Why Do LEO's leave their patrol cars running....

[lalhc]

I sell "connected vehicle" solutions to public safety agencies, and it takes up to 4 minutes for everything to power up. A simple $90 industrial charge guard will allow all of their electronics to stay on for up to 2 hours after shutting of their vehicle. This device also measures the battery voltage and will shut everything off if to allow enough power to turn the vehicle back on if the voltage goes low enough. Most agencies pass on this option and would much rather waste gas. I typical full sized truck will waste a gallon of gas for every hour idling.

 

[Abc123]

My attitude...lol

Are unoccupied cop cars running part of your public safety? Yes.

So back to reality. I don't care if you like may attitude or not. You have proven to be nothing more than an antagonist so why would anyone in here think your post is anything less?

Ok. Then you ignore me and I will do the same. We won't get anywhere with each other.

 

[Abc123]

I sell "connected vehicle" solutions to public safety agencies, and it takes up to 4 minutes for everything to power up. A simple $90 industrial charge guard will allow all of their electronics to stay on for up to 2 hours after shutting of their vehicle. This device also measures the battery voltage and will shut everything off if to allow enough power to turn the vehicle back on if the voltage goes low enough. Most agencies pass on this option and would much rather waste gas. I typical full sized truck will waste a gallon of gas for every hour idling.

Thank you for your reply. :thumbup:

 

[Cole Trickle]

I think we are misunderstanding each other here. By breaks you mean cops can stop to eat on duty, NOT we get to shut down and ignore our job for a lunch break like most people with regular jobs..... right?

I was reffering to the jab someone took about the cop car being at a starbucks.

Basically people think cops shouldn't be able to eat or have coffee while on duty.

 

[t&y]

Ok. Then you ignore me and I will do the same. We won't get anywhere with each other.

No surprise. I answer your question and you obviously didn't like it. So now you are going to ignore it and me. I might shed a tear

 

[t&y]

I was reffering to the jab someone took about the cop car being at a starbucks.

Basically people think cops shouldn't be able to eat or have coffee while on duty.

Yup... sarcastic. We are on the same page.

 

[was thatguy]

 

[koenig]

O.k. I phoned and asked again. They don't do it all the time. Mostly when other units are tied up with calls and their isn't a lot of available units to take an emergency call. Even though nothing is happening you are in emergency mode, leaving the car running is easier to go quickly. Plus the car might not start. Side benefit is the cars computer is up and running.

 

[Abc123]

You didn't when you took the picture.

Didn't what?

 

[Abc123]

O.k. I phoned and asked again. They don't do it all the time. Mostly when other units are tied up with calls and their isn't a lot of available units to take an emergency call. Even though nothing is happening you are in emergency mode, leaving the car running is easier to go quickly. Plus the car might not start. Side benefit is the cars computer is up and running.

Thank you. If electronics die/fail in one car, I wonder if it could create a glitch in the entire system.

 

[was thatguy]

O.k. I phoned and asked again. They don't do it all the time. Mostly when other units are tied up with calls and their isn't a lot of available units to take an emergency call. Even though nothing is happening you are in emergency mode, leaving the car running is easier to go quickly. Plus the car might not start. Side benefit is the cars computer is up and running.

Rejected.:yikes:yikes

It's common sense shit like that that will kill this thread!!:grumble:

 

[t&y]

Thank you. If electronics die/fail in one car, I wonder if it could create a glitch in the entire system.

Have you ever stopped and asked yourself... "Should I really criticize something I know nothing about?"

 

[Abc123]

Rejected.:yikes:yikes

It's common sense shit like that that will kill this thread!!:grumble:

If your intent is take part in useless drama on the internet then I suppose so. Don't any of you get tired of that crap? Like who cares! lol

It's defiantly winter time.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

It's not just cops and if I come across that way, I apologize. I am curious about everything and so I question everything like religion, politics, thoughts and etc.

I haven't mentioned waste, environmental impact, that cops are wasteful or made any accusations.

And for the record. I DO NOT HATE ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. Calm down peoples.

EDIT:

I just looked at the last 100 threads I have started. 2 are about Law Enforcement. That means that less than 2% of what subjects I bring up on this board are about LEOs.

Yeah but you seem to hit hard on cops. I'm not the only one who thinks so. Think about that for a moment. It's also in how it's done. Probably the biggest problem is there are cops on here so they get a little riled up when they are constantly defending themselves in a place where they come to get away from it.

That's all.

Problem is not with most cops but with the "system" and the government. As was posted lots of departments pass on the 90 dollar flux capacitor. So as stated its agency specific for the most part. I can tell you from experience on frequent rides with LA County Sheriff that the cars are off when nobody is in them. Not to say their isn't other stupid stuff I shake my head at.

 

[t&y]

Rejected.:yikes:yikes

It's common sense shit like that that will kill this thread!!:grumble:

Our MDC's will run for up to two hours on battery life after I turn the ignition off. Not really sure what system specifically he is referring to maintaining for that time span which might explain a little better why the agency's opt out of it.

 

[Abc123]

Have you ever stopped and asked yourself... "Should I really criticize something I know nothing about?"

That still isn't a solid answer to my question. Notice how I replied with another question?

Have you ever considered bringing something to the table other that your piss-poor egotistical attitude? Can we ignore each other yet or are you that bored?

 

[Shady]

I was reffering to the jab someone took about the cop car being at a starbucks.

Basically people think cops shouldn't be able to eat or have coffee while on duty.

It was not a jab, I am pro LEO's!!! I saw them sitting at the Starbucks inside Safeway, with the cars running outside. I was really curious why they would leave the cars running. I have nothing but respect for LEO's.

 

[t&y]

That still isn't a solid answer to my question. Notice how I replied with another question?

Have you ever considered bringing something to the table other that your piss-poor egotistical attitude? Can we ignore each other yet or are you that bored?

You asked if unoccupied idling police cars is part of your public safety. I responded YES. Question answered.

You forget I talk to people like you all day long.

 

[Abc123]

Yeah but you seem to hit hard on cops. I'm not the only one who thinks so. Think about that for a moment. It's also in how it's done. Probably the biggest problem is there are cops on here so they get a little riled up when they are constantly defending themselves in a place where they come to get away from it.

That's all.

Problem is not with most cops but with the "system" and the government. As was posted lots of departments pass on the 90 dollar flux capacitor. So as stated its agency specific for the most part. I can tell you from experience on frequent rides with LA County Sheriff that the cars are off when nobody is in them. Not to say their isn't other stupid stuff I shake my head at.

If that is the impression I have put off, I apologize. It is not my intent.


I understand where you are coming from and appreciate you keeping this topic conversational. I think we as people are in times where we especially need to question everything. Main reason being that a lot of what humans have been doing, doesn't make sense and nobody questions that. Not to get all philosophical. lol

I have always had a curious mind and there are a lot of people that don't like being questioned and/or see a question as an attack. I was the kid in school that teachers hated, because I questioned everything. I still passed with As and Bs.

 

[pronstar]

I spent 15 years working on and managing ambulances. We never shut our units off while on call (although ambulances have a lot more electronics than police cars)....radios, cardiac monitors, air conditioners. The only time we shut them off was at a hospital or a base station where we had 110 power connectors to charge our batteries and run our air conditioners and other equipment.

Many fire departments also do this, the trucks are plugged-in while in the station.

 

[was thatguy]

You asked if unoccupied idling police cars is part of your public safety. I responded YES. Question answered.

You forget I talk to people like you all day long.

Frankly, I don't know how you keep from beating half the people you encounter...:thumbup:
No way I could be a cop...I'd be up on charges after day 1.

Kudos! seriously!

 

[Abc123]

You asked if unoccupied idling police cars is part of your public safety. I responded YES. Question answered.

You forget I talk to people like you all day long.

Very broad answer to say the least.

People like me? What is that supposed to mean?

 

[Abc123]

Frankly, I don't know how you keep from beating half the people you encounter...:thumbup:
No way I could be a cop...I'd be up on charges after day 1.

Kudos! seriously!

Wow. That's a disgusting and violent thing to say!

 

[Member: 71]

I saw the same thing at the Fort Mohave Safeway on Saturday morning, I was wondering why the LEO's left their cars running while they were enjoying their morning Starbucks.

Next time you see them at the Starbucks, make eye contact, do a headscratch :headscratch: then look around and let them know a gang banger with a shaved head just drove off with one of their squad cars...





Disclaimer: have your running shoes on, as they won't take lightly to the joke. report back.

 

[was thatguy]

Wow. That's a disgusting and violent thing to say!

No, I'm just sayin' I don't have the patience.

 

[milkmoney]

Good job homos . I jus list 5 min of my life. Lol


NGE is my hero

T&y is my favorite meter maid

 

[t&y]

Frankly, I don't know how you keep from beating half the people you encounter...:thumbup:
No way I could be a cop...I'd be up on charges after day 1.

Kudos! seriously!

I have one of the best jobs in the world.

Day before yesterday call comes out... My car was idling unoccupied by the way:skull:skull:skull:skull:skull Pursuit of a stolen vehicle. I get to jump in, and roll Code 3 through the city breaking all kinds of traffic laws, drifting around corners, coordinating on radio, drinking my coffee... getting ready for whatever comes at the end. About 30 seconds out it goes to a foot pursuit through the projects. I get there and am in the chase.... Airship in low orbit, people diving out of the way, women asking for my number (it's only for the benefits:skull) Long story short Meth head gets caught.

We are clearing the car and a Gun Shot Victim/Attempt Murder comes out on the other side of town. Luckily I parked strategically YES MY CAR WAS IDLING UNATTENDED AGAIN:cool so I take the handle. Get to play nascar back across the city only to encounter a scene of a bunch of people who want nothing to do with me, don't care if their friend is dying, but think the most important question to ask me is "Y the fuc u talkin to me nigga... I di int shoot nobody.." just honest people who think questioning everything is the correct way to go about life i guess. They probably really love the police in reality and are just misunderstood curious people exercising their rights to question authority because they pay my salary. Guy lived, just took one through the neck... His homeboys stopped yapping after we started escorting them to the back seats of our cars. Turns out once they stopped questioning everything, and let us do our job, we got info regarding the shooters and went of from there.

Left that scene to help out a family with troubled neighbor. Passed out stickers, shot the shit with a guy who had been living in the same house in the hood for over 50 years, and learned a bit about what the place used to be like. Got invited in for a cup anytime we were in the area and a handshake and thanks for doing our job.

I love it. Balls to the wall one minute, talking with an old timer about the history of the area and his family the next.

 

[Abc123]

Good job homos . I jus list 5 min of my life. Lol


NGE is my hero

T&y is my favorite meter maid

T&Y doesn't seem like a bad guy/cop. I think we just came across the wrong way towards each other long ago or something. He did mention something about being a fellow runner. So he can't be a total dick. :thumbup:

 

[t&y]

T&y is my favorite meter maid

YES my life is complete:skull

 

[was thatguy]

Good job homos . I jus list 5 min of my life. Lol


NGE is my hero

T&y is my favorite meter maid

Good Job milkman...you just added 5 pages at least!:thumbup::thumbup:

 

[Reddy Too]

Didn't what?

Ask the police eating at Chipotle why they keep their squad cars running while they ate. I guess you were just afraid and rather take picture and act self righteous on a Boating Forum.

 

[milkmoney]

T&Y doesn't seem like a bad guy/cop. I think we just came across the wrong way towards each other long ago or something. He did mention something about being a fellow runner. So he can't be a total dick. :thumbup:

I am sure he is alright and would be ok to hang at the river with. [emoji106]

YES my life is complete:skull[/QUOTE

Excatly as it should be

Good Job milkman...you just added 5 pages at least!:thumbup::thumbup:

Ur very welcome. [emoji106][emoji106]

 

[Shady]

Next time you see them at the Starbucks, make eye contact, do a headscratch :headscratch: then look around and let them know a gang banger with a shaved head just drove off with one of their squad cars...





Disclaimer: have your running shoes on, as they won't take lightly to the joke. report back.

Nah, I have a shaved head, they might think I was turning myself in.

 

[Abc123]

Ask the police eating at Chipotle why they keep their squad cars running while they ate. I guess you were just afraid and rather take picture and act self righteous on a Boating Forum.

I need to call my drug dealer and bitch to him that he's not giving me the good shit that you're obviously smoking.

 

[Abc123]

I am sure he is alright and would be ok to hang at the river with. emoji106




Ur very welcome. [emoji106][emoji106]

I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. Especially when I have only communicated with them through a key board.

 

[BDMar]

Many fire departments also do this, the trucks are plugged-in while in the station.

No opinion on the OP subject but I can say that the fire trucks as well as any big rig diesel, do not like to go through the heat up (expansion) and cool down (contraction) phase. It is much better on the engine to let it idle and it burns very little diesel.

 

[530RL]

In Arizona, if it is a K9 unit, by policy it must be left running otherwise the dog can die, like has happened several times. The public does not like it when a K9 dies in a hot car.

 

[Abc123]

In Arizona, if it is a K9 unit, by policy it must be left running otherwise the dog can die, like has happened several times. The public does not like it when a K9 dies in a hot car.

That was my 1st thought so I took a second look to see if either car was a K-9 unit.

 

[W.O.T]

If the car dies the windows automatically go down and the fan goes on for the dog.

 

[KNOTONDUTY]

I live in the Coachella Valley where it can get up to 115 outside and 150 inside the unit. We leave then running in the summer to keep them cool. We also have a new GPS/radio that drains out batteries wihtin about 30-45 mins if not running. Our department prefers we dont leave them running but sometimes its just necessary.

 

[Dalton]

Combat ops we never shut the trucks off, with all the electronics batteries are still an issue, who needs a starter or something stupid keeping it from restarting

 

[Backlash]

Entertaining thread to say the least! I think we've covered all the bases including meter maids, Chipotle, Starbucks and some excitement T&Y was able to enjoy at the cost of tax payers.

Some vehicles are equipped with a slow shutdown mode that means the audio/video equipment will stay running for some time even after the ignition and engine are turned off. The cameras and microphones and associated hardware do draw on the electrical system. And typically, the MDC/MDT's will shut down when the vehicles are turned off. Sometimes they turn off automatically and sometimes there is a delay. Either way, they too draw on the electrical system.

So, why we're the vehicles left running in the picture posted? Who knows. I surely wouldn't recommend it especially when you take into consideration how quick and easy it is to break a window and voil?; free cop car!

I would say officers/deputies leave them running for the climate control situation (K-9 or not), and to keep the computers up and running. Nothing worse than having a call come out on the radio and not having the computer up and running providing the officer with the details of the call...... Maps/GPS, call history at a house, suspect or vehicle description, etc. etc. etc.

But I would suggest something..... In the future, if someone has a question about something a cop may or may not be doing, ask them. Not all cops are dicks and not all cops are assholes. A lot of officers are proud of what they do and they are open to discuss just about anything related to law enforcement. Approach them when they aren't busy and ask them politely. If you are sincere and aren't coming across like a jerk, you might be surprised at the response you get.

 

[Scott E]

So, why we're the vehicles left running in the picture posted? Who knows. I surely wouldn't recommend it especially when you take into consideration how quick and easy it is to break a window and voil?; free cop car!

I went on a couple of ride-a-longs with my cousin when he was an LASD SGT in ELA. He was able to leave the car running but take the keys with him and therefore the car could not be taken out of park without the key being placed back in the ignition.

 

[gqchris]

When I was a rookie EMT working on an ambulance years ago, I got on a call and turned off the rig with the overhead lights on. 4 Minutes later, dead batteries and an embarrassing call to my Supervisor! Never made that mistake again. We also had a hidden button to lock the doors.

I have been on numerous ride a longs with my buddies. We never left the cars running.

True story, we were drinking at a local restaurant one night, and we notice Deputy Dog pulled up to sniff on the hostesses working on the front desk of the place. Of course, he leaves the car running. We were all seated on the patio, pounding drinks back. One of the guys in the group decides to teach the sniffer about keeping an eye on his car. He jumps in and drives off. We were just about shitting ourselves. 5 Mins later, officer Mack Daddy comes out, and kinda has this look like, "where the fuck did I park my car?". 10 seconds later, he runs off back into restaurant, white as a ghost.

Full code 3 response, every unit arrives and the Airship is hovering. We thought the car nabber was definitely tazed and hauled off.

Later that night, he calls and updates us. About 3 minutes into the ride, he sobers up REAL quick and decides, "this is really stupid!". He parks the car a few blocks away and walks along.

That story never gets old to tell, but Moral is, I wouldn't leave my shit running unless my lights were on and I could lock the doors!

 

[El Rojo]

we work on cop cars those things always need a jump start

 

[t&y]

I went on a couple of ride-a-longs with my cousin when he was an LASD SGT in ELA. He was able to leave the car running but take the keys with him and therefore the car could not be taken out of park without the key being placed back in the ignition.

That's called secure idle and most of our cars have this. I don't really like to leave it running, even with that feature, for other reason that I would not discuss on here. For the most part I turn the car off if I'm going to eat. I leave the windows down (only up if it's raining or if I'm interviewing someone generally) and get what I have to get. If I have time on a call to roll up the windows and lock the doors I do at times leave it running. Really it more or less comes down to habit. All the old school guys leave it running pretty much everywhere.

 

[BajaMike]

I sell "connected vehicle" solutions to public safety agencies, and it takes up to 4 minutes for everything to power up. A simple $90 industrial charge guard will allow all of their electronics to stay on for up to 2 hours after shutting of their vehicle. This device also measures the battery voltage and will shut everything off if to allow enough power to turn the vehicle back on if the voltage goes low enough. Most agencies pass on this option and would much rather waste gas. I typical full sized truck will waste a gallon of gas for every hour idling.

I call bull shit......a $90 "charge guard" will keep radios, repeaters, strobes, cardiac monitors and other equipment running for 2 hours without running down the battery? Post up a link on that device....I'd like one from my boat and my truck, and about 60 ambulances.

 

[BajaMike]

That was my 1st thought so I took a second look to see if either car was a K-9 unit.

"NiceGuyEddie", I don't know why you are so worried about cops leaving their cars running. Would you rather have a cop car idling for half an hour that can immediately respond to an emergency (maybe at your house because you are at the fast food restaurant monitoring cop cars), .......or would you rather have the cops be unable to respond right away (with a dead battery and dead computers and radios)??

I don't get your concern. There are priorities in life.....luckily our emergency services have experts who know what they are doing.....and luckily they are not interested in your nit-picking.

 

[spectra3279]

Tell me what tax you pay for my job that I don't.

Not trying to stir the pot. But your taxes really don't mean shit as your pay comes from taxes.

 

[was thatguy]

Not trying to stir the pot. But your taxes really don't mean shit as your pay comes from taxes.

NOW it's a party!