Ukraine - Its official Putin just showed the world that NATO is a Bitch

[Blackmagic94]

Here's my take on what might unfold. Putin is backing the Russian sympathizer population in Eastern Ukraine to set up a buffer[ I'm quite sure larger percentage compared to Ukranians there now, since the Crimea deal ] and will wait it out to see a new, friendlier Ukranian president replacing the one in charge as of now. Don't think Putin wants to take whole Ukraine, he knows that might take to a real war, rest of Europe join in. Ego or not ,he's not stupid.
When we had the 1956 Hungarian Revolution, the USA and the allies hands were tied, hence Hungary was part of the Warsaw Pact. I remember during the fights in my old country, freedom fighters pleading on radio broadcast for help against the Russians. It never came in form of weapons. Only saw Red Cross, distributing new/used clothes donated from various western countries. After the fights ended, Russian solders at various locations handing out Swiss chocolate to kids like me, standing around their armoured vehicles. Arming the Ukraine with even more lethal weaponry, would prolong fighting much longer, taking out civilians, no one wants to see.
Our uprising in 1956 was over relatively quick, still resulting loss of lives of freedom fighters, Relatively low civilian casualties, we all hunkered down in the shelters.
Still, it was a long time for Hungary to rid of Russian occupation until 1989, but daily lives and less political hardship was easing slowly, bit by bit.
Moving into Ukraine with NATO troops would be suicidal, not warranted to start WW3.

One of my memories I never forget, there was a headquarter of Russian troops near our apartment we walked over to during ceasefire. As most kids, we were admiring military related stuff, we were visiting this headquarter and befriended a Russian who invited me and my buddy to look inside his armored vehicle. He's name was Bob. We went to see him again days later and was told, he was transferred, lol.
Don't forget, there were as young as 14-15 yrs old who joined the revolutionaries. One of my neighbour too, who we never seen him again, after it was all over.

Only problem is Putin declared the break away regions further west then the current front line area, so he claimed the entire states and not just the actual control regions He has to push a hundred plus kilometers to get to what he just claimed and the Ukrainian defense forces are not gonna just sit there and take that. Expect 122mm Grads to start shelling first.

 

[just_floatin]

Dr. Oz injecting his non medical advice on the situation.

 

[spectras only]

Dr OZ should recommend sending Covid 20 to Russia, dropped from a U2

 

[MPHSystems]

Biden is speaking to Putin now! He even said “let me be clear” then said something mushier than oatmeal.


Bet he’s shaking in his boots!

 

[RiverDave]

MAYBE....

The brainwashing is real..

RD

 

[just_floatin]

What would happen if Russia, NATO, and China started blasting Satellites, with lasers, in space?

Maybe that rocket, expected to land on the “dark side of the moon” next week, is a military project….. code named “MoonRaker”. Look it up…. Wag the dog……wag the dog.

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WoW. Keep us posted there code name “WTD” on your next Q notification from John Kennedy. Never thought it through that far down the rabbit hole. Good on you .

If you do get a minute, look up the definition of Business Continuity Planning (BCP). I may know a little bit about this process should there by cyber attack on FINTECH apps from aliens or lizard people.

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

The only difference between now and 1939 is now, this country is full of liberal, woke, pussy ass liberals. There is no love of country and we have become spoiled, little bitches whining about everything and entitlement. Unlike in 1939, when the whole country had a reason and will to fight! If things greatly escalate with this situation the United States as we have known it since WW2 will be vastly different.

 

[RVR SWPR]

Just for the hell of it,right now Trump & Family and entourage should take up residence in his 5 Star Hotel just down the street from White House in DC.

 

[just_floatin]

Brandon reading from the teleprompter. I feel safer now

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496208061731680260

 

[spectra3279]

If and when war breaks in the Ukraine. Riddle me this, is it below this administration to attack from within to obtain support from the American people like 9/11? We are all about to find out as the big war machine is back in motion.

I would not rule it out

 

[just_floatin]

I would not rule it out

Cyber attack is my thinking. Brandon stated above “millions impacted.”

 

[Member: 71]

Keep an eye on Taiwan, I'm sure Xi is licking his chops waiting for a good distraction.

 

[4czn10]

Then there's this...​

BOOTS-and-SPURS​

ti0pn2f5hh1sfi8hg6tt03958edc ·
It is important!
For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “
This is why Ukraine matters.
It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population
of over 40 million - more than Poland.
Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)
Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.
Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.
Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).
Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

I posted a thread in the P&G section after President Biden took office, inviting others to look back at history and consider a couple of "What if" scenarios. This is added here respectfully, just for people to think a bit.

-What if President Biden and VP Harris had been in office in December of 1941.
Imagine the call from the Pentagon to the White House to alert them about the message...
"Air Raid Pearl Harbor, this is no Drill"
Imagine President Biden giving the Speech to the Joint Session of Congress the following day.
Then, imagine him conferring with his advisors, meaning those now in position as VP, Sec Def, Sec State, the Joint Chiefs, etc, on how to proceed.
Imagine him passing when FDR did, and VP Harris making the decision to drop the bomb that Harry Truman made.

Or, plug those same folks into the same positions on 9-11-2001.
Frankly, it scares the hell out of me to think about the possibilities.
The chain of events unfolding in Europe isn't at those levels. Yet. I think our adversaries are very adept at measuring the strength of leadership in this country, and this is why we are faced with this situation now. I am convinced that there will be further steps, and also convinced Russia and China are working together. I will be surprised if China does not follow suit against Taiwan.

If that balloon goes up we are in serious trouble, to put it mildly.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Then there's this...​

BOOTS-and-SPURS​

ti0pn2f5hh1sfi8hg6tt03958edc ·
It is important!
For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “
This is why Ukraine matters.
It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population
of over 40 million - more than Poland.
Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)
Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.
Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.
Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).
Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.

This is all MUCH more important to the Europeans (and Russians) than it is to the states.

If Ukraine is so important then why weren't they invited to join the EU?

Why isn't Europe doing more to help them?

If the Europeans aren't going to stand up for it why should we?

We need to stay the F out of this one.

 

[4czn10]

This is all MUCH more important to the Europeans (and Russians) than it is to the states.

If Ukraine is so important then why weren't they invited to join the EU?

Why isn't Europe doing more to help them?

If the Europeans aren't going to stand up for it why should we?

We need to stay the F out of this one.

I totally agree. I'm just stating why it's important to Russia!

 

[Havasu blue label]

Exactly great call nothing to put on table

 

[Havasu blue label]

Poland is waiting

 

[RVR SWPR]

Poland is waiting

Waiting for what? History says might not want fuck with Poland when it comes to determination of the people & leadership. Polish jokes might entertain some morons,facts support entire polish population is United.

 

[TCHB]

The only difference between now and 1939 is now, this country is full of liberal, woke, pussy ass liberals. There is no love of country and we have become spoiled, little bitches whining about everything and entitlement. Unlike in 1939, when the whole country had a reason and will to fight! If things greatly escalate with this situation the United States as we have known it since WW2 will be vastly different.

When a country is divided it is weak!

 

[playdeep]

When a country is divided it is weak!

I give you the United States as exhibit A...

 

[MPHSystems]

Peace in our time

about as good now as it was 90 years ago.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

The only difference between now and 1939 is now, this country is full of liberal, woke, pussy ass liberals. There is no love of country and we have become spoiled, little bitches whining about everything and entitlement. Unlike in 1939, when the whole country had a reason and will to fight! If things greatly escalate with this situation the United States as we have known it since WW2 will be vastly different.

Think about this..... the last nation-engulfing war was WWII really, also I believe it was the last true War as Congress must declare it, not the president. And there not long before that there was WWI. And only about 50 years before that was the Civil war and before that all the smaller wars and battles that kept this nation so busy after the Revolutionary War. Until now....

This is the first time in American History where that hasn't been an actual war for over 50 years. There are not enough people left to teach the younger generations and pass down the national pride and what other countries are capable of doing to us and our neighbors.

Obviously there are many that understand, or have seen battle, or have that national pride, but the percentage is soon much lower than it has EVER been in our nation's past. And you know other country leaders see that now too.

 

[ikester]

There is nothing to worry about...... Biden has got this !!!! We are in good hands.

 

[RitcheyRch]

There is nothing to worry about...... Biden has got this !!!! We are in good hands.

His hands might be good but his mind is shot.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Lets not forget our own history.

Romney VS Obama in 2012 - the dems laughed at Romney depicting him as out of touch with the cold war over.

Romney absolutely called this one right - twice, once in 2014 and now.

 

[Racey]

 

[retaocleg]

covering up the implosion of the economy.........

 

[Desert Whaler]

Well, since countries seem to be up for grabs, I'd like to see the US take the whole Baja Peninsula.
Buld a couple dozen de-salinization plants along the pacific and Sea of Cortez coasts, and 'voila' let the developers get their rocks off on all that pristine water front land !
Then little by little march our way down through the states of Sonora, Chihuahua, Sinaloa, and Durango . . . then draw a straight line from Cabo to the southern tip of Texas, build a wall and say, 'There you go fuckers, you can HAVE the rest, . . . until next time" !

 

[NorCalRiverRat]

the whole Baja Peninsula...yeah all that offroading, all the surf spots..what could go wrong ? do you think anyone would apply for welfare....

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[JUSTWANNARACE]

the whole Baja Peninsula...yeah all that offroading, all the surf spots..what could go wrong ? do you think anyone would apply for welfare....

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You dont need "surf spots and offroading" to sign up for welfare. Actually I think intercitys would beat out any beach town for people on welfare, hands down!!

 

[NorCalRiverRat]

You dont need "surf spots and offroading" to sign up for welfare. Actually I think intercitys would beat out any beach town for people on welfare, hands down!!

yeah, but I think what desert whaler is saying Invade Baja Peninsula. when you invade a country you inherit whoever is living there. they would have access to americas good will...

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[77hallett]

At the end of the day, you can make your assumptions as to who will make what move next or how it will all play out. Either way, it’s not good. We have numerous assets in the region as a deterrence should this get even more out of hand. That’s all that I’ll say about that. Standby to standby.

 

[OCMerrill]

Waiting for what? History says might not want fuck with Poland when it comes to determination of the people & leadership. Polish jokes might entertain some morons,facts support entire polish population is United.

Biden sent 800 troops into Poland along with 8 drones. Don't worry, we got this.....gulp.

Anyone that has an 18-25 year old son you bet he's paying attention to this bullshit. My son is like a walking news outlet.

 

[badgas]

Can't we all just get along ?

 

[RiverDave]

The only difference between now and 1939 is now, this country is full of liberal, woke, pussy ass liberals. There is no love of country and we have become spoiled, little bitches whining about everything and entitlement. Unlike in 1939, when the whole country had a reason and will to fight! If things greatly escalate with this situation the United States as we have known it since WW2 will be vastly different.

Out of all the problems I see with this. This would be the only benefit to it.. If we goto legit war, America’s tolerance for the woke left is going to get pretty small pretty quick.

 

[MPHSystems]

5.27 in San Gabriel valley crazy

Thats what it was 3 weeks ago in needless CA, I wonder what it is there today.

 

[just_floatin]

Not just Bidens! Kerry, Romney, Clintons, Pelosi, Soros are ALL tied to Ukraine * WorldNetDaily * by WND Staff

Joe Biden, John Kerry, Mitt Romney, the Clintons, Speaker Pelosi and George Soros all have possibly corrupt connections to Ukraine

www.wnd.com

 

[rivrrts429]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496351260110462976

 

[HB2Havasu]

The lefts plan to distract all Americans from Biden’s failed policies here at home and instead have us hate on Russia seems to be working. Haven’t heard a peep even from Conservative Media in the last few days in regards to the Southern Border Crisis, Out of Control Inflation, 50% raise in Crime, Vaccine Mandates for a vaccine that doesn’t stop Covid Transmission, etc…. But go ahead and keep your eyes on Russia, lol

 

[just_floatin]

RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. It just never gets old.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496335689059008515

 

[Xring01]

 

[MPHSystems]

 

[just_floatin]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496512583100211200

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496555395485208580

 

[JD D05]

We have sent 11,000. Hill AFB was sending F-35's all through the night next last week. Driving into Vegas last Thursday the sky looked like a hornets nest from Nellis.

 

[TeamGreene]

S King is a douche bag

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496512583100211200

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496555395485208580

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I don't know why, but I always imagine these Hollywood elites as the orchestra that keeps playing as the ship sinks. So much evidence that the ship is sinking, but they keep playing until their death. You made a mistake, give it up.

 

[just_floatin]

UKRAINE Nancy UKRAINE. We are so doomed!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496537971474014213

 

[MPHSystems]

UKRAINE Nancy UKRAINE. We are so doomed!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496537971474014213

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If Pelosi was banging hawt….

 

[HotRod82]

We have sent 11,000. Hill AFB was sending F-35's all through the night next last week. Driving into Vegas last Thursday the sky looked like a hornets nest from Nellis.

I heard the same thing from a friend in Vegas, also heard F16's out of Kirkland too. If we have US jets actually hitting Russian tanks, shit will get out of hand and the Nukes will come out. We may really find out if those Russian hypersonic missiles are unstoppable or not.....