Where are these cheap states to live.

[LargeOrangeFont]

The polygamists are the best framers I’m told.

 

[angiebaby]

I went on a motorcycle trip a week ago through Reno, Carson City, Virginia City and Tahoe .... great ride seeing that part Nevada. Beautiful area! ... went through some really cool small towns ... surprising how Nevada just doesn't have a lot of people outside of the Vegas area...... for boating Lake Tahoe being about 30 min away from just about anywhere in this area..

There are a lot of lakes to boat on. Pyramid is about 30 minutes north of Reno and Lahontan is about 40 minutes east. It's a beautiful area. 4 seasons. Mostly conservative folks (Reno is questionable), great airport. Incredible off-roading, hiking, and other outdoor activities. It's windy, though.

 

[wzuber]

I haven't read all the responses.

In TN you do not have income tax. That was an 11-13% jump for us depending on how much money we made. Property tax is a lot less depending on what you have in CA. For example our 330k house in TN the property tax is about 2,200. Insurance is cheaper on the cars and house. Gas hovers around $3 ish a gal. Food seams to be cheaper except for beef. Liquor is a little more. Sales tax is about 9% depending on where you live. DMV is stupid cheap. I think I paid $29 a year for the 2021 Lexus.

Now with all that said we are retired and that probably makes it better. If you are working and have to take less pay then you have to figure that in.

This is true.
My brother bought property on indian lake inTN, Carrol county I believe (South Western portion of Tn.) They too have an agriculture exemption on parcels 9 (?) acres and above i believe. He bought 3- 3 acre wooded lots just above the dam in a development to attain his acreage. He has unobstructed lake views for ever as he knows it. Lots are cleared for house pad and rough graded, undergrounds are in up to the pad (?) I believe. The development is just across the street from the lake and ea. Lot came with a dock space in the marina. Marina is short walk/golf cart ride from his property.
He paid $75k ea lot about 15yrs ago. They have gone up some but nothing at all like everywhere else. He's an architect (retired) and plans to build a house he designed like fort knox. Thick concrete walls w/stone cladding, big basement for food storage etc. His plan is to grow his own vegis, corn etc and sell some at a local farmers market, just enough to qualify for the agg exemption. He's 65 yrs. old and not super healthy. He'd better get started soon before his heath window closes. Haha
This area is also just outside of the tornado zone and is a bit dryer climate then central and east TN
It sounds really nice and looks enticing from pix on the net. I've never been there. It's about 30 min. Drive to major cities w/shopping malls, good hospital etc. Maybe give it a look if quiet country like living appeals to you.

 

[X Hoser]

I disagree. I think Tennessee is a great place to live . . . in the eastern half. I'm not sure why you would say it's not. It's absolutely beautiful, the people are nice, the weather is moderate, tons of lakes and rivers, abundant hiking and mountain biking opportunities, good local music, breweries and distilleries, lots of small towns, or larger ones, if that's your thing. If our kids were not here in the West, eastern TN would be on our shortlist. Home prices have gone up, though, now that the word is out. Why do you think it's not a great place @Orange Juice ?

And I lived in Menifee for much of my adult life, I would not say you can't beat the weather in late July-early October most years. I hated it. I've found people often make these broad comments about how great "California" weather is, but what you really mean is the weather in "Southern California" within 20-30 miles inland from the coast. It's a really big state, and that is a very small portion of it. Is the weather in Indio great? Victorville? What about Susanville? Eureka? But, the great thing about this nation (and California) is it has a diverse landscape and climate. For people who love SoCal weather, awesome. It's there for you, with 24 million of your closest friends. I am sincerely happy you all love it

We have the place in North Idaho and just bought a lakefront lot on Douglas Lake in Eastern Tennessee. Not sure how quickly we will be able to build on it but felt we needed to buy one as the prices on lakefronts just keep going up! We have family, kids and grandkids in both states so hopefully we can have 2 places soon. Seeing a lot of reductions on house prices in Eastern Tennessee. Truth be known, they were overpriced to begin with. Lakefront properties just keep going up and selling quickly! Seems like no matter where we looked it was going to suck 3 months out of the year weather wise. Maybe between the two places we can minimize the effects.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Yup, Hurricane is just as bad as St George. Colorado city az and Hilldale Ut(30 min past Hurricane) still have opportunities but prices have come up a ton in the last couple of years. They used to be where the fundamentalist Morman church (polygamist) ran out of but it’s changed a lot since they have pretty much gotten out of there. It’s an incredibly pretty area.

I have driven through and past Colorado city/fredonia 5x in the last year. I wouldn't live there if it was free....lol There are still a ton of fundamentalists and like mentioned it kind of reminds me of a us version of mexico with the un kept streets and half built houses.

Like they say there is an ass for every seat. I like Hurricane area but the infrastructure and schools just weren't where I needed them to be. I like visiting but its not a place i wanted to raise kids. Really liked the Dixie springs area as it would match our lifestyle pretty well but at this point there just isn't enough around.

St.George/washington area feel like Orange county 40 years ago. For us its a great location as we aren't trying to get away from people and are smack dab in the middle of constantly running a 14 y/o around. We previously lived in Ivins and even that was a PITA with kids activities.

People that think this area is congested and has traffic have been out of southern california for a very long time or didn't have the commute we did...lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I have driven through and past Colorado city/fredonia 5x in the last year. I wouldn't live there if it was free....lol There are still a ton of fundamentalists and like mentioned it kind of reminds me of a us version of mexic with the un kept streets and half built houses.

Like they say there is an ass for every seat. I like Hurricane area but the infrastructure and schools just weren't where I needed them to be. I like visiting but its not a place i wanted to raise kids. Really liked the Dixie springs area as it would match our lifestyle pretty well but at this point there just isn't enough around.

St.George/washington area feel like Orange county 40 years ago. For us its a great location as we aren't trying to get away from people and are smack dab in the middle of constantly running a 14 y/o around. We previously lived in Ivins and even that was a PITA with kids activities.

People that think this area is congested and has traffic have been out of southern california for a very long time or didn't have the commute we did...lol

You’ve said too much already.

 

[Cole Trickle]

You’ve said too much already.

lol

 

[Done-it-again]

Man, you guys talk that Hurricane/Dixie springs are 100 miles from St George. It will be one complete city sooner than later and I'm sure its grown from when my parent's were looking 6 years ago.

 

[TonyFanelli]

The wife has been pulling up houses on realtor.com in the Mississippi Alabama Missouri areas. That 450k will get you a pretty nice house on some property but most cases it's out in the toolies

Been looking there too, by Branson MO ...Table Rock Resivore looks pert nice, and houses are reasonable...downside is the 98% humidity and the big ol bugs

 

[Racey]

I disagree. I think Tennessee is a great place to live . . . in the eastern half at least. I'm not sure why you would say it's not. It's absolutely beautiful, the people are nice, the weather is moderate, tons of lakes and rivers, abundant hiking and mountain biking opportunities, good local music, breweries and distilleries, lots of small towns, or larger ones, if that's your thing. If our kids were not here in the West, eastern TN would be on our shortlist. Home prices have gone up, though, now that the word is out. Why do you think it's not a great place @Orange Juice ?

And I lived in Menifee for much of my adult life, I would not say you can't beat the weather in late July-early October most years. I hated it. I've found people often make these broad comments about how great "California" weather is, but what you really mean is the weather in "Southern California" within 20-30 miles inland from the coast. It's a really big state, and that is a very small portion of it. Is the weather in Indio great? Victorville? What about Susanville? Eureka? But, the great thing about this nation (and California) is it has a diverse landscape and climate. For people who love SoCal weather, awesome. It's there for you, with 24 million of your closest friends. I am sincerely happy you all love it

Be grateful that OrangeJuice doesn't like it. that means you won't have to deal with another lib in your state

 

[Orange Juice]

I disagree. I think Tennessee is a great place to live . . . in the eastern half at least. I'm not sure why you would say it's not. It's absolutely beautiful, the people are nice, the weather is moderate, tons of lakes and rivers, abundant hiking and mountain biking opportunities, good local music, breweries and distilleries, lots of small towns, or larger ones, if that's your thing. If our kids were not here in the West, eastern TN would be on our shortlist. Home prices have gone up, though, now that the word is out. Why do you think it's not a great place @Orange Juice ?

And I lived in Menifee for much of my adult life, I would not say you can't beat the weather in late July-early October most years. I hated it. I've found people often make these broad comments about how great "California" weather is, but what you really mean is the weather in "Southern California" within 20-30 miles inland from the coast. It's a really big state, and that is a very small portion of it. Is the weather in Indio great? Victorville? What about Susanville? Eureka? But, the great thing about this nation (and California) is it has a diverse landscape and climate. For people who love SoCal weather, awesome. It's there for you, with 24 million of your closest friends. I am sincerely happy you all love it

I've lived in Jacksonville, Raliegh, Washington DC, Memphis, and one summer in New York, over 6 years of Navy assignments when I was young. I still occasionly travel for work, so that's how my perspective was formed. It rains too much. When it's not raining the bugs come out. Ice storms take out powerlines. Two lane 35mpg winding roads with stop signs causing backups. Selling a home can take 9 months, even if it's priced right, if your neighborhood is in a “white flight” transition.

If you are looking to replace that 1980 Menifee, 5-20 acre life style, I found the eastern Oklahoma area affordable, but there's no economy, and if you buy a property, it might take 1-2 years to sell it.

1717 Rose Ln, Eufaula, OK 74432 | MLS #2423565 | Zillow

This 2276 square feet Single Family home has 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is located at 1717 Rose Ln, Eufaula, OK.

www.zillow.com

 

[Orange Juice]

So is the weather just the standard answer about living in California?

Yes.

 

[Badchoices03]

The company I work for has a manufacturing plant in Marshfield, MO. they constantly struggle to find solid employees...I have thought of selling my house here, and I would be able to pay cash for something like this, put some money in the bank, and just work a 9-5 at the factory...and its only an hour drive to LOTO

1089 Short State Highway Y, Marshfield, MO 65706 | realtor.com®

1089 Short State Highway Y, Marshfield, MO 65706 is for sale. View 39 photos of this 3 bed, 2 bath, 1547 sqft. single family home with a list price of $250000.

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[Orange Juice]

The polygamists are the best framers I’m told.

Im sure your neighbors love you.

 

[JL95]

My buddy moved to biloxi MS, paid cash for 3bed/1bath for 88k, he tries to tell me how great it is, I tell him he is full of shit, but affordable for sure, 1 block from beach.

Biloxi is fun shitfaced drunk on the sidewalks but such a shithole lol aint no way.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

My best answer is.. just stay in California

 

[angiebaby]

Be grateful that OrangeJuice doesn't like it. that means you won't have to deal with another lib in your state

I don't live in TN, but I've visited a few times. We have some really close friends who are there. My state is too cold for anyone with Orange in his/her name. But, yes, I'm glad his type love SoCal. Montana's lib quota is maxxed.

I've lived in Jacksonville, Raliegh, Washington DC, Memphis, and one summer in New York, over 6 years of Navy assignments when I was young. I still occasionly travel for work, so that's my perspective was formed. It rains too much. When it's not raining the bugs come out. Ice storms take out powerlines. Two lane 35mpg winding roads with stop signs, causing backups. Selling a home can take 9 months, even if it's priced right, if your neighborhood is in a “white flight” transition.

If you are looking to replace that 1980 Menifee, 5-20 acre life style, I found the eastern Oklahoma area affordable, but there's no economy, and if you buy a property, it might take 1-2 years to sell it.

1717 Rose Ln, Eufaula, OK 74432 | MLS #2423565 | Zillow

This 2276 square feet Single Family home has 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is located at 1717 Rose Ln, Eufaula, OK.

www.zillow.com

Thanks. I appreciate your insight into OK. I'm perfectly happy where I'm at, though. I'm not looking to move. OK was never on any list, short or long. I don't dislike OK, my brother lives there, and it seems nice enough. I'm not into tornados, though. We've been through Memphis. We were not impressed. Nothing like the other side of the state. We've not noticed an extraordinary amount of bugs in Eastern TN, but maybe. We've been in late Oct and April, so that could have had something to do with it, but our friends said they don't have a big issue with bugs. They moved from Canyon Lake, CA, so I think if they had a lot in relation to where they were from, they would have mentioned it. It's green because it rains. Rain is also the reason they have lawns and beautiful flowering plants and no water restrictions. They can do laundry and take a shower on the same day But if you don't like rain, you are in the right place, as I stated before. It's good and brown in SoCal for 9 months of the year. There are a lot of different climates to choose from, which is one reason it is such an amazing nation.

 

[stoker2001]

s. It's windy, though.

MISERBLY windy is more like it

 

[77charger]

Man, you guys talk that Hurricane/Dixie springs are 100 miles from St George. It will be one complete city sooner than later and I'm sure its grown from when my parent's were looking 6 years ago.

We first started going to Powell in 86 and st George was smaller then as was hurricane but there was a gap of not much between them now they’re almost connected but agree it will be all stores homes and gas stations between then soon if not now.

Now in Phx so haven’t been that way in 4 years.

 

[Badchoices03]

but our friends said they don't have a big issue with bugs. They moved from Canyon Lake, CA, so I think if they had a lot in relation to where they were from, they would have mentioned it.

That makes it sound like there is a bunch of bugs around here and thats why they were used to it....lol...I dont see anything crazy like ive seen in TN, MO, and TX.

 

[angiebaby]

MISERBLY windy is more like it

A large reason for our move away from it. Truth.

 

[DC-88]

The polygamists are the best framers I’m told.

Getting the wood up 8 days a week

 

[CLdrinker]

My best answer is.. just stay in California

Honestly I have very much considered just buying a smaller house elsewhere and just bounce back and forth. The kids are homeschooled and wife is 100% remote. They could go back and forth as much as they wanted.
I keep making bank here and playing retirement catch up.

 

[MOUZER]

You willing to have more RDP members as neighbors or is it closed? Maybe I should grab a property there so I am covered once the Colorado goes dry and Parker is really closed.

my house has gone up do to so many people moving here ever since that stupid show affordable lakefront living in south carolina on the discovery channel but gas has gone down $2.79

 

[dribble]

My dad retired to Pahrump and it is quite a bit bigger and more built out than I would have expected. Not a bad option with 0% income tax as well

Some friends who don’t seem to think things out just moved to Pahrump, because of income taxes in CA. The problem is that most of their income is Social Security and he gets a pension of about 20K a year. They wouldn’t have been paying state income tax anyway.

They bought a 2 acre lot for 60K and are going to live in their RV. Since the lot has been vacant for 7 years the electric company says they have start a new service and run a new line. This is going to cost about 35K and they are told they are number 34 on the list. Meanwhile they are running their generators for electricity and getting water from a neighboring property.

Sad part is that they owned an older house in Sacramento with a nice new garage and kept their RV at home. Now they are looking to buy a couple of containers and construct and awning over them. All of our mutual friends here are just shaking their heads.

 

[LuauLounge]

Being in that age group, just living in CA and listening to the news drives you up the walls. The costs continue to rise and the state is looking for more, which just snowballs.
Great place if you have significant funds and live in an area that is unattractive to the homeless, tweeters and thieves. If you are able to isolate yourself from thinking about what it was just a decade or so ago, life is OK. If you only pay enough attention to the politicians hoping there are enough like minded folks to vote them out of office next election. You know that’s all a dream, but you keep hoping.
Or, you pack up and go. Great place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there. A state away and you leave a number of issues in the taillights. Love talking to the younger kids. Was at a Walgreens in Las Vegas and bought a bag of ice. The 20’s something clerk asked if I wanted a bag. I asked if they charged for them. She looked at me like I had lost my mind. I explained the Ca bag law. She double bagged my ice, smiled and wished me a good day.
The self centered, entitled, owe me attitude seems to decrease at an exponential rate the further you get moving east.
If you are on a fixed income that goes up very little in relation to the increase in what it costs you to live here and you find yourself falling behind or worse, falling further behind, you have to do something….even if it’s wrong.
For the folks moving to Pahrump, wish them well. At least they have friends to visit.

 

[77charger]

Been in az 3.5 years as far as cost of you bought a house then it was cheaper even with less pay.

Prop taxes are cheaper registration is cheaper and fuel is too. Groceries are about same sales tax about same. Electricity is cheaper but in summer you use more also but overall cheaper just not much.

I think anywhere would be same or offset somewhere texas is crazy prop tax. IMO like said if you can buy the house cheap then you are good. If not then it won’t be much different

With that said I do enjoy the outdoor activities here for what I do all 25 min away lake,shoot,ride.

 

[SKIA36]

i left calif 3 yrs ago after 60 yrs......................

2800 sq ft home on 1 acre $337k

gas 3.09 gal

taxs way cheaper

gated lake front community

private dock View attachment 1284716 View attachment 1284717

Where is this?

 

[TonyFanelli]

Where is this?

Is this in Missouri?

 

[shintoooo]

Where is this?

Is this in Missouri?

S. Carolina

 

[lakemadness]

Ohio, but then you’re living in Ohio

Ohio has a lot of cool places. Lake Erie also has some amazing boating, big water boating.

 

[Orange Juice]

Some friends who don’t seem to think things out just moved to Pahrump, because of income taxes in CA. The problem is that most of their income is Social Security and he gets a pension of about 20K a year. They wouldn’t have been paying state income tax anyway.

They bought a 2 acre lot for 60K and are going to live in their RV. Since the lot has been vacant for 7 years the electric company says they have start a new service and run a new line. This is going to cost about 35K and they are told they are number 34 on the list. Meanwhile they are running their generators for electricity and getting water from a neighboring property.

Sad part is that they owned an older house in Sacramento with a nice new garage and kept their RV at home. Now they are looking to buy a couple of containers and construct and awning over them. All of our mutual friends here are just shaking their heads.

Water, Food, and shelter. Once they get that waterline installed, and Electric, they can probably build a leach field for the sewer.

I could probably live that life style if I was drunk or high everyday.

 

[PDQH2O]

The better quality of life is almost immeasurable, let me tell you.

I spent the first year or so learning all the things that are perfectly legal and acceptable, where in SoCal it was all illegal. You mean to tell me that’s allowed here? Everything from vehicles to burning trash and brush, to building. Made my head spin!