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Looking Glass said:
The Biggest Issue here, Is that it was done in the first place, and "Who" did it? Damn, a State's Supreme Court used to be a last resort before going to the Federal System for Truth Honor, AND The American Way, and (Sorry Here), But ever since "Oblamer" and his weaponizing our Legal System, and the Media, All Bets are Off!!
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This was done in Colorado because our state supreme court is chosen by the governor. As well as many other committees the Governor gets to appoint.

We have not had a Republican Governor since 2007.

That's 16 years of lefty fucking progs, from other shit hole lefty states, that moved here and ruined this once great state.

The 4 judges on the CO Supreme Court are GD lefty assholes prick MF's from some other lefty shit hole that moved here. Probably live in Denver or Boulder.


It's not so much Californians,. . . in the last 10 years its GD lefty progs from Illinois, NY and mini-fucking-sota that have ruined this state.


When the civil war starts, if you ain't a CO native. . . . . your ass is going down a mine shaft. And we have lots of them.

I'm a 5th Generation CO Native and pissed as hell!!!!!
 
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Sharky said:
This was done in Colorado because our state supreme court is chosen by the governor. As well as many other committees the Governor gets to appoint.

We have not had a Republican Governor since 2007.

That's 16 years of lefty fucking progs, from other shit hole lefty states, that moved here and ruined this once great state.

The 4 judges on the CO Supreme Court are GD lefty assholes prick MF's from some other lefty shit hole that moved here. Probably live in Denver or Boulder.


It's not so much Californians,. . . in the last 10 years its GD lefty progs from Illinois, NY and mini-fucking-sota that have ruined this state.


When the civil war starts, if you ain't a CO native. . . . . your ass is going down a mine shaft. And we have lots of them.

I'm a 5th Generation CO Native and pissed as hell!!!!!
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I do not see any other solution!! Talk is just Talk, and just like any other Enemy in a "WAR" there is only one universal Solution!!
 
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This imbecile if off his rocker. I'm surprised that Pelosi hasn't commented yet.
Trump asked for NG and these fuckers turned it down. :rolleyes:

Prominent anti-Trump lawmaker Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., whose X account bio claims he is "fighting for our democracy," supported Trump’s removal from the ballot. He posted to the platform, "The Colorado Supreme Court just ruled Donald Trump is disqualified from the ballot — and from holding office — under the 14th Amendment. Accountability for inciting an insurrection."
He added, "It’s about time."

Now Lt California is joining the Colrado train wreck, lol
 
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Orange Juice said:
You can’t win if you’re a loser, and that’s what Donald is, a 2020 loser. 😜

A vote for Trump in 2024, is a vote for Joe Biden.
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You're an idiot...
You are basically saying to hell with due process, to hell with democracy and to hell with the will of the people.
Appointed judges can control who wins in your world, just as any other totalitarian government.
 
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monkeyswrench said:
You're an idiot...
You are basically saying to hell with due process, to hell with democracy and to hell with the will of the people.
Appointed judges can control who wins in your world, just as any other totalitarian government.
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Monkey you are wasting your time, some members make troll statements just to get a rise out of others. It's almost like he got a PM from 530 hey post this. Cheers
 
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Stainless has made an appearance, that TDS must never go away.
 
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Sandlord said:
After the last election some states wanted to force their electors to vote for the winner of the popular vote, regardless of how their constituent's voted.

remove one candidate from several states and they’ll easily lose the popular vote.
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Seems like manipulation to me. Disgraceful
 
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Orange Juice said:
You can’t win if you’re a loser, and that’s what Donald is, a 2020 loser. 😜

A vote for Trump in 2024, is a vote for Joe Biden.
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Well, those of us in Colorado don't even get a chance to vote on him. Wonder who else they don't like and want to remove?

A group of un-elected individuals removed him from the ballot without a trial or conviction.

Who else should these people remove from the ballot because they "think" that person did something wrong?

Try putting the shoe on your foot and think about the bigger picture. What if it was your candidate or cause?

This not just about Trump. Its bigger than that.

These appointed hacks are taking away both Trumps & our (my) rights. Weather you like Trump or not.

Why even bother having elections? Just let some unelected "star chamber" pick the President.
 
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Sharky said:
Well, those of us in Colorado don't even get a chance to vote on him. Wonder who else they don't like and want to remove?

A group of un-elected individuals removed him from the ballot without a trial or conviction.

Who else should these people remove from the ballot because they "think" that person did something wrong?

Try putting the shoe on your foot and think about the bigger picture. What if it was your candidate or cause?

This not just about Trump. Its bigger than that.

These appointed hacks are taking away both Trumps & our (my) rights. Weather you like Trump or not.

Why even bother having elections? Just let some unelected "star chamber" pick the President.
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"Porn star chamber," Sadly. Colorado has fallen...
 
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I'm sure George Soros is involved in this scheme!
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Across the Country, his $ Backed "D.A.s" are One By One, being stripped of power or Ousted. The "Average" never pays attention "American" is finally being affected by these Radical, Liberal Dangerous Insane People in Power., BUT!! Oh, the damage they have done to our Country, Society, and Citizens.
 
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The 14th Amendment doesn't require charges, a conviction, or even an underlying crime, just that the individual participated in an insurrection. The Colorado Supreme Court determined that January 6th was an insurrection, and that Trump participated in it, consistent with Sec. 3 of the 14th Amendment.

And the amendment is clear: anyone who has engaged in insurrection is barred from holding any public office.

Secondly, Trump is literally running on pardoning those convicted of seditious conspiracy. That is aid and comfort.

“No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

The lawsuit that resulted in the state Supreme Court's ruling against Trump was brought by Republican and unaffiliated voters.
 
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Sharky said:
Well, those of us in Colorado don't even get a chance to vote on him. Wonder who else they don't like and want to remove?

A group of un-elected individuals removed him from the ballot without a trial or conviction.

Who else should these people remove from the ballot because they "think" that person did something wrong?

Try putting the shoe on your foot and think about the bigger picture. What if it was your candidate or cause?

This not just about Trump. Its bigger than that.

These appointed hacks are taking away both Trumps & our (my) rights. Weather you like Trump or not.

Why even bother having elections? Just let some unelected "star chamber" pick the President.
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It would not matter even if they had a trial and a conviction. His supporters don’t care.

They had a trial on whether or not Trump raped a woman and a jury found that he did. Yet his supporters didn’t care. Obviously some only consider rape inappropriate if the other guy does it.

The Constitution says what it says. It is not a criminal statute. It does not require a conviction, just a finding of fact by a judge. Interestingly the CO Supreme Court referenced a ruling by Gorsuch to back up their conclusions.

At the end of the day it will be an interesting year in the Supreme Court. This case presents quite a pickle for the “originalists” appointed by Trump. And now his team is making the argument they must hear this on an expedited basis as he needs this resolved, but doesn't want other issues argued on an expedited basis as he is trying to run out the clock to block those cases via winning the Presidential election.

Your point it very correct that people should consider both sides of the coin, but consistency appears to only be for the other side. After all Biden is a pedophile and one of the richest men in the world as he personally gets 10% of everything spent in Ukraine. Remember those trials?
 
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530RL said:
It would not matter even if they had a trial and a conviction. His supporters don’t care.

They had a trial on whether or not Trump raped a woman and a jury found that he did. Yet his supporters didn’t care. Obviously some only consider rape inappropriate if the other guy does it.

The Constitution says what it says. It is not a criminal statute. It does not require a conviction, just a finding of fact by a judge. Interestingly the CO Supreme Court referenced a ruling by Gorsuch to back up their conclusions.

At the end of the day it will be an interesting year in the Supreme Court. This case presents quite a pickle for the “originalists” appointed by Trump. And now his team is making the argument they must hear this on an expedited basis as he needs this resolved, but doesn't want other issues argued on an expedited basis as he is trying to run out the clock to block those cases via winning the Presidential election.

Your point it very correct that people should consider both sides of the coin, but consistency appears to only be for the other side. After all Biden is a pedophile and one of the richest men in the world as he personally gets 10% of everything spent in Ukraine. Remember those trials?
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2CHILL said:
The 14th Amendment doesn't require charges, a conviction, or even an underlying crime, just that the individual participated in an insurrection. The Colorado Supreme Court determined that January 6th was an insurrection, and that Trump participated in it, consistent with Sec. 3 of the 14th Amendment.

And the amendment is clear: anyone who has engaged in insurrection is barred from holding any public office.

Secondly, Trump is literally running on pardoning those convicted of seditious conspiracy. That is aid and comfort.

“No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

The lawsuit that resulted in the state Supreme Court's ruling against Trump was brought by Republican and unaffiliated voters.
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530RL said:
It would not matter even if they had a trial and a conviction. His supporters don’t care.

They had a trial on whether or not Trump raped a woman and a jury found that he did. Yet his supporters didn’t care. Obviously some only consider rape inappropriate if the other guy does it.

The Constitution says what it says. It is not a criminal statute. It does not require a conviction, just a finding of fact by a judge. Interestingly the CO Supreme Court referenced a ruling by Gorsuch to back up their conclusions.

At the end of the day it will be an interesting year in the Supreme Court. This case presents quite a pickle for the “originalists” appointed by Trump. And now his team is making the argument they must hear this on an expedited basis as he needs this resolved, but doesn't want other issues argued on an expedited basis as he is trying to run out the clock to block those cases via winning the Presidential election.

Your point it very correct that people should consider both sides of the coin, but consistency appears to only be for the other side. After all Biden is a pedophile and one of the richest men in the world as he personally gets 10% of everything spent in Ukraine. Remember those trials?
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The upcoming "Supreme Court decision, if Not "Unanimous" will speak Volumes.🤔
 
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@2CHILL and @530RL need to read the amendment again. The president is exempted from the amendment. A presidential elector, yes; THE president, no. Where was this insurrection anyway? Where was the written plan to overthrow? Where were the weapons, oh wait, there weren't any! Listen to what Trump said, he had no part in the "mostly peaceful protest" at the Capital.

Besides, this isn't the first time the Democrats kept a republican off of a ballot. Democrats kept Lincoln off the ballot in 9 states. I realize the RNC was only 6 years old at the time and were not allowed in the South but precedent was that you put opposing candidates on the ballot.
 
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2CHILL said:
The 14th Amendment doesn't require charges, a conviction, or even an underlying crime, just that the individual participated in an insurrection. The Colorado Supreme Court determined that January 6th was an insurrection, and that Trump participated in it, consistent with Sec. 3 of the 14th Amendment.

And the amendment is clear: anyone who has engaged in insurrection is barred from holding any public office.

Secondly, Trump is literally running on pardoning those convicted of seditious conspiracy. That is aid and comfort.

“No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

The lawsuit that resulted in the state Supreme Court's ruling against Trump was brought by Republican and unaffiliated voters.
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Frist-You’re wrong on the “who brought on the lawsuit”. Sure that’s what the news article says but actually read the court documents. CREW.

Second-have you watched Trumps Jan 6th speech? Please tell me the parts of it that tell you to go to the Cap and overthrow democracy. Don’t just copy and paste the chopped together headlines.

Third-if you really want to see some sh!t, watch the speech simultaneously with the Capital recordings and you’ll see when the Cap was “insurected” vs. trumps speech.
 
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92562 said:
@2CHILL and @530RL need to read the amendment again. The president is exempted from the amendment. A presidential elector, yes; THE president, no. Where was this insurrection anyway? Where was the written plan to overthrow? Where were the weapons, oh wait, there weren't any! Listen to what Trump said, he had no part in the "mostly peaceful protest" at the Capital.

Besides, this isn't the first time the Democrats kept a republican off of a ballot. Democrats kept Lincoln off the ballot in 9 states. I realize the RNC was only 6 years old at the time and were not allowed in the South but precedent was that you put opposing candidates on the ballot.
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I do not have a position on this as it does not rationally affect the outcome of the election. The states elect the president and it is nearly impossible for Trump to win the State of Colorado. Biden won Colorado by 13.5%.

With respect to your point, that the authors of the 14th amendment purposely excluded the President and Vice President, that was the position of the lower court and the colorado supreme court concluded the opposite. It is an interesting conundrum for the originalists on the court.

Lastly, this lawsuit is about Trump being on the Primary ballot, the courts are not denying a republican nominee in the general, just which republicans constitutionally qualify for the ballot in the primary.
 
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92562 said:
@2CHILL and @530RL need to read the amendment again. The president is exempted from the amendment. A presidential elector, yes; THE president, no. Where was this insurrection anyway? Where was the written plan to overthrow? Where were the weapons, oh wait, there weren't any! Listen to what Trump said, he had no part in the "mostly peaceful protest" at the Capital.

Besides, this isn't the first time the Democrats kept a republican off of a ballot. Democrats kept Lincoln off the ballot in 9 states. I realize the RNC was only 6 years old at the time and were not allowed in the South but precedent was that you put opposing candidates on the ballot.
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Facts don’t matter nor does complete context to a “Trump Hurt my Feelings.” They chop and splice together what they want. They’ll never change.
 
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530RL said:
We are not a democracy but a democratic republic.

The states decide who the president is, not the voters.
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Although this is true, it does not mean appointed judges. This republic will, or is falling, as things have become very obvious that there is no longer any form of democracy.

There are no longer two parties it seems. It has now devolved to two classes, the ruling class and the working class. Hell, Trump wasn't a "working" class type, but many, not all, of his actions helped the working class. A strong working class is a problem for the ruling class, as strength is difficult to control. Even many that feel they are "upper class", will most assuredly be hurt by what is coming.

When those in power wield that power to quell descent, and silence detractors, there will be no growth or innovation. When there is no opposition, there is no change to the status quo. This is true of either "side" of the aisle. There are still believers in the republic on both sides, but they are either silenced or coerced into following the herd.
 
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530RL said:
Lastly, this lawsuit is about Trump being on the Primary ballot, the courts are not denying a republican nominee in the general, just which republicans constitutionally qualify for the ballot in the primary.
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Lol so you think their ruling only applies to the Primary... "You are constitutionally denied from the primary, but you are totally clear for the general" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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530RL said:
I do not have a position on this as it does not rationally affect the outcome of the election. The states elect the president and it is nearly impossible for Trump to win the State of Colorado. Biden won Colorado by 13.5%.

With respect to your point, that the authors of the 14th amendment purposely excluded the President and Vice President, that was the position of the lower court and the colorado supreme court concluded the opposite. It is an interesting conundrum for the originalists on the court.

Lastly, this lawsuit is about Trump being on the Primary ballot, the courts are not denying a republican nominee in the general, just which republicans constitutionally qualify for the ballot in the primary.
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You're right about him not winning CO and could be right on the general election, but there are 2 big points here.

1. Many republicans will not show up to the polls for the primary which will definitely affect down ballot races and propositions

2. It sets a bad precedent and it allows a false media narrative to propagate the public space which as we know from the laptop, affects elections. All propaganda outlets are going nuts with "Insurrection clause" and "14th amendment," which makes the uninformed think there was one. He has not even been, nor will he ever be charged with insurrection because even Jack Smith admitted that there wasn't one.
 
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monkeyswrench said:
Although this is true, it does not mean appointed judges. This republic will, or is falling, as things have become very obvious that there is no longer any form of democracy.

There are no longer two parties it seems. It has now devolved to two classes, the ruling class and the working class. Hell, Trump wasn't a "working" class type, but many, not all, of his actions helped the working class. A strong working class is a problem for the ruling class, as strength is difficult to control. Even many that feel they are "upper class", will most assuredly be hurt by what is coming.

When those in power wield that power to quell descent, and silence detractors, there will be no growth or innovation. When there is no opposition, there is no change to the status quo. This is true of either "side" of the aisle. There are still believers in the republic on both sides, but they are either silenced or coerced into following the herd.
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There has to be a branch of government to resolve disputes. And to Sharky's point, the group who supports appointed judges making that decision is typically the winning group.

After all, it was appointed judges that ultimately determined that Bush beat Gore. And there certainly wasn't a lot of hand wringing then by those that are so appalled now.
 
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92562 said:
You're right about him not winning CO and could be right on the general election, but there are 2 big points here.

1. Many republicans will not show up to the polls for the primary which will definitely affect down ballot races and propositions

2. It sets a bad precedent and it allows a false media narrative to propagate the public space which as we know from the laptop, affects elections. All propaganda outlets are going nuts with "Insurrection clause" and "14th amendment," which makes the uninformed think there was one. He has not even been, nor will he ever be charged with insurrection because even Jack Smith admitted that there wasn't one.
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All fair points.

But false media narratives are the main driver of politics today on both sides as neither side or candidate in this case is for America, but for their personal agenda and gain.
 
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530RL said:
All fair points.

But false media narratives are the main driver of politics today on both sides as neither side or candidate in this case is for America, but for their personal agenda and gain.
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I don't buy that with Trump. He lived a rich lifestyle and had fame but decided (like Reagan) that he could help fix the country (right or wrong.) He put himself in harm's way and will continue to, even though it is a choice. Biden went into government to game the system and live a rich lifestyle, just like Obama. My .02.
 
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thebiz said:
Look at the group of “Electors” that brought the suit on. “CREW” Then look at their funding.
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Been trying to do some reading on CREW.

Looks like they raked in about $7 mil last year. . . . . from who????? Gee, I wonder.


CREW sure seems to go after a lot of Republicans.
 
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