Tim McDonald

[Tank]

Did anybody testify in actual court? Talk to the prosecutor? Or have been in contact with the district attorney???

Or
Was this just a move it along, got another one after this one deal, type of case? Sucks for people he ripped off!

Doesn’t appear to be any REAL Justice in todays “so called modern society”

So being a felon is he doesn’t get to vote, and can’t buy guns legally, I don’t think any real job prospects he has /or ever had will ask if he is a felon!

Most likely he will work for sombody for cash under the table, While he is on welfare or some public assistance, with a big racked stripper girlfriend name KIA

Nah man, I bet he's got his own shop again or at least selling boats for someone else with-in 5 years. I really am an optimist but it's just what I've seen over the years when it comes to stuff like this. People go back to what they know and were successful at. He was pretty successful until he started fuckin' over people. He'll be back at it. Whether he stays legit or starts the shenanigans again will remain to be seen.

 

[Yellowboat]

My guess is he will be sentenced between 3 and 5 years, he will serve just over one and will be looking for a way to screw someone else within five

 

[DLC]

Nah man, I bet he's got his own shop again or at least selling boats for someone else with-in 5 years. I really am an optimist but it's just what I've seen over the years when it comes to stuff like this. People go back to what they know and were successful at. He was pretty successful until he started fuckin' over people. He'll be back at it. Whether he stays legit or starts the shenanigans again will remain to be seen.

I do agree with your thinking but if he makes to much money he will HAVE to start to make restitution ....

 

[jetur]

I do agree with your thinking but if he makes to much money he will HAVE to start to make restitution ....

Highly unlikely any restitution is coming. He's older and more than likely will start another business in a family members name and blame past shortcomings on a bad economy. Not that I agree with any of that, it's just usually what happens.

 

[DLC]

Oh absolutely he isn’t looking to pay anybody back, but if he makes a bunch of money.... it has to be in somebody’s else’s name

 

[Ouderkirk]

I’m going to suggest “house arrest”....one year at each one of his victims! Win-win!

I cannot believe how easy it has gone for Tim with how many people he screwed over and how many lies he has told.

Not to diminish what he's done to the people he's screwed over, but one has to consider in terms of criminals he's pretty low level in the eyes of the "in-justice" system. That's not much consolation, but the reality is he's just a thief, and not an guy jabbing a gun in the ribs of someone working at 7/11 or a bank, demanding money. While his methods were unscrupulious, they weren't necessarily dangerous to the public at large.

Just the same he should get 15 years and do the 12 years and 9 months, per the agreement.

Those who got screwed over will get nothing....unfortunately you can't get blood from a stone.

 

[Dirtbag]

If he is ordered to pay restitution, those getting the restitution need to follow wherever he goes. Once his place of employment is notified he will be forced to pay restitution as a wage garnishment. It does not matter how much he makes they will take a percentage.

 

[Instigator]

Restitution will only be paid if the judge orders it as a term of his release and he has the ability to pay it or he is court ordered to pay a fixed amount over a fixed time period directly to the state and have them disperse the funds to the victims. Otherwise all the victims will have is a judgement and those are just like trophies or plaques that can be hung on your wall.

 

[Ballyhoo]

This case looks like a prison case based on the plea offered by the Mohave DA's office. Very common to see plea deals in 90% of criminal cases, especially this type of case. I would encourage each victim in this case to write a letter to the court and describe in detail how the defendants actions caused you harm. Send the letters to the Mohave DA's office ASAP. If he accepts this plea deal, you can show up to court on the day he is sentenced and you can address the court in person. If you can't send a letter make a call to the DDA that is listed.

 

[Bigbore500r]

I think he's southbound as we speak....

 

[beertruck]

latest update

To the McDonald victims,

There was a hearing in the McDonald case today, 1-14-19. It was a Pretrial conference or PTC.

Prosecutor: Shoppmann, Defense: Telles for Mendoza, Defendant: present telephonic.

Defense received 2500 pages of discovery and requested a 60 day continuance to have a forensic accountant go over it. They excluded time.

Prosecutor: No objection, but the plea offer ends at the next hearing.

Judge: Excludes time, notes plea offer expires next hearing.

Next hearing is on 3-18-19 at 10 AM, PTC.

 

[DLC]

Truly unbelievable how this can go on for so long and yet people are out so much money.... and have been bluntly defrauded

Justice system at work!

I remember the thread and the deadline and hitting the new post button .... waiting

 

[HB2Havasu]

If he had 1/2 a brain he would accept the plea bargain before the next hearing. If this goes to trial he could spend the rest of his life behind bars.

I’m still betting he goes Southbound before it’s all said and done, lol

 

[That Guy]

Thank you for the update. Interested to see how this all plays out and hopeful some of his victims see some of their money......

 

[beertruck]

Trail date has been set Oct 29th 2019
Only taking three years from when he was caught to bring him to trial. Got to love our legal system

Good Morning,

There was a hearing this morning and here are the notes I made:


3-18-19 AT 10:18-10:30. Pre Trial Conference.

Prosecutor: Shoppmann, Defense: Tellez (telephonic) for Mendoza and defendant present (telephonic) not in custody.

Defense: due to extensive discovery, defense is hiring an expert.

Request a status conference for 60 days out.

Judge reminded defense that plea offer expires today. Stated the defendant was not ready to accept plea.

Mr. Shoppmann stated there have been lengthy continuances and requested a trial date be set.

TRIAL DATE HAS BEEN SET FOR 10-29-19 AT 1:30 PM.

Expects trial to be 1-2 weeks.

A status conference has been set for 6-3-19 at 9:30 AM.

A final management conference has been set for 10-17-19 at 1:30 PM.


So a trial date has been set, but remember it is always tentative until the final management conference takes place.

The status conference in June is to keep tabs on the case. There will most likely be additional status conferences.


All of you will most likely need to testify during the trial and we will set a schedule for 5-6 victims per day.

We will work on the schedule when the trial date gets closer.


As always if there are any questions, feel free to contact me.


Scott St. John

Victim Services Coordinator

Mohave County Attorney Victim Services Program

Physical address: 325 Pine St., Kingman, AZ 86401

Mailing address: P.O. Box 7000, Kingman, AZ 86402-7000

Phone number: (928) 718-4967

Fax number: (928) 718-4966

 

[was thatguy]

This is a form letter for a plea offer in state court not federal court.

Attached are the sentencing guidelines. Restitution will most likely be included but he is not going to be able to pay it.

Sentences depend upon the Mojave County Judge and depend upon how many people write in and show up when the sentencing memorandum is drafted.

In Arizona, Notary's get a year for notarizing without an individual present so I suspect Mr. McDonald is going to be doing some time assuming victims show up or write in.

https://www.azcourts.gov/Portals/0/2018Sentencing.pdf

That’s how I read it.
Also the deal offer appears to me that it is not applicable if restitution is not made in full?
If he takes it and doesn’t make whole on restitution what happens then?
How does that work? Honest question.

 

[BONER]

The United States Justice System - Where the Good Guy always gets fucked.

 

[was thatguy]

Never mind, saw that plea expired.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

So it sounds like they are not taking the plea deal? Since it expired and they set a court date?

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[RiverDave]

Trial in October? Lol.

I am surprised this guy is still in the States

 

[spectras only]

That m'effer will disappear before September. Useless system, sadly.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Exactly and still has plenty of time to run for the border.

Trial in October? Lol.

I am surprised this guy is still in the States

 

[HB2Havasu]

Trial in October? Lol.

I am surprised this guy is still in the States

I’m predicting he will be making a run for the border or accepting a plea deal by 10/28/2019 No way this thing ever get tried!

 

[boatpi]

No, they always wait until the trial is in progress when I gets near the end, and it doesn’t look good for them, they disappear like shit flowing downhill overnight.

 

[milkmoney]

Fucking fry him. Life loser

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[beertruck]

confirmed trial date now.

Good afternoon,


The Court has cleared it’s calendar and has provided us with a Firm Trial date regarding the above referenced case. The Trial date previously scheduled in October was continued to the new date of December 3, 2019. The Trial is expected to be December 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 10th and 11th if needed. Testimony will not be taken on December 3rd and will start on December 4th.


Please inform us if you have a preferred date you would like to testify on and whether you will need assistance in traveling to Kingman for the Trial. Also, please plan to come for one day but be aware you may need to stay for two days.


Thank you,

 

[beertruck]

apparently Tim has not limited his screwing to only boat owners, he has now included his own attorney.

Tim's attorney tried to withdraw from the case as Tim has not been paying him. This could have caused the court date to be set back, but the courts ruled that the trail will continue, and the attorney can not withdraw.
I would hate to have a attorney representing me that I was screwing out of money.

 

[4Waters]

apparently Tim has not limited his screwing to only boat owners, he has now included his own attorney.

Tim's attorney tried to withdraw from the case as Tim has not been paying him. This could have caused the court date to be set back, but the courts ruled that the trail will continue, and the attorney can not withdraw.
I would hate to have a attorney representing me that I was screwing out of money.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Maybe the plan all along

apparently Tim has not limited his screwing to only boat owners, he has now included his own attorney.

Tim's attorney tried to withdraw from the case as Tim has not been paying him. This could have caused the court date to be set back, but the courts ruled that the trail will continue, and the attorney can not withdraw.
I would hate to have a attorney representing me that I was screwing out of money.

 

[Rotten deal]

Just a set up for appeals for a new trial. You know ,I wasnt properly represented because I wasnt paying my attorney .

 

[RiverDave]

As it was told to me a few weeks ago it’s pretty rare for a court to make a lawyer represent a client for free..

They were under the impression the trial would be postponed again while he received new council.

I know the prosecutor made everyone that was comjng for testimony cancel their travel plans because of this.

I am starting to wonder if this guy was some sort of legal genius to be able to pull this off and get yet another lengthy extension.

 

[NicPaus]

In a few years it will be like a few other boat businesses and 1 shock company comes to mind. And people will be lining up to hand him there money again.

 

[Instigator]

And the con man keeps the con going.
I say that they let all those that have been screwed by him know when and where he will be released and then let him go and I bet justice will be served right quick. Otherwise, the judgement that MAY be handed down is going to be nothing more than a plaque on some peeps walls or really rough toilet paper.

 

[hallett21]

I can’t believe that his attorney wouldn’t put something in place to guarantee his own payment. You know since you’re representing a financial con man and all.

Are there not bonds or ways to tie up assets in the event of non payment?


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[Icky]

In a few years it will be like a few other boat businesses and 1 shock company comes to mind. And people will be lining up to hand him there money again.

Maybe they got therapy

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I can’t believe that his attorney wouldn’t put something in place to guarantee his own payment. You know since you’re representing a financial con man and all.

Are there not bonds or ways to tie up assets in the event of non payment?


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You mean the assets that weren't already frozen by the courts? Not sure there is much paper worth he'd be able to attach to.

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[TCHB]

If he accepts the plea is his next time in court sentencing? Wonder how long the plea process lasts.

If he has to go to prison he will go to a white collar prison which is much nicer than a normal prison.

 

[Mcob25rg]

As i said earlier - i can't believe this guy is still alive. If i was him, being out in the free public would scare the crap out of me. There's SEVERAL people that have the reason to make him go away

 

[hallett21]

You mean the assets that weren't already frozen by the courts? Not sure there is much paper worth he'd be able to attach to.

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Fair point. I just can't imagine why the attorney would even take him on. Unless there are laws that require him to represent?

 

[Sandlord]

Fair point. I just can't imagine why the attorney would even take him on. Unless there are laws that require him to represent?

maybe the lawyer was promised a boat

 

[4Waters]

maybe the lawyer was promised a boat

A Nordic Flame? This guy is just a waist of oxygen.

 

[Old Texan]

Seems like a lawyer would realize any assets would be seized and the guy wouldn't have enough to go around. Are lawyers placed at the head of the line or something?

Give the prick a public defender and get the shit to trial and over with....

 

[Backlash]

I guess we wont be hearing a lot of "Objections" during this trial.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

A Nordic Flame? This guy is just a waist of oxygen.

You think he is paying for food to pad his waistband?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

maybe the lawyer was promised a boat

Maybe the judge was.

 

[Ziggy]

Fair point. I just can't imagine why the attorney would even take him on. Unless there are laws that require him to represent?

Perhaps Tim made the lawyer believe his innocence from the get-go. He was/is a master BSer afterall.

 

[aka619er]

I just looked this up on the American Bar Association website as I would think its illegal to force him to stay without compensation.

 

[MCnParker]

You can easily see all of someones past court cases on this link. Interesting read when you look at his past...

https://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx

 

[Yellowboat]

For all we know he has assets that are not known, like off shore accounts, in other names. I doubt it, but you never know with a person like that.

Reality is justice is never properly served in white collar cases.

 

[rmarion]

did anyone ever do the math (I didn't)

how much $$$$$$ did he screw people over for....????