that 9 months later. They raised all 3 girls with the same love and attention and today their first has given them 3 lovely grandchildren.....so I do think that was an option and would not have changed either of you lives....not saying it was wrong that you did it just saying i don't buy the premise of your argument on that one.

BTW you stated this is the single biggest issue you have with Republicans......just wondering what your single biggest issue with Democrats is????

I think you're correct, BUT, as I see it, the Democrats are defining the Republicans as wanting to take woman's health choices from them and the Republicans are allowing it.

Steve

 

[Paul65k]

I should say my biggest problem with the Republican Party is a larger scale of hypocrisy. Preaching limited government while trying to dictate the lives of others (gay marriage, abortion, debt reduction, etc.).

In Which universe does does debt reduction go together with gay marriage and abortion??????

 

[Tom Brown]

That would be "X" (times) 26.....At least make an effort towards being accurate.:moon:

I apologize, Texi. I thought it would be nice to correct your math, forgetting that you are a Republican; you have no need of math or science.

 

[Faceaz]

In Which universe does does debt reduction go together with gay marriage and abortion??????

I'll agree, just stuck that in there. Did because it's a cornerstone of every Republican Presidential campaign, yet in my lifetime I have yet to see a Republican President actually do it, therefore hypocritical IMO.

 

[530RL]

In Which universe does does debt reduction go together with gay marriage and abortion??????

Paul,

I'll pass on the gay issue other than to state that if more guys were gay, our options would get better and better.

Since 1980, there have been approximately 58 million abortions. Although there is no objective data, it stands to reason that abortions are more likely to happen when people are young, low on funds, or not just prepared to raise children. So it seems to reason, that if one is pro-life, many of those 58 million births, and the millions of births from those births 33 years later, would need greater government support.

The point put more simply, is it seems to be a wee bit inconsistent to believe in smaller government and spending, but be pro-life. Some percentage of those 58 million births are gonna need more government support, or will be dying in the street. Those children are not free.

 

[was thatguy]

I think Face makes some very valid points, and that it is unfortunate that these issues tend to define the Republican Party over and over.

As a registered republican, it frustrates me that the party defends these stances, feeding the fire.
It sucks because I don't think the party line accurately reflects the majority of republican voters.
The part about prop 8 that sucks the worst is the obscene waste of time and money over a pissing match waged by extremists from both sides. I've known gay people and couples my whole life. We all have.
Most of them are happy about the ruling, but it doesn't dictate or change their lives anyway. They were happy couples before the ruling. And what does it change for the other side? Not much.
It's just stupid that it is such a big deal to try to quash it.
I don't care, and I don't think many voters care much.
They may have an opinion, but not enough to override much more important issues.

As far as Hypocrisy, I think that is simply a matter of perception.
The current admin just flat out lies straight faced, or doesn't even bother to try being deceitful anymore.
So I guess technically that may not be hypocrisy.

 

[Paul65k]

I'll agree, just stuck that in there. Did because it's a cornerstone of every Republican Presidential campaign, yet in my lifetime I have yet to see a Republican President actually do it, therefore hypocritical IMO.

Yes but what's frustrating is when conservatives like me (fiscally) try to have any kind of reasonable conversation about spending more than we take in we are always thrown (conveniently I might add) into that bucket......as was said earlier the Democratic party is doing a great job of defining the Republican party......rightly or wrongly

 

[Froggystyle]

BTW you stated this is the single biggest issue you have with Republicans......just wondering what your single biggest issue with Democrats is????

Mine is welfare, and Obamacare (same thing IMO) neck and neck. Most else I can live with.

 

[Old Texan]

Mine is welfare, and Obamacare (same thing IMO) neck and neck. Most else I can live with.

Curious on your thoughts of how using the bureaucracy of orgs like the EPA to seriously threaten our freedoms to use internal combustion engines like we presently use to boat and other things? That type of thing ranks pretty high on my list of concerns....I worry we won't be able to use public land and waterways freely in the future. To much circumventing Congress even though Congress is it's own mess.

 

[Old Texan]

I think Face makes some very valid points, and that it is unfortunate that these issues tend to define the Republican Party over and over.

As a registered republican, it frustrates me that the party defends these stances, feeding the fire.
It sucks because I don't think the party line accurately reflects the majority of republican voters.
The part about prop 8 that sucks the worst is the obscene waste of time and money over a pissing match waged by extremists from both sides. I've known gay people and couples my whole life. We all have.
Most of them are happy about the ruling, but it doesn't dictate or change their lives anyway. They were happy couples before the ruling. And what does it change for the other side? Not much.
It's just stupid that it is such a big deal to try to quash it.
I don't care, and I don't think many voters care much.
They may have an opinion, but not enough to override much more important issues.

As far as Hypocrisy, I think that is simply a matter of perception.
The current admin just flat out lies straight faced, or doesn't even bother to try being deceitful anymore.
So I guess technically that may not be hypocrisy.

Agreed.....Gay rights and abortion legislation is way down on my list. Neither should have anywhere close to the influence and time they are afforded in elections. Both are used to cover up action and debate on real issues that effect a far greater majority of the populace. Both are emotionally driven and exact too much attention based solely on those emotions. Frankly I've never had any gay issue directly effect me in any way. Been some abortion stuff in the family, but nothing near the significance it's used in the political world.

Same deal with religion and other shit guys like the pasty legged wonder boy throw at the wall hoping for effect.:skull

 

[Froggystyle]

Curious on your thoughts of how using the bureaucracy of orgs like the EPA to seriously threaten our freedoms to use internal combustion engines like we presently use to boat and other things? That type of thing ranks pretty high on my list of concerns....I worry we won't be able to use public land and waterways freely in the future. To much circumventing Congress even though Congress is it's own mess.

I don't see that as Democratic in particular... Just well-meaning hippies.

In any case... Get rid of welfare, and with it bullshit government grants to give some hippie a job counting snowy plovers and milky ragweed or whatever... The EPA is based on bullshit science, which is starting to get refuted in the new Information Age... With research, trending and conflicting opinions easier to justify. As an example, many off road areas are getting opened back up... Glamis as an example.

 

[Old Texan]

I don't see that as Democratic in particular... Just well-meaning hippies.

In any case... Get rid of welfare, and with it bullshit government grants to give some hippie a job counting snowy plovers and milky ragweed or whatever... The EPA is based on bullshit science, which is starting to get refuted in the new Information Age... With research, trending and conflicting opinions easier to justify. As an example, many off road areas are getting opened back up... Glamis as an example.

Yet this admin has used the EPA more as a tool than any other prior admin. O's war on coal and nuke power plants have kept us from using these proven sources inspite of the facts the technologies have made them clean.

I admire your optimism but fail to see it in real world applications. Enviros are far more than well meaning hippies and their intents are far more complex. Carbon credits and other scams could cripple US industries not to mention how the harassment of small business crushes growth. I've yet to hear any Dem want to disband the EPA.

 

[Faceaz]

I think Face makes some very valid points, and that it is unfortunate that these issues tend to define the Republican Party over and over.

As a registered republican, it frustrates me that the party defends these stances, feeding the fire.
It sucks because I don't think the party line accurately reflects the majority of republican voters.
The part about prop 8 that sucks the worst is the obscene waste of time and money over a pissing match waged by extremists from both sides. I've known gay people and couples my whole life. We all have.
Most of them are happy about the ruling, but it doesn't dictate or change their lives anyway. They were happy couples before the ruling. And what does it change for the other side? Not much.
It's just stupid that it is such a big deal to try to quash it.
I don't care, and I don't think many voters care much.
They may have an opinion, but not enough to override much more important issues.

As far as Hypocrisy, I think that is simply a matter of perception.
The current admin just flat out lies straight faced, or doesn't even bother to try being deceitful anymore.
So I guess technically that may not be hypocrisy.

Thank you..

But, I thought you weren't a registered Republican... LOL. If I remember right, previous accounts were once a Registered Dem & currently an Independent.

 

[thetub]

In Which universe does does debt reduction go together with gay marriage and abortion??????

it might not add up to much , but gay marriage being legal has tax and social security advantages that might impact debt?

 

[Froggystyle]

it might not add up to much , but gay marriage being legal has tax and social security advantages that might impact debt?

Offset completely by lavish gay weddings...

 

[530RL]

it might not add up to much , but gay marriage being legal has tax and social security advantages that might impact debt?

If they both work, they are better off staying single as they would have higher SS benefits and lower overall total tax. So depending upon income levels, and if it is a single or dual income family, it could go either way.

 

[530RL]

Offset completely by lavish gay weddings...

The guy never really cares.....

 

[thetub]

If they both work, they are better off staying single as they would have higher SS benefits and lower overall total tax. So depending upon income levels, and if it is a single or dual income family, it could go either way.

how about social security survivorship and inheritance tax?