TWO NEW WILD CATS AT CHEETAH...

[2FORCEFULL]

LOOKS LIKE THE NEW OWNER IS MOVING RIGHT ALONG,..he has 2 wild cats layed up, one is out of the mold... didn't get any pics.... but sure looks nice...

 

[TCHB]

Are these boats laid up any different than Advantage, Conquest or other decks?

 

[guest hs]

I highly doubt they are laid up anything like Advantage’s unless the new owner changed up their lamination and material schedule.

 

[fmo24]

The lamination schedule is probably similar it’s the details in rigging that make the difference

 

[Tooned Up]

The lamination schedule is probably similar it’s the details in rigging that make the difference

Unless the new owner has changed it, I would have to highly disagree. I absolutely loved my Cheetah and do not have one bad thing to say about them, it was nowhere in the ballpark of quality of my Conquest in any facet whatsoever.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Unless the new owner has changed it, I would have to highly disagree. I absolutely loved my Cheetah and do not have one bad thing to say about them, it was nowhere in the ballpark of quality of my Conquest in any facet whatsoever.

what year cheetah ddid you have???

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I highly doubt they are laid up anything like Advantage’s unless the new owner changed up their lamination and material schedule.

the same guy that does advantage does cheetah...

 

[guest hs]

Cheetah boats are not laid up at Advantage

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Are these boats laid up any different than Advantage, Conquest or other decks?

no

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Cheetah boats are not laid up at Advantage

same guy does them out of the booth he has next to cheetah, and has for years...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

cheetah hasn't laidup

Unless the new owner has changed it, I would have to highly disagree. I absolutely loved my Cheetah and do not have one bad thing to say about them, it was nowhere in the ballpark of quality of my Conquest in any facet whatsoever.

probley the difference between a 50k boat and a over 100k boat...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I highly doubt they are laid up anything like Advantage’s unless the new owner changed up their lamination and material schedule.

gary lench used to do them,,, same guy that did e-ticket,... when I talk'd to him he said it was exzact the same materials and layup

 

[2FORCEFULL]

here's some worthless facts... the same guy that splash'd my wifes cheetah 3 times is the same guy that just laid up the new magic deck, and is the same guy that just laidup the 2 cheetahs..

 

[westair]

Who’s the new owner ....Was he an employee there?

 

[Brobee]

Who’s the new owner ....Was he an employee there?

Looks like he’s introducing himself here.
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[beaverretriever]

Cheetah, the Jaguar of boats.

Always thought that Wild Cat was a clean looking deck.

Your better half ( wife ) is famous 2FF https://cheetahpowerboats.com/26-wildcat/

 

[guest hs]

gary lench used to do them,,, same guy that did e-ticket,... when I talk'd to him he said it was exzact the same materials and layup

With all do respect Steve I have been an Advantage dealer for 20 years and my son works in the glass dept. at Advantage. Gary Lench did work there at one time but there is no way in hell that Cheetahs materials and lamination process are even close to Advantage. This was also quoted by Scott owner of Advantage minutes ago via phone conversation between my son and him.

 

[Andy B.]

With all do respect Steve I have been an Advantage dealer for 20 years and my son works in the glass dept. at Advantage. Gary Lench did work there at one time but there is no way in hell that Cheetahs materials and lamination process are even close to Advantage. This was also quoted by Scott owner of Advantage minutes ago via phone conversation between my son and him.

No way in hell close seems a little harsh so that must mean after a few years they fall apart and are not sea worthy? Don't get me wrong I would love to have an advatage,nordic,elimonator but you are constantly bad mouthing them why all the hate? I've been on a few and they actually ride pretty good on the water.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

With all do respect Steve I have been an Advantage dealer for 20 years and my son works in the glass dept. at Advantage. Gary Lench did work there at one time but there is no way in hell that Cheetahs materials and lamination process are even close to Advantage. This was also quoted by Scott owner of Advantage minutes ago via phone conversation between my son and him.

what I said, or ment to say was tis.... gary lench used to do the lay ups for cheetah,...then when he closed..the guy from advantage started doing them in the booth next to cheetah... and uis still there.. he say he lays then all up the same also.... doesn't make any sense for them to do some sub stanard when they are the ones that have to stand behind the hull.... when lench was in business, he show me... all the same resin and glass..

 

[guest hs]

I’m just going to leave it at this You get what you pay for! If you want to think a Cheetah is laid up as good as an Advantage then so be it.

 

[rivrrts429]

I’m just going to leave it at this You get what you pay for! If you want to think a Cheetah is laid up as good as an Advantage then so be it.

Cheetah is under new ownership and the guy sounds eager to build a quality product.

More boat builders is a good thing. It’s good for the industry, and more importantly, it’s good for the consumer. Cheetah will keep employees employed in an industry that is extremely susceptible to the economy.

It could be equally argued, depending on price point and the type of buyer, that you “get what you pay for” when buying an Advantage too.

No reason to go so hard at a builder, no matter the quality, who has developed a decent boat and created a respectable customer base just as Advantage has created.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I’m just going to leave it at this You get what you pay for! If you want to think a Cheetah is laid up as good as an Advantage then so be it.

point I was making is Cheetah doesn't, and hasn't layed up thir hulls in years,... I think they quit when they moved to the campbell building,...

 

[hallett21]

Lol let the guy get out of the gate Geezus.

If they are subbing out their lamination, then sounds like you can build them to whatever spec you want.


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[LargeOrangeFont]

No way in hell close seems a little harsh so that must mean after a few years they fall apart and are not sea worthy? Don't get me wrong I would love to have an advatage,nordic,elimonator but you are constantly bad mouthing them why all the hate? I've been on a few and they actually ride pretty good on the water.

My friends Cheetah is 20 years old and has 700+ hours. The Gelcoat got oxidized, but the hull is solid. Boat is rock solid, not a stress crack on the thing.

 

[hallett21]

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[RiverDave]

With all do respect Steve I have been an Advantage dealer for 20 years and my son works in the glass dept. at Advantage. Gary Lench did work there at one time but there is no way in hell that Cheetahs materials and lamination process are even close to Advantage. This was also quoted by Scott owner of Advantage minutes ago via phone conversation between my son and him.

Scott is the owner of Advantage? I thought Debbie owned it?

 

[RiverDave]

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I’m assuming you’re joking? Pretty ruthless if ya aren’t.

 

[hallett21]

I’m assuming you’re joking? Pretty ruthless if ya aren’t.

Yes sorry. Doing my best to not muck up a new builders venture


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[DRYHEAT]

Yes sorry. Doing my best to not muck up a new builders venture


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You just forgot the sarcastic smileys

Have known a lot of people over the years with Cheetah Boats that have been very happy with them.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

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Looks like I missed the fun.

 

[hallett21]

Looks like I missed the fun.

I said it was a complete piece of shit in jest.

Seriously if a family is out on the water that’s all that matters. Never have I felt the need to tell anyone why their boat is beneath someone else’s.

I have no problem explaining what a certain builder does that makes it excel beyond “average”.

Cheetahs get bashed all day long but then someone like your buddy comes along and shows it can give a family years of fun and happiness.

I hope the new owners can turn out a quality boat at a fair price. [emoji41][emoji1303]


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[LargeOrangeFont]

I said it was a complete piece of shit in jest.

Seriously if a family is out on the water that’s all that matters. Never have I felt the need to tell anyone why their boat is beneath someone else’s.

I have no problem explaining what a certain builder does that makes it excel beyond “average”.

Cheetahs get bashed all day long but then someone like your buddy comes along and shows it can give a family years of fun and happiness.

I hope the new owners can turn out a quality boat at a fair price. [emoji41][emoji1303]


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Truth. But let’s get real, Cheetahs do not have the resale of a Cobra..

They aren’t perfect, and they are a cheaper for a few reasons. I still don’t get the wood screws though.

His interior redo was basically a gut job and cost almost 2x normal because they didn’t resin any of the wood and all of it was trash after 20 years. All the wood was replaced, resin coated, and all stainless hardware was used.

He had the gel redone last year.. damn thing is almost a new boat now.

I’ve crawled all over a couple Wildcats.. I wouldn’t hesitate to get one, but I’d put a little more money into the interior if I built a new one for myself.

 

[HCP3]

Looks like I missed the fun.

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[hallett21]

Truth. But let’s get real, Cheetahs do not have the resale of a Cobra..

They aren’t perfect, and they are a cheaper for a few reasons. I still don’t get the wood screws though.

His interior redo was basically a gut job and cost almost 2x normal because they didn’t resin any of the wood and all of it was trash after 20 years. All the wood was replaced, resin coated, and all stainless hardware was used.

He had the gel redone last year.. damn thing is almost a new boat now.

I’ve crawled all over a couple Wildcats.. I wouldn’t hesitate to get one, but I’d put a little more money into the interior if I built a new one for myself.

Bet he’s money ahead all in.

Don’t get me wrong I’m a Hallett snob with a 30 year old boat but that’s besides the point.


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[guest hs]

Scott is the owner of Advantage? I thought Debbie owned it?

Scott and Debbie are partners. Ray Camero use to be be Harry and Debbies partner when he retired Scott bought into the business.

 

[941Punk]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Bet he’s money ahead all in.

Don’t get me wrong I’m a Hallett snob with a 30 year old boat but that’s besides the point.


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I don’t think he cares about being money ahead really. It is just that upgrading requires a large investment. He just wants a reliable boat. In the end these Havasu boats are just large floating ice chests and stereos. A good day is just getting safely from place to place.

He bought it when it was 18 months old for $30k or something. He’s got money to upgrade to a better boat, but fixing up a known solid boat in this market is the easiest way to go.

At his boats price point, he has probably turned a $12k boat into a $18-$20k boat if he wanted to sell it.

 

[westair]

Are these boats laid up any different than Advantage, Conquest or other decks?

It sure would be nice to hear from someone that really knows how this process is done ..... and what are the different standards or levels of quality. Maybe cheetahs new owner will come on here and shed some light on this argument going way back to hotboat days.

 

[RCDave]

Vinylester chopper gun gig!!! JK. Lol

 

[HCP3]

Conquest 4 Lyfe.

 

[TCHB]

I hope the new owner does well and I think most boat builders know what they are doing when it comes to laying up a boat. When you step up to the high end boats like DCB, DW and others that is a whole new game. I have also seen many old old Cheetah boats running around still in one piece. I have see Steve’s boat many times and it is straight and the get looks great. Sue’s boat does run!!!!!!!

 

[TCHB]

It sure would be nice to hear from someone that really knows how this process is done ..... and what are the different standards or levels of quality. Maybe cheetahs new owner will come on here and shed some light on this argument going way back to hotboat days.

I agree. I have heard one does this and that but no data. If you notice the DCB guys really go into how they build the boat and vacuum bag.
I do not think most builders are doing this.

 

[HCP3]

https://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/threads/cheetah-boats-26-wildcat.199988/

 

[Bigbore500r]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I agree. I have heard one does this and that but no data. If you notice the DCB guys really go into how they build the boat and vacuum bag.
I do not think most builders are doing this.

No that is certainly a different level of construction.

 

[guest hs]

Guess which boat manufacture uses these materials in their builds

 

[monkeyswrench]

You know, I'm just a redneck, construction dork. Nobody of any importance or consequence.
Pretty sure though, the point of sales is more to show how good a product is, not how bad a perceived competitor may be.

Even us low rent guys get it. Cheetah isn't Advantage...but Advantage isn't DCB, nor MTI. Different boats, different customers and different reasons for all of the above.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

My friends Cheetah is 20 years old and has 700+ hours. The Gelcoat got oxidized, but the hull is solid. Boat is rock solid, not a stress crack on the thing.

good post,..I know a lot of happy people with cheetahs....but there are even more happy people with glastrons ,chapperals, and even bayliners… they're just boats...and they get family and friends out for an adventure..

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Truth. But let’s get real, Cheetahs do not have the resale of a Cobra..

They aren’t perfect, and they are a cheaper for a few reasons. I still don’t get the wood screws though.

His interior redo was basically a gut job and cost almost 2x normal because they didn’t resin any of the wood and all of it was trash after 20 years. All the wood was replaced, resin coated, and all stainless hardware was used.

He had the gel redone last year.. damn thing is almost a new boat now.

I’ve crawled all over a couple Wildcats.. I wouldn’t hesitate to get one, but I’d put a little more money into the interior if I built a new one for myself.

I've bought a few cheetahs. sues first wild cat the interior was horrible, out drive 1 came from phoenix and got it, did a complete redo..the girl that was doing the interiors went to work for arko… , I seen some of her work from there and it was complete different, I think she knew bob couldn't climb in and out of the boats, that and she was never happy with bob...but.. he kept her working though the real slow times..

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I also wanna say this...I've own a lot of different boats, I get a boat and use it as intended when built....boating is fun... and I stay out of the wallet race..I've never felt the need to bash a builder...I'm in business,... I don't worry about what my competitors do.... they worry about me...we do it fast,we do it right, and we do it for less...