What’s Happening at the SPEED Center….. aKa old Hastings Building

[LargeOrangeFont]

coming from you over the last year(s) only 'pretty good' seems odd. Do you need to share your feelings?

Since you didn’t know that there was another factory until a couple days ago, I don’t think you’ve gained any information since I stopped providing it

I’m happy with what I’ve seen and experienced regarding the early production cars for the extreme discount I’m getting. Look for prices to go up again next dirt season.

I said year(s) ago.. the longer these take to debut, the better off I (we) are.

I’m back to I don’t want the car until September/October 2023.

 

[TPC]

Who'da thunk it, including RG that almost 20.000 units would be ordered, let alone ordered so quickly?
Didn't say delivered quickly, I'm saying ordered first offering.

 

[RiverDave]

I can hear the whining, crying, and goalposts moving already

I can hear the click of a ban button happening

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I can hear the click of a ban button happening

Those rabble rousers should check themselves.

 

[riverroyal]

Since you didn’t know that there was another factory until a couple days ago, I don’t think you’ve gained any information since I stopped providing it

I’m happy with what I’ve seen and experienced regarding the early production cars for the extreme discount I’m getting. Look for prices to go up again next dirt season.

I said year(s) ago.. the longer these take to debut, the better off I (we) are.

I’m back to I don’t want the car until September/October 2023.

I knew about the factory, just didnt know he was still using Hisun.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I knew about the factory, just didnt know he was still using Hisun.

It’s always been Hisun. It’s always going to be Hisun unless they design a new car

 

[riverroyal]

I watched the video from Vietnam. Ive always been interested in factory assembly lines. The best is the Lambo Urus line. The speed line is pretty straight forward for the chassis. The weld robots are great. The lack of flash protection for workers is great also! They must be blind driving home

 

[BIGRED9158]

Oh boy here we go again

 

[riverroyal]

It’s always been Hisun. It’s always going to be Hisun unless they design a new car

noted. For some reason I though since Texas was a bust and Hisun may or may not have a version they parted ways. I was wrong.
The welds I saw in the video were substantially better than Polaris or Can am in looks. Typically its not a weld that fails, its the tubing at the weld.

 

[Backlash]

There isn't enough popcorn to go around!

 

[riverroyal]

popcorn, here we go again? WTF. What posts are me and LOF arguing or getting dramatic? Its THESE posts that start shit, I just figured out the problem.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

noted. For some reason I though since Texas was a bust and Hisun may or may not have a version they parted ways. I was wrong.
The welds I saw in the video were substantially better than Polaris or Can am in looks. Typically its not a weld that fails, its the tubing at the weld.

There is not a “Hisun Version” as it stands right now. Hisun North America themselves have said this. Will there be a Hisun branded car outside the US in the future? No idea. Personally I think there will be a Hisun version at some point outside the US or North America.
If there is, that has no bearing on the value of a Speed version here in the US.

None of us know what the distribution deal (if any) for the car looks like.

Texas just makes no logistical sense when you are scaling to 20k cars and beyond. They have said that they are looking for another site in AZ for almost 2 years. I think it’s cool they are doing it in Havasu.

 

[RiverDave]

There is not a “Hisun Version” as it stands right now. Hisun North America themselves has said this. Will there be a Hisun branded car outside the US in the future? No idea. None of us know what the distribution deal for the car looks like.

Texas just makes no logistical sense when you are scaling to 20k cars and beyond. They have said that they are looking for another site in AZ for almost 2 years. I think it’s cool they are doing it in Havasu.

They have a site in Havasu now. It’s a large plot of land over by the airport.

 

[riverroyal]

if the acreage that was purchased is for final assemble etc that would be great. Obviously a long ways out.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

if the acreage that was purchased is for final assemble etc that would be great. Obviously a long ways out.

That is what they stated the intent is.

 

[RiverDave]

if the acreage that was purchased is for final assemble etc that would be great. Obviously a long ways out.

Pretty sure that’s the plan. I can’t see a giant facility like he’s planning for any other reason?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Pretty sure that’s the plan. I can’t see a giant facility like he’s planning for any other reason?

Yes. Having the mother ship in town is a great reason to own one of these cars in Havasu. Best chance of getting parts.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

popcorn, here we go again? WTF. What posts are me and LOF arguing or getting dramatic? Its THESE posts that start shit, I just figured out the problem.

Pretty much, yes.

 

[LuauLounge]

How do you set up a manufacturing facility to produce a product in one country, more it to another and yet, another in a matter of months?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

How do you set up a manufacturing facility to produce a product in one country, more it to another and yet, another in a matter of months?

Because they didn’t do it in a matter of months. They just chose to tell the public their plans after they were already in motion.

Speed has always said that assembly in China was not permanent. All they said was that the first couple hundred would be built there.

 

[riverroyal]

How do you set up a manufacturing facility to produce a product in one country, more it to another and yet, another in a matter of months?

did you watch the video? It is damn near a empty warehouse with welding machines. All they need is pipe and welding machines to program. I haven't seen if more assembly is happening in Vietnam or just chassis. I bet they have 20 people max building these things
Vietnam has become a huge supplier of tubing and pipe. HUGE.
The video said 12 minutes per chassis. Im not sure if that means 12 minutes per units rolling out final done done

 

[RiverDave]

How do you set up a manufacturing facility to produce a product in one country, more it to another and yet, another in a matter of months?

Hisun has many facilities most of which are capable of producing this car

 

[Bpracing1127]

Hisun has many facilities most of which are capable of producing this car

The tooling, setup, shipping of components not made in said country that is major change. None of it makes sense at all.

 

[Bpracing1127]

did you watch the video? It is damn near a empty warehouse with welding machines. All they need is pipe and welding machines to program. I haven't seen if more assembly is happening in Vietnam or just chassis. I bet they have 20 people max building these things
Vietnam has become a huge supplier of tubing and pipe. HUGE.
The video said 12 minutes per chassis. Im not sure if that means 12 minutes per units rolling out final done done

I noticed it was very bare too. I’m suspecting that to the stop ship issue so they were only getting started again cuz Robby was in country.

It feel like Hisun made a deal, here we will make these on Saturday in our spare time lmao

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I noticed it was very bare too. I’m suspecting that to the stop ship issue so they were only getting started again cuz Robby was in country.

It feel like Hisun made a deal, here we will make these on Saturday in our spare time lmao

Hisun makes more stuff on a Saturday than Polaris makes in a month..

 

[pixrthis]

Hisun makes more stuff on a Saturday than Polaris makes in a month..

So now you’re the Hisun expert too? Cool

 

[riverroyal]

none of Saturday stuff is as much fun to talk about. So i disagree

 

[hallett21]

I can’t imagine picking up and moving the material, tooling etc. Obviously has been happening behind the scenes but that’s a lot of work.

Is Vietnam more friendly for US imports?

 

[HCP3]

I can hear the whining, crying, and goalposts moving already

That didn't take long.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So now you’re the Hisun expert too? Cool

Attitudes like this go in the other thread.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I can’t imagine picking up and moving the material, tooling etc. Obviously has been happening behind the scenes but that’s a lot of work.

Is Vietnam more friendly for US imports?

No tariffs for one, right off the top.

 

[pixrthis]

Attitudes like this go in the other thread.

You post as if you know things to be fact when in fact you’re surmising or hoping. That’s cool too, we get it’s just the way you roll and I personally find it funny in a Cliff Clavin kind of way. Cheers LOF

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You post as if you know things to be fact when in fact you’re surmising or hoping. That’s cool too, we get it’s just the way you roll and I personally find it funny in a Cliff Clavin kind of way. Cheers LOF

Like I said, take the crying and arguments based on hurt feelings to the other thread. Or prove me wrong.

Hisun builds more stuff than Polaris, period.

Cheers!

 

[Singleton]

No tariffs for one, right off the top.

Are you sure.
Most items imported from Vietnam to the US are subject to a 0-25% import tariff, depending on their category

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Are you sure.
Most items imported from Vietnam to the US are subject to a 0-25% import tariff, depending on their category

So what category are they? Keep in mind They aren’t even being shipped over “complete”

 

[Singleton]

So what category are they? Keep in mind They aren’t even being shipped over “complete”

Not sure and not going to research that.
But if it was a huge savings the larger SXS manufacturers would be doing the same IMO.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not sure and not going to research that.
But if it was a huge savings the larger SXS manufacturers would be doing the same IMO.

Agreed. I simply don’t care. I bought a car, for $32k and their only task is to deliver it. I don’t get to tell them how and where to build it.

If you already have the factory there that changes things.

If it was cheaper to do in Mexico, they probably would . Hisun does this every day. They probably know the COGS and tariffs better than you or me.

 

[JJ McClure]

Well. I guess I’m out of this Speed Car thread too. I only hang around here for the entertainment. You know, humor.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Well. I guess I’m out of this Speed Car thread too. I only hang around here for the entertainment. You know, humor.

Speed thread humor left the building when different people had to abide by different rules.

 

[JJ McClure]

What’s wrong with unwatch button RD?

 

[RiverDave]

Hisun makes more stuff on a Saturday than Polaris makes in a month..

Chinese import tariffs

I get you want to be the expert on all things.. but seriously you are a lot of your wheelhouse..

WTF could possibly qualify either of these statements?

 

[RiverDave]

Speed thread humor left the building when different people had to abide by different rules.

The only person having to abide by different rules is you. You aren’t gonna turn this back into the other threads..

Everyone else is gonna abide by the same rule, which is if they are being cocksuckers to be cocksuckers they are gonna get throated by the mods until they learn to play gentle like

 

[retaocleg]

wish there were more "made in america" guys.......stuff made here buoys the economy, puts americans to work........but seems that once some get their bag, they are in the everybody for themselves mentality......sad

as for build lag, anyone familiar with building something from scratch, it is tough, you are only as fast as your slowest supplier.......build dates can get whacked quickly

so from what i just read, they are looking to assemble here? sorry i didnt read the previous pages, but i cant take all the opinion bickering nonsense.....

 

[4Waters]

 

[daytona man]

So now you’re the Hisun expert too? Cool

I would think you would have figured it out by know that he is a expert on everything and anything !

 

[Wheeler]

Hisun has many facilities most of which are capable of producing this car

How many manufacturing facilities does Hisun own?

 

[Deckin Around]

not sure if this one was posted yet, i was impressed with this video he actually has finished cars with numbers and lines of fully assembled waiting for gear boxes

Robby Gordon on Instagram: "Nothing to see here just a bunch of plastic covered cars waiting for the new Transmissions 🤪 I was hoping to show you a active assembly line but gear boxes are still 5 days away and cars will ship before the end of the mon

2,624 likes, 141 comments - robbygordon on March 24, 2023: "Nothing to see here just a bunch of plastic covered cars waiting for the new Transmissions 🤪 I was hoping to show you a active assembly line but gear boxes are still 5 days away and cars will ship before the end of the month 🎉🔥😜".

www.instagram.com

 

[Singleton]

not sure if this one was posted yet, i was impressed with this video he actually has finished cars with numbers and lines of fully assembled waiting for gear boxes

Robby Gordon on Instagram: "Nothing to see here just a bunch of plastic covered cars waiting for the new Transmissions 🤪 I was hoping to show you a active assembly line but gear boxes are still 5 days away and cars will ship before the end of the mon

2,624 likes, 141 comments - robbygordon on March 24, 2023: "Nothing to see here just a bunch of plastic covered cars waiting for the new Transmissions 🤪 I was hoping to show you a active assembly line but gear boxes are still 5 days away and cars will ship before the end of the month 🎉🔥😜".

www.instagram.com

One of his most honest videos.
If they were all like this, the attitudes would be different IMO.
Only concern, if the case thickness was off (should be 6, was 1.5), what else was done wrong?
Hope the QA an entire car that comes off the line once started again and QA everything

 

[Deckin Around]

Only concern, if the case thickness was off (should be 6, was 1.5), what else was done wrong?
Hope the QA an entire car that comes off the line once started again and QA everything

1000% agree, my thoughts also. that’s not a little miss.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I get you want to be the expert on all things.. but seriously you are a lot of your wheelhouse..

WTF could possibly qualify either of these statements?

This site is full of experts on all things. Facts qualify the statements Dave. Hisun makes and imports more things into this country than Polaris, or Can Am.

The tarrifs from China are higher than other countries that are able to make the cars. This isn’t my “wheelhouse” it is simple research, business 101, and listening to the available information.

The only person having to abide by different rules is you. You aren’t gonna turn this back into the other threads..

Everyone else is gonna abide by the same rule, which is if they are being cocksuckers to be cocksuckers they are gonna get throated by the mods until they learn to play gentle like

Exactly my point Dave. Why are there different rules for me, but everyone has to abide by the same rules?

The other thread went the exact same direction without my participation. I didn’t turn any of the other threads into anything on my own.